A couple other things to note. 1. Fenrir is valuable not only for going second but actually as a "ritual fodder engine." It is Level 7 which all your rituals are and also searches more level 7s (other copies of Fenrir). This is important because Saffira (and the upcoming new Continuous Spell) do not care about the material used unlike the Ritual spell. It allows for a lot of different applications and avenues of play because you don't have to sacrifice your Lo and subsequently your omninegate to summon Skull Guardian. He only gets his negate while Lo is on the field so being able to keep Lo on the field as you summon him is very strong into a lot of boards and playing with a lot of hands. 2. There are some really strong and synergistic Extra Deck cards that I think warrant play especially in the current format. Namely Chaos Angel and Underworld Goddess w/ some Charmers. Diviner is a one card Chaos Angel + access to Lo and your VV engine which is very powerful going second and Underworld Goddess is a LIGHT monster that is protected from targeting by Barrier. Playing Dharc (for the Diabellstar decks) and Lyna for the mirror can help climb into Goddess but also trigger S:P's on summon banish if you are in a tight spot. I do genuinely think this deck is insanely strong and obviously slept on in the current format considering the obsessive popularity and fixation on Fire Kings and other fire piles (for good reason) and will only get stronger with the new Continuous Spell in the next set that allows Lo to go straight into a ritual summon and help to play around Droll a lot better.
Sidenote, I am very happy more people are catching on to Earth Golem as a Super Poly target. It plays so beautifully into common endboard pieces like S:P and Apollousa. And you have multiple ways to easily access it with Dyna Mondo and Linkuriboh. And the fact that it beats over every single ED monster in the game pretty much, can be summoned on your opponent's turn to guarantee you live 'till your next turn, and can be crashed into large non-ED monsters to revive the Linkuriboh or Dyna Mondo that was used (while also allowing you to use both Linkuriboh and Dyna Mondo because Linkuriboh is not a summon effect and Dyna Mondo is on special not link summon). As a legitimate line of play, you can purposefully not use any effects when you summon monsters (depending on your boardstate) to not allow your opponent's S:P to trigger her tag out effect, activate Super Poly when you establish Linkuriboh or Dyna Mondo (they can't respond with S:P at that point), go into Earth Golem with your Cyberse and their S:P and then crash into a Garunix that could also more than likely be on their field, summon back the Dyna Mondo and THEN activate its effect to shuffle a ritual and also their Garunix or whatever you need to target.
This deck is even more insane when you add herald of perfection and ultimateness...as they can be summoned via the voiceless voice ritual. And with saffira on the field you can use lo as discard fodder for heralds negate only to get it back with saffira.
Interestingly enough since they dont necessarily need to go into ED you can run Branded fusion with 1 albaz and 1 Jowgen and make sanctifire with them then next turn summon jowgen to your field which will be protected under the voiceless continuous spell since its light
You should consider replacing one of the copies of Sauravis with Odd-Eyes Pendulumgraph Dragon. It can be added to the hand by Saffira (the non-ritual one) and Skull Guardian since it's a light dragon ritual monster and it adds an additional spell negate to the end board if you find a way to ritual summon twice (so you'll have to search the ritual spell and have additional fodder to be able to summon it). It also gives you a little bit of follow-up since it can add back both the ritual spell and itself to the hand in the end phase. The downside is you can't summon it from the deck with Sauravis (the non-ritual one) because it MUST be ritual summoned and you also can't search it with Pre Prep nor with the continuous spell
@zenbozic6184 Cringe? Bruh, have you seen combo decks endboards recently? They don't let you play the game. This one at least has very specific types of negates. That ain't cringe.
@@BuckysKnifeFlip which makes like 50% of the upcoming meta. lets see the other ones: branded doesnt put up negates, runick decks rarely put up negates (potentially a baronne in synchro variants), kash doesnt put up negates (again except for a random baronne here and there), which means the only negate spam deck in the meta would be mannadium and yeah i would say its just as cringe as voiceless voice, a bunch of 1card combos that lead to negates, boring interaction, boring to play vs
I feel like throwing random ritual monsters into a deck with the libromancer engine is starting to become a valid strategy, first it was dogmatika then it was mikanko and now voiceless voice will probably work with it.
Crossout package might be worth playing in the side to deal with Droll when going first. Droll doesn’t seem to be super common in the main, but everywhere in the side so having an answer to it game 2/3 might be worth considering seeing as we still have Crossout at 3.
alot of hands can play around droll. you don't need to always grab saffira, its exactly why something like nib , odd-eyes pendelum dragon and the nadir package should be played over fenrir, because then your ritual spell is live in hand more often.
I love this archetype so much, I've been testing it in edopro since December and I had a blast. I clicked as soon as I saw a Novox (Lo?) Kind of sad not seeing any ritual saffira in the decklist, I like her, but i understand the decision
@darkking669 Well damn bro. I mean, I only really play on MD. The only card that is illegal in the tcg that's in my deck is my second copy of called by the grave. I can still write it down if you want. Must say that I ain't the best at deck building. Although hieratics are the only deck I really know in and out of, They aren't too complicated, tho.
I'd definitely recommend some books to dodge Imperm/Veiler on Diviner and Lo. It's the decks most vital chokepoint by far. VV is probably one of the stronger rogue decks in the coming formats on paper, but it really suffers from the kinds of non-engine floating around. Ash, Belle, Droll, Imperm and Veiler are all able to either stop your turn entirely or force you to commit to ressources you'd rather keep for later turns.
you can say the exact same thing for FK... droll hurts them as well as an ash/imperm at the right time. The key is to play as if your opponent has the droll and ensure when you you do get drolled you can still play.
@@tickledeggzUnfortunately, you desperately need lo and being able to make chaos angel going 2nd is invaluable The dogmatika engine is great too but too risky in mirrors and against branded
Sadly, the last good one was Nekroz, almost 10 years ago. I think they were skeptical about making a strong Ritual archetype after Nekroz‘s reign of terror
Is there anyway where I could convince you to put off snake eye fire king even longer for a different and worse snake eye deck in the form of Snake Eye Horus Volcanic
I wonder if MBT sees the irony in him constantly complaining about how long Gage and Cimo talk for in Prog, and then taking 9 minutes to do a deck profile for a ritual deck. Shout out to the fact that the deck profile took longer than the actual duels too, something MBT's also complained about when watching Prog
On the bright side, he's back to describing what the cards do and how they play off each other instead of just reciting their effect texts. It's nice to get context for how the deck functions beyond just looking at the cards.
This is one of the stupidest comments I have ever read. This is a primer video for people who want information about how the deck that they can pick up and play works as opposed to a video where people go to keep score of two guys duelling with decks IWishIwasDead made that they will never touch in their lives.
The problem is… since the goblin video every 3rd comment wanted him to explain the combos of the card and why it is important for the chosen ratio. Not just what the card reads. Myself included. So even if he complains. It is clear his viewers want more indepth talk of the deck core. If he complains others do it well…that is why polls and comments exist. You do right by a majority of the fans and youll keep getting views long as you dont mind doing said content.
Turn one on the bo3 you should have searched the ritual sauarvis to negate the imperm. If you had done that you would have full combo due to diviner itself already getting you to skull guardian and full combo. Please PLEASE if you have lo/diviner and have pre-prep alwasy search sauravis to insulate your plays. If he had imperm your diviner the turn was over.
What would happen if droll went the way of maxx "c". In any format in which it is really good, it effectively skips your opponents turn. We can have cards that help beat these decks but they shouldn't beat them in their own. This happens a lot with droll. Just because you can play around it once in a blue moon doesn't mean it should be legal.
For those hoping to build this deck Lo is going for $72-$85 dollars a piece on preorders so unless your lucky with packs your gonna have a hard building this in real life.
@@lasterman94100 Especially if it's an archetype that won't get hit in the next 6-9 months... And these cards might not be reprintet until the Tin 2025.
This TMT should have been completely silent, with what you are actually saying is in the Closed Captions. Would've taken the archetype name *very* literally.
I love MBT constantly flip-flopping between Voiceless Voice and Silenforc in the deck profile.
VV is such a dogwater name
@@tame1773 it is pretty bad
Voiceless Voice is just such a mouthful. Honestly could've just called the archetype "novox"
I really liked silenforce tbh
I would literally spit in the face of Konami live by calling it silenforc because voiceless voice is so crappy
A couple other things to note.
1. Fenrir is valuable not only for going second but actually as a "ritual fodder engine." It is Level 7 which all your rituals are and also searches more level 7s (other copies of Fenrir). This is important because Saffira (and the upcoming new Continuous Spell) do not care about the material used unlike the Ritual spell. It allows for a lot of different applications and avenues of play because you don't have to sacrifice your Lo and subsequently your omninegate to summon Skull Guardian. He only gets his negate while Lo is on the field so being able to keep Lo on the field as you summon him is very strong into a lot of boards and playing with a lot of hands.
2. There are some really strong and synergistic Extra Deck cards that I think warrant play especially in the current format. Namely Chaos Angel and Underworld Goddess w/ some Charmers. Diviner is a one card Chaos Angel + access to Lo and your VV engine which is very powerful going second and Underworld Goddess is a LIGHT monster that is protected from targeting by Barrier. Playing Dharc (for the Diabellstar decks) and Lyna for the mirror can help climb into Goddess but also trigger S:P's on summon banish if you are in a tight spot.
I do genuinely think this deck is insanely strong and obviously slept on in the current format considering the obsessive popularity and fixation on Fire Kings and other fire piles (for good reason) and will only get stronger with the new Continuous Spell in the next set that allows Lo to go straight into a ritual summon and help to play around Droll a lot better.
Sidenote, I am very happy more people are catching on to Earth Golem as a Super Poly target. It plays so beautifully into common endboard pieces like S:P and Apollousa. And you have multiple ways to easily access it with Dyna Mondo and Linkuriboh. And the fact that it beats over every single ED monster in the game pretty much, can be summoned on your opponent's turn to guarantee you live 'till your next turn, and can be crashed into large non-ED monsters to revive the Linkuriboh or Dyna Mondo that was used (while also allowing you to use both Linkuriboh and Dyna Mondo because Linkuriboh is not a summon effect and Dyna Mondo is on special not link summon). As a legitimate line of play, you can purposefully not use any effects when you summon monsters (depending on your boardstate) to not allow your opponent's S:P to trigger her tag out effect, activate Super Poly when you establish Linkuriboh or Dyna Mondo (they can't respond with S:P at that point), go into Earth Golem with your Cyberse and their S:P and then crash into a Garunix that could also more than likely be on their field, summon back the Dyna Mondo and THEN activate its effect to shuffle a ritual and also their Garunix or whatever you need to target.
Someone pin this. This is great info.
do yk what duel sim he uses and how to get it?
This deck is even more insane when you add herald of perfection and ultimateness...as they can be summoned via the voiceless voice ritual. And with saffira on the field you can use lo as discard fodder for heralds negate only to get it back with saffira.
My headphones disconnected in the middle of the deck breakdown and I just kept watching because it seemed like a bit MBT would do.
wow but yes
Finally an archetype that represents my introvert self. The best kind of representation since they raided our genders
Drop pot of p and take dogm engine better version
they never gave mine back :(
Novox... No vox, no voice... voiceless voice... k konami
No stop it, you're making me like the localized name
Good. LIKE IT @@ashikjaman1940
Nah, too wordy. Novox is already perfect as it is.
They're just making writing deck lists tedious. They need to stop changing archetype names.
@@fg009letyrds8 This. The change was completely unnecessary.
Then again, this isn't the first stupid localisation.
perfect place to quote DBZA:
"If someone with one hand speaks sign language, is that a speech impediment or an accent?"
(The answer is speech impediment, btw)
do yk what duel sim he uses and how to get it?
@@whitereaper9761 lil late but its project ignis EDOpro
@@whitereaper9761he uses project ignis and it’s pretty ease to download
I'm loving these intro skits with Danny and Leah.
Interestingly enough since they dont necessarily need to go into ED you can run Branded fusion with 1 albaz and 1 Jowgen and make sanctifire with them then next turn summon jowgen to your field which will be protected under the voiceless continuous spell since its light
That is so evil wow
"Shukusei". The fan translation was a complete improvisation, and there was zero chance that was gonna be it.
Still doesn’t make “voiceless voice” a terrible name.
You should consider replacing one of the copies of Sauravis with Odd-Eyes Pendulumgraph Dragon. It can be added to the hand by Saffira (the non-ritual one) and Skull Guardian since it's a light dragon ritual monster and it adds an additional spell negate to the end board if you find a way to ritual summon twice (so you'll have to search the ritual spell and have additional fodder to be able to summon it). It also gives you a little bit of follow-up since it can add back both the ritual spell and itself to the hand in the end phase. The downside is you can't summon it from the deck with Sauravis (the non-ritual one) because it MUST be ritual summoned and you also can't search it with Pre Prep nor with the continuous spell
do yk what duel sim he uses and how to get it?
@@whitereaper9761project ignis aka edopro just google it
You CAN search him with ritual sanctuary though..the same can be said for the ritual heralds which are also recomendable.
I love this deck, it has all sorts of interactions that you can set up. One omni, one special summon negate, a spin, a pop, and target negation
very cringe interactions, those are 3 negates
@zenbozic6184 Cringe? Bruh, have you seen combo decks endboards recently? They don't let you play the game. This one at least has very specific types of negates. That ain't cringe.
@@BuckysKnifeFlip okay lets see the meta decks right now: ah fire kings! now let me count all the negates fire kings have:
@zenbozic6184 Great job pointing out exactly one deck. Fucking brilliant you are.
@@BuckysKnifeFlip which makes like 50% of the upcoming meta. lets see the other ones: branded doesnt put up negates, runick decks rarely put up negates (potentially a baronne in synchro variants), kash doesnt put up negates (again except for a random baronne here and there), which means the only negate spam deck in the meta would be mannadium and yeah i would say its just as cringe as voiceless voice, a bunch of 1card combos that lead to negates, boring interaction, boring to play vs
The opening bits always make me smile! Thank you for giving me something to look forward to in my work mornings
Still patiently waiting for my Crab Turtle archetype
I feel like throwing random ritual monsters into a deck with the libromancer engine is starting to become a valid strategy, first it was dogmatika then it was mikanko and now voiceless voice will probably work with it.
do yk what duel sim he uses and how to get it?
@@whitereaper9761 ygopro
Joseph and Leah really gave their all in that intro a trully emotional, dramaticand political peroformance that is worthy of an oscar
Skull guardian is my all time favorite ritual monster
Crossout package might be worth playing in the side to deal with Droll when going first. Droll doesn’t seem to be super common in the main, but everywhere in the side so having an answer to it game 2/3 might be worth considering seeing as we still have Crossout at 3.
alot of hands can play around droll. you don't need to always grab saffira, its exactly why something like nib , odd-eyes pendelum dragon and the nadir package should be played over fenrir, because then your ritual spell is live in hand more often.
Trenchant insight into a bon mot? This guy must have played the My Dinner with Andre arcade cabinet
I love how laser targeted and obscure this is! The correct mindset to watch MBT.
Danny save us!
Another Ritual W! Let’s gooo!!!!
Voiceless is actually kind of inspiring....like a guardian to protect those who cant speak out to opressors is actually really badass
I love the incorporating of Mute Spittah. Nice touch for BHM ❤️
I love this archetype so much, I've been testing it in edopro since December and I had a blast. I clicked as soon as I saw a Novox (Lo?)
Kind of sad not seeing any ritual saffira in the decklist, I like her, but i understand the decision
atleast the new one will be releasing post legacy of destruction! alot of decklists don't run it but its still a strong retrain.
Voiceless Voice Skill Guardian: "They don't know *I AM THE RIGHTEOUS HAND, OF THE FATHER!!!* "
I cant wait to make my bad Hieratic deck with these cards. I already made one featuring Saffira.
List?
@darkking669 Well damn bro. I mean, I only really play on MD. The only card that is illegal in the tcg that's in my deck is my second copy of called by the grave. I can still write it down if you want. Must say that I ain't the best at deck building. Although hieratics are the only deck I really know in and out of, They aren't too complicated, tho.
@@buttoxpepe6564 no worries
TCG continues its streak of localizing archetype names in the dumbest ways possible.
It's a nearly direct translation, which is what everyone always wants them to do with every other card
@@__-be1gk silenforc was cooler though
Sauravis is so cool. I experimented with it in libromancer for a little because it was a handtrap that unbricked certain hands
I would love to see a TMT on that new TCG exclusive archetype!
when the throws are at the level of that snake-eye fire king player, any deck can beat it.
I'd definitely recommend some books to dodge Imperm/Veiler on Diviner and Lo. It's the decks most vital chokepoint by far.
VV is probably one of the stronger rogue decks in the coming formats on paper, but it really suffers from the kinds of non-engine floating around. Ash, Belle, Droll, Imperm and Veiler are all able to either stop your turn entirely or force you to commit to ressources you'd rather keep for later turns.
The trick is to not waste money on diviner and pkay the chad dogmatika package instead
you can say the exact same thing for FK... droll hurts them as well as an ash/imperm at the right time. The key is to play as if your opponent has the droll and ensure when you you do get drolled you can still play.
@@tickledeggzUnfortunately, you desperately need lo and being able to make chaos angel going 2nd is invaluable
The dogmatika engine is great too but too risky in mirrors and against branded
Isn't Sauravis already fulfill that role?
Is that Leah, from the popular and now discontinued TH-cam series: Progresion Playoffs? Good to see her.
Hey hey hey the PUNK engine is used to get out Photon Lord turbo to negate Nib AND add a lvl 3 SS to hand, with e-tele...
The fact that I was watching rap battle parody 3 days ago is a sign I should play this deck (what a nostalgic throwback btw)
This deck is pretty cool, reminds me of old nekroz, just without the floodgates and hand rips, deffo going to consider picking it up for locals
Damn crazy well played through droll.
I feel morally disgusted whenever i play prosperity, so i replaced it for preparation of rites
I find the attack stat of the new ritual really funny, cause that 50 attack is gonna prevent Drytron from summoning it XD
My favorite new deck in recent times, it just feels good to play.
That mute rapper clip hahahah. You're a legend
Been waiting for a decent ritual archetype with staying power since Libromancers.
Sadly, the last good one was Nekroz, almost 10 years ago. I think they were skeptical about making a strong Ritual archetype after Nekroz‘s reign of terror
@@stevenashley27 Drytron was good for a bit though?
@@stevenashley27So we're just going to forget Drytron huh?
to be fair, drytron is a little easy to forget simply because there were no events when it was relevant. @@JoelBurger
Lol drytron got hit twice on the banlist what you talking about
Can't wait for MBT tackling the Yubel archetype
It is with great sadness that I admit there is another ritual archetype that can swing over my big beefy drytron men
That was not 10 minutes I will see you in court mr MBT!
Yep, seems voiceless to me.
So in the first segment, Leah would be Lo, Danny would be Skull Knight, and MBT would be... Herald of the Arc Light
Looking forward to a ten minute testing for Ghoti
0:08 understandable have a great day
Wait I love the way this deck plays
The trias play was very cool!
Yeah, as it turns out, Trias Hierarchia has more to its effect than just summoning itself.
The mute spittah reference was 🔥
god I wish they just called the archetype Voiceless why did they even have to add the Voice part
Looks like Ritual Summoning is back to the meta
I’m working on some stuff with the new aromage cards I’m so excited with all the new stuff PHNM gave us. This set is something else man
Who is the person besides Danny in the opener?
Leah
Love to seeing part of the dream team together
Why are you not using silenforc blessing?
I'm watching because the deck is in Master Duel
Mute spitta was such a nice touch 👏🏿
ritual cage is also a good side tech for this deck as weird as it sounds
Well this was great. Thank you
Oh sick another strong deck this format! Probably not worth my life savings either. Wait… how much is lo?????
Is there anyway where I could convince you to put off snake eye fire king even longer for a different and worse snake eye deck in the form of Snake Eye Horus Volcanic
I wonder if MBT sees the irony in him constantly complaining about how long Gage and Cimo talk for in Prog, and then taking 9 minutes to do a deck profile for a ritual deck. Shout out to the fact that the deck profile took longer than the actual duels too, something MBT's also complained about when watching Prog
On the bright side, he's back to describing what the cards do and how they play off each other instead of just reciting their effect texts. It's nice to get context for how the deck functions beyond just looking at the cards.
This is one of the stupidest comments I have ever read. This is a primer video for people who want information about how the deck that they can pick up and play works as opposed to a video where people go to keep score of two guys duelling with decks IWishIwasDead made that they will never touch in their lives.
The problem is… since the goblin video every 3rd comment wanted him to explain the combos of the card and why it is important for the chosen ratio. Not just what the card reads. Myself included. So even if he complains. It is clear his viewers want more indepth talk of the deck core. If he complains others do it well…that is why polls and comments exist. You do right by a majority of the fans and youll keep getting views long as you dont mind doing said content.
The skit had me rolling bruh 😭
The last line gpt me fr lol
I'm waiting for the Yubel TMT. I have a list
What's the consensus on scareclaw goblin riders?
WAIT TRIAS HAS EFFECTS?
Turn one on the bo3 you should have searched the ritual sauarvis to negate the imperm. If you had done that you would have full combo due to diviner itself already getting you to skull guardian and full combo. Please PLEASE if you have lo/diviner and have pre-prep alwasy search sauravis to insulate your plays. If he had imperm your diviner the turn was over.
Can someone explain what MBT meant at 12:03
I don't understand why S:P would stop him from going to battle
When you summon SP with an extra deck monster it gets to banish something from field or GY but you cant attack directly anymore that turn.
What happened to silenforcers?😭
What’s the fusion on the far left?
BUT IF THAT'S CAMERAMAN, THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
does.....does she have synergy with gishkis? being able to be used as the whole tribute is insane
No because the Gishki's aren't Lights, they're Waters.
Also Gishki have like three monsters that already exist to do that exact effect.
Dragoon turbo - IN BLUE
I still feel so betrayed that they humanwashed Saffira
What would happen if droll went the way of maxx "c". In any format in which it is really good, it effectively skips your opponents turn. We can have cards that help beat these decks but they shouldn't beat them in their own. This happens a lot with droll. Just because you can play around it once in a blue moon doesn't mean it should be legal.
I usually cringe at ritual decks because they are mostly floodgate turbo decks but this one seems interesting
This deck left me speechless
For those hoping to build this deck Lo is going for $72-$85 dollars a piece on preorders so unless your lucky with packs your gonna have a hard building this in real life.
I mean, yes, but I'd rather pay 200$ for in-archetype cards rather than 360$ in diabellstar engine
@@lasterman94100 Especially if it's an archetype that won't get hit in the next 6-9 months... And these cards might not be reprintet until the Tin 2025.
14:17 you couldnt help yourself XD
the description is killing me
Wait isn't One for One anorher way of getting lo?
yo that sweater is VERY froggish, where get?
I think I will like this deck
Should have prayed for a good name, too.
I just want to know why skull guardian looks like wide putin
Is the other guy in the video with mbt dire? The into is my favorite part! Love you lvk
Going 1st and you win...well like the other decks
Silencing Leah even though she was one of the funny people from Playoffs. SMH
ITS CALLED VOICELESS VOICE!!!!!
ITS CALLED LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!
Day 1 of waiting for a crab turtle retrain
The cons:
It is Expensive!
This TMT should have been completely silent, with what you are actually saying is in the Closed Captions. Would've taken the archetype name *very* literally.
Lol the skit wa so funny.
Day 2 of asking mbt to do a full banban walk through
Please. I the rizzler request it
I can't hear a thing he's saying
Good job for Konami retraining old Skull Guardian and making it playable without the levels of Disco ball degeneracy.....👏👏👏
One of the best, worst jokes Joseph has ever made 12:20