You already know why though, and you do not actually love the pricing as it sits. Snark harder tho fr fr. Reason: Low volume. Niche uptake. High tooling costs. ITX cases would be a lot cheaper if they moved ATX volume.
I know they cram a lot more stuff into itx boards but I feel like I’m getting shortchanged with a smaller board compared to matx/atx. I lose two memory slots and maybe a pcie slot but I have to pay more?
I have been running essentially the same exact system for about 8 months now. So, in case any of you are trying to recreate this build, I have the following tips for you: - I‘d suggest swapping out the AIO fans to something a bit more premium. I am using two Be Quiet Silent Wings Pro 4 in the high speed setting. The original Cooler Master fans can be a bit whiny and one of my fans actually had a slight wobble on its motor, which created additional noise - add some 120 mm slim fans to the bottom as intake. Helped dropping my GPU temps to below 68 C at all times - create some custom fan curves, as the standard fan curves on motherboards are way to aggressive for the otherwise fantastic cooling potential of this case
If you want to keep those $300 savings and still go for a small build you can just build in the Sama IM01 case ($59.92). This case is barely bigger than the NR200 and it allows for micro-atx motherboards, full ATX power supplies, big air coolers, and inverted builds. Edit: Also allows for easy inverted builds.
I have one of the clones of the Sama IM01 (Pichau HX100) with a 5800X3D, RX 6800, ATX non-modular PSU, B450 m-atx and thermalright pa120. All that with the inverted layout (to avoid dust buildup on the bottom of the PC where its harder to clean without moving it) and I couldnt be happier with the case choice
They're interesting but not so much a challenge, even in the past (when HDD's had to be used) - you've already committed to small form factor. The only minor consideration is the GPU (on size and performance), but manufacturers already have you covered here. The other consideration is in the CPU+CPU cooler, and there's plenty low profile coolers out there. The big plus today is that you don't need HDD's - the size saving here is significant. Other than that, keep the inside tidy for airflow. Mini ITX is much more of a challenge! But remember, manufacturers have been supplying the 'HTPC build' for years (thus lots of component choices), a build you'd normally keep under your TV in the living room...so needs to be quiet. I've build a fair few over the years. Still, always good to see what can be done today.
I love my NR200 build. Worth noting that the NR200 (Non-P or Max) can be had for much less (mine was $20 after sale and rebate). Fits a 280mm AIO just fine and a 4080 FE.
I built in the good old SG13 since the NR200P would be too big for my TV stand (It's a HTPC/emulation build). The build costed around £900 but I did get a couple of good deals. It has a 12100, ROG Strix B660-I - this DDR5 board only costed me £160 at the time. I put in a used 3060 Ti and an SP750 since the SF750 was considerably more expensive. It runs RPCS3 and everything else like a dream and I can watch whatever I like.
@@BlockButton I've used AMD and Nvidia and I can say without any biases that Nvidia is better in so many ways. But if you're an AMD fanboy and all you care about is price, then go with the cheap trash that AMD pumps out. There's a reason Nvidia is more expensive, because it's a better product and people are willing to pay more for it. Their drivers and software are unstable and not good for gamers. Big tech youtubers won't tell you this because they are being paid by sponsors/aren't actual gamers (like me). I have built many computers with every brand, my last build was 4090 + 13900k and I haven't looked back.
The RTX 4090 here in Canada goes for around $2300, and that's the cheapest model available. I recently built my own system, with the 7800X3D and 7900 XTX, for a total of $2500, and that includes all the components. Yes, the 4090 is faster than the 7900 XTX, but it's really not a huge difference, especially when you can build an entire 7900xtx SYSTEM for just 200-300 more than the price of a single 4090.
Well, I just built a new AM5 pc in a full size case. More my style as I like open loop systems. Next build will be a steampunk theme full size build again. I ran an ITX pc while in the corps, but if I ever do that again it will be highly dependent on the case and the purpose of it. I mean, technically I'm going to be working on an ITX rig but it's a NAS so I don't count it.
Just built my grandson a mini-itx system, first time in 15years so a little struggle! Used an Asus board with rear nvme socket, doesn't fit a nano torrent!
I have used the same case for my build, with a ryzen 9 7900 asus gforce 4070 ti tuf and asus stirx mother board, I repleced the AIO fans with Noctua ones and I have added two additional slim fans below the graphic cards. The case is a headache for buidling, specially for connecting fan cables... the space is so tight and any misatke can lead to a lot of rework... the case is not deep enough to accomodate most of 4080 but honesty these cards got riducously huge. Once built this is a master piece, it runs really quite and cool, i find it amazing how much power you can pack in such small form factor. The other main issue I had is that the strix mother board comes with a single cpu and a single chssis fun connection, I wish they diteched the led strip connections for more fan headers, or better off come with a universal connection that can be used for both fans and addressable RGB.
@ 16:30 ish, speaking of those manufacturer plastic clips- the tension screw holds the Cooler to the CPU, I had the clips of those break, using factory AMD cooler, on my 2nd PC, a Phenom2. Luckily the CPU shut down during POST- and my solution was to lay my PC on its side and let gravity hold the cooler down, until I found a replacement clip at FRY's Electronics (This was before 2010) Ever since then one of the features I look for in an AIO is having a 4 post hold down (not a stirrup using tension)
My wife has been jealous of my tiny ITX system using the CM NR200P Max and we are looking to build her a new system almost identical to this system here using her very own CM NR200P Max. Only difference was Gigabyte card and Samsung drives.
I have these exact core components. 7800X3D, 7900XT, and 32GB 6000MT/s CL30. Only difference is I went full ATX and boy is it big, but cheaper actually. Closing thought saying the bigger size is cheaper is actually true because I pieced mine together for just over $1700. SUPER solid components. I would definitely recommend this combo for anybody who's got a bit of experience, or wants to upgrade their system.
Would recommend the 7900xt. Just upgraded to it from a 2080 super last week and everything running buttery smooth. Was gaming on lower settings at 4k/1440p and now running all 4k.
ITX has been my go to form factor for over a decade now a I’m happy to pay a small premium for this for factor as I love having more desk space with a tiny case than no desk space with a massive pc case that offers no benefit to users other than data hoarders or steamers etc who need massive amounts of storage ….. but then again most storage needs can be satisfied with a high capacity small sized NAS or storage server.
Low key wanna try this case lol. Love that the cooler and psu is Included. Cause usually, you only end up with the 750w corsair plat which is not cheap too.
I love ALL my ITX and SFF ITX builds 🥰💪🤩👍! As an NR200 (non-P) owner, I can attest as the cooling effectiveness of this case, even with a Ryzen 9 5900x and RTX3080Ti setup …. even with a 280mm AIO for the cpu and the standard fan cooler for the GPU 🤯🤩. Cooler Master, I agree, should release an updated model with USB-C front panel connector on the case.
quick tip to anyone planing to build in this case. mount everything first on the motherboard. remove all fans, coolers and power supply/storage. order goes: first motherboard, then power, then cooling, then storage and lastly gpu. was easy building with a custom loop inside.
Do you think you'd ever consider doing a live stream charity event that also was somewhere in California that allowed people to attend in person as well? Could be something casual where people could chat and socialize around while y'all streamed
I'd like to see a NO RGB build. Maybe a video of how to turn off all RGB (video card, motherboard, fans, memory). I want it dark at night! Thanks Paul! All hail Paul!
Ddr5? 4090s? I am so far behind. My Ryzen 3950x+Rtx 2080ti still seem WAY too powerful. I have 8 machines in hyper v. 2 doman controllers running server 2022, and 6 client machines for my wifes business. Her employees can vpn into the vNetwork to run their accounting software remotely. All of this runs at startup, and it doesn't hinder any of my gaming, streaming, video editing, or music creation. I have tried to max out my cpu to no avail. Consumers could never use anything faster than what was available two years ago. Not unless everyone decides to start folding@home to cure cancer. I am actually dumbfounded as to why anyone would need this much power.
To each their own but as someone with less Fine motor skill than most this is exactly why I chose to build in a Fractal Pop Air XL so I had MEGA Space to work in and didn't have to fenangle anything. Plus I refuse to build ANYTHING that doesn't have an internal optical drive in it and that case allows me to have one of those.
i wish i won those man need it for work a little bit 3d mostly programming rn i use msi gl63 8rc laptop which i bought when im in college 😁wish me luck love your build content
I’m doing my first PC build with a 2k budget and it will be in the NR200. I’ve got everything but the graphics card. Your video came at the perfect time before I start building
nice build. at first i thought all those adapters and dongles are a bad thing. but thinking about it further, it brings all those sometimes huge connectors away from the board so the overall looks at the board is cleaner.
I actually have my build in a totally unnecessary H710i and when I upgrade my mobo/CPU/RAM in a year or two to match the red devil 7900 XTX I just got, I'm HEAVILY considering moving to an ITX case. It'll be more of a challenge than fitting the system into a massive case like the one I have but the compact layout and the portability are massively appealing to me.
For a ITX case it is well thought out except for the top which is exhaust and their top cover looks like it will not allow much air to go through. On all their filters they should have used a Fine mesh for better air flow.
I love your work very much. This setup is without a shadow of a doubt a dream...Here in Brazil it would be impossible to set up, since it would cost R$20,000.00 and the minimum wage is R$1,300.00. But I loved watching the montage. Success to you!
Honestly I love this small for factor build duo it having such amazing specs for its size. I cant wait to try and participate in the giveaway and also love what you guys are doing with for the kids and the hospitals!!
Love the case, but they need to do an updated version with the upgrades you mentioned (front panel USB-C, a better/easier mounting solution for the AIO block, etc.). They could easily add USB-C to the front (well, top) panel I/O by moving the power button to the front of the case where the outline logo is, and putting the USB-C port right there in the middle. It would keep that area nice and symmetrical, too. I would love to see them do a slightly larger version of this case (NR400P Max? Lol) that could fit MATX boards and full-width fans in the bottom, as well as including a 1000 watt PSU for people who would want to put a 4090 in there. 850W would be cutting it mighty close, not to mention the PSU isn't ATX 3.0/PCIe Gen 5, meaning no native 12VHPWR cable.
My current computer is ITX, but since I used a Thermaltake Core V1, I only had to pay the ITX tax on the MB (offset by buying open box). It's cheap, takes ATX PSUs, and requires no riser cables. It is limited to 92mm CPU coolers, but Thermalright has a nice one under $20. The case is large for ITX, but you can save a lot by using it.
The part of the build that is most mysterious to me is setting the pc up after assembling it. Are partitions still a thing? What settings in the bios do I need to concern myself with? Do I need to check my ram timings? Stuff like that.
Shout out to the UKCA mark on that dominator RAM kit. Brexit really was a thing that happened. And now everyone buying products will know we're a special little island
Welp there is an issue with this build. I decided to build this system for myself for Chrismas. Something Paul misses in the video that he doesn't mention is the riser for the GPU that comes with the case is gen4 and you need a Gen 5 riser. Didn't realize that until the very end when trying to put the GPU in. Tack an extra 70 to the total
aint 89 a lil to hot for a x3d chip. i have a asus b650e/i mobo and a nr200p and im not sure to go 7700x or 7800x3d for my 4k gaming/home entertainment system. i was also considering the 7900xt as a gpu al least the 7900 Gre but i want a good 4k experience while gaming on the couch on my TV. this is kinda like a console killer build. my budget is like 2500 euro. i alrdy 600 deep for the nr200p and mobo. anyone got some solid advice >?
Love what you and Kyle are doing for the kids! ❤🎉 It makes me happy to think of the amount of joy this pc will give a tiny person! Building in the max in a few days myself. Has to be my favourite case, and having triple slot vs the original 2 is a big change.
I just built this today and one thing that tripped me up was the PSU Power Switch. It is located on the PSU (top side) and inaccessible from the outside of the case.
i recently just configured a very very similar build to check the cost for my budgeting purpose - 7800X3D, CM NR200P Max, Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 6000MHz, 2TB Samsung 980Pro, MSI MPG B650I Edge Wifi, MSI 4070 Ti Ventus 3x. Total was SGD 2590 / USD 1950. If i change 4070 Ti to either MSI 4800 Gaming X Trio or Palit 4080 GameRock, it will be SGD 3200 / USD 2400. Still contemplating if i should even build this PC as right now I've XBox Series X with Innocd 27M2V monitor (4K miniled DisplayHDR1000, FALD 1056 dimming zones). If its mostly for gaming, is it worth splurging the money for the PC build or just stick with the xbox? I used to build my own PCs and played with overclocking in my teenage and early 20s age, but that was around 16 years ago since my last build. thoughts by anyone would be appreciated. btw, i'm still waiting for the 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super to see the performance and if it drops the 4070 Ti or 4080 prices down. If i'm to build the PC, 2024 will likely be the year for it. thanks
Does anyone know why my ryzen 5600x cpu is bottlenecking my old Rx 5600xt? Ive been upgrading components slowly and the GPU was the last thing left really but now I'm wondering if upgrading the GPU would be a waste?
3:46 This is one of the few ITX motherboards that support M.2 PCIe 5.0 x4, at $2k you should spend the extra $152.00 and get the Corsair MP700 Gen5. The two M.2 PCIe Gen4 slots support RAID0, hint, hint ,wink (pair of 4TB 990 PROs).
Although I've never owned a home brew ITX system I have had a soft spot for the fun of having lots of power in a small form factor. That said, wow that was hella fiddly! I was very concerned that it wasn't going to fit properly with that ITX PSU orientation..
PC is built, dual 3.5 Nitro curved monitors! Running WoW and a few other games. The wifi 6 is crazy fast! The dual audio is insane, didn’t know it was even possible.
Built my self a ITX build earlier this year. Normaly I use a few hours on a ATX build, but this time I spent almost a whole day 🤣Asus AP201 with 3d printed PSU bracket for Asus Loki 850w and 3d printed anti sag for GPU. Next project is making a template and 3d print or use acrylic sheet to hide the empty space right of motherboard. Almost 1,5cm clearance between PSU and GPU.
Did i see that right? The acer fa100 and samsung 970 evo is a PCIe gen 3.0 drive? Does gen 4 not have better performance? I thought this type of build would typically want a gen 4 storage drive? Not trying say Paul isn't good at this lol just genuinely wanna know.
So living in a tiny home I'm gravitating towards a build like this, but I was told by a local computer store that for gaming I should stick to a mid arc build because mini will run too hot and will thermal throttle, is this true? I want to play cyberpunk at ultra ray tracing with a RTX 4070, ryzen 7 78003d 32 gigs of ram and 2 TB SSD. For mother board was debating on MSI B650M-A micro-ATX or ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I Gaming WiFi 6E.
Im running an i5 13500 and RTX 4070ti in mine and its awesome! Think the highest ive seen the cpu go is like 60 degrees with Asus power limits and gpu is usually around 60 degrees or less. I have undervolted and increased gpu fanspeed to 48% though and have bottom fans as exhaust.
Just bought the parts to build a mini-ITX for my father: Fractal Terra i5 12600k (with Noctua Ghost S1) DDR5 6000mhz CL30 RTX 4060ti 2TB Crucial P3 nvme Asus Strix MB with wifi For about 1400€. 1700€ with the monitor, keyboard, and other necessary stuff. It'll be my first time building a mini-ITX so I hope it'll be good 🙂
I have the NR200P myself, however, I have the Liquid Freezer II 240 in place for the AIO. Works really well albeit it's probably overkill for the 5600G I actually intended as stopgap for until the 5800X3D drops in price. Oh well, it's a nice case anyway and probably one of my favorite ITX cases in general.
Iv been building a mobile mixing station and having an itx build may cost more but i made it up by saving overall size in everything else. Niche product requirments give you niche prices $300 is nothing in the overall cost of having to make everything else bigger.
I love ITX case pricing. I need to spend $150 more on something a quarter of the size, quarter the materials, and a quarter of the airflow.
They're the barefoot shoes of the diy pc world
You already know why though, and you do not actually love the pricing as it sits. Snark harder tho fr fr.
Reason: Low volume. Niche uptake. High tooling costs.
ITX cases would be a lot cheaper if they moved ATX volume.
its an economies of scale thing, new outlines/molds, new hardware/mounts, riser cables, not alot of people buying it etc
When you buy yourself a mail order bride that's a foot shorter, don't expect to spend any less on the diamond.
I know they cram a lot more stuff into itx boards but I feel like I’m getting shortchanged with a smaller board compared to matx/atx. I lose two memory slots and maybe a pcie slot but I have to pay more?
I have been running essentially the same exact system for about 8 months now. So, in case any of you are trying to recreate this build, I have the following tips for you:
- I‘d suggest swapping out the AIO fans to something a bit more premium. I am using two Be Quiet Silent Wings Pro 4 in the high speed setting. The original Cooler Master fans can be a bit whiny and one of my fans actually had a slight wobble on its motor, which created additional noise
- add some 120 mm slim fans to the bottom as intake. Helped dropping my GPU temps to below 68 C at all times
- create some custom fan curves, as the standard fan curves on motherboards are way to aggressive for the otherwise fantastic cooling potential of this case
If you want to keep those $300 savings and still go for a small build you can just build in the Sama IM01 case ($59.92). This case is barely bigger than the NR200 and it allows for micro-atx motherboards, full ATX power supplies, big air coolers, and inverted builds.
Edit: Also allows for easy inverted builds.
I have one of the clones of the Sama IM01 (Pichau HX100) with a 5800X3D, RX 6800, ATX non-modular PSU, B450 m-atx and thermalright pa120. All that with the inverted layout (to avoid dust buildup on the bottom of the PC where its harder to clean without moving it) and I couldnt be happier with the case choice
Love me some ITX builds. A challenge to build it but they sure look nice
They're interesting but not so much a challenge, even in the past (when HDD's had to be used) - you've already committed to small form factor. The only minor consideration is the GPU (on size and performance), but manufacturers already have you covered here. The other consideration is in the CPU+CPU cooler, and there's plenty low profile coolers out there. The big plus today is that you don't need HDD's - the size saving here is significant. Other than that, keep the inside tidy for airflow.
Mini ITX is much more of a challenge! But remember, manufacturers have been supplying the 'HTPC build' for years (thus lots of component choices), a build you'd normally keep under your TV in the living room...so needs to be quiet. I've build a fair few over the years.
Still, always good to see what can be done today.
I feel like they are so overrated compared to mATX. There is some really compact mATX cases out there and the components are much cheaper.
This particular unit (NR200P MAX) is one of the easiest to build in. You just have to make sure that your GPU fits.
And run hot
I love my NR200 build. Worth noting that the NR200 (Non-P or Max) can be had for much less (mine was $20 after sale and rebate). Fits a 280mm AIO just fine and a 4080 FE.
ITX all the way. Higher wife approval factor. 😂
Thank you Paul for showcasing builds with AMD GPUs.
I built in the good old SG13 since the NR200P would be too big for my TV stand (It's a HTPC/emulation build). The build costed around £900 but I did get a couple of good deals. It has a 12100, ROG Strix B660-I - this DDR5 board only costed me £160 at the time. I put in a used 3060 Ti and an SP750 since the SF750 was considerably more expensive. It runs RPCS3 and everything else like a dream and I can watch whatever I like.
Fair warning for anyone building one for themselves, Gigabyte boards are notorious for having VRM whine
That's a nice ITX Build. Great job, Paul.
I wasnt sure how i felt about the case at the beginning but I actually love it! I like that it wont take up much space. Great build!
ITX builds are always interesting :) Good content Paul!
This CPU + GPU combo is so satisfying to see in any build.
6950XT is great with the 7800X3D
lol amd combo is terrible.
@@BlockButton I've used AMD and Nvidia and I can say without any biases that Nvidia is better in so many ways. But if you're an AMD fanboy and all you care about is price, then go with the cheap trash that AMD pumps out. There's a reason Nvidia is more expensive, because it's a better product and people are willing to pay more for it. Their drivers and software are unstable and not good for gamers. Big tech youtubers won't tell you this because they are being paid by sponsors/aren't actual gamers (like me). I have built many computers with every brand, my last build was 4090 + 13900k and I haven't looked back.
The RTX 4090 here in Canada goes for around $2300, and that's the cheapest model available. I recently built my own system, with the 7800X3D and 7900 XTX, for a total of $2500, and that includes all the components.
Yes, the 4090 is faster than the 7900 XTX, but it's really not a huge difference, especially when you can build an entire 7900xtx SYSTEM for just 200-300 more than the price of a single 4090.
Well, I just built a new AM5 pc in a full size case. More my style as I like open loop systems. Next build will be a steampunk theme full size build again. I ran an ITX pc while in the corps, but if I ever do that again it will be highly dependent on the case and the purpose of it. I mean, technically I'm going to be working on an ITX rig but it's a NAS so I don't count it.
Just built my grandson a mini-itx system, first time in 15years so a little struggle! Used an Asus board with rear nvme socket, doesn't fit a nano torrent!
I have used the same case for my build, with a ryzen 9 7900 asus gforce 4070 ti tuf and asus stirx mother board, I repleced the AIO fans with Noctua ones and I have added two additional slim fans below the graphic cards. The case is a headache for buidling, specially for connecting fan cables... the space is so tight and any misatke can lead to a lot of rework... the case is not deep enough to accomodate most of 4080 but honesty these cards got riducously huge. Once built this is a master piece, it runs really quite and cool, i find it amazing how much power you can pack in such small form factor. The other main issue I had is that the strix mother board comes with a single cpu and a single chssis fun connection, I wish they diteched the led strip connections for more fan headers, or better off come with a universal connection that can be used for both fans and addressable RGB.
@ 16:30 ish, speaking of those manufacturer plastic clips- the tension screw holds the Cooler to the CPU, I had the clips of those break, using factory AMD cooler, on my 2nd PC, a Phenom2. Luckily the CPU shut down during POST- and my solution was to lay my PC on its side and let gravity hold the cooler down, until I found a replacement clip at FRY's Electronics (This was before 2010) Ever since then one of the features I look for in an AIO is having a 4 post hold down (not a stirrup using tension)
ITX are awesome, Its just tiny things are more expensive. Just like my kids 😂
TY for your fundraising and for your giveaways and for your youtube channel. God Bless you and your family.
Ahh... ITX build. would love to change my build from an ATX mid tower build to at least an mATX build I need the desk space.
Once again no love for the uATX form factor?
That's the sweet spot, imo.
My wife has been jealous of my tiny ITX system using the CM NR200P Max and we are looking to build her a new system almost identical to this system here using her very own CM NR200P Max. Only difference was Gigabyte card and Samsung drives.
I have these exact core components. 7800X3D, 7900XT, and 32GB 6000MT/s CL30. Only difference is I went full ATX and boy is it big, but cheaper actually. Closing thought saying the bigger size is cheaper is actually true because I pieced mine together for just over $1700.
SUPER solid components. I would definitely recommend this combo for anybody who's got a bit of experience, or wants to upgrade their system.
Would recommend the 7900xt. Just upgraded to it from a 2080 super last week and everything running buttery smooth. Was gaming on lower settings at 4k/1440p and now running all 4k.
ITX has been my go to form factor for over a decade now a I’m happy to pay a small premium for this for factor as I love having more desk space with a tiny case than no desk space with a massive pc case that offers no benefit to users other than data hoarders or steamers etc who need massive amounts of storage ….. but then again most storage needs can be satisfied with a high capacity small sized NAS or storage server.
Low key wanna try this case lol. Love that the cooler and psu is Included.
Cause usually, you only end up with the 750w corsair plat which is not cheap too.
It’s a great case.
Especially if you loathe light up unicorn puke.
I re-did a lot of the pre-wiring.
Post-it screen captures are the future of in video graphics.
Love the ITX build!
Thats a great idea for a pc build: for the price of a 4090... especially with all the drama going on with China and the scalper situation.
I am one of those people that despises RGB crap. Heheheheh...PowerColor for the win!
16:59 - "we're either almost done, or we still have a lot of work to do" 😂😅 - sounds like my life!
Thanks for another great video Paul and Joe ❤
I love ALL my ITX and SFF ITX builds 🥰💪🤩👍! As an NR200 (non-P) owner, I can attest as the cooling effectiveness of this case, even with a Ryzen 9 5900x and RTX3080Ti setup …. even with a 280mm AIO for the cpu and the standard fan cooler for the GPU 🤯🤩. Cooler Master, I agree, should release an updated model with USB-C front panel connector on the case.
The case is coming also with cpu cooler and power supply?
quick tip to anyone planing to build in this case. mount everything first on the motherboard. remove all fans, coolers and power supply/storage. order goes: first motherboard, then power, then cooling, then storage and lastly gpu. was easy building with a custom loop inside.
i have that case and JUST bought a 7800x3d to put in it damn
Love the Beard Paul! Reminds me of a young George Clooney!
Motherboard is $260 om Amazon new and $221 used through Amazon warehouse.
Do you think you'd ever consider doing a live stream charity event that also was somewhere in California that allowed people to attend in person as well? Could be something casual where people could chat and socialize around while y'all streamed
I'd like to see a NO RGB build. Maybe a video of how to turn off all RGB (video card, motherboard, fans, memory). I want it dark at night! Thanks Paul! All hail Paul!
I bought all this last week case will be here tomorrow and all put together then! Thanks Paul!
Ddr5? 4090s? I am so far behind. My Ryzen 3950x+Rtx 2080ti still seem WAY too powerful. I have 8 machines in hyper v. 2 doman controllers running server 2022, and 6 client machines for my wifes business. Her employees can vpn into the vNetwork to run their accounting software remotely. All of this runs at startup, and it doesn't hinder any of my gaming, streaming, video editing, or music creation. I have tried to max out my cpu to no avail. Consumers could never use anything faster than what was available two years ago. Not unless everyone decides to start folding@home to cure cancer. I am actually dumbfounded as to why anyone would need this much power.
For gaming? 4K 144Hz and you'd want at least a 7900XTX
To each their own but as someone with less Fine motor skill than most this is exactly why I chose to build in a Fractal Pop Air XL so I had MEGA Space to work in and didn't have to fenangle anything. Plus I refuse to build ANYTHING that doesn't have an internal optical drive in it and that case allows me to have one of those.
Why skip over the process of finding where to connect the cables? That would have been extremely helpful. Love the channel though.
i wish i won those man need it for work a little bit 3d mostly programming rn i use msi gl63 8rc laptop which i bought when im in college 😁wish me luck love your build content
I’m doing my first PC build with a 2k budget and it will be in the NR200. I’ve got everything but the graphics card. Your video came at the perfect time before I start building
nice build. at first i thought all those adapters and dongles are a bad thing. but thinking about it further, it brings all those sometimes huge connectors away from the board so the overall looks at the board is cleaner.
I would either go ITX to strap it under my sit-stand desk or have a rack mounted gaming pc on top of my rack mounted NAS :D Great build!
I actually have my build in a totally unnecessary H710i and when I upgrade my mobo/CPU/RAM in a year or two to match the red devil 7900 XTX I just got, I'm HEAVILY considering moving to an ITX case. It'll be more of a challenge than fitting the system into a massive case like the one I have but the compact layout and the portability are massively appealing to me.
The new Zero board would be perfect for itx
For a ITX case it is well thought out except for the top which is exhaust and their top cover looks like it will not allow much air to go through. On all their filters they should have used a Fine mesh for better air flow.
I have always used only ITX systems! I am always traveling, so only ITX)
Great job, but I really don't have any interest in doing an itx build. For another $400 I'd upgrade my monitor
Great to see Mini ITX. As we moved and my PC is now in the living room, I'm looking for something small.
I love your work very much. This setup is without a shadow of a doubt a dream...Here in Brazil it would be impossible to set up, since it would cost R$20,000.00 and the minimum wage is R$1,300.00. But I loved watching the montage. Success to you!
Awwww
local products are the best, Parquai Chips ?
Might do a Mini-ITX build now.
So far you are in the lead! Hope you raise all possible for the charity. Happy holidays and Merry Christmas.
I kinda fell in love with that motherboard, very nice build!
handsome little fella, well done.
What do you think about substituting the b650i with the b650m?
I love this build. I really want am itx for the PC in my room.
Honestly I love this small for factor build duo it having such amazing specs for its size. I cant wait to try and participate in the giveaway and also love what you guys are doing with for the kids and the hospitals!!
I got the MicroTitan PC on MicroPowerPC and I absolutely love it. Incredible build quality, and super powerful. Probably the best PC I've ever had.
I was not familiar with that case, but it looked really badass to me. I will definitely be looking out for a v2
Love the case, but they need to do an updated version with the upgrades you mentioned (front panel USB-C, a better/easier mounting solution for the AIO block, etc.). They could easily add USB-C to the front (well, top) panel I/O by moving the power button to the front of the case where the outline logo is, and putting the USB-C port right there in the middle. It would keep that area nice and symmetrical, too.
I would love to see them do a slightly larger version of this case (NR400P Max? Lol) that could fit MATX boards and full-width fans in the bottom, as well as including a 1000 watt PSU for people who would want to put a 4090 in there. 850W would be cutting it mighty close, not to mention the PSU isn't ATX 3.0/PCIe Gen 5, meaning no native 12VHPWR cable.
My current computer is ITX, but since I used a Thermaltake Core V1, I only had to pay the ITX tax on the MB (offset by buying open box). It's cheap, takes ATX PSUs, and requires no riser cables. It is limited to 92mm CPU coolers, but Thermalright has a nice one under $20. The case is large for ITX, but you can save a lot by using it.
I would use a faster gen4 ssd with cache in a nice system.
The part of the build that is most mysterious to me is setting the pc up after assembling it. Are partitions still a thing? What settings in the bios do I need to concern myself with? Do I need to check my ram timings? Stuff like that.
My next built will be a mini iTx
Shout out to the UKCA mark on that dominator RAM kit. Brexit really was a thing that happened. And now everyone buying products will know we're a special little island
This was quite a big build for such a small case. I'm liking it.
Welp there is an issue with this build. I decided to build this system for myself for Chrismas. Something Paul misses in the video that he doesn't mention is the riser for the GPU that comes with the case is gen4 and you need a Gen 5 riser. Didn't realize that until the very end when trying to put the GPU in. Tack an extra 70 to the total
aint 89 a lil to hot for a x3d chip. i have a asus b650e/i mobo and a nr200p and im not sure to go 7700x or 7800x3d for my 4k gaming/home entertainment system. i was also considering the 7900xt as a gpu al least the 7900 Gre but i want a good 4k experience while gaming on the couch on my TV. this is kinda like a console killer build. my budget is like 2500 euro. i alrdy 600 deep for the nr200p and mobo.
anyone got some solid advice >?
Always a good day when Paul uploads a new video!
Love what you and Kyle are doing for the kids! ❤🎉 It makes me happy to think of the amount of joy this pc will give a tiny person!
Building in the max in a few days myself. Has to be my favourite case, and having triple slot vs the original 2 is a big change.
I just built this today and one thing that tripped me up was the PSU Power Switch. It is located on the PSU (top side) and inaccessible from the outside of the case.
The main weak point is lack of usb 3.2 front connector. It makes no sense not to have one.
i recently just configured a very very similar build to check the cost for my budgeting purpose - 7800X3D, CM NR200P Max, Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 6000MHz, 2TB Samsung 980Pro, MSI MPG B650I Edge Wifi, MSI 4070 Ti Ventus 3x. Total was SGD 2590 / USD 1950. If i change 4070 Ti to either MSI 4800 Gaming X Trio or Palit 4080 GameRock, it will be SGD 3200 / USD 2400. Still contemplating if i should even build this PC as right now I've XBox Series X with Innocd 27M2V monitor (4K miniled DisplayHDR1000, FALD 1056 dimming zones). If its mostly for gaming, is it worth splurging the money for the PC build or just stick with the xbox? I used to build my own PCs and played with overclocking in my teenage and early 20s age, but that was around 16 years ago since my last build. thoughts by anyone would be appreciated. btw, i'm still waiting for the 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super to see the performance and if it drops the 4070 Ti or 4080 prices down. If i'm to build the PC, 2024 will likely be the year for it. thanks
Paul is absolutely rocking that beard, love it!
agreed, that beard is awesome.
Does anyone know why my ryzen 5600x cpu is bottlenecking my old Rx 5600xt? Ive been upgrading components slowly and the GPU was the last thing left really but now I'm wondering if upgrading the GPU would be a waste?
Awesome hardware, best of luck to everyone in the draw.
Damn, I wish I had all that hardware! That mini case is ideal for my tiny space room!
Yes no RGB lol That build was awesome! I was looking into doing an ITX build next. I'm currently still on AM4 with 5000 series.
Seeing these new gen builds are crazy! I'm still here with my nvidia1070 and intel i5-7600 haha.
Ha, this is exactly the same system I want to build. Slowly buying the parts one at a time.
3:46 This is one of the few ITX motherboards that support M.2 PCIe 5.0 x4, at $2k you should spend the extra $152.00 and get the Corsair MP700 Gen5. The two M.2 PCIe Gen4 slots support RAID0, hint, hint ,wink (pair of 4TB 990 PROs).
Although I've never owned a home brew ITX system I have had a soft spot for the fun of having lots of power in a small form factor. That said, wow that was hella fiddly! I was very concerned that it wasn't going to fit properly with that ITX PSU orientation..
PC is built, dual 3.5 Nitro curved monitors! Running WoW and a few other games. The wifi 6 is crazy fast! The dual audio is insane, didn’t know it was even possible.
Built my self a ITX build earlier this year. Normaly I use a few hours on a ATX build, but this time I spent almost a whole day 🤣Asus AP201 with 3d printed PSU bracket for Asus Loki 850w and 3d printed anti sag for GPU. Next project is making a template and 3d print or use acrylic sheet to hide the empty space right of motherboard. Almost 1,5cm clearance between PSU and GPU.
Just wanted to say, hi Paul. Thanks for all that you've brought your community. Ok, bye now.
I love itx, but smaller is better.
Question, will laying the case on its side cause any cooling issues as long as the mobo is on the bottom? I know AIOs can be finicky.
Did i see that right? The acer fa100 and samsung 970 evo is a PCIe gen 3.0 drive? Does gen 4 not have better performance? I thought this type of build would typically want a gen 4 storage drive? Not trying say Paul isn't good at this lol just genuinely wanna know.
Love ITX builds
So living in a tiny home I'm gravitating towards a build like this, but I was told by a local computer store that for gaming I should stick to a mid arc build because mini will run too hot and will thermal throttle, is this true? I want to play cyberpunk at ultra ray tracing with a RTX 4070, ryzen 7 78003d 32 gigs of ram and 2 TB SSD. For mother board was debating on MSI B650M-A micro-ATX or ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I Gaming WiFi 6E.
Do you have to use a riser cable for your GPU?
Im running an i5 13500 and RTX 4070ti in mine and its awesome! Think the highest ive seen the cpu go is like 60 degrees with Asus power limits and gpu is usually around 60 degrees or less. I have undervolted and increased gpu fanspeed to 48% though and have bottom fans as exhaust.
Just bought the parts to build a mini-ITX for my father:
Fractal Terra
i5 12600k (with Noctua Ghost S1)
DDR5 6000mhz CL30
RTX 4060ti
2TB Crucial P3 nvme
Asus Strix MB with wifi
For about 1400€. 1700€ with the monitor, keyboard, and other necessary stuff.
It'll be my first time building a mini-ITX so I hope it'll be good 🙂
Thats a fantastic build i wanted to donate but it Christmas timing an on a budget i like supporting ya!!!
I have the NR200P myself, however, I have the Liquid Freezer II 240 in place for the AIO.
Works really well albeit it's probably overkill for the 5600G I actually intended as stopgap for until the 5800X3D drops in price.
Oh well, it's a nice case anyway and probably one of my favorite ITX cases in general.
Iv been building a mobile mixing station and having an itx build may cost more but i made it up by saving overall size in everything else. Niche product requirments give you niche prices $300 is nothing in the overall cost of having to make everything else bigger.