I recently picked up a used Supermicro file server. This is the first of a few videos regarding the topic. I have a second channel: / @markfurneaux2659
This is awesome to see!! I just got a similar server still waiting on it to arrive. I only have 24 bays but have the sas2 backplane. I plan to try and quiet it down as well and move my unraid server into it. I am excited to see what you do with it.
Great comment on the second CPU to be removed. The reason why I came to this video is only to tell that the second CPU is absolutely not needed in a server that is simply serving files. I am really glad that you informed the viewers about this very important detail. Thank you and good luck with your future projects!
I pulled the second processor and RAM and it only saves me 35W. I'm actually more inclined to keep the extra16GB of RAM, so I might put it back in solely for that reason.
exciting news! welcome to ecc ram land :) since you switched from ubuntu to debian did you ever thought about switching to the real zfs you get with a unix like solaris? i switched last year and couldn't be more happy!
Just take out the fans blowing in opposite directions (same as Mark took out) for instant improvements. I think it does mess with the air flow for the drives on the back though.
Excellent video. Thank you. Please do not remove the 2nd CPU. You might need to use the server for more than a file server. If you use ESXI you might need the cores for the VM. And even if you remove the CPU the power saving is not much at an idle state.
Normally you don't want to swap hard drive boards, they contain calibration data specific to the disk they're attached to. But obviously for you that worked. Interesting...
I agree. Money might be a problem though, buying a whole new set of xeon's just to nerf your server. but then again, so is buying a whole new ram set of higher capacity.
Hello Mark. What OS are you using? What will you choose between FreeNas and Unraid ? Or maybe you have a better suggestiong. The usage will be file storage plus 2 or 3 VMs. Thanks
yo bro i am interested in building a amd epyc server , but i am new to servers could you help direct me on how i would set up E-atx closest thing i got to it was french :(
You can't easily get reliable server components and a large number of drive bays without going to a server form factor like this. It's more expensive than ghettoing something together, but it is more reliable, which is what I'm after.
45Drives Storinator, it's quiter than you bought it's using etnerprise grade hardware you can have between 15 and 60 drive bay depending on the model. but they are not as cheap as retired server hardware though
Ive never seen somebody so concerned with power like that! I i can get my servers to run using only one of their redundant power supplies them im generally happy :)
Exactly. I'm currently using 2 NAS. One as a generic file server, the other as a backup server. It would be awesome to have both in one unit that's extremely scalable and could potentially host my test server, web server and Windows server VMs as well.
I have serious issues that might not be as complicated... is it possible to plug the Supermicro directly to the wall or would it cause a power failure cause I tried everything including replacing cpus and placing whole board in different case and when I press power Bttn red light indicating power failure comes right on within a second preventing the system from starting can u plz help if u can
Hey i am just letting you know that there is a bug that prevents entering the BIOS on some of the X9 motherboard series when the year rolls over to 2021. We have to upgrade some of our servers to a new BIOS. I wonder how they manage to fail when designing the BIOS. It would be interesting to know what it is.
It is a really bad idea to use low static pressure fans in those chassis. You are going to fry the mobo especially if they have the dual LSI HBAs like they usually do in that enclosure. Edit: This is less of problem for home use mind you.
I'm used to having to put in fans just for PCIe cards in tower cases. If I do end up going with low air flow fans, I'll need to do the same thing here.
You already have a lot of power consumed by the system for just a file server. Couldn't you use the second CPU to run virtual servers to provide other services?
5.5 years later and I just got a system that is similar to this, albeit newer (with an X10DRi-T4+ motherboard, which comes with quad 10 GbE RJ45 NICs), and my system came with dual Intel Xeon E5-2690 v4 (14-core/28-thread, 2.6 GHz base clock) processors
I Agree with the getting fucked in Canada. There is very little domestic you can buy, and importing anything is a real pain and expense. I was lucky having connections in the US to help me out.
Lol noctua fans in a server and 3 fans removed. This guy is going to have a lot of drive failures. They like to live when they run cool they like to died when they run even just a little warm. Excessive cooling is why my drives last 10 yeard running under consistent heavy load. Noctua fans arent capable of coolong the server if it ever suffers heavy load. An SAS back plane being disabled might save you some pennys... At least if you hear the server fans in other rooms of your house you know its working or at less the fans are and thats peice of mind that your drives aren't over heating.
Adam949 A common misconception is that a colder hard drive will last longer than a hotter hard drive. A 2007 study by Google showed the reverse to be true.[1] Hard drives with average temperatures below 27 °C had a failure rate worse than hard drives with the highest reported average temperature of 50 °C, and a failure rate at least twice as high as the optimum temperature range of 37 °C to 46 °C.[1]
This is awesome to see!! I just got a similar server still waiting on it to arrive. I only have 24 bays but have the sas2 backplane. I plan to try and quiet it down as well and move my unraid server into it. I am excited to see what you do with it.
Nice grab! Looks like a lot of fun to tinker with.
I would like too see your work flow with this device or in general in your engineering project.
Have a good day
I have two of the same chassis. I recommend to remove the fanwall and replace it with 3x120mm pwm server fans. More quiet and better airflow.
Great comment on the second CPU to be removed. The reason why I came to this video is only to tell that the second CPU is absolutely not needed in a server that is simply serving files. I am really glad that you informed the viewers about this very important detail. Thank you and good luck with your future projects!
I pulled the second processor and RAM and it only saves me 35W. I'm actually more inclined to keep the extra16GB of RAM, so I might put it back in solely for that reason.
exciting news! welcome to ecc ram land :)
since you switched from ubuntu to debian did you ever thought about switching to the real zfs you get with a unix like solaris? i switched last year and couldn't be more happy!
Need that fan video, my super micro server sounds like a jet
Just take out the fans blowing in opposite directions (same as Mark took out) for instant improvements. I think it does mess with the air flow for the drives on the back though.
Excellent video. Thank you. Please do not remove the 2nd CPU. You might need to use the server for more than a file server. If you use ESXI you might need the cores for the VM. And even if you remove the CPU the power saving is not much at an idle state.
You got a sub from me. love this case. That is a nice case.
Normally you don't want to swap hard drive boards, they contain calibration data specific to the disk they're attached to. But obviously for you that worked. Interesting...
Think Linus has one or two Racks like that one... May go with something smaller ! Thank you for the video ! tjl
What's your drive plan? I'd have a hard time filling that beast!
you can also buy a low power cpu and minimize the amount of ram modules to reduce power usage
I agree. Money might be a problem though, buying a whole new set of xeon's just to nerf your server. but then again, so is buying a whole new ram set of higher capacity.
well i would try to get a great deal on the low power cpu and then sell the fast cpu's for profit or as close to it.
I have the same LSI SAS controller and 8 HDDs in 2 x RAID-Z vDEVS and it's. It as quick as I expected it to be...
Hello Mark. What OS are you using? What will you choose between FreeNas and Unraid ? Or maybe you have a better suggestiong. The usage will be file storage plus 2 or 3 VMs. Thanks
What throughput in MB/s do you get off 8 HDDs ?
yo bro i am interested in building a amd epyc server , but i am new to servers could you help direct me on how i would set up E-atx closest thing i got to it was french :(
Nice server. What's the story behind/reasons for such a high power/capacity server? Was it cheap?
You can't easily get reliable server components and a large number of drive bays without going to a server form factor like this. It's more expensive than ghettoing something together, but it is more reliable, which is what I'm after.
45Drives Storinator, it's quiter than you bought it's using etnerprise grade hardware you can have between 15 and 60 drive bay depending on the model. but they are not as cheap as retired server hardware though
Where do I find a case like this?
Ive never seen somebody so concerned with power like that!
I i can get my servers to run using only one of their redundant power supplies them im generally happy :)
how much did this run you?
your audio is alright
Did you have to pay Canadian import duties? Shipping from the usa to Canada? No such trade barrier to ship to the USA!
Did you ever post that fan customization video? I searched fan in both your channels and couldn't find anything?
250w at idle... Thank you for reminding me why I can't have something like this. :(
daaamn, that's a lot for just private usage..
I have a server that pulls 600W idle and 1KW at full tilt!
Mike Bruschke maybe a weird question but why you need a file server?
Exactly. I'm currently using 2 NAS. One as a generic file server, the other as a backup server. It would be awesome to have both in one unit that's extremely scalable and could potentially host my test server, web server and Windows server VMs as well.
LoL That's nothing... Try the Dell R910 with 4 CPUs, 64 sticks of ram and 16x 2.5 drives. pushing 563W chilling
I have serious issues that might not be as complicated... is it possible to plug the Supermicro directly to the wall or would it cause a power failure cause I tried everything including replacing cpus and placing whole board in different case and when I press power Bttn red light indicating power failure comes right on within a second preventing the system from starting can u plz help if u can
Hey i am just letting you know that there is a bug that prevents entering the BIOS on some of the X9 motherboard series when the year rolls over to 2021. We have to upgrade some of our servers to a new BIOS. I wonder how they manage to fail when designing the BIOS. It would be interesting to know what it is.
I legit thought he made a small file server running on NVMe
It is a really bad idea to use low static pressure fans in those chassis. You are going to fry the mobo especially if they have the dual LSI HBAs like they usually do in that enclosure.
Edit: This is less of problem for home use mind you.
Evergreen those HBAs get really hot!
I'm used to having to put in fans just for PCIe cards in tower cases. If I do end up going with low air flow fans, I'll need to do the same thing here.
You already have a lot of power consumed by the system for just a file server. Couldn't you use the second CPU to run virtual servers to provide other services?
v1 or v2 Xeons?
Dear Mark may i know how you can using the ib network?
Way too much power consumption.
5.5 years later and I just got a system that is similar to this, albeit newer (with an X10DRi-T4+ motherboard, which comes with quad 10 GbE RJ45 NICs), and my system came with dual Intel Xeon E5-2690 v4 (14-core/28-thread, 2.6 GHz base clock) processors
You must have some serious power bills...
Not really, depending on his price per kWh, it could be $9 to $20 a month. To run a server, I'd pay that.
more like 50$
I have a 48port Cisco enterprise gigsbit switch i would like to send you, otherwise it will go in the trash as i am limited on room since my move.
Daniel Tekmyster i wana see
Daniel Tekmyster If he doesnt like it, send it to me :D
I'll take it :D, I am currently reworking my home network, so I'll need a new switch anyway ;D
why would a fileserver need so much processing power?
cry.sys
Where do you find old servers
ebay also craigslist . But if your in ca your fucked
I Agree with the getting fucked in Canada. There is very little domestic you can buy, and importing anything is a real pain and expense. I was lucky having connections in the US to help me out.
She is a beauty!
Lol I just have a sff HP pc as my file server
Xenon777 I can 1 up you.
I have a pi 3.
Toby Cowles I have a rpi 2.
You are why I quit the home server thing.. You don't even know.
Nice piece of iron :)
This thing is total overkill for a file server. Kind of a waste.
I mean... not really... why would it be?
Lol noctua fans in a server and 3 fans removed. This guy is going to have a lot of drive failures. They like to live when they run cool they like to died when they run even just a little warm. Excessive cooling is why my drives last 10 yeard running under consistent heavy load. Noctua fans arent capable of coolong the server if it ever suffers heavy load. An SAS back plane being disabled might save you some pennys... At least if you hear the server fans in other rooms of your house you know its working or at less the fans are and thats peice of mind that your drives aren't over heating.
Adam949 A common misconception is that a colder hard drive will last longer than a hotter hard drive. A 2007 study by Google showed the reverse to be true.[1] Hard drives with average temperatures below 27 °C had a failure rate worse than hard drives with the highest reported average temperature of 50 °C, and a failure rate at least twice as high as the optimum temperature range of 37 °C to 46 °C.[1]