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@@bryanmanuel4945 I don't even consider Season 8 canon. I'm even iffy about Season 7. And I'm not saying that as a whiny fan, I mean, it's as if my brain just doesn't identify it as canon. It's like bad fan fiction in which the characters are completely different. Tyrion is stupid. Varys is no longer sneaky. Dany is a homicidal maniac. John has no agency. And on and on. As far as my brain is concerned, we never received a canonical ending to Thrones.
@@PedroRPFerraz , I think you're exactly right and the problem extends beyond Hollywood. You see it in the world of work and politics, people rising to positions of power and status because they "know someone" or have the gift of the gab and can blag their to way to the top of a company or political party. Meanwhile, people of actual talent and capability get overlooked and disallowed opportunities to reach their full potential.
They aborted his arc in the books and refused to allow him to move past the zombie drone belief that Cersei was his truest love. The books are setting up him getting with Brienne and turning on Cersei (he already turned his back on her and spurned her), but because they dropped all of that beyond his interest in Brienne in the show they brilliantly decided that Jaime was just 'addicted' to her.
That actually seems so, but appears to me as a mistake in the Drinker's solutions here. Cersei would know Jamie will never execute that order to burn them all. He is Kingslayer for refusing that same act before, plus... she knows he got soft. No, Cersei should kill Jamie! Shock and horror! Who then kills Cersei I don't know. Bitchfight with the other queen? Nah, lame. Ooh, The Hound! He could bring that kill with casual brutality. Ya know chop her in half or something. Main point: no way would Cersei trust Jamie with that order.
@@tjeerdhoek2549 Arya should kill Cersei. Use the assassin training that she got from the previous 8 years of the show to take her revenge on the woman who murdered her father in front of her eyes and the reason she started her list.
I was waiting for that for years. That fortune thing, that her little brother was going to kill her, and Tyrion was way too obvious, so it had to be... a fucking building.
@@jewel8425 well, see what had Happened was…..she got hit in the head/ spine , neck by a beam and was suffering horribly and was in terrible agony under the rubble . So with his last deed , with the last ounce of strength he had left , Jamie suffocated Cersei in an act of love and mercy bringing the premonition to fruition . Tadaaaaaaaaaa
A couple small thoughts. Jamie should be set as John’s head of Kingsguard, acknowledging that he has the guts to take out a king who has overstepped and gone mad (or mad with power). Bring him full circle from Kingslayer as an insult to a title of honor. Second, early in the books, Dany keeps thinking about when they were running from Kings Landing and living at a house with a red door. She should return not to rule Essos, but retire to a peaceful home with a red door.
GoT s8 was awesome. Drinker's version is dumb. No way would Jon retreat if the Night King killed Arya. He'd attack no matter the odds. Drinker doesn't understand GoT. The GoT s8 haters are stupid.
Loved it all except for Arya’s ending. I like how the Hound helped deliver her from the bondage of hatred and her quest for revenge. I’d have found a way to keep that in. Then I’d have had her kill the Mountain, thereby returning the favor and saving the Hound from his. The Hound survives and chooses to serve John...as he finally has a noble ruler to follow. Arya survives and returns home to Winterfell to serve on Sansa’s Queen’s Guard.
For me, this is now canon. The drinker fixes in 12 minutes what Dumb and Dumber couldn't do in 3 years. Martin is never going to finish this saga so thank you so much you Scottish legend.
Canon for me is they all die both sides should have been too depleted to fight the night king effectively and any defeats are more troops for the night king yeah the living should have lost. Plus is kinda the ultimate subversion as the “good guys” are defeated because wouldn’t stop fighting.
Yeah like he said there was a million little sub plots he couldn’t get into but what he did come up with is miles better than anything the writers came up with. One sub plot I was super disappointed with was how they did my boy Little Finger. Like his final character arc didn’t even make sense they just gave him some random scheme, seemingly for no justification other than “because he’s the scheming character”, then he gets unceremoniously girl-bossed by the 2 stark sisters and executed with like no payoff. Super anticlimactic with how they’d built him up over the years
@@Justin-gv3lpIt was also pointed out previously that the real Little Finger would have gotten the fuck out of Winterfell the second Bran said " chaos is a ladder". But the plot needed him to stay so the writers stripper him of all his cunning and political genius. I mean he didn't even request a trial by combat. Pathetic writing.
Out of all The Drinkers videos, this is probably the best example of why in an ideal he should be in charge of allllll major film and TV productions coming out of Hollywood, no pressure...
The biggest mistake they made was making Cersei the final enemy. It made her seem like she was more dangerous than the night king, when the night king definitely was more dangerous . And they rushed the shit out of it.
I wouldn't say that making her the final enemy that they faced was a mistake. They could've had her seem like she was a lesser threat that they were going to deal with after the big bad or a knife waiting in the dark _if they weren't incompetent_ .
it was silly to make her seem more of a threat than the white walkers but they tried to do that in Episode 4 by miraculously killing off a dragon with a once in a lifetime shot then wrecking a good part of Danni's fleet. It made you think "hey, maybe Cersei is a big threat! Then Episode 5 her entire army is obliterated in less than 10 minutes
Inversely, Brienne of Tarth doing it, and bridging the gap between her and Jaime, as far as her constant talk of honor and devotion to her betters making it seem unthinkable
The Three-Eyed Raven being shown as a villain would also work. At least a hint that the conflict with the Night King wasn't good vs evil or well, nothing, really, because we still don't know why he wanted Bran dead. But ultimately a fight for power by 2 equally evil characters.
Love the video and love the drinker but it’s not a Herculean task. Dan and Dave fucked up every single choice they made in the last season. It’s like they scienced out how to make it shitty and unsatisfying and went with it. Making the ending better is a task my 10 year old niece could pull off. On a napkin. On her lunch break at school. And the amazing thing is how much were the writers paid for this bullshit? They literally made everything that came before it pointless and unwatchable. And until season 7 I fucking loved GOT. Bastards.
It would make sence if Danny completely destroyed kings landing first, killing her only opposition to power and making a huge statement, uniting the 7 kingdoms in fear. This would be a necessary evil to unite everyone in time to face the night king. Then she could have faced the dead army at the twins where their larger force would have been completely bottle necked and open to artillery fire. We could have also learnt about the night kings and his origins. Reading the other work by JRRR Martin, his 1000 worlds stuff, it would have a been a great twist to learn that the planet was once an advanced human colony that regressed to medival technology. With old tech now regarded as magic.
And so seemingly effortlessly. How some studio or media head hasn't put this this guy on retainer to write content is beyond me. Some eventually will. He's already a novelist. Im just surprised it hasnt happened already, his critiques and fixes are so dead on. I watched an old series from 2013 this past week called *_The Fall,_* about a serial killer and a female detective hunting him down. It was shot mostly in Dublin. I had never heard of it. If you havent seen it, with Gillian Anderson (even if her UK accent is a bit spotty in places) and Jamie Dornan as the charming killer, it was definitely above average for TV, I thuoght. Everyone in it was excellent and the writing was good. It surprised me.
You should have added the "valonqar prophecy" touch, by adding "choke her to death." Cersei was omened her doom by a woods seer Maggy the Frog. She asked if she'd marry the prince (Rhaegar Targaryen). "Never," Maggy replied. "You will wed a king." "But will I be queen?" "Oh yes," Maggy said. "You will be queen, for a time... Until there comes another, younger and more beautiful and cast you down and take all you hold dear." "Will the king and I have children? "The king will have twenty, you will have three." Maggy said. Cersei tried to interrupt, clearly confused. "Gold will be their crowns, and gold will be their shrouds," she continued before devolving into hysterical laughter. "And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life out of you." Valonqar means little brother in Valyrian. Cersei would believe it to be Tyrion, but it would really be her brother Jaime who was also born after.
I think the show runner didn't actually engage in the lore to notice this poetic detail which gives closure to Cersei. So G.R.R knew that they were beyond help.
I work at an assisted living facility for the elderly. During the hype of Game of Thrones we had a few residents who watched the show and even they were appalled by the way it ended. In remembrance to William Baker, he once told me "I fought in Vietnam and even that had a better resolution than Game of Thrones".
The ending of GOT was the greatest tragedy in modern television. How the showrunners could just give up and dump that phoned in crap on us will never be forgotten.
@@FQP-7024 The difference is the level of letdown. GoT was the best fantasy TV show of all time for a few seasons, and have fallen to that level where ST:D and ST:P was at the get go (tbf I consider the final GoT episode worse than any NuTrek so far).
@@SigmundJaehn They weren't, HBO wanted 3 more seasons, but Disney called and wanted another star wars trilogy which "thankfully" never happened... people won't forget their names now.
I was just imagining Cersei saying "burn them all" when she orders Jamie to ignite the wildfire which triggers his memory of the mad king. That would have been an incredible scene if it had happened.
Ohhhh I get it.... So what this means is she's JUST like the mad king now.... Wow..... Pretty corny line if you ask me hahah with got and tlou 2 everyone suddenly became a professional writer
I love GoT s8 and think what we got was infinitely better than that. Daenerys was fulfilling her father's final order when she decided to torch King's Landing, that was awesome, it was the Targaryen wheel coming full circle. I love TLOU2 as well. I'm baffled by people hating this amazing season and that amazing game and then having these lame ideas about them and slapping each other on the back for their new, completely rubbish, storylines.
The idea of Danni returning to esos is perfect because it fits with how she found herself there and everything was generally made better by her ruler and she was clearly happy but when she came to Westeros everything messed up so the story can have her realise this and basically realise where her true home is now
From the books I remember something along the lines of, when Dany thinks of home the image of a red door to a house in Essos (where she basically grew up after her family had to flee) pops into her mind. I'd love the idea of Dany defining where "home" is for her and liberating herself from the path her brother tried to force her on.
Remember when we used to recommend this show to everyone and their grandmother? Now that we are in a global pandemic and there is nothing to do besides sit and watch shows inside your home, no one is re-watching this show let alone recommend this to someone else. It’s like they really did kill it at the end.
Crazy, huh? It was the show everyone was talking about, the anticipation for a new season was insane. Then in the space of a single season it went from 100-0 and now no one cares at all. Its like it never existed.
50 years later Jon is a drooling vegetable that can only speak "shu's muh quon", much like Hodor, and only years later is it revealed what it actually means.
@@nickentros i think that's what annoys me the most about it. These idiots literally sat in a room and decided what can we do that no one will see coming? Umm yeah no one would see it coming because you've had seasons of setting shit up just to completely ignore it all 🤦♂️ it so frustrating as it could of been fantastic and now it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth even after all this time!
I appreciate how, over the years, Drinker's persona has come to be less like the angry drunk you happen to meet in a bar and more like the drunk uncle that likes to regale you with his ideas and is, beneath it all, just glad to have someone listen to him. "Go away now" feels less like a dismissal and more like a firm farewell at this point.
I come back to listen to it just about every half year. Just to pretend-make it really THIS rendition. This is one hell of a way to fi ish it, and I totally wish that HE had written the ending at this point in my life. He may he a drunk bastard, but he's goddamned good at writing as well! A man of many talents, indeed. A toast the most, Critical Drinker! My hat is now off to you good Sir. Be well on This most joyous of nights.
This franchise broke my heart. It was such a cool story but the show was completely ruined. There’s the hope of the books but I don’t see George being able to finish them before his time comes. In the show we will always have a great story that became trash, while in the books it certainly looks like we will never have a conclusive narrative.
@Vincent H. They didn't care one way or the other, they were in a hurry to go elsewhere for a new writing job. They'd even been offered more seasons of GoT but turned it down, apparently. Also, as the Drinker said, they'd run out of source material, so you're kinda right too, they didn't know what to do either and deserted the sinking ship.
The guy is loaded and HBO is going to make a pre-quil with their own writers. All he has to do is kick back and collect his paycheck, doubt he even gives a fuck.
The show had been foreshadowing a showdown between Jon and the Night King for 7 years. They even cast a sword fighter as the Night King, obviously in anticipation of a climatic final sword fight between he and Jon Snow. The fact that they didn't do this so that they could instead give us a woke Deus-Ex-Aria ending is an unforgiveable sin.
Imagine how much more impactful Game of Thrones could of been if the Night King won? The North falls, Jon is struck down by the Night King, and all the while there is no great army to take on the slow march of death. There is no resistance. The Game of Thrones is played one last time to decide who will sit on the Iron Throne when the Night King inevitably arrives to sack King's Landing. The last episode ending on the visual spectacle of the Night King sitting on the Iron Throne.
Yeah its so sad. I woulda liked it if bran took control of the white walkers and they have to use them to take kings landing as their armies are gone resulting in them having to destroy bran/new knight king after. Even that would ve better Edit: finished watching now basically what the drinker said. Great drunken minds think alike i guess
It’s not sad when professional fan fiction is more satisfying than the “real thing”…it’s sad that contemporary storytelling really makes that the case every time.
@@vandalcreed While that is true, season 8 made very basic mistakes that I believe could have been avoided, such as ending the threat of the White walkers with what was essentially a whimper after spending the previous seasons building them up. Having characters going completely against their established personalities and traits, especially with little to no forshadowing or in-universe reason is also a big no-no, and I believe that was at least part of the reason it fell apart so badly. And the characters going around doing nothing made me think of old martial arts movies, where the bad guys stand in line to get their butts kicked, and while I do understand why it's done it still looks stupid.
Season 8 of GoT and the Last Jedi are "shit the bed" bad. :D It's on par with bad fanfiction. It lacks any quality, and is transparently lazy and disrespectful, to the material and the fans.
Given that it took almost 8 seasons for the white walkers and wights to make it from North of The Wall to Winterfell,I can't imagine how many more seasons it would've taken for them to reach King's Landing
A lot of that consisted of the Night King gathering his strength. I see the undead army as a massive boulder teetering on the peak of a hilltop. It takes a long time for the boulder to gain enough momentum to finally tip over that hump at the top, but once it starts rolling, it picks up speed and turns into an unstoppable, rapidly moving force that will crush whatever is in its path. All that to say, it wouldn’t have taken them long to reach King’s Landing once their army was assembled and in motion.
@@Herpusderpus I imagine it would have been a much quicker process to get to King's landing as every town and city in their path would be turned into wights.
Realy not that long, not like they need rest or anything. They could be sprinting not stop towards Kings Landing just stopping right in front of it to enter formation (and some dramatic stare-down). If you need the time for character stuff in Kings Landing, let them be slowed down by some ancient swamp-magic-leftovers in the Neck between North and South
it's incredible how literally no one is talking about this show anymore not even die hard fans, so much for once having been the biggest and most revered series on television...
I speculate as to whether the show was some sort of psychological operation of some sort, based on the mass media promotion of it and the way it caught on with the public. Benioff's dad is Stephen Friedman, former Chairman of the New York Federal Reserve bank aka a member of the real world equivalent of the Iron Bank of Bravos.
I’d consider myself a die hard fan; I grew up reading the books. I even have a large Lannister tattoo on my torso. I rewatched the first six seasons a few times... I don’t talk about the show anymore.
"The show ends with thunderous silence as everyone desperately tries to understand what the f*ck they just saw" - That hits home perfectly, that's exactly what happened to me, my family, my friends, my neighbors and their dogs
@Kenny McCormick 1. If you are organized and willing to make sacrifice then even if it's a three weeks retreat, it's not impossible. In fact this kind of event can make a lotta characters shine bright and become memorable. Hell, a lot of plot holes could be plugged. 2. You need to redo a lotta scenes to connect Bran to the Night King, a whole mini series even but it'd still be a lot better than the show's resolution. 3. The way of the show then it really makes no sense for Dany to do that, but again, this is a whole new branch of reality so she could have actually grown up to be a better person. Drinker's fix is only as good as a drunken guy trying to make sense of smt as sh!tty as GoT SS8 so 2/10 score is reasonable. Still the show ending is definitely not 5/10, more like 0.5/10. Yes, it's harsh but that's because early seasons were so phenomenal.
@@brentreimer6411 Your missing a key and very important factor. That may possibly play a even more unique, instrumental, non-critical role and much more important to the story... UNCENSORED DICK!
All except the Danny gives up her claim bit. She should have died fighting the night king. Otherwise it just ignores her entire character. The whole burning down the city bit *could* have worked if they had just accepted the extra season they were offered. But frankly, the ending we got set a pretty low bar.
And what's funny here in my country they are selling all the seasons on blu ray at really low prices. You would think a very popular show like this would hold its value on blu ray and dvd. Ironic!!
They literally killed their own show with season 8. It's absolutely baffling how they screwed it up. This was the Nr.1 tv-show in the world for several years, becoming bigger & bigger with every year and now nobody gives 2 shits about it anymore. That's how disappointing the final season was.
It amazes me that Hollywood haven't looked to people like Critical Drinker, RLM and Mauler as consultants for their scripts. It's an untapped source of amazing story writing
Well said. It would have been a huge twist. She seemed near invincible by the end. It would have shocked everyone. Not to mention a huge threat. Arya Whitewalker would have been threatening as hell.
Arya deserverved to do something big. She was a strong female character and she did earn it through the tough work of character progression. So what they had her do was a slap in the face of her character as well. When winning is really losing.
Arya becoming a white walker? I don't know if that makes much sense, some earlier dead characters coming back as a white walker would be so much more exciting
@Kenny McCormick I love legit criticism. I'll ad my 2 cents. 1. Well they could have the dragons burn down the forest between them and the NightWalkers chasing them. Giving them the time to retreat there and also creating non battle scenes that were a badly needed buffer between all the action. 2. I'm not going to ponder that hard on this one, only say that this was a very intriguing idea(and of course magic is part of Bran's character history, so a magical explanation is plausible) 3. If Dany in the end actually wants to be Of the People, then she might want to respect their wishes and since there they didn't want her, her going back to the people she freed actually does make sense. It would seem your hating at the end of your comment is more a reflection on you than it is Critical Drinking.
The most obvious arc would have her delivering the killing blow to Cersey (along with the two Cleganes duking it out), bringing her revenge arc to an end. And TBH, albeit predictable, this would have been perfectly satisfying. So, why couldn´t we have at least THAT? The problem with DnD isn´t that they didn´t put enough "effort" into the story. The problem is that they put *too much* effort into "SuBvEArTiNG EXSpacTaciOns" until they flipped everything around and nothing made sense anymore. - Arya killing Cersei? Nah, too obvious. - Arya becoming a white walker (or suffering some other gruesome fate)? Sounds like a classic GoT shock moment. But aren´t fans expecting stuff like that as well? - So, what if Arya, like, kills the ACTUAL NIGHT KING mid-season and like, ummm... does fuck nothing after that? OMG, that´s perfect! No one will ever expect that! Mission accomplished boys!
What hurt the most besides watching the Night King being gutted by Aria who had absolutely no relation to that storyline rather than having Jon Snow and the Night King facing off in a 1-on-1 desperate final battle with the rest of Westeros being completely overrun by Wights, (As the Night King Invasion of Kings Landing is what the Final Two Episodes SHOULD have been about instead of a pointless squabble between Dany and Cersei) was seeing Jon, Tyrion, Varys and Jamie all being Jake Skywalker’d one by one within the span of a few episodes.
Its like if stars remade old palpatine oringinal death and made it so Lando sneaked into Death Star and shot palpatine dead and ,Darth Vader and Luke are just standing there
yeah it made no sense for her to be the one to kill the Night King. I wonder if that is really how it happens in the books.. it seems so dumb that I can't believe GRRM would write it that way.
@@vortigern7021 yeah that's not going to go well... "Hey guys... remember that show we got you invested in for years then fucked you over in the last few weeks?... Well we have more of that coming for years if you're interested in wasting more time"
It should've beem Jon. What do they say a lot very early in the show? The one who doesn't want to rule usually should. That's Jon. He doesn't want to be King, but he's good at it. Bran had potential, but his character arc was butchered and I hated how he just went emotionless all of a sudden.
Not "useless" necessarily. Without Bran, knowledge of R+L=J would have died with Ned in Season 1. I personally would nominate Rickon for Most Useless Character, hopefully he at least serves as a Stark rallying point in the books.
Yeah, the Bran story really should have ended with the revelation that his time travelling caused the Mad King to go crazy and stockpile wildfire, and that his time travelling caused him to become the Night King.
What makes even less sense is Sansa (terrible character anyway) deciding to secede from the Seven Kingdoms. Why? Bran is a Stark, you’d think the North more than any other kingdom would be fine with him as King of Westeros.
The Jamie Queenslayer thing, stopping Cersie from repeating the madness of the previous king is EXACTLY what I always thought was going to happen. It made so much sense! Instead they died having a cuddle under some rubble. Ridiculous. And also, well done for pointing out that while D&D completely messed up, the real problem lies with Martin and his complete abdication of any responsibility. Years ago he admitted in an interview that he had no idea how to finish the story as he had too many characters and plots going on, so there's literally zero hope for it ever being finished.
Yeah, it was deeply unsatisfying that Dani suddenly flipped and fell back into justifying the Mad Targaryen Ruler trope she'd been fighting against through the entire series to that point. You could see her engaging in brutality and vengeance, creating the suspense whether she did have the roots of the madness in there, but it was ambiguous and there was enough there to see it as justified and appropriate. Then at the end her brain just let go and she just kind of took over from the night king in the narrative as the simplistic nihilistic evil force bad guy wanting to burn all of humanity... ? After all the death, betrayal and pain she flips because one frizzy haired chick gets killed in front of her? They didn't even pay homage to the LGBTIQ twit brigade (who police that all the non standard gender and sexuality role boxes ticked) by building some epic unresolved lesbian love story behind her mental devolution
"... the real problem lies with Martin and his complete abdication of any responsibility. Years ago he admitted in an interview that he had no idea how to finish the story as he had too many characters and plots going on, so there's literally zero hope for it ever being finished." Too true. This happened to another beloved series of mine, namely the Honor Harrington universe. When the story was really just about Captain Honor Harrington, her ship and her command, or maybe even just her at squadron-level command, the writing was tight and consistent, with characters that we could remember without referring to the series' wiki. When the author David Weber kept expanding the cast of characters out and included side stories that somehow tied back into the main plot it got messy as all hell. Then there's the fact that the main character was supposed to die in combat and the story was going to pick up again 20 or 30 standard years later with her children, but instead Weber kept Honor alive and thus had to condense the plot back to somehow make it work in an increasingly muddled mess. Apparently he kept her alive because he was afraid that the fans would come after him with pitchforks for killing off Honor. This in a book series that routinely killed off main characters as a matter of course. Plus the Big Bad changed to a completely inept, horribly corrupt, technologically and militarily backwards Solarian League with a bad case of "Not invented here so it must not exist" syndrome. Ugh. What a fracking mess. There's a reason that I say that the Honorverse got a case of the George R. R. Martin Disease. When your cast of characters is so large that you need something similar to a DnD character sheet just to keep it all straight and you have dozens of plot points it just makes for a confusing mess in which the writing suffers.
"Isn't perfect", You had a better grasp on the series overall than everyone on the production staff! Your version takes care of tall the characters in satisfying ways and ties up all loose ends!!! I would buy your book in a heartbeat!
Great Fixes!! I can't believe how perfectly Jamie's arc fits into place in your version. As soon as you hear it, you think, "Of course! They were laying the groundwork for this all along!" Brann's new storyline is incredibly inventive and surprising, but totally works. Arya's would've been painful to watch, but retains the tension for her character far better than "exploring the world." Well done. Thanks! I'll think of your fixes next time around.
I’ve never seen Game Of Thrones.. So as it stands, I am one of the few that is lucky enough to have this version be the ONLY version that exists in my head. I don’t plan to change that. Thank you!
*just standing around looking at each other and shrugging their shoulders then wandering off leaving a bunch of paper plates and red solo cups everywhere*
Just imagine if the 5 armies in The Hobbit, when they gathered on battlefield chose instead to stop, sing kumbya, & share the dwarves gold equally with one another. THAT, would have been a better ending, than what we got during the last season of GoT.
I think the Drinker Fixes series is your best work. Any asshole can tear something down and complain about the things that should have been better, but actually creating something good is infinitely more difficult. Your fixes for Luke Skywalker, Rey, Finn and Fat Thor are the reason I subscribed to this channel and started reading the Ryan Drake series. I appreciate your work, Drinker.
After watching this video, seriously? They should've hired you as the showrunner of the final season. Everything you came up with makes sense, it serves the way the characters are/were portraied. S8 would've been a success. And for the other, supporting characters - well, they would've been the jobs of the screenwriters under your supervision. And yes, I mean this.
literally a random fanfic from a fanfic forum would have been better then the show. They could have went story shopping on the internet and it would have been much better. No Dnd desided in their coke adled mind that this is genius and will cement us as the greaterst writters of all time and we gonna make 100 mil each on each of those awesome star wars movies we wanted to make since we were little kids.
Yup, Drinker's rough sketch may be flaky but it's still one hell of a lot better than the actual output. EDIT: maybe 10-15 years from now, when computer-aided photo-quality VR illustration has become the norm, someone will redraft the GoT ending using Drinker's plot mapping. And I'll enjoy watching it. Except we'll both probably die from liver cancer shortly thereafter and won't be capable of discussing the excellent results!
I like the assessment of G.R.R. Martin's massive role in this disaster. I've been saying the similar for years, especially as someone who read all five books (and loved them) before the first episode even premiered. He let his fans down tremendously, and holds the lion share of blame for letting his own story wither and die this sad flop of a death.
I've also read his books, and one of my biggest pet peeves is when people say, "just enjoy what he HAS written, he doesn't owe us anything else!" Yes, yes he does. I would never buy half a story. His fans made him wealthy because he promised them a saga. If he dies before finishing the story, he cheated us all into buying half of a story. You've taken my money, TELL THE BLOODY STORY!
@@Lawrence330 I was reading them then stopped when I realized he was stalling for years already with no sign of releasing the next one. That was years ago and we're in the same spot. Why would I invest the hours and days into thousands of pages that will never reach resolution?
@@sublimechimp you should pick the books back up again solely because of the pleasure when reading them. It might not have an ending now or ever but they are 150% worth the read. Infinitely better than the show and one of the best series ever made.
if the show at least would have had some sort of half fiished version of Winds around season 6 they would have had more of a throughtline and might have been able to kinda produce a more convincing end. But GRRM prob hasnt written anything between dance and the corona outbreak for winds. I mean FFS we were confident back in the day winds would come soon due to him having a lot of material on the backburner that was cut from Dance. He went into the book with like having at least 20 chapters already written (what we know from the fucking 10 year old "preview" chapters. Thats like 25% of the book already done. Then during Lockdown finally he starts writting again and says he made big advances. Then a few months ago the news of him not brining as much to paper as the year before. Likely due to him beeing distracted by helping Hbo with those worthless prequeal shit and him getting distracted by god damn everything again. He really should just admid he doesnt like writting anymore and wants to retire. Better then him stringing us along. He will die far before hes gonna be finished with Winds and then we will get a halfbacked realease of his material showing he has written like 10 chapters across those 10 years. Its just pathetic.
8 Seasons of blunt Trash and Sex; to make the Fans believe its 7 Good Seasons. And the worst thing: It f-ing worked. God, i hate modern times. GOT is a true example for bad quality being viewed in all legit Truthness as Good. Wow.
@@slevinchannel7589 The first 4 or so seasons were pretty good though. It started dropping in quality when the Dorne plot was introduced and it was mostly downhill from there, though there were still some good moments until the end of season 7. Season 8 was trash. So the show wasn't all bad.
One thing i love about your version is how Jaime is the one to kill Cersei, from the moment Jaime confessed to Brienne about why he killed the Aerys. i always thought he will be the one to kill Cersei, it would've been so poetic, and i would also add that Jaime either kills himself or get killed by the mountain, since he told Tyrion he wants to die in the arms of the woman he loves
"jon exiled to the north for the heinous crime of saving the entire world" Hey, that is the most realistic part of the show. Authorities getting rid of people who do a better job than them
Except that with the Wall breached, the Others defeated and the Wildlings being integrated into the North, what is the purpose of the Night's Watch? Also what authorities? With Cercei dead Jon and Dany are the authorities in King's Landing. Between them they command the only remaining armies outside of Dorne.
To be fair on the writers, this might have been in character for him. He wasn't so much exiled as cleared of all his obligations, and told to go North and live in peace with his wildling friends and his very good doggy.
@@bluemountain4181 didnt varis say "power resides where people believe it resides"? Queen of the iron fleet, chosen leader of the unsullied... quite a few of influential figures whose decision the people are willing follow. That makes them authority.
You know what?? Just hit me that Bran survived the fall BECAUSE JAMIE USED HIS LEFT HAND!! It was foreshadowing his losing his right & how ineffective he was with the left--too bad he didn't turn more & do the job properly
After the Night King survived a blast of dragon fire to the face, the only satisfying conclusion in my mind was for him to just kill everyone. He earned it.
That's how I thought it should end. Humans fighting over the throne that in the end is destroyed by the white walkers. The shows ends with winter covering all of Westeros and most of the main characters dead.
And then the final shot is just a pan-out from The Night King sitting on the iron throne, in the endless winter. (a copy-paste from Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne ending cinematic, but cool nonetheless). Speaking of The Lich King, I always thought Jon would kill The Night King and then after seeing that the undead still run wild he realises that "there must always be a night king to control them" and plunges the Night King's obsidian shard into his own heart, becoming the actual-true-king in the nord....and Dany, representing fire, the Queen in the south -> Fire & Ice.
The easiest ending to develope, for a shocking impact never seen in the history of entertainment. It would have been strange, but not so bad as it has been.
Man your alternate ending is fantastic! I literally just felt the emotional roller coaster it took me on, and I’m genuinely happier about GOT now, just believing that’s how it really ends….thanks for the ride! Cheers!
Anyone else hit the like button about halfway through, and then get to the end when he starts breaking down the way Dan and David's greed and impatience destroyed not just the show but themselves in the process and be like, "I regret that I have but one like to give to my Drinker?"
'There are dozens of other stories and characters that I didnt have time to deal with, otherwise this video would be Three Hours long' // Mauler has entered the Chat
You had me on the edge with this audiobook adaptation- 100% this would have been better than what we got - not to mention they obviously missed an opportunity with Jaime killing Cerci - easy poetic slam dunk and they dropped the ball
I thought Aria should have killed Cersi wearing Jamie's face. First Cersi would feel betrayed by her love only to have Aria reveal her identity allowing her to complete her list of people to kill.
I disagree. Or at least, if in fact revenge was going to be the main motif of Arya, that theme should have been a tragic one, not something the show had to empower. That's not to say arya shouldn't go through a character arc that focuses on revenge, but rather that it would have been good if she would eventually learn to let go of revenge in favor of consequences. (Example of a lesson she learned in the books: she chose to use her 3 free kills from Ja'qen on some minor characters that had wronged her or those close to her in the past few days. She forgot all about the fact that she could have very easily taken out the mountain, the fort commander, or really anybody in the kingdom that she desired, such as Joffrey Lannister. She blamed herself for her own impulsiveness later on.) The reason she does her little death list chant is because it's a coping mechanism, taught to her by a former criminal whose only job was to get her from king's landing to the wall. That's not wise advice, and it just turned her into a vicious little sociopath. Conversely, her meeting up with the Hound is likely intentional. The hound is a character who'se haunted by revenge and by a cynical world-view where "killing is the only thing that matters", while still revealing he once used to be a good man, and has the potential to do good, somewhere still inside him. Now, in the show, that theme was concluded with, what exactly? The hound telling her "this is not your fight", and then continuing with that idiotic "cleganebowl", which made no sense in terms of his character-arc. Both the Hound and Arya should have found peace in doing that which is right, rather than being consumed with a quest for vengeance that will just make them feel hollow in the end. Because the show-writers didn't understand this very simple character arc, and didn't understand the consequences of having a CHILD transform into a revenge-seeking psycho, they failed to gave that arc a satisfying conclusion. "Clegane-bowl" was so insultingly idiotic in every single way other than pure, numbskulled sensationalism, and Arya's character had to suffer from the same internet hype stupidity that D&D were glad to feed and nurture.
That seems really one-note though. There weren't any real consequences for Arya's path in life. It's just that she just straight up gets what she wanted in the end.
8 Seasons of blunt Trash and Sex; to make the Fans believe its 7 Good Seasons. And the worst thing: It f-ing worked. God, i hate modern times. GOT is a true example for bad quality being viewed in all legit Truthness as Good. Wow.
As far as I'm concerned, this is what actually happened. It always made sense to me that in the end Jaime would be the one to kill Cersei. All that time she feared Tyrion would be her end, only for it to be her beloved twin.
Yeah made total sense. Everything from that witches predictions of her future came true, and the final piece was killed by her younger brother. It was mentioned specifically in the books Cersei was the first of the twins to come out. The whole subversion was meant to be it turning out to be Jamie after his epic redemption arc as opposed to Tyrion
Directors of GoT never had any intention of giving justice to characters or to story. They nly wanted to make story which we fans were not expecting to end it in that way.
It's called Winterfell because 'winter' falls there, not because it falls to 'winter'. King's Landing was named because it was where Aegon the Conqueror first set foot on mainland Westeros when his invasion began.
Here was me thinking they would have the White Walkers and the winter get as far as Starfall or Oldtown far to the South before Jon Snow uses the sword called Dawn to end the new Long Night. Nah, that would’ve been too cool.
@@wafflingmean4477 They didn't "GIVE" it, they were paid to do a job, few if any of them have "fuck you" money, and if offered another big paycheck, would most likely gladly accept.
That awkward moment when you realize that all they had to do to make a decent ending to the story was to hire a drunken Scot and pay him in lap dances and Jack Daniels. Great stuff Drinker.
Yeah, what "story"? Considering his arc was the one I usually skipped through to go to the more interesting parts, him being King was a major let down, especially for that reason.
This. That part of the video actually gave me some chills, no pun intended. That would have been so heartbreaking seeing as how Jon and Bran were connected since the very first chapter in the books. Watching Jon have to put several members of his beloved family down would have been nails in the heart. Meanwhile, Dany is also losing her most precious companions, people she considers her found family. Jesus though the Bran part of this...bravo, Drinker. This is my new ending for GOT.
That is quite old theory thats been going around and maybe even close what GRRM is/was planning. Well maybe not, but its definently not Drinker who came up it first. D&D however wanted Arya to be the one killing the night king because they thought everyone liked Arya so much.
@@tabull8180 Oh yes, I am well aware of the theory. I tend to agree with it myself, but I wasn't sure how it would/could pan out. I love the way Drinker wraps it up here. If it is indeed what has happened to Bran in the show, they buried the lead so much that it was lost. We'll see what Martin does, if he ever gets there.
@@jorgeinojosa8792 Yes, but what makes that part of the video special, imo, is Drinker takes that leading theory and builds an actual scene around the resolution of it. It doesn't jump the shark and It has emotional impact that far exceeds anything the real finale had. The believability within the narrative works, and the payoff feels incredibly moving. Ive seen people discuss the theory with rather silly outcomes/reasons. This is the first time I've see it actually work incredibly well.
Depending on the execution of the concept this could be great! It would be a tragic end to Jamie's character arc - certainly more satisfying than what we got.
An entitled, self-righteous woman who demands a land she has never been too is hers, under a culture she has never been part of. And who enjoys burning people in her constant search for "justice." That kind of person would never change her desire for what she believes is hers.
@@als3022 Exactly. While I appreciate the Drinker trying to revise it, this is ultimately how the character was going to end up. It was just rushed and done so poorly, so it left a bad taste in people's mouths, making some people wish none of it ever happened. There are however those people who did mistakenly idolize the character and see her as some female Jesus girl boss, thinking she was the kind of person who would end up being everyone's hero. The skeleton of the end of Daenerys' story is I think how Martin intended it to be. Her actions in the end weren't bad writing, it was all foreshadowed. It's just that the events building up to it were terrible writing.
@@4u5t Pretty much my thoughts. Everyone saying "Oh this isn't where her arc was going." Haven't been paying attention. The road to it got full of rocks and feces, but it's the direction it was going. I was predicting it around Season 5. And so were alot of others. Never understood the Dany fans. "OH she is good?" Yeah no one that self-righteous and bloodthirsty is going to be the hero. To be honest most "corrections" are giving Dany a happy ending.
@@als3022 She does not enjoy burning people. Her empathy with the common folk is real. Burning the commoners of Kings Landing is not in her character. Thems the facts. A misplaced sense of rightiousness and stubborness are her flaws. Season 7 set everything up for a redemption arc for Daenerys. Everything felt forced in the other direction in season 8. It would be a much shorter leap if all that had happened to her lead her to the conclusion that she is the one who dUn wAn iT.
Mfer says “it wasn’t perfect” but proceeded to come up with an absolute banger of a pitch, Jamie becoming the “queen slayer” while also fulfilling Cersei’s prophecy was just a goddamn chef’s kiss! Bravo Drinker
Alternate resolution to the Hound's story: He ventures into the Red Keep, searching for Gregor, and finds his brother already half dead, pinned beneath a ton of rubble that fell on him. In that moment, he sees his brother for the wretch he always has been, and with disgust realizes that he's been wasting his life chasing a dream of revenge against an inhuman abomination. He throws down his sword, turns around, and walks away, off to salvage what meaning he can from the time he has left.
Yes, but I interpreted that as him running from his anger instead of dealing with it. In the scenario I described, he would be facing his feelings directly and fully letting go.
I never got the sense, anywhere in the show, that the Hound's main beef with life was his brother. There's so many better things they could have done with his character than a one-on-one final confrontation with his brother. It felt fan-fed and cliche.
When the show was at it's height I was getting sick of it, it was all anyone spoke about. After the final season that stopped, over night. Broken indeed.
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Have you reviewed Curb Your Enthusiasm? Got the feeling I'd find that one a real knee slapper.
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*Damn, that's actually good! I'll be damned! Pity the Two Amigos didn't bother to hire at least one **_competent_** writer...*
Love this
They single handedly destroyed the replay value of their own show with this season 🤦🤦
Ehh, I still watch seasons 1 through 6 regularly.
@@HowlitzerPaul u a different breed lol
@@HowlitzerPaul Are you made of mithril? Because I wouldn't rewatch GoT knowing how it ends, all that build up made to shit
Like How I Met Your Mother did
@@bryanmanuel4945 I don't even consider Season 8 canon. I'm even iffy about Season 7. And I'm not saying that as a whiny fan, I mean, it's as if my brain just doesn't identify it as canon. It's like bad fan fiction in which the characters are completely different. Tyrion is stupid. Varys is no longer sneaky. Dany is a homicidal maniac. John has no agency. And on and on. As far as my brain is concerned, we never received a canonical ending to Thrones.
When a drunk Scot does better in ten minutes than overpaid Hollywood writers do in years.
He has the right combo of drink & imagination😎
Well, to be fair, said drunk Scot is also a writer of thriller fiction, and, may I stress it, a professional, unlike some we may name. So.... :v
George should never have revealed the ending to D+D, it might have been better if they had come to their own conclusion.
@@PedroRPFerraz , I think you're exactly right and the problem extends beyond Hollywood. You see it in the world of work and politics, people rising to positions of power and status because they "know someone" or have the gift of the gab and can blag their to way to the top of a company or political party. Meanwhile, people of actual talent and capability get overlooked and disallowed opportunities to reach their full potential.
They should have just hired the Drinker!
Jaime killing Cerci was the obvious and perfect choice for their arc. How they missed that opportunity I’ll never understand.
They aborted his arc in the books and refused to allow him to move past the zombie drone belief that Cersei was his truest love. The books are setting up him getting with Brienne and turning on Cersei (he already turned his back on her and spurned her), but because they dropped all of that beyond his interest in Brienne in the show they brilliantly decided that Jaime was just 'addicted' to her.
Subverting expectations.
That actually seems so, but appears to me as a mistake in the Drinker's solutions here. Cersei would know Jamie will never execute that order to burn them all. He is Kingslayer for refusing that same act before, plus... she knows he got soft. No, Cersei should kill Jamie! Shock and horror! Who then kills Cersei I don't know. Bitchfight with the other queen? Nah, lame. Ooh, The Hound! He could bring that kill with casual brutality. Ya know chop her in half or something. Main point: no way would Cersei trust Jamie with that order.
@@tjeerdhoek2549 Arya should kill Cersei. Use the assassin training that she got from the previous 8 years of the show to take her revenge on the woman who murdered her father in front of her eyes and the reason she started her list.
The only payoff that Hollywood asshats are consistent at is disappointment.
Jamie becoming the “QUEEN SLAYER” would have been the greatest arc of a character we’d ever have seen since Walter White.
I was waiting for that for years. That fortune thing, that her little brother was going to kill her, and Tyrion was way too obvious, so it had to be... a fucking building.
@@jewel8425 well, see what had Happened was…..she got hit in the head/ spine , neck by a beam and was suffering horribly and was in terrible agony under the rubble . So with his last deed , with the last ounce of strength he had left , Jamie suffocated Cersei in an act of love and mercy bringing the premonition to fruition .
Tadaaaaaaaaaa
Agreed
It would also have been the most predictable which doesn't feel right.
@@adamwilcox6405
You know what else didn't feel right?
"To be honest I never really cared about them. Innocent or otherwise."
This will permanently replace the last season of GoT's in my head. Amazing job!
So this is what closure feels like...
A couple small thoughts. Jamie should be set as John’s head of Kingsguard, acknowledging that he has the guts to take out a king who has overstepped and gone mad (or mad with power). Bring him full circle from Kingslayer as an insult to a title of honor. Second, early in the books, Dany keeps thinking about when they were running from Kings Landing and living at a house with a red door. She should return not to rule Essos, but retire to a peaceful home with a red door.
Exactly! *_THIS_* is how you finish a story!
GoT s8 was awesome. Drinker's version is dumb. No way would Jon retreat if the Night King killed Arya. He'd attack no matter the odds. Drinker doesn't understand GoT. The GoT s8 haters are stupid.
Loved it all except for Arya’s ending. I like how the Hound helped deliver her from the bondage of hatred and her quest for revenge. I’d have found a way to keep that in. Then I’d have had her kill the Mountain, thereby returning the favor and saving the Hound from his.
The Hound survives and chooses to serve John...as he finally has a noble ruler to follow.
Arya survives and returns home to Winterfell to serve on Sansa’s Queen’s Guard.
Me too ... it feels like a PTSD therapy :D
Though Hypnosis. And snap your fingers and this is how I remember it from now on
For me, this is now canon. The drinker fixes in 12 minutes what Dumb and Dumber couldn't do in 3 years. Martin is never going to finish this saga so thank you so much you Scottish legend.
Seconded.
Agree 💯
Agreed, when I rewatch GoT Ill go from season 1-7 then watch this video
Robin and the other great family’s: what about us?
Canon for me is they all die both sides should have been too depleted to fight the night king effectively and any defeats are more troops for the night king yeah the living should have lost. Plus is kinda the ultimate subversion as the “good guys” are defeated because wouldn’t stop fighting.
Drinker comes up with a version 100x better than D&Ds version while almost undoubtedly drunk. Give this man a writing gig on a sequel show
Yeah like he said there was a million little sub plots he couldn’t get into but what he did come up with is miles better than anything the writers came up with.
One sub plot I was super disappointed with was how they did my boy Little Finger. Like his final character arc didn’t even make sense they just gave him some random scheme, seemingly for no justification other than “because he’s the scheming character”, then he gets unceremoniously girl-bossed by the 2 stark sisters and executed with like no payoff. Super anticlimactic with how they’d built him up over the years
And probably in a couple days, maybe even like an hour. The dude is super talented.
@@Justin-gv3lpIt was also pointed out previously that the real Little Finger would have gotten the fuck out of Winterfell the second Bran said " chaos is a ladder". But the plot needed him to stay so the writers stripper him of all his cunning and political genius. I mean he didn't even request a trial by combat. Pathetic writing.
Out of all The Drinkers videos, this is probably the best example of why in an ideal he should be in charge of allllll major film and TV productions coming out of Hollywood, no pressure...
We don't want a sequel!
We want a remake of season 7-8
The White Walkers not making it to King’s Landing is absolutely criminal.
Right what about the vision in the house of the undying with the snow and broken keep!
Did they even get past the wall? After "winter is coming" for long it's suddenly spring just like that.
@@dtczyk8976it was Ash? And it did happen
The biggest mistake they made was making Cersei the final enemy. It made her seem like she was more dangerous than the night king, when the night king definitely was more dangerous . And they rushed the shit out of it.
I wouldn't say that making her the final enemy that they faced was a mistake. They could've had her seem like she was a lesser threat that they were going to deal with after the big bad or a knife waiting in the dark _if they weren't incompetent_ .
Exactly to me she was a medium villain on the way.
it was silly to make her seem more of a threat than the white walkers but they tried to do that in Episode 4 by miraculously killing off a dragon with a once in a lifetime shot then wrecking a good part of Danni's fleet. It made you think "hey, maybe Cersei is a big threat! Then Episode 5 her entire army is obliterated in less than 10 minutes
But she stared through the window intensely
Cersei was not the final enemy. Dany was. And she was the most dangerous enemy of them all.
Mad props to the drinker for giving Jaime a complete character arc that makes sense. Tatianna would be proud of you mate 🍻.
and maybe she'll...burn your Dragon Throne!! HEH HA HA HAAAAA!!
Inversely, Brienne of Tarth doing it, and bridging the gap between her and Jaime, as far as her constant talk of honor and devotion to her betters making it seem unthinkable
It was exactly how I thought it was gonna go to begin with, imagine my slack jaw confusion even as the bricks fell lol
@@GorramT so you’re a lousy writer too, eh?
Yeah the drinker put together a symmetrical yet satisfying plot in 2 hours. Kudos, drinker.
I went from recommending this show to everyone to telling them to not even bother wasting their time.
Same.
can i ask what actually happened that abruptly made it so bad? i havent watched it, but im interested in why
The show runners ran out of material to adapt, making it up as they go. And they mishandled every character and plot point.
same tbh
I just tell people to stop watching at season 7.
The Bran/Hodor reveal was incredible. Bran being the Night King would have been awesome.
Bran was the Night King, this ending is canon as far as I'm concerned!
Now that I look at them, I just realized how they have basically the same face and demeanor.
This would have been the only acceptable ending.
The Three-Eyed Raven being shown as a villain would also work. At least a hint that the conflict with the Night King wasn't good vs evil or well, nothing, really, because we still don't know why he wanted Bran dead. But ultimately a fight for power by 2 equally evil characters.
I agree
In less than 15 minutes the Drinker showed more creative talent than an army of writers did in years on an actual production.
I have to disagree. Although his battle against the night king is better the rest seems more like fan fiction
The drinker is a bestselling author
@@Nelcomarproductions was his story perfect? No but it is a hella lot better than what D&D gave us.
@@Nelcomarproductions Drinker’s version is more coherent than what D&D slopped this season
@@Nelcomarproductions Agree, but the last two seasons were also fan fiction.
"He won't finish it in his lifetime."
"Nah, it will be fine." Says R.R. Martin's 98% clogged heart.
He gets mad when people say this, but come on. Let's be realistic. My guy could die at any moment and leave millions of fans hanging.
@@kyle857 *Getting Wheel of Time flashbacks*
It's okay, as long as he doesn't get kneed his heart won't be an issue!
Season 8 has even put me off ever reading the books again, couldn't care less about the next one whether he finishes it or not
He doesnt have a desire to write anymore, most likely.
Praise our drinker for performing such a herculean task
Love the video and love the drinker but it’s not a Herculean task. Dan and Dave fucked up every single choice they made in the last season. It’s like they scienced out how to make it shitty and unsatisfying and went with it. Making the ending better is a task my 10 year old niece could pull off. On a napkin. On her lunch break at school. And the amazing thing is how much were the writers paid for this bullshit? They literally made everything that came before it pointless and unwatchable. And until season 7 I fucking loved GOT. Bastards.
He's a total Olympian. Truth
It was good. I gave up on this show 5 years before season 8 and his ending makes me wanna watch it all haha.
It would make sence if Danny completely destroyed kings landing first, killing her only opposition to power and making a huge statement, uniting the 7 kingdoms in fear. This would be a necessary evil to unite everyone in time to face the night king. Then she could have faced the dead army at the twins where their larger force would have been completely bottle necked and open to artillery fire. We could have also learnt about the night kings and his origins. Reading the other work by JRRR Martin, his 1000 worlds stuff, it would have a been a great twist to learn that the planet was once an advanced human colony that regressed to medival technology. With old tech now regarded as magic.
And so seemingly effortlessly. How some studio or media head hasn't put this this guy on retainer to write content is beyond me. Some eventually will. He's already a novelist. Im just surprised it hasnt happened already, his critiques and fixes are so dead on. I watched an old series from 2013 this past week called *_The Fall,_* about a serial killer and a female detective hunting him down. It was shot mostly in Dublin. I had never heard of it. If you havent seen it, with Gillian Anderson (even if her UK accent is a bit spotty in places) and Jamie Dornan as the charming killer, it was definitely above average for TV, I thuoght. Everyone in it was excellent and the writing was good. It surprised me.
You should have added the "valonqar prophecy" touch, by adding "choke her to death."
Cersei was omened her doom by a woods seer Maggy the Frog.
She asked if she'd marry the prince (Rhaegar Targaryen).
"Never," Maggy replied. "You will wed a king."
"But will I be queen?"
"Oh yes," Maggy said. "You will be queen, for a time... Until there comes another, younger and more beautiful and cast you down and take all you hold dear."
"Will the king and I have children?
"The king will have twenty, you will have three." Maggy said. Cersei tried to interrupt, clearly confused.
"Gold will be their crowns, and gold will be their shrouds," she continued before devolving into hysterical laughter.
"And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life out of you."
Valonqar means little brother in Valyrian.
Cersei would believe it to be Tyrion, but it would really be her brother Jaime who was also born after.
I think the show runner didn't actually engage in the lore to notice this poetic detail which gives closure to Cersei.
So G.R.R knew that they were beyond help.
I work at an assisted living facility for the elderly. During the hype of Game of Thrones we had a few residents who watched the show and even they were appalled by the way it ended. In remembrance to William Baker, he once told me "I fought in Vietnam and even that had a better resolution than Game of Thrones".
Holy shit 🤣
ahahaha
RIP
LMAO damn
I feared you'd say that some got stroke, it was so bad.
Ouch, man.
The ending of GOT was the greatest tragedy in modern television. How the showrunners could just give up and dump that phoned in crap on us will never be forgotten.
Same as STD and Star Trek Picard/Lower decks
@@FQP-7024 The difference is the level of letdown. GoT was the best fantasy TV show of all time for a few seasons, and have fallen to that level where ST:D and ST:P was at the get go (tbf I consider the final GoT episode worse than any NuTrek so far).
More to the point. Why were they allowed to do it? What were the studio thinking?
It took a load off those responsible for the completely suckful end of Dexter.
Oh wait, they still feel bad and are trying again.
@@SigmundJaehn They weren't, HBO wanted 3 more seasons, but Disney called and wanted another star wars trilogy which "thankfully" never happened... people won't forget their names now.
I was just imagining Cersei saying "burn them all" when she orders Jamie to ignite the wildfire which triggers his memory of the mad king. That would have been an incredible scene if it had happened.
that would have been perfecto
Also...Bran wargs a dragon to fulfill his vision and the Old Tree's prophecy that he would fly.
Yes!
Ohhhh I get it.... So what this means is she's JUST like the mad king now.... Wow.....
Pretty corny line if you ask me hahah with got and tlou 2 everyone suddenly became a professional writer
I love GoT s8 and think what we got was infinitely better than that. Daenerys was fulfilling her father's final order when she decided to torch King's Landing, that was awesome, it was the Targaryen wheel coming full circle.
I love TLOU2 as well. I'm baffled by people hating this amazing season and that amazing game and then having these lame ideas about them and slapping each other on the back for their new, completely rubbish, storylines.
The idea of Danni returning to esos is perfect because it fits with how she found herself there and everything was generally made better by her ruler and she was clearly happy but when she came to Westeros everything messed up so the story can have her realise this and basically realise where her true home is now
From the books I remember something along the lines of, when Dany thinks of home the image of a red door to a house in Essos (where she basically grew up after her family had to flee) pops into her mind. I'd love the idea of Dany defining where "home" is for her and liberating herself from the path her brother tried to force her on.
Remember when we used to recommend this show to everyone and their grandmother? Now that we are in a global pandemic and there is nothing to do besides sit and watch shows inside your home, no one is re-watching this show let alone recommend this to someone else. It’s like they really did kill it at the end.
Probably gonna re-watch Bab5 for the.. dunno, umpteenth time I guess, instead of watching GoT for the first time..
Crazy, huh? It was the show everyone was talking about, the anticipation for a new season was insane. Then in the space of a single season it went from 100-0 and now no one cares at all. Its like it never existed.
They fucked up the ending so badly that it ruined the rewatchability of the earlier seasons. All those subplots of dany and jon were a complete waste.
It also sucks cuz the first seasons were really good but there's no point in watching the first 5 seasons and stopping
Astute observation
Jon Snow turned into Groot for the last season in all he can say is some form of "She is my queen".
"we are queen"
"I am simp" -- Jon Snow, knower of nothing.
Hodor 2.0, I think Bran washed his brain too.
"He is my queen." - Jon Snow.
50 years later Jon is a drooling vegetable that can only speak "shu's muh quon", much like Hodor, and only years later is it revealed what it actually means.
Becoming both a king slayer and a queen slayer. Now that’s smooth, sir.
The queen layer becomes the queen slayer.
I'd still better see Jamie as slayer of Night King.
@@piotrd.4850 I had hoped for this all along. Totally subverting the menaing of King slayer.
@@piotrd.4850 He doesn't have the sword for it.
would have fullfilled that prophesy they made a thing about and then.. forgot as well
I actually want the 3-hour version of this.
Queenslayer Jaime is the best way to finish his arc
I still can't believe we never got a Jon vs Night King boss battle. They'd literally been setting that up since season 5.
Consider your expectations subverted
More important to yell at zombie dragons
more like since season 1
@@nickentros Well that's never a bad thing...
@@nickentros i think that's what annoys me the most about it. These idiots literally sat in a room and decided what can we do that no one will see coming? Umm yeah no one would see it coming because you've had seasons of setting shit up just to completely ignore it all 🤦♂️ it so frustrating as it could of been fantastic and now it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth even after all this time!
I appreciate how, over the years, Drinker's persona has come to be less like the angry drunk you happen to meet in a bar and more like the drunk uncle that likes to regale you with his ideas and is, beneath it all, just glad to have someone listen to him. "Go away now" feels less like a dismissal and more like a firm farewell at this point.
How long have u been here then 😦
His character arc, basically
@@only1thatmakessense Drinker’s only been making videos for 2-3 years so not that long
Come visit my bar. This is just a small sample of the tales spun there. Too many writers are drunk. Not enough are typing. ;)
Damn it was so good. I picture the plot in my head and enjoyed it 10 times more than the actual series.
Could you fix some more stuff pls
Same!
I come back to listen to it just about every half year. Just to pretend-make it really THIS rendition. This is one hell of a way to fi ish it, and I totally wish that HE had written the ending at this point in my life. He may he a drunk bastard, but he's goddamned good at writing as well! A man of many talents, indeed. A toast the most, Critical Drinker! My hat is now off to you good Sir. Be well on This most joyous of nights.
Pls
@@rexbanner7256agreee!
They murdered their own show on purpose, this tragedy will never be forgotten. What is dead my never die..
Oh, it fuckin died alright.
Maybe it was contractual?
To give people a reason to buy the books?
Fire and blood for all of'm... and please. WE'LL BUY THE DAMN BOOKS. lol...if they every arrive.....argh.
This franchise broke my heart. It was such a cool story but the show was completely ruined. There’s the hope of the books but I don’t see George being able to finish them before his time comes. In the show we will always have a great story that became trash, while in the books it certainly looks like we will never have a conclusive narrative.
@Vincent H. They didn't care one way or the other, they were in a hurry to go elsewhere for a new writing job. They'd even been offered more seasons of GoT but turned it down, apparently. Also, as the Drinker said, they'd run out of source material, so you're kinda right too, they didn't know what to do either and deserted the sinking ship.
How to fix GOT: three more seasons and lock George in a room and don’t let him out until he finishes his damn books
then he just straight up dies in that room
The guy is loaded and HBO is going to make a pre-quil with their own writers. All he has to do is kick back and collect his paycheck, doubt he even gives a fuck.
Covid: I tried that, didn't do anything now did it?
@@yourmum69_420 right? We open the room in 2025 because of the awful smell...
The pandemic did that already and still not finished lol.
I would pay to hear the 3 hour version.
Same here , very much so
YES
Me Too
Same!
Yup
I always thought that bran and the night king being the same person was very logical and an intriguing plot
The show had been foreshadowing a showdown between Jon and the Night King for 7 years. They even cast a sword fighter as the Night King, obviously in anticipation of a climatic final sword fight between he and Jon Snow. The fact that they didn't do this so that they could instead give us a woke Deus-Ex-Aria ending is an unforgiveable sin.
That was my big issue. Totally ignored 7 seasons of buildup and literally ALL the lore just for a girl power moment.
@@XShadowAngel a girl power moment that totally undermines her entire arc, by the way. Absolutely moronic decision.
Fucking for real!!!!!!!
One unforgivable sin among many. May the show runners be plagued with chronic diarrhea for 7 years and 7 more.
Imagine how much more impactful Game of Thrones could of been if the Night King won? The North falls, Jon is struck down by the Night King, and all the while there is no great army to take on the slow march of death. There is no resistance. The Game of Thrones is played one last time to decide who will sit on the Iron Throne when the Night King inevitably arrives to sack King's Landing. The last episode ending on the visual spectacle of the Night King sitting on the Iron Throne.
I still can't believe the White Walker war never actually reached King's Landing.
Greatest threat to the world in a thousa... oh nevermind. Little sister got him.
I still can’t believe Jon ree’d at the dragon.
It was the biggest disappointment in the entire season , 7 seasons for the Whitewalkers to get killed by a 13 year old
Yeah its so sad. I woulda liked it if bran took control of the white walkers and they have to use them to take kings landing as their armies are gone resulting in them having to destroy bran/new knight king after. Even that would ve better
Edit: finished watching now basically what the drinker said. Great drunken minds think alike i guess
@@lazyislander4605 18
It’s not sad when professional fan fiction is more satisfying than the “real thing”…it’s sad that contemporary storytelling really makes that the case every time.
Well to be fair it is written with hindsight. Not saying the original ideas were good either
@@vandalcreed While that is true, season 8 made very basic mistakes that I believe could have been avoided, such as ending the threat of the White walkers with what was essentially a whimper after spending the previous seasons building them up. Having characters going completely against their established personalities and traits, especially with little to no forshadowing or in-universe reason is also a big no-no, and I believe that was at least part of the reason it fell apart so badly. And the characters going around doing nothing made me think of old martial arts movies, where the bad guys stand in line to get their butts kicked, and while I do understand why it's done it still looks stupid.
You should see the rwby fandom.
Season 8 of GoT and the Last Jedi are "shit the bed" bad. :D It's on par with bad fanfiction. It lacks any quality, and is transparently lazy and disrespectful, to the material and the fans.
Breaking Bad?
Given that it took almost 8 seasons for the white walkers and wights to make it from North of The Wall to Winterfell,I can't imagine how many more seasons it would've taken for them to reach King's Landing
If it was like the first 4 seasons, another 15 seasons. If it was like season 8, 1 episode
A lot of that consisted of the Night King gathering his strength. I see the undead army as a massive boulder teetering on the peak of a hilltop. It takes a long time for the boulder to gain enough momentum to finally tip over that hump at the top, but once it starts rolling, it picks up speed and turns into an unstoppable, rapidly moving force that will crush whatever is in its path. All that to say, it wouldn’t have taken them long to reach King’s Landing once their army was assembled and in motion.
@@Herpusderpus I imagine it would have been a much quicker process to get to King's landing as every town and city in their path would be turned into wights.
Kinda like luffy finding One Piece
Realy not that long, not like they need rest or anything. They could be sprinting not stop towards Kings Landing just stopping right in front of it to enter formation (and some dramatic stare-down). If you need the time for character stuff in Kings Landing, let them be slowed down by some ancient swamp-magic-leftovers in the Neck between North and South
it's incredible how literally no one is talking about this show anymore not even die hard fans, so much for once having been the biggest and most revered series on television...
Ironic that you post this on a new video about said show. 😉
Yes it is hahahah. I meant more like general pop culture discourse.
I speculate as to whether the show was some sort of psychological operation of some sort, based on the mass media promotion of it and the way it caught on with the public. Benioff's dad is Stephen Friedman, former Chairman of the New York Federal Reserve bank aka a member of the real world equivalent of the Iron Bank of Bravos.
Now all we need is for HBO to pony up $100m and roll with the Drinker’s version of season 8, and erase a
all records of the old one. Alas, no....
I’d consider myself a die hard fan; I grew up reading the books. I even have a large Lannister tattoo on my torso. I rewatched the first six seasons a few times... I don’t talk about the show anymore.
"The show ends with thunderous silence as everyone desperately tries to understand what the f*ck they just saw" - That hits home perfectly, that's exactly what happened to me, my family, my friends, my neighbors and their dogs
what about the cats?
@@tiagomonteiro6470 cats be cats, they don't give a sh!t.
@Kenny McCormick 1. If you are organized and willing to make sacrifice then even if it's a three weeks retreat, it's not impossible. In fact this kind of event can make a lotta characters shine bright and become memorable. Hell, a lot of plot holes could be plugged.
2. You need to redo a lotta scenes to connect Bran to the Night King, a whole mini series even but it'd still be a lot better than the show's resolution.
3. The way of the show then it really makes no sense for Dany to do that, but again, this is a whole new branch of reality so she could have actually grown up to be a better person.
Drinker's fix is only as good as a drunken guy trying to make sense of smt as sh!tty as GoT SS8 so 2/10 score is reasonable. Still the show ending is definitely not 5/10, more like 0.5/10. Yes, it's harsh but that's because early seasons were so phenomenal.
Yea me and the dogs have been plotting to bury D&D alive, and put Drinker on the throne!
The actors too, standing on the docks "ok, now what" looks on their faces.
If we send this to George R. R. Martin, I think he might actually rip you off and finally finish his books.
BUT WHAT WAS HIS TAX POLICY, THOUGH?
@@VargVikernes1488 Cannot imagine reading LOTR and wondering about a fucking tax policy. 😂
@@brentreimer6411 Your missing a key and very important factor. That may possibly play a even more unique, instrumental, non-critical role and much more important to the story... UNCENSORED DICK!
That will happen never.
Those books are long dead. He should have stopped at 3.
THANK YOU! This is so much better than the actual show ending and we may never see Winds Of Winter.
This hypothetical ending is SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE GOT
All except the Danny gives up her claim bit. She should have died fighting the night king. Otherwise it just ignores her entire character. The whole burning down the city bit *could* have worked if they had just accepted the extra season they were offered.
But frankly, the ending we got set a pretty low bar.
For sure
Even during quarantine, I haven't heard of a single person rewatching this show.
And what's funny here in my country they are selling all the seasons on blu ray at really low prices. You would think a very popular show like this would hold its value on blu ray and dvd.
Ironic!!
They literally killed their own show with season 8. It's absolutely baffling how they screwed it up. This was the Nr.1 tv-show in the world for several years, becoming bigger & bigger with every year and now nobody gives 2 shits about it anymore. That's how disappointing the final season was.
@@lamebubblesflysohigh yes of course. I'm sure if you go on sites like Amazon you get plenty of DVDs.
Bought all the season Blu Ray's when they came out... after season 8 I skipped buying that season and haven't watched a single episode since.
@@lamebubblesflysohigh epic
DRINKER: “There’s a lot to fix here. But then the video would be three hours long.”
DRINKER’S FANS: “OMFG DO IT!”
Do itttt
I could listen to him rant for hours
Yep
I throw my weight behind it
Yep that’s what I thought, after hearing the short cut I’m like - fuckit, I’m in!
It amazes me that Hollywood haven't looked to people like Critical Drinker, RLM and Mauler as consultants for their scripts. It's an untapped source of amazing story writing
Arya becoming a whitewalker is actually a good, ballsy move, she's tough, but not invicible.
Well said. It would have been a huge twist. She seemed near invincible by the end. It would have shocked everyone. Not to mention a huge threat. Arya Whitewalker would have been threatening as hell.
Arya deserverved to do something big. She was a strong female character and she did earn it through the tough work of character progression. So what they had her do was a slap in the face of her character as well. When winning is really losing.
Arya becoming a white walker? I don't know if that makes much sense, some earlier dead characters coming back as a white walker would be so much more exciting
@Kenny McCormick I love legit criticism. I'll ad my 2 cents.
1. Well they could have the dragons burn down the forest between them and the NightWalkers chasing them. Giving them the time to retreat there and also creating non battle scenes that were a badly needed buffer between all the action.
2. I'm not going to ponder that hard on this one, only say that this was a very intriguing idea(and of course magic is part of Bran's character history, so a magical explanation is plausible)
3. If Dany in the end actually wants to be Of the People, then she might want to respect their wishes and since there they didn't want her, her going back to the people she freed actually does make sense.
It would seem your hating at the end of your comment is more a reflection on you than it is Critical Drinking.
The most obvious arc would have her delivering the killing blow to Cersey (along with the two Cleganes duking it out), bringing her revenge arc to an end. And TBH, albeit predictable, this would have been perfectly satisfying. So, why couldn´t we have at least THAT?
The problem with DnD isn´t that they didn´t put enough "effort" into the story. The problem is that they put *too much* effort into "SuBvEArTiNG EXSpacTaciOns" until they flipped everything around and nothing made sense anymore.
- Arya killing Cersei? Nah, too obvious.
- Arya becoming a white walker (or suffering some other gruesome fate)? Sounds like a classic GoT shock moment. But aren´t fans expecting stuff like that as well?
- So, what if Arya, like, kills the ACTUAL NIGHT KING mid-season and like, ummm... does fuck nothing after that? OMG, that´s perfect! No one will ever expect that! Mission accomplished boys!
What hurt the most besides watching the Night King being gutted by Aria who had absolutely no relation to that storyline rather than having Jon Snow and the Night King facing off in a 1-on-1 desperate final battle with the rest of Westeros being completely overrun by Wights, (As the Night King Invasion of Kings Landing is what the Final Two Episodes SHOULD have been about instead of a pointless squabble between Dany and Cersei) was seeing Jon, Tyrion, Varys and Jamie all being Jake Skywalker’d one by one within the span of a few episodes.
It would have fit if Theon arose an slayed the night king.
It was set up for him.
What's dead may never die.
Rises up an slays the beast.
Yet rises
Its like if stars remade old palpatine oringinal death and made it so Lando sneaked into Death Star and shot palpatine dead and ,Darth Vader and Luke are just standing there
Oh yeah. And how did you like Aria stating she was staying in Winterfell, only for her to leave during the very same episode towards King's Landing?
yeah it made no sense for her to be the one to kill the Night King. I wonder if that is really how it happens in the books.. it seems so dumb that I can't believe GRRM would write it that way.
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fix this
It's funny how GOT was everywhere, then the last season came and ended everything. Now it's rare to see a poster or GOT merchandise in stores.
HBO are still trying to milk it with like 5 spin offs in the works.
@@vortigern7021 oh god no...
@@vortigern7021 yeah that's not going to go well...
"Hey guys... remember that show we got you invested in for years then fucked you over in the last few weeks?...
Well we have more of that coming for years if you're interested in wasting more time"
@@vortigern7021 A spinoff I might watch. A prequel? Hell no
@@vortigern7021 They sure as fudge seem to enjoy losing money
Then House of the Dragon comes along and just... absolutely blows us away. Game of Thrones is GOOD again...
"The Drinker Fixes... Game of Thrones"
"I can't"
* 10 minutes of circus music.
Mixed in with "fuck off show"
@@LimerickWarrior1 “Now go away!”
@@tjlevey378 *go away now
And Tyrion barfing
Good joke, Leeloo laughs, roll on snare drum, curtains....
Congratulations Criticaldrinker for creating a intelligent and sensible ending for a show we loved
Indeed
Bran didn’t even show up for a whole season, yet he becomes the new king of Westeros 😂
He might have been the most useless character.
It should've beem Jon. What do they say a lot very early in the show? The one who doesn't want to rule usually should. That's Jon. He doesn't want to be King, but he's good at it. Bran had potential, but his character arc was butchered and I hated how he just went emotionless all of a sudden.
Not "useless" necessarily. Without Bran, knowledge of R+L=J would have died with Ned in Season 1. I personally would nominate Rickon for Most Useless Character, hopefully he at least serves as a Stark rallying point in the books.
Yeah, the Bran story really should have ended with the revelation that his time travelling caused the Mad King to go crazy and stockpile wildfire, and that his time travelling caused him to become the Night King.
What makes even less sense is Sansa (terrible character anyway) deciding to secede from the Seven Kingdoms. Why? Bran is a Stark, you’d think the North more than any other kingdom would be fine with him as King of Westeros.
Pretty decent fix, I give it 8/10 and considering what you had to work with that's impressive
The Jamie Queenslayer thing, stopping Cersie from repeating the madness of the previous king is EXACTLY what I always thought was going to happen. It made so much sense! Instead they died having a cuddle under some rubble. Ridiculous. And also, well done for pointing out that while D&D completely messed up, the real problem lies with Martin and his complete abdication of any responsibility. Years ago he admitted in an interview that he had no idea how to finish the story as he had too many characters and plots going on, so there's literally zero hope for it ever being finished.
Yeah, it was deeply unsatisfying that Dani suddenly flipped and fell back into justifying the Mad Targaryen Ruler trope she'd been fighting against through the entire series to that point. You could see her engaging in brutality and vengeance, creating the suspense whether she did have the roots of the madness in there, but it was ambiguous and there was enough there to see it as justified and appropriate. Then at the end her brain just let go and she just kind of took over from the night king in the narrative as the simplistic nihilistic evil force bad guy wanting to burn all of humanity... ? After all the death, betrayal and pain she flips because one frizzy haired chick gets killed in front of her?
They didn't even pay homage to the LGBTIQ twit brigade (who police that all the non standard gender and sexuality role boxes ticked) by building some epic unresolved lesbian love story behind her mental devolution
I actually thought that Westeros would have no ruler, and devolve back to separate kingdoms, especially as that seems to be what happens in general.
"... the real problem lies with Martin and his complete abdication of any responsibility. Years ago he admitted in an interview that he had no idea how to finish the story as he had too many characters and plots going on, so there's literally zero hope for it ever being finished." Too true.
This happened to another beloved series of mine, namely the Honor Harrington universe. When the story was really just about Captain Honor Harrington, her ship and her command, or maybe even just her at squadron-level command, the writing was tight and consistent, with characters that we could remember without referring to the series' wiki. When the author David Weber kept expanding the cast of characters out and included side stories that somehow tied back into the main plot it got messy as all hell.
Then there's the fact that the main character was supposed to die in combat and the story was going to pick up again 20 or 30 standard years later with her children, but instead Weber kept Honor alive and thus had to condense the plot back to somehow make it work in an increasingly muddled mess. Apparently he kept her alive because he was afraid that the fans would come after him with pitchforks for killing off Honor. This in a book series that routinely killed off main characters as a matter of course.
Plus the Big Bad changed to a completely inept, horribly corrupt, technologically and militarily backwards Solarian League with a bad case of "Not invented here so it must not exist" syndrome. Ugh. What a fracking mess.
There's a reason that I say that the Honorverse got a case of the George R. R. Martin Disease. When your cast of characters is so large that you need something similar to a DnD character sheet just to keep it all straight and you have dozens of plot points it just makes for a confusing mess in which the writing suffers.
Hence the reason why I suspect Martin trial ran an idea for an ending with the series to see how it would be received.
"Isn't perfect", You had a better grasp on the series overall than everyone on the production staff! Your version takes care of tall the characters in satisfying ways and ties up all loose ends!!! I would buy your book in a heartbeat!
Having bought his book(s) they are well worth the investment, even having them shipped internationally.
yeah that's all true, but it still isn't perfect
@@yourmum69_420 Compared to what we got, it's sweet perfection.
All of these ideas were espoused for 2 years on reddit by the Freefolk!
Every single fan fix I've seen or read has been better than what we got.
Agreed. I've seen many videos on YT rewriting the ending, and most of them were really creative and more importantly, satisfying.
The showrunners didn't give a damn because they were hungry for Disney's Star Wars money.
@@pilouuuu the only solace we get is that D&D’s failure here cost them the money they lusted after
Great Fixes!! I can't believe how perfectly Jamie's arc fits into place in your version. As soon as you hear it, you think, "Of course! They were laying the groundwork for this all along!" Brann's new storyline is incredibly inventive and surprising, but totally works. Arya's would've been painful to watch, but retains the tension for her character far better than "exploring the world." Well done. Thanks! I'll think of your fixes next time around.
I’ve never seen Game Of Thrones.. So as it stands, I am one of the few that is lucky enough to have this version be the ONLY version that exists in my head. I don’t plan to change that. Thank you!
The first 4 seasons are some of the best TV ever.
Lucky bastard.
I came up with my own storyline, but I get your sentiment.
just watch up until season 7
my nerd advice : read the books. far more rewarding and less disappointing.
This version is now canon in my eyes
Same here 😂
Damm, Dany dodging the bolt in the last second killing the undead dragon and Euron with the same blow is pretty fucking brilliant
Wow!!! That was intense! That's the ending I wanted!
Creating a plausible, coherent, and believable story in ten minutes, when not even the writers could do it in 2 years. Bravo, good sir!
Imagine gathering all of the heroes, white walkers, and magical swords in one place and not having them fight.
*just standing around looking at each other and shrugging their shoulders then wandering off leaving a bunch of paper plates and red solo cups everywhere*
Ah, but see... you _expected_ that! The fact we didn't do it means we win!
@@OsirisZero lmao!!! 👌!
Just imagine if the 5 armies in The Hobbit, when they gathered on battlefield chose instead to stop, sing kumbya, & share the dwarves gold equally with one another. THAT, would have been a better ending, than what we got during the last season of GoT.
I think the Drinker Fixes series is your best work. Any asshole can tear something down and complain about the things that should have been better, but actually creating something good is infinitely more difficult. Your fixes for Luke Skywalker, Rey, Finn and Fat Thor are the reason I subscribed to this channel and started reading the Ryan Drake series. I appreciate your work, Drinker.
I'm not gonna lie. This ending sounded wayyyy more satisfying than what we got.
After watching this video, seriously? They should've hired you as the showrunner of the final season. Everything you came up with makes sense, it serves the way the characters are/were portraied. S8 would've been a success. And for the other, supporting characters - well, they would've been the jobs of the screenwriters under your supervision. And yes, I mean this.
literally a random fanfic from a fanfic forum would have been better then the show. They could have went story shopping on the internet and it would have been much better. No Dnd desided in their coke adled mind that this is genius and will cement us as the greaterst writters of all time and we gonna make 100 mil each on each of those awesome star wars movies we wanted to make since we were little kids.
Yup, Drinker's rough sketch may be flaky but it's still one hell of a lot better than the actual output.
EDIT: maybe 10-15 years from now, when computer-aided photo-quality VR illustration has become the norm, someone will redraft the GoT ending using Drinker's plot mapping. And I'll enjoy watching it.
Except we'll both probably die from liver cancer shortly thereafter and won't be capable of discussing the excellent results!
I like the assessment of G.R.R. Martin's massive role in this disaster. I've been saying the similar for years, especially as someone who read all five books (and loved them) before the first episode even premiered. He let his fans down tremendously, and holds the lion share of blame for letting his own story wither and die this sad flop of a death.
I've also read his books, and one of my biggest pet peeves is when people say, "just enjoy what he HAS written, he doesn't owe us anything else!" Yes, yes he does. I would never buy half a story. His fans made him wealthy because he promised them a saga. If he dies before finishing the story, he cheated us all into buying half of a story. You've taken my money, TELL THE BLOODY STORY!
That is what i always say.
@@Lawrence330 I was reading them then stopped when I realized he was stalling for years already with no sign of releasing the next one. That was years ago and we're in the same spot. Why would I invest the hours and days into thousands of pages that will never reach resolution?
@@sublimechimp you should pick the books back up again solely because of the pleasure when reading them. It might not have an ending now or ever but they are 150% worth the read. Infinitely better than the show and one of the best series ever made.
if the show at least would have had some sort of half fiished version of Winds around season 6 they would have had more of a throughtline and might have been able to kinda produce a more convincing end. But GRRM prob hasnt written anything between dance and the corona outbreak for winds. I mean FFS we were confident back in the day winds would come soon due to him having a lot of material on the backburner that was cut from Dance. He went into the book with like having at least 20 chapters already written (what we know from the fucking 10 year old "preview" chapters. Thats like 25% of the book already done. Then during Lockdown finally he starts writting again and says he made big advances. Then a few months ago the news of him not brining as much to paper as the year before. Likely due to him beeing distracted by helping Hbo with those worthless prequeal shit and him getting distracted by god damn everything again.
He really should just admid he doesnt like writting anymore and wants to retire. Better then him stringing us along. He will die far before hes gonna be finished with Winds and then we will get a halfbacked realease of his material showing he has written like 10 chapters across those 10 years. Its just pathetic.
Jon Repeating: "She's my Queen!" the whole season, might have just been well be repeating: "Hodor, Hodor." the whole season!
That and "I don't want it"
8 Seasons of blunt Trash
and Sex;
to make the Fans believe its 7 Good Seasons.
And the worst thing: It f-ing worked.
God, i hate modern times.
GOT is a true example for bad quality being
viewed in all legit Truthness as Good.
Wow.
@@slevinchannel7589 why is it bad? if there are tities it means a show is "8 seasons of blunt trash and sex"?
Best description of Jon in 8 season is a simp. I'm sorry, I just can't ignore the parallel.
@@slevinchannel7589 The first 4 or so seasons were pretty good though. It started dropping in quality when the Dorne plot was introduced and it was mostly downhill from there, though there were still some good moments until the end of season 7. Season 8 was trash. So the show wasn't all bad.
One thing i love about your version is how Jaime is the one to kill Cersei, from the moment Jaime confessed to Brienne about why he killed the Aerys. i always thought he will be the one to kill Cersei, it would've been so poetic, and i would also add that Jaime either kills himself or get killed by the mountain, since he told Tyrion he wants to die in the arms of the woman he loves
"jon exiled to the north for the heinous crime of saving the entire world"
Hey, that is the most realistic part of the show.
Authorities getting rid of people who do a better job than them
Except that with the Wall breached, the Others defeated and the Wildlings being integrated into the North, what is the purpose of the Night's Watch? Also what authorities? With Cercei dead Jon and Dany are the authorities in King's Landing. Between them they command the only remaining armies outside of Dorne.
To be fair on the writers, this might have been in character for him. He wasn't so much exiled as cleared of all his obligations, and told to go North and live in peace with his wildling friends and his very good doggy.
@@Codraroll This. It wasn't a punishment or exile, but a reward. Jon never wanted to be King of Westeros, he just wanted to be a Northman.
This hurt more than it had to. 2020 was the year of the big lie...
@@bluemountain4181 didnt varis say "power resides where people believe it resides"?
Queen of the iron fleet, chosen leader of the unsullied... quite a few of influential figures whose decision the people are willing follow.
That makes them authority.
Jaime pushing Bran out the window in Season 1 was actually an act of public service.
You know what?? Just hit me that Bran survived the fall BECAUSE JAMIE USED HIS LEFT HAND!! It was foreshadowing his losing his right & how ineffective he was with the left--too bad he didn't turn more & do the job properly
@@Sure0Foot a big run up also wouldnt of hurt😂😂
After the Night King survived a blast of dragon fire to the face, the only satisfying conclusion in my mind was for him to just kill everyone. He earned it.
Would be great but the writers didnt have the balls to do that
Yeah, I would have been happy with the Night King kills everyone in Westeros ending over what actually happened in the show.
That's how I thought it should end. Humans fighting over the throne that in the end is destroyed by the white walkers. The shows ends with winter covering all of Westeros and most of the main characters dead.
And then the final shot is just a pan-out from The Night King sitting on the iron throne, in the endless winter.
(a copy-paste from Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne ending cinematic, but cool nonetheless).
Speaking of The Lich King, I always thought Jon would kill The Night King and then after seeing that the undead still run wild he realises that "there must always be a night king to control them" and plunges the Night King's obsidian shard into his own heart, becoming the actual-true-king in the nord....and Dany, representing fire, the Queen in the south -> Fire & Ice.
The easiest ending to develope, for a shocking impact never seen in the history of entertainment. It would have been strange, but not so bad as it has been.
Man your alternate ending is fantastic! I literally just felt the emotional roller coaster it took me on, and I’m genuinely happier about GOT now, just believing that’s how it really ends….thanks for the ride! Cheers!
Anyone else hit the like button about halfway through, and then get to the end when he starts breaking down the way Dan and David's greed and impatience destroyed not just the show but themselves in the process and be like, "I regret that I have but one like to give to my Drinker?"
I always hit the like button for Mr. Drinker before the video even starts playing. Love this guy and his reviews so much. Haha
'There are dozens of other stories and characters that I didnt have time to deal with, otherwise this video would be Three Hours long'
// Mauler has entered the Chat
Mauler's video on this would be 20 hours.
Besides he still needs to finish his 7 part deep analysis of TFA.
@@magic8340 I'll still watch it. His 2hr takedown of captain marvel, aka "Plank", was about a million times better than the movie itself.
That 10 minute reading of an alternate last season made me feel more emotions than the entirety of season 7 and 8 combined.
You had me on the edge with this audiobook adaptation- 100% this would have been better than what we got - not to mention they obviously missed an opportunity with Jaime killing Cerci - easy poetic slam dunk and they dropped the ball
"becoming both a King & Queen Slayer" Yow, that would be a wild twist
Not to mention kin slayer.
It seemed like the most likely outcome
That would be very Game of Thrones.
Jamie Lannister The Crown Breaker
that's how I actually predicted jaime would be after his redemption.
"I hope it was worth it you dicks." So cathartic, thank you Drinker.
i hope he fixes dexter too
That one sentence covers so much.
I thought Aria should have killed Cersi wearing Jamie's face. First Cersi would feel betrayed by her love only to have Aria reveal her identity allowing her to complete her list of people to kill.
Plus that would also deal with Maggie the Frog's prophecy.
I disagree.
Or at least, if in fact revenge was going to be the main motif of Arya, that theme should have been a tragic one, not something the show had to empower.
That's not to say arya shouldn't go through a character arc that focuses on revenge, but rather that it would have been good if she would eventually learn to let go of revenge in favor of consequences. (Example of a lesson she learned in the books: she chose to use her 3 free kills from Ja'qen on some minor characters that had wronged her or those close to her in the past few days. She forgot all about the fact that she could have very easily taken out the mountain, the fort commander, or really anybody in the kingdom that she desired, such as Joffrey Lannister. She blamed herself for her own impulsiveness later on.)
The reason she does her little death list chant is because it's a coping mechanism, taught to her by a former criminal whose only job was to get her from king's landing to the wall. That's not wise advice, and it just turned her into a vicious little sociopath.
Conversely, her meeting up with the Hound is likely intentional. The hound is a character who'se haunted by revenge and by a cynical world-view where "killing is the only thing that matters", while still revealing he once used to be a good man, and has the potential to do good, somewhere still inside him.
Now, in the show, that theme was concluded with, what exactly? The hound telling her "this is not your fight", and then continuing with that idiotic "cleganebowl", which made no sense in terms of his character-arc.
Both the Hound and Arya should have found peace in doing that which is right, rather than being consumed with a quest for vengeance that will just make them feel hollow in the end. Because the show-writers didn't understand this very simple character arc, and didn't understand the consequences of having a CHILD transform into a revenge-seeking psycho, they failed to gave that arc a satisfying conclusion.
"Clegane-bowl" was so insultingly idiotic in every single way other than pure, numbskulled sensationalism, and Arya's character had to suffer from the same internet hype stupidity that D&D were glad to feed and nurture.
Damn, that’s kinda how Internet Historian did it
That seems really one-note though. There weren't any real consequences for Arya's path in life. It's just that she just straight up gets what she wanted in the end.
8 Seasons of blunt Trash
and Sex;
to make the Fans believe its 7 Good Seasons.
And the worst thing: It f-ing worked.
God, i hate modern times.
GOT is a true example for bad quality being
viewed in all legit Truthness as Good.
Wow.
Truly your plot is much better than what we got. No way in hell it would have been worse.
As far as I'm concerned, this is what actually happened. It always made sense to me that in the end Jaime would be the one to kill Cersei. All that time she feared Tyrion would be her end, only for it to be her beloved twin.
Yeah made total sense. Everything from that witches predictions of her future came true, and the final piece was killed by her younger brother. It was mentioned specifically in the books Cersei was the first of the twins to come out. The whole subversion was meant to be it turning out to be Jamie after his epic redemption arc as opposed to Tyrion
I don't know. Jaime has been stabbing Cersei for years, and still hadn't killed her.
Directors of GoT never had any intention of giving justice to characters or to story. They nly wanted to make story which we fans were not expecting to end it in that way.
Now I accept that's canon ending for GoT.
It's canon if the video gets hit with a copyright claim.
It is kinda nuts that the place called Winterfell doesn't fall to winter, and the place called King's Landing is never visited by the Night King.
It's called Winterfell because 'winter' falls there, not because it falls to 'winter'. King's Landing was named because it was where Aegon the Conqueror first set foot on mainland Westeros when his invasion began.
Here was me thinking they would have the White Walkers and the winter get as far as Starfall or Oldtown far to the South before Jon Snow uses the sword called Dawn to end the new Long Night. Nah, that would’ve been too cool.
@@Ammoniumbicarbonat lmfao so you follow Alt Shift X too
@@ShanghaiRooster it's called dramatic irony, and it doubles as a tool used by writers as a form of foreshadowing
@@dianabandicoot you mean he read the books?
This is an official request to have the 3 hour extended version of this video
I have the strangest feeling that if they offered the actors the chance to reshoot the last season with competent writers, they’d all be on board.
#SavetheGotverse
Nah, that final season is like Pripyat. It will forever stand as a monument to the hubris and folly of fools.
Some would, but most of them gave like a decade of their life for this shit show and probably just want it to be over.
@@wafflingmean4477 They didn't "GIVE" it, they were paid to do a job, few if any of them have "fuck you" money, and if offered another big paycheck, would most likely gladly accept.
they would need to redo more than just the last season to fix the series
That awkward moment when you realize that all they had to do to make a decent ending to the story was to hire a drunken Scot and pay him in lap dances and Jack Daniels. Great stuff Drinker.
"Otherwise this video would be 3 hours long" We patiently await that video
Word!
"Well??? WE'RE WAITING!"
My God Drinker pass the absinthe you've nailed it.
Daenerys: “I am going to break the wheel.”
“Let’s wheel in Bran the Broken for this one.”
Yeah, what "story"? Considering his arc was the one I usually skipped through to go to the more interesting parts, him being King was a major let down, especially for that reason.
That part about Bran and the Night King being one spirit was one serious mind blow. Surprised that no one's mentioned it in the comments.
This. That part of the video actually gave me some chills, no pun intended. That would have been so heartbreaking seeing as how Jon and Bran were connected since the very first chapter in the books. Watching Jon have to put several members of his beloved family down would have been nails in the heart. Meanwhile, Dany is also losing her most precious companions, people she considers her found family. Jesus though the Bran part of this...bravo, Drinker. This is my new ending for GOT.
That is quite old theory thats been going around and maybe even close what GRRM is/was planning. Well maybe not, but its definently not Drinker who came up it first. D&D however wanted Arya to be the one killing the night king because they thought everyone liked Arya so much.
@@tabull8180 Oh yes, I am well aware of the theory. I tend to agree with it myself, but I wasn't sure how it would/could pan out. I love the way Drinker wraps it up here. If it is indeed what has happened to Bran in the show, they buried the lead so much that it was lost. We'll see what Martin does, if he ever gets there.
Well, i love the drinker, but maybe no one pays that much attention to that part because that was one of the leading fan theories going around.
@@jorgeinojosa8792 Yes, but what makes that part of the video special, imo, is Drinker takes that leading theory and builds an actual scene around the resolution of it. It doesn't jump the shark and It has emotional impact that far exceeds anything the real finale had. The believability within the narrative works, and the payoff feels incredibly moving. Ive seen people discuss the theory with rather silly outcomes/reasons. This is the first time I've see it actually work incredibly well.
"... becoming both a king and a queen slayer." Gave me goosebumps.
I’ve never watched the show, but same.
Depending on the execution of the concept this could be great! It would be a tragic end to Jamie's character arc - certainly more satisfying than what we got.
A full circle for his character. Brilliant.
Or as he was also known... the Kweengslayer.
Equality.
That was awesome. I especially like the part where bran serves a purpose
Drinker's Daenerys: Maybe the real kingdom is the friends we made along the way
Indeed, but then again, Daenarys always was a modern woman very much focused on what she felt she was entitled to...
An entitled, self-righteous woman who demands a land she has never been too is hers, under a culture she has never been part of. And who enjoys burning people in her constant search for "justice." That kind of person would never change her desire for what she believes is hers.
@@als3022 Exactly. While I appreciate the Drinker trying to revise it, this is ultimately how the character was going to end up. It was just rushed and done so poorly, so it left a bad taste in people's mouths, making some people wish none of it ever happened. There are however those people who did mistakenly idolize the character and see her as some female Jesus girl boss, thinking she was the kind of person who would end up being everyone's hero.
The skeleton of the end of Daenerys' story is I think how Martin intended it to be. Her actions in the end weren't bad writing, it was all foreshadowed. It's just that the events building up to it were terrible writing.
@@4u5t Pretty much my thoughts. Everyone saying "Oh this isn't where her arc was going." Haven't been paying attention. The road to it got full of rocks and feces, but it's the direction it was going. I was predicting it around Season 5. And so were alot of others.
Never understood the Dany fans. "OH she is good?" Yeah no one that self-righteous and bloodthirsty is going to be the hero. To be honest most "corrections" are giving Dany a happy ending.
@@als3022 She does not enjoy burning people. Her empathy with the common folk is real. Burning the commoners of Kings Landing is not in her character. Thems the facts. A misplaced sense of rightiousness and stubborness are her flaws.
Season 7 set everything up for a redemption arc for Daenerys. Everything felt forced in the other direction in season 8. It would be a much shorter leap if all that had happened to her lead her to the conclusion that she is the one who dUn wAn iT.
Drinker's edit makes so much sense that HBO and show directors will ignore it.
And the show is gone, that's probably a big motivator.
Dude, your fix just gave me chills. That season 8 sounds infinitely better.
Mfer says “it wasn’t perfect” but proceeded to come up with an absolute banger of a pitch, Jamie becoming the “queen slayer” while also fulfilling Cersei’s prophecy was just a goddamn chef’s kiss! Bravo Drinker
Alternate resolution to the Hound's story:
He ventures into the Red Keep, searching for Gregor, and finds his brother already half dead, pinned beneath a ton of rubble that fell on him. In that moment, he sees his brother for the wretch he always has been, and with disgust realizes that he's been wasting his life chasing a dream of revenge against an inhuman abomination. He throws down his sword, turns around, and walks away, off to salvage what meaning he can from the time he has left.
He's already tried renouncing violence and living a peaceful life. It did not end well.
Yes, but I interpreted that as him running from his anger instead of dealing with it. In the scenario I described, he would be facing his feelings directly and fully letting go.
the hound vs the mountain was the only moment i felt something on season 8
I never got the sense, anywhere in the show, that the Hound's main beef with life was his brother. There's so many better things they could have done with his character than a one-on-one final confrontation with his brother. It felt fan-fed and cliche.
@@marcmarc1967 The Clegane-bowl was definitely fan fed.
The link between Bran and the night king was touched upon in the series. Too bad they abandoned it.
He literally touched him and made a scar. How can u abandon such an character curve
I've never seen such a popular Fandom get broken so fast
When the show was at it's height I was getting sick of it, it was all anyone spoke about. After the final season that stopped, over night.
Broken indeed.
You mean besides Star Wars getting broken by The Last Jedi?
Ever heard of Star Wars? XDDDDD
@@jonathanryan9946 TFA killed it for me immediately. I haven’t even seen the other two
@@srijansrivastava1661 Star Wars? What's Star Wars?
(It's like a great part of my memory suddenly screamed and died)