Mr Miyagi vs Kim Sun Yung In The Seikai Takei
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- Did Mr Miyagi face Kim Sun-Yung in a previous Seikai Takei. Season 6 Part 1 of Cobra Kai alluded to this, but we take a deeper dive into it, and see if this is something that has happened in the past. Join me, and don't forget to like and subscribe.
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He would have remembered the name when Terry Silver mentioned him in Karate Kid 3
Mr miyagi killed Kim da Eunâs father in sekai
@@ayoo_joshi9215 you know that could work too.
I have another different opion. I believe the headband belong to one of Miyagi's students that fought in the tournament. This student of miyagi might have killed one of Kim's best students and cause such animosity towards the two men. Maybe miyagi had started a karate school in japan after he fleed from America after that robbery incident. His school enter the tournament and tragedy struck. This may have cause master kim to be so bitter and full of hatred that made his tangsoodo the way of the fist. On the other side of the spectrum this incident cause a lot of remose and sadness to miyagi that he decided to never to teach karate ever again. Yes he did allow to let daniel to enter the all valley tournament so he can fix his problems. But that's it no more. Miyagi shun competition and I believe he keep that headband to remind him of his oath. Master Kim became more bitter for the lost of that student that he vow never to repeat that incident again.
Good theory but when silver met miyagi and silver mentioned his master.that wouldve triggered a red flag from miyagi
@@wnerko7484 it could be that Kim was not master yet. But a student from that school that competed in the tournament at that time.
@@juanrodriguez5404No Kim was a master who literally trained Kreese and Silver. And they are both literal adults. What, you think Kim aged backwards or something? Miyagi is at his apex of his life and he still manages to live long enough to get kicked by Daniels son.
@@TheLuconic I know but what I am saying is that Master Kim might not have fought Miyagi in the first place. Since when Silver brought the name up, Miyagi did not recognize him.
When they found the headband they also found that mr Miyagi was actually born in 1918
I think Miyagi wouldâve reacted when silver said Kimâs name in KK3 if they fought. I think sato mightâve fought Kim Sung Yun, if sato lost or if Kim was dishonourable and injured sato. It would explain why Sato didnât like Master Kim
Perhaps Kim changed his name for some reason?
@@TheAtkey Koreans were pressured to change their names to Japanese names during the occupation.
Reacted in what way? Miyagi was in control of his emotions and probably doesn't hold grudges. I saw the scene again and its hard to tell what miyagi thought. But terry came peacefully and sent his master's apologies for kreese's behaviour, so no reason for miyagi to be defensive. Miyagi had no idea i think that terry was training Daniel later
Kim Sung Yung also trained Soldiers in the Korean War he's probably a bit older than Mr. Miyagi was
Daniel needs to get a DNA sample of the blood on that headband.
pretty sure soo much time has passed that he couldnt. it wasnt preserved.
He did not say that he said that he had not fought for points...but for his life....the seikaitkai might not have been a normal tournament when miyagi got in thereâ@@ryanwyatt6769
Amanda might since Daniel's in Spain.
...and compare it to what?
@@user-uj7zp5qs7q Oh.... did not think of that. I hope they don't pull a Deadpool 3 with Mr. Miyagi's grave.
Miyagi said he had never fought in a tournament in kk2
Maybe he was ashamed he did. Maybe someone died at his hand.
Miyagi also never said he (possibly) had a criminal past either.
would be interesting, there would be a cool spin off
Miyagi killed someone in the sekai taikai and that's why he doesn't like tournaments and karate is for defense only.
I would love to see some spin offs bout myiage, kim sun yung, kreese and Terry, and later reboot Cobra kai with Miguel, Robby, Hawk, Tory, and Sam
The show might do something with that connection, but i dont think miagi personally crossed paths with him though, because i cant see him keeping that a secret from daniel when he was fine telling the history between him and satu. I can see the show doing something like that though to have everything connected, but i dont think it needs to do that to be better. They do need to get the next karate kid on that show at some point to cover all the series.
It's implied that Mr. Miyagi may have had a brother. Could it be possible that his brother was killed in the tournament. Or maybe someone on Master Kim Young Un team was killed. An another thing we know his granddaughter but nothing is ever mentioned about his children. How did he have? Are any of them living? So much to think about.
In KK3, Terry Silver mentions Kim Sun Yung's name upon introducing himself to Mr.Miyagi.
He does not express any sign of recognizing
Sun Yung's name. They don't know each other.
Maybe he is very good at masking body language and did not WANT Silver to know that he had encountered Master Kim.
Story telling wise, if Miyagi did fight Kim that creates a problem. If that fight did happen at the Seikai Takei, Kreese and Silver both would have known about it. I just don't know how they couldn't have known of it. Silver and Kreese are both knowledgeable about the tournament. At some point they would have to have realised this.
There's a ten year difference. Assuming Mr. Myiagi was born in 1918 like on the passport and not 1924, there'd be about a seven or eight year difference if my math is right.
Remember, Master Kim was "still a young boy" when the Japanese started conscripting Koreans to the Imperial Japanese Army during the occupation, and that didn't happen until 1944. The age of conscription was lowered, first from 20 to 17, but the age of majority in Korea was 19, so he would still have been considered "a child" in the eyes of the law, and by the standard of the Koreans at the time. That's also true if he was 18, so he was necessarily either born in 1926 or 1927, making him either 17 or 18 in 1944, and 53 or 54 in 1980. That'd make him 93 or 94 years old in 2019.
If his participation in the Sekai Taikai took place _after_ he assumed the name of Nariyoshi and pretended he was born in 1924, their age difference would only be three or four, for all anybody else knew.
That's a good explanation ð
@@juanrodriguez5404 You can't go wrong with math. Unless you suck as much at math as I do, but fortunately we're working with small numbers. :P
Is it possible that Myiagi had an older brother who competed?
@@user-uj7zp5qs7q I hope not. It'd be clichÃĐ and uninspired if he did. But the island that Master Kim lives on is Yeoeso Island, and it's a small, remote fishing and farming community, just like Tomi Village was depicted to be in KK3.
Seems like an intentional parallel where the idea is to illustrate how these two similarly skilled fighters had very similar beginnings, but very different endings.
@@user-uj7zp5qs7q Hypothetically, but unlikely. It'd be an absurd way to introduce Myiaig's brother - purposefully hoodwinking us into thinking it's the one and only if it isn't.
Miyagi fights Jackie chans character Mr han in the saki taki then they become friends.
There's like a huge age difference between the two.
I think Kim fought and killed miyagiâs sensei,maybe miyagi do vs cobra Kai went back really long ago,miyagi could have saved the headband with his senseiâs blood,and out of rage committed assault
Miyagi's Sensei was his father. Whom passed away in Karate Kid 2. His Karate has/is family lineage.
@@BobbyBrett3263I never really watched the karate kid movies,so I didnât know this.Thanks for sharing!
think its true to say that miyagi said that always fight for life than for points saying that he fought for his life in the sekai
this is the second time ive heard this theory and i hope they do not go this route its too cliche and just lazy
People are delusional silver in kk3 mentioned kim sung yung to mr miyagi alredy and he thought nothing of it meaning miyagi never knew master kim
In Miyagi verse. Miyagi and his style is the best. But in real life. You get your ass handed if you fought exactly like that.
Now theyre going to have to re-edit kk1 and kk3..when miyagi told daniel about the tournament.1st time you 1st time me.and when they met silver.he introduced his masters name and it didnt raise a red flag for mr miyagi
Normal, vu que c'est un Sensei et qu'ils se respectent entre-eux !
If Master Kim was Korean and taught Tang Soo-Do (a Korean martial art) to Kreese and Terry Silver, why do they call Cobra Kai's martial art "karate" and why do they call their studio a "dojo" but in Korea it's a Do'jang?
`Cause Cobra Kai`s a mix of Tang Soo Do, traditional Japanese karate(As Korea was occupied by Japan at the time), street fighting and philosophies(Ie No mercy, Social Darwinism)Kreese and Silver learned as POWs in Vietnam which made them the psychopathic Cobra Kai senseis they became.
Sato and miagyi team mate was killed miagyi fought him and lost sato won but sato know miagyi is beter than him they still wanted see who is the best
Maybe Miyagi lost to Kim. It might be his blood on the headband.
what if they do something with soto (chozens uncle from karate kid 2)
i think people /fans of the films should look into the death of my miyagis wife. he said he fought for life not points maybe his wife was part of the tourniment
Not necessarily she died during her time in the interment camp.
Complications in child birth
Hold on tight! KK2, Shimpo Sensei returns with chinese wife and two kids. Kim Sung Yun is Shimpo Sensei's grandson...ðŦĒ..I know its insane! Though it is a feasible story connection. KSY was the black sheep. Think about it!!!
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Kim Sung Yung would easily defeat Mr. Myagi.
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Miyagi do teachings are actually more brutal than Cobra Kai. That's the big twist. Mr Miyagi omitted a lot when he taught Daniel. Think Miyagi maimed a lot of opponents in his younger days.
Impossible ! Il dÃĐtestait se battre !
@@lojembove9934He probably grew to hate fighting after what it made him do
That could make sense since Chozen told Daniel in Season 3 Defense takes on many forms.
â@@lojembove9934miyagi hate fighting. Someone always get hurt
Or the truth is hiding in plain sight...Myiagi fought Sato in tournament...ðģ Thats why he refused to fight in KK2.. They already been down that road. So many ways this could play out!
Je ne pense pas vu que Sato le traite de lÃĒche en lui disant qu'il refuse de se battre ! Alors qu'en rÃĐalitÃĐ, il savait dÃĐjà à l'ÃĒge de 18 ans que ça ne servait à rien de se battre pour l'honneur vu qu'il allait perdre son meilleur ami qu'il considÃĐrait comme son frÃĻre , son amour de jeunesse , ses parents, amis, connaissances, pays, etc. !!! Donc non, il n'a pas pu combattre Sato lors du championnat mais plutÃīt le fameux Kim Sun Yung à mon avis. Et j'ai une thÃĐorie selon laquelle, il aurait humiliÃĐ Kim Sun Yung lors du Sekai Taikai, ce qui va rendre Kim Sun Yung frustrÃĐ au point d'apprendre par la suite, les pires techniques hypocrites, sournoises et sans pitiÃĐs aux soldats amÃĐricains tels que John Kreese et Terry Silver. Enfin, c'est ce qui me semble le plus cohÃĐrent selon moi. Ce qui explique pourquoi John Kreese dÃĐteste Miyagi et va à plusieurs reprises va se faire passer pour mort , puis rÃĐapparaÃŪtre avec l'aide de Terry Silver. Mais bon, on sait trÃĻs bien qu'ils ne faisaient pas le point face à Miyagi et n'ont jamais ÃĐtÃĐ chercher leur Sensei Kim Sun Yung pour donner une leçon à Miyagi. Et vu la premiÃĻre partie de la saison 6 commence avec John Kreese qui demande l'approbation de son Sensei pour aller au Sekai Taikai reprÃĐsenter Cobra Kai, et la rÃĐponse de Kim à ce dernier, je pense Être sur le bon chemin... On verra bien ;)
Je ne pense pas vu que Sato le traite de lÃĒche en lui disant qu'il refuse de se battre ! Alors qu'en rÃĐalitÃĐ, il savait dÃĐjà à l'ÃĒge de 18 ans que ça ne servait à rien de se battre pour l'honneur vu qu'il allait perdre son meilleur ami qu'il considÃĐrait comme son frÃĻre , son amour de jeunesse , ses parents, amis, connaissances, pays, etc. !!! Donc non, il n'a pas pu combattre Sato lors du championnat mais plutÃīt le fameux Kim Sun Yung à mon avis. Et j'ai une thÃĐorie selon laquelle, il aurait humiliÃĐ Kim Sun Yung lors du Sekai Taikai, ce qui va rendre Kim Sun Yung frustrÃĐ au point d'apprendre par la suite, les pires techniques hypocrites, sournoises et sans pitiÃĐs aux soldats amÃĐricains tels que John Kreese et Terry Silver. Enfin, c'est ce qui me semble le plus cohÃĐrent selon moi. Ce qui explique pourquoi John Kreese dÃĐteste Miyagi et va à plusieurs reprises va se faire passer pour mort , puis rÃĐapparaÃŪtre avec l'aide de Terry Silver. Mais bon, on sait trÃĻs bien qu'ils ne faisaient pas le point face à Miyagi et n'ont jamais ÃĐtÃĐ chercher leur Sensei Kim Sun Yung pour donner une leçon à Miyagi. Et vu la premiÃĻre partie de la saison 6 commence avec John Kreese qui demande l'approbation de son Sensei pour aller au Sekai Taikai reprÃĐsenter Cobra Kai, et la rÃĐponse de Kim à ce dernier est non ! Il l'envoie retrouver son couteau dans une forÊt pour mÃĐriter d'aller reprÃĐsenter les couleurs de Cobra Kai. Il doit montrer son courage en combattant un serpent à l'intÃĐrieur d'une grotte. Kim lui dit qu'il doit voir au-delà des mÃĐdailles et n'arrÊte pas de lui donner des coups en traitre en disant ça ! Toujours sournoi et sans pitiÃĐ... Pas pour rien que John Kreese et Terry Silver ont des sÃĐquelles à vie. ... N'oubliez pas comment Miyagi peut humilier sans retenue les personnes avec lesquelles il se bat ! Pour parler de tout ça, faut absolument avoir vu les 4 karatÃĐ kid avec Pat Morita (Miyagi) ;)