A Brand New Type of MTB Pedal... Made of Rubber - 9Point8's New INVRS Pedal System Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
- 9point8 INVRS review. It's opposite day at 9point8 with the INVRS pedals. They've put the sticky rubber on the pedals and spikey pins on your shoes. The idea is to offer more traction when walking off road, and avoid nasty pedal gashes on your shins. Today we take it to the trail to test it out and see what it's like. Say thanks and support this channel: buymeacoffee.c...
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Two things:
1) Use discount code "HTP15" for 15% off the invrs system
2) Just like stealth rubber, the rubber on these shows marks after a ride. I haven't spent enough time to know how long the pads will last, but i assume it'll be similar to most sticky shoe soles. I think it's great that they're replaceable, I hope it's an easy process.
The rubber used is a proprietary slow-rebound rubber similar to that used on premium flat pedal shoes like FiveTens to achieve the maximum grip possible. Like rubber on each other, so your FiveTen shoes on the pedals, as you found, isn't great for grip and neither rubber was developed for max grip on anything but studs, but a shoe with a more aggressive tread pattern will likely work a bit better, but for any trail riding, studs is highly recommended.
Videos/instructions for changing out the pads will be out soon. It will be peeling/cutting off the rubber on the pedals, sanding, cleaning and then gluing on new pads. Some whos a bit handy should be able to do it without too much trouble.
Peeps who like to go barefoot on their townie bikes. Beginners. Clipless riders scared of shredding their shins on flat pedals... lot's of people would benefit from this.
13:31 Vibram offers new soles and resoling service for mtb shoes. I did it to my favourite pair of Five ten freeride pro a few months ago and I like them more than the stock rubber
Thanks for the info, as several pair of 5/10 Cross Trail 1/4 top that are not produced anymore.
Came in thinking this was a dumb idea, left thinking it was a great idea. I got big brained!
I like the recessed spikes idea. 💡
I went fat biking with a guy this weekend that had these.
He put studs in his boots.
He seemed to like them
The Ice Road Challenge by chance?
Yes and yes. Skyler is a fast, tough rider.
I like being barefoot, i usually ride my bike to the forest to train parkour, or do photography, etc., this pedal would be a great option for me to leave the shoes at home.
However, spikes on the shoes is a really dangerous solution for rocky terrain. Even the SPD clip can slip on smooth surfaces, any dab or hike-a-bike can turn into a slippery slide with metal on the soles
I have been riding these pedals for 4 years now as part of the product development riders, and my favourite rides are exploring rocking back country trails which included hike a bike over rocks. I've never had a problem with grip on rocks, though that said, it may depend on roughness and hardness of the rocks. Polished granite may not be great, but most natural rocks that have some roughness to then the grip if adequate to hike a bike. The tips of the carbide studs aren't that big so they can latch pretty well.
I've been riding SPDs since switching from clips and straps back in the early 90s... I have a pair of Chesters, but flats with spikey spikes still terrify me so I appreciate what 9point8 is doing here.
Hah came in here thinking this looked bad but it solves some problems. Probably top tier for winter.
I'd be interested to try it. Definitely would put it on my gravel bike or hardtail
Steve, Thanks for the review! I just ordered a set of pendulum pedals from outliermtb ….this is also a new idea for flats, maybe these two concept could be married for the ultimate flat pedal system. Bring it on, cheers!
Huh, I've always wanted a set of studded shoes I could wear when fat biking. That'd be something to do with my clip shoes since I moved back to flats.
cold weather would also be a worst condition scenario as the rubber will get hard from the cold. I do think it is a great idea.
Really digging the creativity here.... my current favorite is the Deity Supervillain... I'm going to join the party with giving the Outlier Pendulum pedals a chance at the top spot
Pretty cool inverse thinking!
I love wearing trail shoes (Altra Lone Peak since I have wide feet) with a carbon fiber insert and flat pedals… Pedaling Innovations specifically. Didn’t for the BC Bike race and work great!
I love scientific reviews. Great job. From our experience more studs equals more grip even if you are a lighter rider. Also, a more compliant sole will offer a bit more grip than a stiff sole. Note that for the SPD cleat, you can also put in a few screw in studs if you desire to compliment the studs in the cleat. You mention in your review that you prefer a locked in feel with no float. With the screw in studs, you can control that by choosing where to stud. Studs concentrated in the center will offer more float than towards the perimeter.
Super interesting.
I get the concern about not being able to walk around with your spiked up shoes but the flipside is that you have a pedal platform that's more chill. For me I ride greens and blues on a gravel bike that's also my commuter. For me I'd be able to whack on the spikey shoes and ride trails with much more traction and then put on hard soled workboots, leathersoled dress shoes, cowboy boots, barefoot whatever without having to swap out the pedals.
This would also be great in a smaller platform for kids' mtbs!
A kids version is being planned. We think a perfect match.
Hey Steve, you mentioned 5/10s being a little tight in the toe box. Are you wearing the Pros or the regular Freeride? I have both I I find the regular Freeride to have a wider toe box
Very interesting idea. I feel like I might get too into the weeds regarding exactly where I would install the pins into my shoes. This would probably cause me to install and reinstall to "optimize" placement.
I picked these up last week and spent 8+ hours on them already. I changed my mind about which boots to stud. They came out fine and didn't damage the sole. And yes, I spent a bit too much time trying to figure out where to put the studs, but in the end I don't think it mattered that much.
Super comfy and grip was fantastic.
I even did a townie ride with boots without studs and even with some snow on the pedals, they worked great.
These could be great for fat biking on ice! I’m wondering if the SPD mount would fit in 45NRTH fat bike boots that have a removable cut out already
We need more Fatbike content from HP
on the way...
@@BigBrainPartycome to Duluth, MN, I’d love to show you around!
@ajdgx2 I'd love to ride there one day
I'm not convinced having studs on your shoes would be any better than a cleat when you're off the bike, especially indoors, as they'll still mark delicate floors and cause issues if used on hard floors (a bit like using studded tyres on the road when there's no snow, I suspect they won't provide as much grip and might tear themselves out of the sole).
When it comes to damaging your shins, I can see it being a benefit but pedal strikes still hurt even if they don't shred you shin so I usually wear shin-pads anyway.
Personally I think the best use-case for these would be for real Winter conditions where there is ice about and you want to have grip while hike-a-biking. The caveats above still apply but they would definitely be better than any other shoe/pedal option while outdoors with the bike.
The original idea for these pedals was a better winter pedal system, but we discovered that they also work well in the other seasons. I terms of walking on things like your hardwood floors in your house, how many people walk over these floors with even their traditional flat pedal shoes, or SPD shoes? The focus is on how they work when riding.
@@jackpittens796 That's all fair. We have a mixture of tiled floors and carpets in my home, both of which are fine with normal (flat pedal) shoes. I wouldn't wear clipless shoes on the tiles but would on the carpet, at least when I first walk in the door (depends how muddy my shoes are of course).
What an interesting idea. I have scabs on my right shin and left calf right now from pedal hits. Im going to try these too. Did you go with the short or long studs?
I used the short studs for my shoes. If you have thick soles then the long pins will be even better. But I found the short pins to be plenty for my needs
The intent is the short studs are meant for most summer shoe applications and the long studs are meant for boots, but if the longer studs will fit in the thickness of your shoe sole, the longer protrusion of the long studs will also offer a bit more grip.
My shins don't feel anything anymore 😂😂 I think this is a interesting idea but winter ice and mud mixed might make them less effective.
Interesting! Thanks for the Video!
they make carbide tipped trekking poles now? mine are only tungsten
5:15 I'm curious about saddles you've used in sub zero temps, as I'm looking into saddles I could use in temps like that.
This might be worth making a video on.
I have Fabric Scoop Shallow race, Ergon SM Enduro Pro, both are comfortable in higher + temps, but very harsh in -10C, even in -1C.
This is a really interesting idea!
I switched to clips because of shin injury due to pins.
I'd be really interested in trying them.
As a side note I'd be really interested in you reviewing the pendulum pedals from outlier. They are also a very different approach to pedals.
I've been in contact with outlier. Hoping to get a set in soon
@@BigBrainParty I'm wondering how well they self right in cold temperatures.
It’s practically impossible to injure yourself on pins .. your tibia is way stronger than that. Even when you hit it hard enough to go into the bone and have to pull it out it’s not a proper injury
I wonder how grippy these pedals will be on the rock when I pedal strike…
Are they lite?
Which 5 tens are you comparing them to ? If they are Recent since adidas took over then the rubber is terrible anyway - nothing like the old stealth vx compound
Pinion Smartshift update when? 🙂
These pedals look like all the pedals I saw when I was a kid. I didn't see metal pedals until I was 15 years old. It seems like a very old idea. Are people really unaware of this? The cleats, however, do look new.
Having studs I can't remove isn’t possible for me, as I need to be able to walk into a store, I will be kicked out with studs on my shoes.
And flip out soles on winter boots isn’t for me, I rather have soles I can strap onto any shoes that fit me.
Already moved on from these, a few (quite a few!) decades ago. Had them on my Triang kids tricycle.
These would go great with my aluminium shoes
just when you thought they've thought of everything....
Vibram has been making rubber pedals for a long time...
Isn’t that a novel idea, you put the spikes on your SHOES! and not the pedals 🤯😂 We already have special riding shoes too, so why not have spikes on them…
Hmmmmm, how about magnetic pedals?
My wife and bro-in law have been running the Rev-Tech magnetic pedals for about 3 years now. The magnets are extremely strong. There is a very noticeable difference over flat pedals. You can still easily take your foot off the pedals, you use the same technic as clipless. You can still slip a pedal on them as well as get bounced out of them, but it is a much rarer occurrence. Downsides they are extremely heavy, as well as a bit pricey. The mag-peds are lighter, but offer minimal magnetic strength in comparison. If you do not mind the weight and our looking for a bit more connection to the bike and just do not want to run clipless, they are a very good option.
underneath the rubber? sounds good.
I've been curious to try those for a while. The magnet isn't really meant to keep your foot attached, it just helps you locate your foot on the pedal in your favorite position
Learn to crank flip pedals right there
Interesting concept, bad idea.
Ha yes - I switched to flats for bikepacking so I didn't have bits of metal sticking out of the soles of my shoes - and hence only need one pair of shoes for trains, restuarants, hotels etc
explain...
@@BigBrainParty It will have limited marketability and demand. I enjoy riding my bike on the trail and then being able to walk into a coffee shop or restaurant. Or run an errand at the store afterwards. With these shoes I'll have to bring an extra pair of shoes, take them off at the trail then put on my other shoes before I get in my car because I don't want those shoes messing up my interior. It's an impractical answer that will solve a problem for a small audience. Perhaps someone who lives in the snow and would like the additional traction while walking around certain terrain, but again, it hardly makes sense even at that.
@@GF-cb8rrmaybe they are going to sell stick on pads for car pedals as well ?? ;)
Same as you though I usually wear my shoes to a pub, coffee or just the supermarket on the way home and rarely change.
My wife is Asian so no shoes get worn inside, period. So that's not a problem. Therefore the only competition for these would be how the spikes handle normal hiking, or hike-a-bike, while out bikepacking. I think there's potential. Esp if the rubber on the pedals is just grippy enough to keep traction with normal day shoes when I'm bike commuting the rest (or rather, majority) of the time.