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It happens frequently. A man, a younger man, driving a $70,000 gas-guzzling pickup truck complaining about how bad the economy is. The biggest selling vehicles in the USA are Ford F-Series, Chevrolet Silverado and RAM 1500. Their reality and perception are mind-bending.
And I live in a small town that has a ton of these trucks driven mostly by men. They and the vehicles are very loud, and the drivers act as if they own the roads. I also perceive they do not have one iota of respect for women in general.
yep, I have co-workers and friends of friends who live in nice neighborhoods with big lifted trucks, and they complain about eggs and gas when gas prices have been dropping around here
@@elizabethfarkas6468 What is a women, really, Elizabeth? When a Trans MAN was declared Woman of the Year by LEFTIST Media, did you march in the streets?
Have you priced an EV and the maintenance on an EV. They are only for FAT FINGER RICH LIBERALS who work for Gov.Biz writing bad insurance policies and taxing our paychecks.
Yeah, but those egg prices! Wait until one of those 2-1 breaking Pro-choice Trump-voting women can't get emergency repro care when they desperately need it. Sad, disheartening that is level of discernment.
I'm pretty sure it all comes down to social media, between the Russians, Chinese, Musk, and now Facebook along with Fox it's a wonder people get any true information. We needed to take what happened in 2016 much more seriously and not allowed MAGA to normalize their narrative full of complete falsehoods. They have killed the first amendment, I have always understood people's right to burn flags, dress up and 'reenact' certain sides, etc etc. This is different though, free speech doesn't mean someone should be allowed to convince people that a cabal is using space lasers to burn forrests with the help of their minions in government who spread dead leaves around as kindling. MAGA is a disgrace and we've allowed them to define their own reality.
I think history will be kind to Biden, he has and is accomplishing a lot. Most effects won't be felt for awhile though and we have short memories. But getting real, he should never had run a second time to begin with. I can't be the only one to think of him as an interim president, between Trump that HAD to go, and the next logical democrat. I don't know who that would have been, probably not Kamala. The electorate just isn't that deep. After the debate Biden had no chance and he was on shaky ground to begin with and people believe Trump will make things better for them. No, I can't explain it but con artists do in fact get away with shit.
Me too!🍁How could these women vote for him? Did they really think he is going to freakin protect them .. and help the middle class to great them more money in their pockets! Fools!🤢
@Droppingknowledge1234you need to stop believing what you hear from Joe Rogan and research things for yourself. That’s not happening here in Canada. The bill you’re under the impression exists doesn’t as you think it does. Do your own research and critically think and stop being a sheep.
@Droppingknowledge1234 Please send an example of a Canadian getting prosecuted for speaking unpopular views, if that's what you are talking about. And what is that unpopular view? I've spoken many unpopular views and have never even received a letter in the mail warning me to shut up. Popular also depends on the side you are on.
@ yeah, this person is a mindless Joe Rogan fan why doesn’t verify when an influencer is correct or not. If this person was right, half of the population of Canada would be in jail right now lol. We wouldn’t have a single Canadian podcaster left on the internet if he was right.
My heart breaks when I hear how the USA complain about the economy. I live in South Africa and you should look at the rest of the world economy and thank President Biden.
To nearly all Republicans, the lack of education and the rejection of facts are epidemic. They point themselves to their own fear and hold on for dear life. That fear in 2024, the cost of eggs. Pathetic right?! We have brought stupid to a fine art. Our premiere idiot will be taking office on Monday.
@@LiberalinOregon and every day trumps worshippers had the ability to look into those false claims. Instead they took their blissful ignorance, enhanced by the fear of the cost of eggs, to the polls with them. Geezuschristmas.
@@LiberalinOregonhe also told us what a garbage country we are. I don't know how they voted for someone who wouldn't care if we were all just wiped out tomorrow. He straight up would not care.
YES!!! Similarly, as when children who seek to protect their abusers lie to social workers, teachers and police. Identity politics and self-destructive alliances (self-hate) may correlate. 😢
Nah as someone (not a woman to be fair) who grew up in an abusive household and voted for Harris, voting a secret ballot against a fascist is a million times easier than cutting off abusers, especially if they are bankrolling your life and you've had bad experiences with the systems that are supposed to hold said abusers accountable.
Trump has revolted me since he came to power. Tragic for America, a democracy? Why do people think trump cares one ioata for the cares of the average American? Trump does not care one bit for anyone that does not agree for his politics or POWER. trump wants to stay out of jail and stay in power to protect himself, always the most motivating factor in his quest for power, to stay out out of jail and promote his agendas that DO NOTBENEFIT the average American citizen, trumps politics protect and benefit trump. Wake up people.
Only it not. In those situations the abused has a relationship with this person. They may share a home, a child, a job. trump has no relationship on a personal level with these ppl. America was lambasted with lies, more lies, and then more lies. Trump had an evilness in the country to point to, illegal aliens. That’s why trump did not want the House to pass the border bill.
Don't forget projection. That's an important one. Remember when he said how ruthless the billionaires supporting Harris were? And we all yelled, "but they're not supporting Harris." Well, now we know that was projection and people should have been taking what he was saying, knowing how he says it, more seriously.
Hang on one minute. Brownstein says Democrats need to avoid culture war issues. But that's exactly what they did this election. Trump made them into issues anyway. You may not be interested in culture war, but culture war is interested in you.
As a white woman, I am furious at my fellow women. It’s one thing for men to not care about women’s rights, it’s quite another when women vote against the well being of women. Also…. Please please let’s not diminish that racism and misogyny played in this election. We must NOT keep ignoring this. I think this accounts for MANY of the non-voters… they didn’t want to vote for Trump, but also did not want to vote for a (black) woman. It’s just not going to show up in the polls. Men (and women) are not going to say this out loud in polls, etc.
Anyone with eyes G-d gave them saw through Kammi-Devi-Tim's Happy Hour of Power. Today Hollywood is burning in heII now, for what they almost succeeded in achieving.
Me either, me either. Actually I don’t understand how anyone with a basic understanding of government, democracy, history, economics, etc and a heart and 2 brain cells could vote for Trump and his cohort of millionaire/billionaire oligarchs.
My problem with this program is, that it’s just not taken into consideration that Trump never shut up the whole time Biden was in office. What happened was that Trump was out there as many times as he could to gain attention for himself and to knock Biden down no other president has done that to another president that’s just unforgivable and horrible, but it’s our reality and it’s a ugly one.
LEFTWING Media has been committing INSURRECTION 24/7 since Biden was deposed by Kamala-Devi-Tim and her Fast $$$ Hollywood Elites. _"I ain't be gettin no milli'in!"_ 0prah
This!! 💯👏🏾👏🏾 I wonder what if Kamala really wants to be the nominee for 2028, if she’ll go quietly or actually be out and visible. That’s what the Dems need to do.
People voted against Democrats because they were unhappy about the economy. But, they are better off today than they were 4 years ago when they were in the middle of a pandemic and in a recession. Explain that to me.
There is and was a 24/7 screed of examples of a bad economy from NEWSCorp, Twitter (x), and 465 talk radio mics over the past four years of the Biden Administration. Did you ever hear anything positive about Joe Biden on FOX or any other right wing outlets? 🎉
Here’s an example - I have worked for the same company for 4 years. During that time they were purchased by another company. All the top people get paid well. Me? I’ve gotten 1 raise in 4 years for 3.00 an hour despite doing outstanding work. I didn’t even get a bonus at Christmas. Yet all my expenses have gone up. I’m not happy. I voted for Harris because I know Biden did try to make things better for the middle class but something has to change that stops price gouging and rewarding the top and letting the workers suffer.
Our whole office got fired at Xmas and our 'work unit' offshored to In'dia. So be happy you still have a job. Harris was 100% on board with flooding H1-Bs and ln'dia offshoring yours. She's *IN'DIAN* JAMAICAN. The Kammi-Devi-Tim 'Black' schtick was for the vote parody.
People have short memories, when the Orange Man was president in 2019-2020 a 1000 people a day were dying of Covid , millions of people lost their jobs and T Rump added 7 trillion to the national debt. The country was suffering and they think that was better than 4 years of Biden bringing the US back from the brink. I still can’t figure out why people would vote for T Rump 🇺🇸💙🦅🇺🇸💙
@@cherylsmith3002FOX is the media opium of the right. These people watch nothing else for their news. Hence they get a very carefully curated and massively dishonest view of Trump and how bad he is. That’s a fact. FOX has been proven to lie as a matter of daily strategy.
I agree! Unfortunately,this country isn’t ready for a female president! But I also think Biden’s unwillingness to let Harris to distance herself form him hurt her.
Im from Europe and this is truly baffling to me and a majority of Europeans..the lying, racism, fearmongering, conspiracy theories and pure incompetence among GOP is mind boggling.how people can even think "yeah im voting for this" is very hard to understand tbh..here in Europe we ADMIRED America and Americans, we allways "looked up" to America, but now people are confused, unsure what to think..its just so SHOCKING and bizarre whats happening, its just UNBELIVABLE, insane..Republican party is a CULT now, cult of personality, they lost touch with reality, cant reason with them anymore, truth doesnt matter, facts doesnt matter, logic and common sense doesnt matter, evil is good and good is evil..
When it's all said and done VP HARRIS did and said exactly what she was supposed to say. I'm sick of people finding reasons to blame her for other things. They didn't want a black woman for President period. Democrats need to ask themselves they didn't talk to their constituents
America just can't admit they have a race problem until maybe 50 or 60 or 70 years later when they finally have to in history books. When not censored.
I think this accounts for many of the ‘non-voters’. They didn’t want to vote for Trump, but they also didn’t want to vote for a black woman. This isn’t going to show up in polls, etc. because most people won’t say out loud that was their reason. We MUST not leave this out of these discussions and postmortems of the election.
I feel the same the message was strong and clear.... No one ever considered that this time the election was really stollen! Why in hell would trump tell his followers that they did not have to vote? That he had all the votes he needed! Why did Elon Musk tell attorney general Ken Paxton that He was the reason that trump won all the battleground states he said to him I did that! And no one question that? America did not vote for this man I assure you! Our own Data Scientist have been writing letters and blowing horns to let everyone know that! the data shows that the election was indeed altered and had many anomalies and all we have to do is look at the grafts that are public records and you will see it! It's called the Russian tail! Trump and Elon did the unthinkable and we ignored it!
Very enlightening. The point I haven't heard is my belief (as a Harris voter) that a substantial group of people, men in particular, in the swing states couldn't force themselves to vote for a black woman.
@@unme4728seriously?? How many men have aligned with trump? Way too many. These men must not care about the women in their lives, mothers, sisters, friends, relatives. Women need to become more involved, and become an EQUAL voice in protecting democracy, otherwise trump, will railroad the American people into a terrible weakening of democracy. trump is 1000% about promoting what keeps him out of jail, and works to trumps OWN self interests. Wake up people, before it is too late to protect the democracy the United States has fought for and worked so hard to preserve.
Victor Martinez, who owns Allentown PA's Hispanic radio station LA Mega, fielded many calls from Latin men that said the couldn't vote for a woman. He said that he believes that a female presidential candidate will continue to struggle among this demographic because of ingrained cultural bias. The men are the boss and the woman belongs in the kitchen, is the mentality. But tell me how President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico, a woman, was elected. Is there a difference between Puerto Rican men and Mexican men? 🤔
To my slight surprise, among Asian Americans immigrants and other immigrant populations in Brooklyn, distrust of or misogyny for women, and racist beliefs could not bring them to vote for a black Asian woman.
Because he lied to them, he told them that he gave back to the State. He removed himself from the picture. And only stupid women fell for it and those women that voted for him, they are stupid.
I have to leave so can't watch this whole episode right now. but as an 83 year old white woman I think that white women as a whole screwed themselves, and every other woman. There is no way Kamala shouldn't have done better. Black women held up the bargain. I realize that good health care is evidently not a winning proposition but the shear fact that rump is such a degraded human being should have been a factor. We have what they deserve.
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on. See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
I've been a straight, white, male my entire life. Yeah, the amount of discrimination against me has been terrifying. Give me a joke! When I was a teenager, I got drunk and punched a cop right in the face; I got a ride home. A teenage neighbor of mine, who was black, got arrested for loitering in front of his house. I was arrested for drunk driving and possession of marijuana at the age of 20. My father told me that I was pleading "guilty" as I was guilty. I went to court and pled "guilty". The judge, who was also white, would not accept my plea and found me "not guilty". Whites whining about "discrimination" is just stupid. Whites have it so tough....WHAT A JOKE! Side note: I am now sober over 18 years and a lawyer.
In my neighborhood, my neighbor who is a very successful construction worker and black, and his wife also black was a doctor and were hassled by neighbors here in Marin County California for walking around the neighborhood. They ended up moving out because of this.
@@Redcrane05 I went and watched-voting for trump sure isn’t going to get you any of the fixes he proposed. IMO-Scott Galloway has lots of interesting things to say. I do wish he wasn’t a SHEIN investor, touting their great business model. I lost a lot of respect for him after he shared that information. SHEIN steals artists’ IP, employs unethical business practices in their production, and is a giant polluter in the fashion industry. If he really cares about his kid(s), he ought to find a better company to invest in.
@@robynnordstrom7799 Dear lord, when did I say that clip supports voting for Trump? Bit of a leap there, don't you think? I voted against Trump, using Harris to do so - between the two I picked the least worst candidate. But the idea that the lived conditions of our economic system are ABSOLUTE PERFECTION is cognitive bias at it's best, regardless of what a specific(incomplete) set of metrics say. What's minimum wage right now? How's housing affordability? What's the rate of medical bankruptcy in this country? Why do we pay significantly more for our medical treatment and have lower positive outcomes? The system *is a mess*. So I find the gaslighting comment in this case *deep* hypocrisy - and in my opinion how Trump got back in office, by telling the American people everything was perfection, when they new it wasn't, the anti-Trump contingent stayed home. Since you are making virtue purity assessments, what's your take on Nancy Pelosi's investment activities?
To me, all these theories about why people voted for Trump are excruciating to listen to. They ignore the gigantic illogical elephant in the room, and missing the bigger problem. Look at it like this.. In an ideal world, you would want the best person possible as President. If you were to rank every single US citizen by their suitability for the Office, I don't know who would be number 1. But I do know who's name would be dead last. It's easy to argue this on any metric. Even a child would understand why Trump should never be let anywhere near any position of power. Yet half the electorate fail to make this simple observation. WHY??
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on. See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
That's exactly why the AfD in Germany is a Nazi-party: if all the Nazis are in your party, it doesn't matter that there are also non-Nazis in your party. Your party is the Nazi party now.
@@kenlandon6130 I like to think about that in terms of talk, decisions and actions. Actions and decisions are much more consequential than talk. We shouldn't be purists regarding talk (even if strictly non-racist talk would be desirable, if such a thing truly existed), but we should demand strictly anti-racist actions.
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on. See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
How incredibly depressing as I listened to this. When women voted for the price of eggs over pro choice is unacceptable! They would put a crook in the White House over inflation. I’m a 77 year old college educated white woman and this makes me furious! T should not be responsible for running a McDonalds!
I 100% reject the poll discussing how woman voted against their own right cuz of the price of eggs. When have polls, either pre or post election, ever been right. WE know that black men, latinoX men and all the maga meatheads voted him in.
@AM-fs1je They asked the questions, and I gave an explanation that I had, but if i heard. I couldn't vote. No Canadians allowed. I would have voted for a goast over Yoggie 🐻 steeling everyone's picnic 🧺 Good luck to everyone.
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on. See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
Always comes down to money. Those in the top 25% never think they have enough and those in the bottom 25% can barely make ends meet and are willing to take a chance on rhetoric
In Michigan, they had already passed an abortion constitutional amendment. As far as the average Michigander was concerned, abortion rights had been addressed. Sending a zillion e-mails about abortion and asking for money indicated to me that the dems just didn't know how to run a campaign.
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on. See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
Women in states where abortion is legal don’t see their rights as at risk . They don’t believe they will do a federal ban because “he’s pro states rights”. I know women in WA who say this.
The affordable housing crisis is huge but a lot of that can be blamed on private equity firms, then groceries high due to corporate greed. Where did these horrible people come from? I tend to blame in on the 1980’s.
This was so damned depressing. Kind of in a rage coma right now. I was a little girl during the last years of the Vietnam War; locked out of the house during the Watergate hearings; thought there might be some accountability during Iran-Contra; heard the 2nd plane hit and whipped around in time to see the fireball and welcomed my husband home from 2 WFC; was disgusted at the bs Iraq war(s) - and even grossed out by military force against Afghanistan; took Roe v Wade for granted even though I was alive when it was passed; remembered my single mom fighting for her first credit card; was STILL hopeful enough to become a high school social studies teacher later in life; and now...I don't know what to tell my students about the idea of America vs the current reality. Was supposed to do some housecleaning today, but just don't feel like it.
It is "low-information" to think the cause of inflation WAS NOT the pandemic. It was. Therefore, although it is "the economy, stupid." It is also the "stupid, stupid."
According to the NIH, as many as 200,000 died unnecessarily because of Trump's mismanagement of COVID. I think it it is fair to blame Trump for making something that could have been managed well into something that was leading to a recession. Biden prevented a recession.
Tim Miller: enjoying the Bulwark. Keep it up. I am also a converted from republican. Listening to your podcasts, keeps me sane and hoping we can get through this madness. Im retired military and I didn’t serve for this America.
Re: voters in 22 vs. 24. Yes, the stock market was up and inflation was down---but prices hadn't dropped to pre-inflation levels (of course, they never do). And even though Kamala (rightfully) stressed that our economy was the healthiest in the world, people didn't feel it.
The Feminist movement is just too long ago. Women forget or never experienced what its like to be oppressed. They mistake the movement for telling women what to do vs. educating what their rights should be. Even the heads of the Feminist movement realized that they made some mistakes in telling women what to do and how to think/feel. This whole trad wife (traditional wife) movement seems to misunderstand as well. These gals GET TO CHOOSE!!! vs being forced into submission. Women these days are happy to vote away their own rights because they have no idea what exactly they are voting away. The right for another woman's choice.
Absolute truth. Like anti-vaxxers who have no idea what polio is so can "safely" ignore it, some young women seem to "safely" ignore their great fortune to be in a country that has given them equal rights.
People worried about their economic stability but voted for the party that led us into economic disarray in 2017-2020. They hated the loss of Roe but voted for the man responsible for its demise. They worried about housing costs and loss of housing inventory, but voted against the party with concrete plans to make housing affordability happen. They worried about maintaining the fight against Russia in Ukraine, but voted fur the party hell bent on throwing Ukraine to the curb….I’m sorry, I can’t even say what I think about their idiocy anymore because U’ll be banned from TH-cam. I love humanity m, it’s people I can’t stand.
You are not including two basic issues in your discussion, the number of eligible voters who did not vote and the ever present racism especially towards a black woman.
They will see on day 1. I’m a black woman and just a heated discussion with my church going MAGA son! He hates Harris and Biden! He told me I need to find Jesus and go to church and get saved! I’m like WTF!!! I’m stuck with his ass for the weekend!
All this also ignores that Harris spent exactly ZERO time talking about trans issues. It was ALL REPUBLICAN ADS. Not only did Dems NOT "lean into" fringe issues - they RAN away from them!
I see it more as the Right used Trans and made it into an issue, blew it up, and media repeated it for clicks. For Dems, trans and kids getting sex changed at school is Not an issue.
Here us 2 more far left loons that just can’t figure out why they, and their party, was thrown out of office. I hope they never change. The Republicans will be in power forever!
What he's saying about voters against Harris because of the economy. Proves what I've said for decades. That is that most Americans have no idea how economics actually works. Especially what can be done about inflation. Presidents don't have magic wands to lower prices.
It is hard to listen about which people voted for Trump over Harris. There is no accounting for it. Even with focus groups we can't know what people are thinking. It's not the economy. The economy is great. Prices are too high. That is not the economy. People keep buying. Why would anyone think Trump would bring prices down?
In the past the President would have had a fireside chat that was on national TV, which had very few competitors at the time. The President could have explained the economy in a way that people understood. Today we have such fragmented and politicized media that would have diluted and marginalized any similar messages we could have communicated today.
Thanks for saying the stuff that's hard to hear and actually downright depressing. I don't want to live in an information silo. We can't fix something if we don't know or accept that it's broken.
I think the guiding principle of America is this: Anything is permissible, so long as you get your money, or think that you’re going to get your money.
I think that a big part of the problem is that it's just been too long since the Cold War. People just seem not to be afraid of authoritarian governments anymore. And as far as the discussion about the voters in Springfield, I've lived in Ohio foe just over 4 years, so shortly before the 2020 election. And what I've seen from people I've met here is the most important thing to them, no matter the issues, is that the candidate has an R after his name.
How can people who care about the economy vote for Trump when he was talking about 25% tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. The amount of goods the US gets from all 3 countries is huge.
We should stop saying people were unhappy with the economy, the economy is fine, best in the world, what they're unhappy with is their lot in life, as they scroll hours a day through people flaunting their wealth on social media. The housing crisis isn't helping, of course, but that's more a Blue State issue, but people ironically voted for a billionaire, backed by billionaires because they're mad they aren't millionaires like all those people smiling in their feeds.
Cost of living keeps goin up and wages don't keep pace. It really does boil down to this. People down in my tax bracket all agree on this being the issue. We disagree on who's gonna do something about it and who's causing/enabling it. They just wanna divide us so we don't force the issue.
@catherineconner9968 it's the topic I use to bridge the divide with those in my life who aren't maga super soldiers but have been fed enough nonesense to think maybe hes not the worst option. It gets pretty hard for them to think that Trump is on our side after pointing out all 12 or so billionaires in trumps cabinet or the richest man in the world attached to him at the hip. Also pointing out the net worth increase of all of those billionaires after the election helps too haha
Butthurt over inflation. I mean, compared to orther first-world nations we really did OK. But half of all bread eaters score below average on standardized IQ tests, and here we are.
I grew up in the Palisade in the ‘50’s and ‘60 and worked in the music industry in the ‘70’s living in multiple neighborhoods in LA. It was a great place to be then. I am so sad for my friends there now, in light of the devastating fires. I visited my old home town in Dec 2023. So glad I did, as it will be a long time coming for its return.
They voted against their own interests. But elections have consequences. It’s amazing how many people in the entertainment and news industries including independent media live in California
Tim, great interview! He nailed it. Most of the cultural stuff is a dialectic the Republicans dream up and not what most Democrats care about. Up in Canada, the far-right conservatives there went after Trudeau because of his government-sponsored research about crickets as food which was probably basic research and not an objective of Trudeau's government. If you fabricate stuff you can go far. The Biden's economy baffles me. The inflation wasn't as bad as the 1970 and didn't suck nearly as bad as the first four years of Reagan. I mean, Jesus, 4.1 unemployment, 3 percent inflation, 3.2 growth in income, and the debt as a percentage of GDP was still under Trump despite the Trump tax cuts. When I got out of college in 1982, I would have loved to have had the economy.
I have always liked Ron. And I don't have anything wrong with what he is saying except this is for his 11th presidential election - kind of used to the way things WERE. I understand that if we were dealing with 2008 or prior rules... something like 62% didn't feel like things were on the right track... you would be able to match things up. And we might still be able to to a degree... but the question is WHY DID PEOPLE THINK EVERYTHING WAS BAD AND GETTING WORSE? Without social media, pod casts, lies, and the general circus that was put on by the trump campaign.... the same amount of people wouldn't have believed that.
I guess we can't ignore what I saw on the weekend before the Election - a constant barrage of Lying Ads during my football games - I was so damn angry but the billionaires were exercising their POWER.
Pepsi or Coke dilemma this time was solved by choosing Coke. Except some Americans didn’t know, or didn’t care that Coke was actually cocaine. Oh, well, now we’re all to witness a one deranged party for 4 years!
What Tim is saying from 18:28 onward is that the people were too dumb and uninformed - but he doesn't want to use those words so he says it was a "cultural disconnect".
I'm 80, this is something we've never seen before! However, our forefathers, grandparents, and parents saw things they could never have imagined. My dad fought in World war2, they relied on their leaders to get them through. We, are going to figure this out, just as George Washington, Abraham Lincolv, Roosevelt, John Kennedy to name a few. We just need to resist, stay focused, just like our forefathers did and hopefully great leaders will rise!
The cultural issues are questionable. It is people spending more time fussing with judging others who need to be like 'me' vs. Freedom to choose for themselves. Religious arrogance is the cultural points. They sit in their running cars, playing on their phones, and have to have every party in the household with the new bells and whistles. People didn't show up because the DNC demonstrated that they were disorganized and weren't going to support their primary person. Why bothwr was the question. It is about greed. I would rather have less and know that the world is a better place. Everyone wants more but gives less.
Dems need to not take the bait on culture war crap, but they need to address the lies being chucked at them. Kamala did a grave disservice by not addressing the football ad. Literally everyone I had convinced to vote for Kamala (even tho they hated Biden but were sick of trump) turned to Trump over that. I couldn’t get them to believe it was an old fed law. That 1 person got it etc. the silence was deafening.
Trump ran on not taxing on tips, on getting rid of Federal income tax or greatly reducing it. That’s 12-24% Federal tax on the income most middle class voters plus their state taxes and maybe city taxes (unless they live in the states without income tax).
I guess those women voters who voted for Trump will find out about how good Biden’s economy really was. A little late but they will pay dearly and so will everyone else 😢
Also, it wasn't all economy, it was that Kamala was a woman and a brown women at that, so racism and misogynistic views played a larger part than people (men) think. Many young men are listening to misgynistic guys podcasts, unfortunately. I thing Latin men have a problem with female black leader also.
Well, I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but, after seeing a video with a Military Officer in Cybersecurity and him showing some strange manipulation of how votes flipped after a certain rate, it’s hard to explain, but it was both scary and informative, based on the “russian tail”, voting manipulations. Something to check out and be investigated, for future election security. Hearing these statistics today, makes me even more leery of this election, with the involvement of Elon Musk and all the lies and vulgar language, crazy rhetoric, 77 million people bought into this BS, I highly doubt it. This guy needs to show is his numbers, the Military Officer showed charts and where Harris’ votes would suddenly stop and the rest would be trump votes. I’m editing this comment, because I forgot to add that this was in all the swing states, very important! “Election Truth Alliance”
Pro choice voters that voted trump did so because their state had codified Roe. Thus they were not ‘personally’ worried about it and thank you gop for rugged individualism and telling Americans to only think about them selves
Pity Americans didn't know about the economy in other parts of the World. Then they might have appreciated what had been achieved by the Biden administration. Just saying because my country is in a recession.
Excellent info. Data on pro choice for Trump surprising, prominent in AZ. Race may be a factor in AZ. Add the resentment from men being told what to do by a woman.
Ignoring climate change renders _everything_ else irrelevant. It’s like sitting down at the dining room table and discussing the kids’ education, Donald Trump, Roe v Wade, the dog’s ear infection, Russia and Ukraine, booking a cruise, the neighborhood gossip, needed car repairs, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,…while your house is being consumed by a raging inferno. Ask anyone who barely escaped the LA fire what they were talking about as they fled through the flames. Probably not the price of eggs.
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It happens frequently. A man, a younger man, driving a $70,000 gas-guzzling pickup truck complaining about how bad the economy is. The biggest selling vehicles in the USA are Ford F-Series, Chevrolet Silverado and RAM 1500. Their reality and perception are mind-bending.
And I live in a small town that has a ton of these trucks driven mostly by men. They and the vehicles are very loud, and the drivers act as if they own the roads. I also perceive they do not have one iota of respect for women in general.
Trump will slow that down with the economy being so bad, nobody will be spending money on much.
yep, I have co-workers and friends of friends who live in nice neighborhoods with big lifted trucks, and they complain about eggs and gas when gas prices have been dropping around here
@@elizabethfarkas6468 What is a women, really, Elizabeth? When a Trans MAN was declared Woman of the Year by LEFTIST Media, did you march in the streets?
Have you priced an EV and the maintenance on an EV. They are only for FAT FINGER RICH LIBERALS who work for Gov.Biz writing bad insurance policies and taxing our paychecks.
It blows me away that people were so dissatisfied with President Biden and they thought trump would be better.
Come on folks get real.
Yeah, but those egg prices! Wait until one of those 2-1 breaking Pro-choice Trump-voting women can't get emergency repro care when they desperately need it. Sad, disheartening that is level of discernment.
I'm pretty sure it all comes down to social media, between the Russians, Chinese, Musk, and now Facebook along with Fox it's a wonder people get any true information. We needed to take what happened in 2016 much more seriously and not allowed MAGA to normalize their narrative full of complete falsehoods. They have killed the first amendment, I have always understood people's right to burn flags, dress up and 'reenact' certain sides, etc etc. This is different though, free speech doesn't mean someone should be allowed to convince people that a cabal is using space lasers to burn forrests with the help of their minions in government who spread dead leaves around as kindling. MAGA is a disgrace and we've allowed them to define their own reality.
I think history will be kind to Biden, he has and is accomplishing a lot. Most effects won't be felt for awhile though and we have short memories.
But getting real, he should never had run a second time to begin with. I can't be the only one to think of him as an interim president, between Trump that HAD to go, and the next logical democrat. I don't know who that would have been, probably not Kamala. The electorate just isn't that deep. After the debate Biden had no chance and he was on shaky ground to begin with and people believe Trump will make things better for them. No, I can't explain it but con artists do in fact get away with shit.
@@eleanormenz7169 they're unserious. That's a Tom Nichols description
I cannot wrap my mind around it. Or that money means more than decency.
I’m a Canadian white woman, I can’t imagine ever voting for a guy like trump , the thought is disgraceful.
Character matters
Me too!🍁How could these women vote for him? Did they really think he is going to freakin protect them .. and help the middle class to great them more money in their pockets! Fools!🤢
@@caroleboots7591
You’re Canadian , I can’t imagine living in a country where people get prosecuted for speaking unpopular views .
@Droppingknowledge1234you need to stop believing what you hear from Joe Rogan and research things for yourself. That’s not happening here in Canada. The bill you’re under the impression exists doesn’t as you think it does. Do your own research and critically think and stop being a sheep.
@Droppingknowledge1234 Please send an example of a Canadian getting prosecuted for speaking unpopular views, if that's what you are talking about. And what is that unpopular view? I've spoken many unpopular views and have never even received a letter in the mail warning me to shut up. Popular also depends on the side you are on.
@ yeah, this person is a mindless Joe Rogan fan why doesn’t verify when an influencer is correct or not. If this person was right, half of the population of Canada would be in jail right now lol. We wouldn’t have a single Canadian podcaster left on the internet if he was right.
My heart breaks when I hear how the USA complain about the economy. I live in South Africa and you should look at the rest of the world economy and thank President Biden.
Every day trump told his crowds the economy was horrible.
To nearly all Republicans, the lack of education and the rejection of facts are epidemic.
They point themselves to their own fear and hold on for dear life.
That fear in 2024, the cost of eggs. Pathetic right?!
We have brought stupid to a fine art.
Our premiere idiot will be taking office on Monday.
@@LiberalinOregon
and every day trumps worshippers had the ability to look into those false claims.
Instead they took their blissful ignorance, enhanced by the fear of the cost of eggs, to the polls with them.
Geezuschristmas.
@@LiberalinOregonhe also told us what a garbage country we are. I don't know how they voted for someone who wouldn't care if we were all just wiped out tomorrow. He straight up would not care.
Thank you for pointing out the truth ! Trump may have trashed Biden’s economy but magas refused to see the truth !
As a "nice" guy have you ever tried to help a woman get out of an abusive relationship? Trump vs. America is somewhat analogous in my mind.
YES!!! Similarly, as when children who seek to protect their abusers lie to social workers, teachers and police. Identity politics and self-destructive alliances (self-hate) may correlate. 😢
Good point! Only it's his sycophants who also serve as his codependents.
Nah as someone (not a woman to be fair) who grew up in an abusive household and voted for Harris, voting a secret ballot against a fascist is a million times easier than cutting off abusers, especially if they are bankrolling your life and you've had bad experiences with the systems that are supposed to hold said abusers accountable.
Trump has revolted me since he came to power. Tragic for America, a democracy? Why do people think trump cares one ioata for the cares of the average American? Trump does not care one bit for anyone that does not agree for his politics or POWER. trump wants to stay out of jail and stay in power to protect himself, always the most motivating factor in his quest for power, to stay out out of jail and promote his agendas that DO NOTBENEFIT the average American citizen, trumps politics protect and benefit trump. Wake up people.
Only it not. In those situations the abused has a relationship with this person. They may share a home, a child, a job. trump has no relationship on a personal level with these ppl. America was lambasted with lies, more lies, and then more lies. Trump had an evilness in the country to point to, illegal aliens. That’s why trump did not want the House to pass the border bill.
Four years of pathological lies will be brutal. If his lips are moving he's lying
I'm not sure he will last the entire time.
All of his siblings are dead, btw. He's the oldest Trump left.
If he's asleep, he's lying...
@@track1949that's fine...we got vance
its 9 years of patholigical lying so far, with 4 to go. lucky lucky 13 :/
Don't forget projection. That's an important one. Remember when he said how ruthless the billionaires supporting Harris were? And we all yelled, "but they're not supporting Harris."
Well, now we know that was projection and people should have been taking what he was saying, knowing how he says it, more seriously.
The media also played a large part in normalizing him
Hang on one minute. Brownstein says Democrats need to avoid culture war issues. But that's exactly what they did this election. Trump made them into issues anyway. You may not be interested in culture war, but culture war is interested in you.
As a white woman, I am furious at my fellow women. It’s one thing for men to not care about women’s rights, it’s quite another when women vote against the well being of women.
Also…. Please please let’s not diminish that racism and misogyny played in this election. We must NOT keep ignoring this. I think this accounts for MANY of the non-voters… they didn’t want to vote for Trump, but also did not want to vote for a (black) woman.
It’s just not going to show up in the polls. Men (and women) are not going to say this out loud in polls, etc.
Agreed!
Well said!!
Spot on‼️
AMEN!
I agree. I took offense to posts saying women could not tell their husband who they were voting for.
This fills me with despair. Trump is a monster.
Trump has NO redeeming qualities. He is all evil.
He is that!! I cannot believe that the ignorant among us think he will he will do anything to help them!
You're right. It's as simple as that.
As are his sycophants
Blame Biden is the point.
I don't understand why any woman voted for Trump...it is beyond my comprehension.
Anyone with eyes G-d gave them saw through Kammi-Devi-Tim's Happy Hour of Power. Today Hollywood is burning in heII now, for what they almost succeeded in achieving.
It was crucial
Me either, me either. Actually I don’t understand how anyone with a basic understanding of government, democracy, history, economics, etc and a heart and 2 brain cells could vote for Trump and his cohort of millionaire/billionaire oligarchs.
My problem with this program is, that it’s just not taken into consideration that Trump never shut up the whole time Biden was in office. What happened was that Trump was out there as many times as he could to gain attention for himself and to knock Biden down no other president has done that to another president that’s just unforgivable and horrible, but it’s our reality and it’s a ugly one.
LEFTWING Media has been committing INSURRECTION 24/7 since Biden was deposed by Kamala-Devi-Tim and her Fast $$$ Hollywood Elites. _"I ain't be gettin no milli'in!"_ 0prah
This!! 💯👏🏾👏🏾 I wonder what if Kamala really wants to be the nominee for 2028, if she’ll go quietly or actually be out and visible. That’s what the Dems need to do.
@@JasmineJoseph-x6c -- I don't think the Democrats will nominate another woman for a while.
The media is to be blamed. They should've ignored him, but they care about ratings over everything.
@@bucklaughlin906don’t underestimate the democrats ability to put up an unelectable candidate
Monday will be the proverbial Cold Day in Hell that I've always heard about.
So cold that they're moving the inauguration indoors.
The story behind why they are moving it inside has to do with the predicted cold weather. 🤣
Nothing what so ever about crowd size. 😅
@@track1949 Sure it is. They're worried about having a small crowd. So funny.
Ofcourse it's about crowd size!!! Everything the FOTUS does is performance art!!! This is the coronation!!! FDJT
It is fucking cold here in DC. So, Trump knows that will keep people away, so of course he has to do it indoors.
People voted against Democrats because they were unhappy about the economy. But, they are better off today than they were 4 years ago when they were in the middle of a pandemic and in a recession. Explain that to me.
Short term memory.
Amnesia
We have one of the best economies in the world
No they didn't the number of votes Dems *lost* is noticeable larger than the number of votes Trump gained.
There is and was a 24/7 screed of examples of a bad economy from NEWSCorp, Twitter (x), and 465 talk radio mics over the past four years of the Biden Administration. Did you ever hear anything positive about Joe Biden on FOX or any other right wing outlets? 🎉
Here’s an example - I have worked for the same company for 4 years. During that time they were purchased by another company. All the top people get paid well. Me? I’ve gotten 1 raise in 4 years for 3.00 an hour despite doing outstanding work. I didn’t even get a bonus at Christmas. Yet all my expenses have gone up. I’m not happy. I voted for Harris because I know Biden did try to make things better for the middle class but something has to change that stops price gouging and rewarding the top and letting the workers suffer.
Our whole office got fired at Xmas and our 'work unit' offshored to In'dia. So be happy you still have a job. Harris was 100% on board with flooding H1-Bs and ln'dia offshoring yours. She's *IN'DIAN* JAMAICAN. The Kammi-Devi-Tim 'Black' schtick was for the vote parody.
14 billionaires in the new cabinet will not be helping you
Ignorance and misinformation won!
And Elon’s money, $270 million
yay
And his hatred has spread around the world 🇨🇦
@anne ☝️ THIS!☝️
EXACTLY
People have short memories, when the Orange Man was president in 2019-2020 a 1000 people a day were dying of Covid , millions of people lost their jobs and T Rump added 7 trillion to the national debt. The country was suffering and they think that was better than 4 years of Biden bringing the US back from the brink. I still can’t figure out why people would vote for T Rump 🇺🇸💙🦅🇺🇸💙
The people that voted for him don't understand that even without the pandemic, he was leading the country over a cliff.
@@cherylsmith3002FOX is the media opium of the right. These people watch nothing else for their news. Hence they get a very carefully curated and massively dishonest view of Trump and how bad he is. That’s a fact. FOX has been proven to lie as a matter of daily strategy.
I agree! Unfortunately,this country isn’t ready for a female president! But I also think Biden’s unwillingness to let Harris to distance herself form him hurt her.
They are as stupid as Trump? As selfish as Trunp? 😱😱
Im from Europe and this is truly baffling to me and a majority of Europeans..the lying, racism, fearmongering, conspiracy theories and pure incompetence among GOP is mind boggling.how people can even think "yeah im voting for this" is very hard to understand tbh..here in Europe we ADMIRED America and Americans, we allways "looked up" to America, but now people are confused, unsure what to think..its just so SHOCKING and bizarre whats happening, its just UNBELIVABLE, insane..Republican party is a CULT now, cult of personality, they lost touch with reality, cant reason with them anymore, truth doesnt matter, facts doesnt matter, logic and common sense doesnt matter, evil is good and good is evil..
When it's all said and done VP HARRIS did and said exactly what she was supposed to say. I'm sick of people finding reasons to blame her for other things. They didn't want a black woman for President period. Democrats need to ask themselves they didn't talk to their constituents
Harris was not a good candidate. If she were, she could have brought on more working class and Independent voters.
America just can't admit they have a race problem until maybe 50 or 60 or 70 years later when they finally have to in history books. When not censored.
Or even a woman!
I think this accounts for many of the ‘non-voters’. They didn’t want to vote for Trump, but they also didn’t want to vote for a black woman. This isn’t going to show up in polls, etc. because most people won’t say out loud that was their reason.
We MUST not leave this out of these discussions and postmortems of the election.
I feel the same the message was strong and clear.... No one ever considered that this time the election was really stollen! Why in hell would trump tell his followers that they did not have to vote? That he had all the votes he needed! Why did Elon Musk tell attorney general Ken Paxton that He was the reason that trump won all the battleground states he said to him I did that! And no one question that? America did not vote for this man I assure you! Our own Data Scientist have been writing letters and blowing horns to let everyone know that! the data shows that the election was indeed altered and had many anomalies and all we have to do is look at the grafts that are public records and you will see it! It's called the Russian tail! Trump and Elon did the unthinkable and we ignored it!
Very enlightening. The point I haven't heard is my belief (as a Harris voter) that a substantial group of people, men in particular, in the swing states couldn't force themselves to vote for a black woman.
Believe what you want. I think it's a simplistic theory.
@@unme4728seriously?? How many men have aligned with trump? Way too many. These men must not care about the women in their lives, mothers, sisters, friends, relatives. Women need to become more involved, and become an EQUAL voice in protecting democracy, otherwise trump, will railroad the American people into a terrible weakening of democracy. trump is 1000% about promoting what keeps him out of jail, and works to trumps OWN self interests. Wake up people, before it is too late to protect the democracy the United States has fought for and worked so hard to preserve.
Victor Martinez, who owns Allentown PA's Hispanic radio station LA Mega, fielded many calls from Latin men that said the couldn't vote for a woman.
He said that he believes that a female presidential candidate will continue to struggle among this demographic because of ingrained cultural bias.
The men are the boss and the woman belongs in the kitchen, is the mentality.
But tell me how President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico, a woman, was elected.
Is there a difference between Puerto Rican men and Mexican men? 🤔
👍
To my slight surprise, among Asian Americans immigrants and other immigrant populations in Brooklyn, distrust of or misogyny for women, and racist beliefs could not bring them to vote for a black Asian woman.
Because he lied to them, he told them that he gave back to the State. He removed himself from the picture. And only stupid women fell for it and those women that voted for him, they are stupid.
He did... and there have been referendums in "red states" that have voted for abortion AND voted for trump as pres.
Something like women’s rights (abortions) need to approved at the federal level. Too many states will deny abortions.
his entire campaign was one lie after another
mixed in with insane conspiracy theories
They believed Trump! It was stupidly more than anything else.
They used that as an excuse to vote for the candidate they wanted.
I have to leave so can't watch this whole episode right now. but as an 83 year old white woman I think that white women as a whole screwed themselves, and every other woman. There is no way Kamala shouldn't have done better. Black women held up the bargain. I realize that good health care is evidently not a winning proposition but the shear fact that rump is such a degraded human being should have been a factor. We have what they deserve.
As a white woman, I reject that stupid poll. White women voting against their own rights? Cuz of eggs?
Perfectly said!
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on.
See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
I've been a straight, white, male my entire life. Yeah, the amount of discrimination against me has been terrifying. Give me a joke! When I was a teenager, I got drunk and punched a cop right in the face; I got a ride home. A teenage neighbor of mine, who was black, got arrested for loitering in front of his house. I was arrested for drunk driving and possession of marijuana at the age of 20. My father told me that I was pleading "guilty" as I was guilty. I went to court and pled "guilty". The judge, who was also white, would not accept my plea and found me "not guilty". Whites whining about "discrimination" is just stupid. Whites have it so tough....WHAT A JOKE! Side note: I am now sober over 18 years and a lawyer.
In my neighborhood, my neighbor who is a very successful construction worker and black, and his wife also black was a doctor and were hassled by neighbors here in Marin County California for walking around the neighborhood. They ended up moving out because of this.
And you have seen this first hand .thank you for saying. Speaking up more often will be needed coming up. 😊😐✌😺💙💙💙💙✌✌😺
They were dissatisfied in the country because they were gaslit into believing that it was all a mess. It isn’t
Right!!! They believe his lies over the truth.
There's a Ted Talk given by Scott Galloway 8 months ago - watch it and tell me what you think afterwards.
And they will now find out
@@Redcrane05 I went and watched-voting for trump sure isn’t going to get you any of the fixes he proposed.
IMO-Scott Galloway has lots of interesting things to say. I do wish he wasn’t a SHEIN investor, touting their great business model. I lost a lot of respect for him after he shared that information. SHEIN steals artists’ IP, employs unethical business practices in their production, and is a giant polluter in the fashion industry. If he really cares about his kid(s), he ought to find a better company to invest in.
@@robynnordstrom7799 Dear lord, when did I say that clip supports voting for Trump?
Bit of a leap there, don't you think?
I voted against Trump, using Harris to do so - between the two I picked the least worst candidate.
But the idea that the lived conditions of our economic system are ABSOLUTE PERFECTION is cognitive bias at it's best, regardless of what a specific(incomplete) set of metrics say. What's minimum wage right now? How's housing affordability? What's the rate of medical bankruptcy in this country? Why do we pay significantly more for our medical treatment and have lower positive outcomes? The system *is a mess*.
So I find the gaslighting comment in this case *deep* hypocrisy - and in my opinion how Trump got back in office, by telling the American people everything was perfection, when they new it wasn't, the anti-Trump contingent stayed home.
Since you are making virtue purity assessments, what's your take on Nancy Pelosi's investment activities?
for as long as I live, I will never ever understand this 🤦🏻♀️
Join the club
Read the comments on this thread about a woman and abusive relationship.
With those voters you have to ask yourself is it safe to go outside, if you do act as if you’re in a zoo, on the wrong side of the cage😢
To me, all these theories about why people voted for Trump are excruciating to listen to. They ignore the gigantic illogical elephant in the room, and missing the bigger problem. Look at it like this.. In an ideal world, you would want the best person possible as President. If you were to rank every single US citizen by their suitability for the Office, I don't know who would be number 1. But I do know who's name would be dead last. It's easy to argue this on any metric.
Even a child would understand why Trump should never be let anywhere near any position of power. Yet half the electorate fail to make this simple observation. WHY??
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on.
See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
19:38 not all Trump supporters are racists, but all racists are Trump supporters.
Eh my parents are somewhat racist and both voted Harris.
That's exactly why the AfD in Germany is a Nazi-party: if all the Nazis are in your party, it doesn't matter that there are also non-Nazis in your party. Your party is the Nazi party now.
@@kenlandon6130 I like to think about that in terms of talk, decisions and actions. Actions and decisions are much more consequential than talk. We shouldn't be purists regarding talk (even if strictly non-racist talk would be desirable, if such a thing truly existed), but we should demand strictly anti-racist actions.
@@kenlandon6130 really? OK, thanks for the hopium.
Nah, he's trolling you.
How can democracy win when we are faced with willful ignorance?
& shit loads of lies 24/7.
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on.
See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
Maybe you are the ignorant one?
How incredibly depressing as I listened to this. When women voted for the price of eggs over pro choice is unacceptable! They would put a crook in the White House over inflation. I’m a 77 year old college educated white woman and this makes me furious! T should not be responsible for running a McDonalds!
I'm with you, 77, white, college educated woman. My head feels like it could burst. 🤬 So angry.
Plump would fail at that as well, eating the profits..
I 100% reject the poll discussing how woman voted against their own right cuz of the price of eggs.
When have polls, either pre or post election, ever been right.
WE know that black men, latinoX men and all the maga meatheads voted him in.
Anyone want to bet that Trump pushes for a national abortion ban?
all about eggs .. in one form or another ...
Regarding the Pro Choice Women Trump Voters. WTF ladies.
Looking out for their man and their sons. We still do that,we worry about others more than we do ourselves.
@@marblackCanada
I worried about other women.
@AM-fs1je They asked the questions, and I gave an explanation that I had, but if i heard. I couldn't vote. No Canadians allowed. I would have voted for a goast over Yoggie 🐻 steeling everyone's picnic 🧺 Good luck to everyone.
C’mon, guys: this was election about hate and hate won. Period.
Exactly!
feelings
Exactly 💯 %! Thank you.
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on.
See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
I blame the legacy news that over critiqued Biden Harris's while giving Trump a pat on the back.Thats how she lost,all that batty news coverage'.
Always comes down to money. Those in the top 25% never think they have enough and those in the bottom 25% can barely make ends meet and are willing to take a chance on rhetoric
If women who "claimed" to be pro-choice SAID they voted for trump after Dobbs... they were lying, they're clearly NOT pro-choice 🙄
Yep!
In Michigan, they had already passed an abortion constitutional amendment. As far as the average Michigander was concerned, abortion rights had been addressed. Sending a zillion e-mails about abortion and asking for money indicated to me that the dems just didn't know how to run a campaign.
Abortion is legal in every state. So, many pro choice women voted Trump because he has no power to ban abortion in their states.
Or they were not single issue voters.
@@Lerian_V Abortion is NOT legal in every state. Almost half of the states in the country have an abortion ban.
Not one word of all the lies that people were bombarded with which played a huge impact.
Legacy media sane washed the lies ! This country is brainwashed into stupidity !
That’s a given. Exit polls can’t quantify willful ignorance.
Yep, Fox lied for him too. They must go down!! Class action lawsuits!
Or the desire for instant gratification with wanting the newest fangled toy or prop. There is no sense of striving and sacrifice for a goal
The reason why Trump won: his successful 1st term, economy, no wars, no border invasion & so on. Then contrast that with the biden-harris regime: gas food prices, 12+ million illegal migrants, wars, mutilating kids & so on.
See, its as simple as that, no race hustling, name-calling, patriarchy, etc.
Women in states where abortion is legal don’t see their rights as at risk . They don’t believe they will do a federal ban because “he’s pro states rights”. I know women in WA who say this.
I agree. They’re incredibly short sighted, or perhaps completely blind.
YES, they never believe it will happen to them.
Love Ron Brownstein! I’m always smarter after listening/reading. Please have him on more!
The affordable housing crisis is huge but a lot of that can be blamed on private equity firms, then groceries high due to corporate greed. Where did these horrible people come from? I tend to blame in on the 1980’s.
Reagan.
The media made him "normal" Sanewashing by media. I know what I saw.
This was so damned depressing. Kind of in a rage coma right now. I was a little girl during the last years of the Vietnam War; locked out of the house during the Watergate hearings; thought there might be some accountability during Iran-Contra; heard the 2nd plane hit and whipped around in time to see the fireball and welcomed my husband home from 2 WFC; was disgusted at the bs Iraq war(s) - and even grossed out by military force against Afghanistan; took Roe v Wade for granted even though I was alive when it was passed; remembered my single mom fighting for her first credit card; was STILL hopeful enough to become a high school social studies teacher later in life; and now...I don't know what to tell my students about the idea of America vs the current reality. Was supposed to do some housecleaning today, but just don't feel like it.
On Monday, let's talk about MLK Jr. and literally ANYTHING else besides what's happening in DC.
Yes! Instead of watching the inauguration, watch MLK speeches and related history in order to honor him and get inspiration
Take some time to honor a Good Man in History ❤@@krazyoldkatlady192
Yep, its about the character of the person & not the skin color.
@ exactly!
@@lorrainethomas241 I'm watching both
You two are great together. Have Ron more often, please!
It is "low-information" to think the cause of inflation WAS NOT the pandemic. It was. Therefore, although it is "the economy, stupid." It is also the "stupid, stupid."
According to the NIH, as many as 200,000 died unnecessarily because of Trump's mismanagement of COVID. I think it it is fair to blame Trump for making something that could have been managed well into something that was leading to a recession. Biden prevented a recession.
Tim Miller: enjoying the Bulwark. Keep it up. I am also a converted from republican. Listening to your podcasts, keeps me sane and hoping we can get through this madness. Im retired military and I didn’t serve for this America.
Re: voters in 22 vs. 24. Yes, the stock market was up and inflation was down---but prices hadn't dropped to pre-inflation levels (of course, they never do). And even though Kamala (rightfully) stressed that our economy was the healthiest in the world, people didn't feel it.
Wall Street is not the real world
The Feminist movement is just too long ago. Women forget or never experienced what its like to be oppressed. They mistake the movement for telling women what to do vs. educating what their rights should be. Even the heads of the Feminist movement realized that they made some mistakes in telling women what to do and how to think/feel. This whole trad wife (traditional wife) movement seems to misunderstand as well. These gals GET TO CHOOSE!!! vs being forced into submission. Women these days are happy to vote away their own rights because they have no idea what exactly they are voting away. The right for another woman's choice.
Absolute truth. Like anti-vaxxers who have no idea what polio is so can "safely" ignore it, some young women seem to "safely" ignore their great fortune to be in a country that has given them equal rights.
Great info, Ron . Black woman who didnt go to school still voted for Harris
I don't think there's ever been a perfect presidency and this one is shaping up to be the worst 😕
People who knew what was real were not unhappy. People who believed that avalanche of lies were dissatisfied.
When it's said they are now checked out, it is called embarrassed regret. Head in the sand.
People worried about their economic stability but voted for the party that led us into economic disarray in 2017-2020. They hated the loss of Roe but voted for the man responsible for its demise. They worried about housing costs and loss of housing inventory, but voted against the party with concrete plans to make housing affordability happen. They worried about maintaining the fight against Russia in Ukraine, but voted fur the party hell bent on throwing Ukraine to the curb….I’m sorry, I can’t even say what I think about their idiocy anymore because U’ll be banned from TH-cam. I love humanity m, it’s people I can’t stand.
As a fan of Ron Brownstein, L.A. resident and someone who knew Arlo Guthrie as a kid in Massachusetts, I especially enjoyed this episode.
You are not including two basic issues in your discussion, the number of eligible voters who did not vote and the ever present racism especially towards a black woman.
🤔 in the coming days, I wonder how many folks will have that “a-ha” moment and realize that Biden wasn’t so bad! 🤦🏾♀️🙏🏽🙏🏽
About 77 million.
They will see on day 1. I’m a black woman and just a heated discussion with my church going MAGA son! He hates Harris and Biden! He told me I need to find Jesus and go to church and get saved! I’m like WTF!!! I’m stuck with his ass for the weekend!
All this also ignores that Harris spent exactly ZERO time talking about trans issues. It was ALL REPUBLICAN ADS. Not only did Dems NOT "lean into" fringe issues - they RAN away from them!
I see it more as the Right used Trans and made it into an issue, blew it up, and media repeated it for clicks. For Dems, trans and kids getting sex changed at school is Not an issue.
Thank you for sharing the truth and facts about what is going on.
Realltenjoy when you have Ron on the show. We learn so much.
6:47 "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
- Winston Churchill
Here us 2 more far left loons that just can’t figure out why they, and their party, was thrown out of office. I hope they never change. The Republicans will be in power forever!
What he's saying about voters against Harris because of the economy. Proves what I've said for decades. That is that most Americans have no idea how economics actually works. Especially what can be done about inflation. Presidents don't have magic wands to lower prices.
Turmp said he would.
It is hard to listen about which people voted for Trump over Harris. There is no accounting for it. Even with focus groups we can't know what people are thinking. It's not the economy. The economy is great. Prices are too high. That is not the economy. People keep buying. Why would anyone think Trump would bring prices down?
He's now saying that bringing down prices is hard. "Who knew healthcare was so complicated."
How about we hash out how much inflation was corporate greed?
CALI should sescede and join Canada and bring Oregon & Washington State along for the very fun ride!
As an Oregonian who used to be a proud American, I never thought this would sound so tempting but we'll see if Canada goes Trump-lite.
If they think they are dissatisfied now, wait until Jan 21st.
Fafo time
In the past the President would have had a fireside chat that was on national TV, which had very few competitors at the time. The President could have explained the economy in a way that people understood. Today we have such fragmented and politicized media that would have diluted and marginalized any similar messages we could have communicated today.
Thanks for saying the stuff that's hard to hear and actually downright depressing. I don't want to live in an information silo. We can't fix something if we don't know or accept that it's broken.
I think the guiding principle of America is this: Anything is permissible, so long as you get your money, or think that you’re going to get your money.
The role of the media and social media specifically should not be minimized Trumpism was hardly challenged but was presented as a valid alternative…
I agree with your assessment, the corporate media and the republican party really are the reason we are in this mess.
Thanks, guys! This is exactly the video I've been needing to see since the WTF-brain-melt of November.
I think that a big part of the problem is that it's just been too long since the Cold War. People just seem not to be afraid of authoritarian governments anymore.
And as far as the discussion about the voters in Springfield, I've lived in Ohio foe just over 4 years, so shortly before the 2020 election. And what I've seen from people I've met here is the most important thing to them, no matter the issues, is that the candidate has an R after his name.
Don't forget the fact that he had ninety two felony counts against him, and at the time he was a convicted felon, and he still won
I think you're wrong. He has a hundred twenty and seventy four, all of them dismissed.
How can people who care about the economy vote for Trump when he was talking about 25% tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. The amount of goods the US gets from all 3 countries is huge.
Nobody was paying attention to the tariff lesson in Ferris Bueller's Day Off (taught by a real-life right-wing pro-Trump economist btw) sadly.
They dont know what tarriffs are, either.
We should stop saying people were unhappy with the economy, the economy is fine, best in the world, what they're unhappy with is their lot in life, as they scroll hours a day through people flaunting their wealth on social media. The housing crisis isn't helping, of course, but that's more a Blue State issue, but people ironically voted for a billionaire, backed by billionaires because they're mad they aren't millionaires like all those people smiling in their feeds.
No one at an exit poll are going to say “a president should be a white man”.
Google Bradley Effect
Trouble with focus groups is that people are usually reluctant to openly admit they are racist
Cost of living keeps goin up and wages don't keep pace. It really does boil down to this. People down in my tax bracket all agree on this being the issue. We disagree on who's gonna do something about it and who's causing/enabling it. They just wanna divide us so we don't force the issue.
Yes, this, exactly-so as we struggle financially, all other issues seem frivolous (it makes me sad to say that).
@catherineconner9968 it's the topic I use to bridge the divide with those in my life who aren't maga super soldiers but have been fed enough nonesense to think maybe hes not the worst option. It gets pretty hard for them to think that Trump is on our side after pointing out all 12 or so billionaires in trumps cabinet or the richest man in the world attached to him at the hip. Also pointing out the net worth increase of all of those billionaires after the election helps too haha
So an anti price-gouging bill would have been good.
Butthurt over inflation. I mean, compared to orther first-world nations we really did OK. But half of all bread eaters score below average on standardized IQ tests, and here we are.
I grew up in the Palisade in the ‘50’s and ‘60 and worked in the music industry in the ‘70’s living in multiple neighborhoods in LA. It was a great place to be then. I am so sad for my friends there now, in light of the devastating fires. I visited my old home town in Dec 2023. So glad I did, as it will be a long time coming for its return.
They voted against their own interests. But elections have consequences. It’s amazing how many people in the entertainment and news industries including independent media live in California
Why is that amazing? The movie, then tv, business has been there for more than a century.
As a californian for 30+ yrs, the CA fires are obviously the result of the incompetence & willful ignorance of our democratic leadership.
Tim, great interview! He nailed it. Most of the cultural stuff is a dialectic the Republicans dream up and not what most Democrats care about. Up in Canada, the far-right conservatives there went after Trudeau because of his government-sponsored research about crickets as food which was probably basic research and not an objective of Trudeau's government. If you fabricate stuff you can go far.
The Biden's economy baffles me. The inflation wasn't as bad as the 1970 and didn't suck nearly as bad as the first four years of Reagan. I mean, Jesus, 4.1 unemployment, 3 percent inflation, 3.2 growth in income, and the debt as a percentage of GDP was still under Trump despite the Trump tax cuts. When I got out of college in 1982, I would have loved to have had the economy.
I have always liked Ron. And I don't have anything wrong with what he is saying except this is for his 11th presidential election - kind of used to the way things WERE. I understand that if we were dealing with 2008 or prior rules... something like 62% didn't feel like things were on the right track... you would be able to match things up. And we might still be able to to a degree... but the question is WHY DID PEOPLE THINK EVERYTHING WAS BAD AND GETTING WORSE? Without social media, pod casts, lies, and the general circus that was put on by the trump campaign.... the same amount of people wouldn't have believed that.
So it was "I don't care about the state controlling women's eggs, cos' I want cheaper eggs" . WTF!
I guess we can't ignore what I saw on the weekend before the Election - a constant barrage of Lying Ads during my football games - I was so damn angry but the billionaires were exercising their POWER.
Pepsi or Coke dilemma this time was solved by choosing Coke. Except some Americans didn’t know, or didn’t care that Coke was actually cocaine.
Oh, well, now we’re all to witness a one deranged party for 4 years!
What Tim is saying from 18:28 onward is that the people were too dumb and uninformed - but he doesn't want to use those words so he says it was a "cultural disconnect".
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
A would've voted for a rock before I'd vote for trump!
Me too!
Same here.
I'm 80, this is something we've never seen before! However, our forefathers, grandparents, and parents saw things they could never have imagined. My dad fought in World war2, they relied on their leaders to get them through. We, are going to figure this out, just as George Washington, Abraham Lincolv, Roosevelt, John Kennedy to name a few. We just need to resist, stay focused, just like our forefathers did and hopefully great leaders will rise!
The cultural issues are questionable. It is people spending more time fussing with judging others who need to be like 'me' vs. Freedom to choose for themselves. Religious arrogance is the cultural points. They sit in their running cars, playing on their phones, and have to have every party in the household with the new bells and whistles. People didn't show up because the DNC demonstrated that they were disorganized and weren't going to support their primary person. Why bothwr was the question. It is about greed. I would rather have less and know that the world is a better place. Everyone wants more but gives less.
Dems need to not take the bait on culture war crap, but they need to address the lies being chucked at them.
Kamala did a grave disservice by not addressing the football ad. Literally everyone I had convinced to vote for Kamala (even tho they hated Biden but were sick of trump) turned to Trump over that. I couldn’t get them to believe it was an old fed law. That 1 person got it etc. the silence was deafening.
Are there any specifics why or what people mean by "more money in their pockets with Trump"? That's hard to believe.
Trump ran on not taxing on tips, on getting rid of Federal income tax or greatly reducing it. That’s 12-24% Federal tax on the income most middle class voters plus their state taxes and maybe city taxes (unless they live in the states without income tax).
I guess those women voters who voted for Trump will find out about how good Biden’s economy really was. A little late but they will pay dearly and so will everyone else 😢
Also, it wasn't all economy, it was that Kamala was a woman and a brown women at that, so racism and misogynistic views played a larger part than people (men) think. Many young men are listening to misgynistic guys podcasts, unfortunately. I thing Latin men have a problem with female black leader also.
Well, I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but, after seeing a video with a Military Officer in Cybersecurity and him showing some strange manipulation of how votes flipped after a certain rate, it’s hard to explain, but it was both scary and informative, based on the “russian tail”, voting manipulations. Something to check out and be investigated, for future election security.
Hearing these statistics today, makes me even more leery of this election, with the involvement of Elon Musk and all the lies and vulgar language, crazy rhetoric, 77 million people bought into this BS, I highly doubt it. This guy needs to show is his numbers, the Military Officer showed charts and where Harris’ votes would suddenly stop and the rest would be trump votes.
I’m editing this comment, because I forgot to add that this was in all the swing states, very important!
“Election Truth Alliance”
Will you please address the released...Dissention Opinion on Presidential Immunity by Justice Sotomayor.....Please
Pro choice voters that voted trump did so because their state had codified Roe. Thus they were not ‘personally’ worried about it and thank you gop for rugged individualism and telling Americans to only think about them selves
Right on about culture wars. Voters don't want to hear about gay and trans folks. Not because its not important, but simply because its not THEM.
In other words, selfishness.
It was still a majority of men who voted for Trump and a minority of women. Let’s not lose the headline here.
Be more specific white women
@ Yes, you make a very good point
Pity Americans didn't know about the economy in other parts of the World. Then they might have appreciated what had been achieved by the Biden administration. Just saying because my country is in a recession.
They don't care about inflation in other places. It's "ME, ME, ME!!!"
They voted for him because they believe his lies, bravado, BS.
Self delusion then
Excellent info. Data on pro choice for Trump surprising, prominent in AZ. Race may be a factor in AZ. Add the resentment from men being told what to do by a woman.
Ignoring climate change renders _everything_ else irrelevant. It’s like sitting down at the dining room table and discussing the kids’ education, Donald Trump, Roe v Wade, the dog’s ear infection, Russia and Ukraine, booking a cruise, the neighborhood gossip, needed car repairs, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,…while your house is being consumed by a raging inferno. Ask anyone who barely escaped the LA fire what they were talking about as they fled through the flames. Probably not the price of eggs.
Basically what you’re saying is women sold their rights for the price of eggs how disgusting is that?
This comment has a very profound parallel.. The price of eggs over the rights of her own eggs.