I bought a Broughton HPF (25hz - 190hz) & LPF ( 330hz - 20khz) foot pedal...works great inserted in effects loop, 9v - 24v so plenty headroom with 24v, 12db/octave roll off slopes, gets rid of a lot of top end amp 60hz cycle hum/noise....helps protect your bass cabs if you use a 4 or 5 string bass...really pleased with the quality & lack of colour to my bass signal..output 75ohm ,true bypass....great for softing some of my heavy sounding bass's, cleans up the bass tone making it easier to hear if set between 50hz - 60hz, great pedal....
Thanks, nice analysis....high passing can make low end sound fatter....particularly with a resonance bump at high pass frequency....counterintuitive and very useful tool!
I use the Broughton HPF/LPF even with my amp and cabinet. It sounds counterintuitive, but I boost the bass on my amp's EQ while dialing the high pass all the way to 80hz. The high pass pedal still lets some of that sub-80hz through, but this way it's tight and controlled.
I’ve heard about that pedal! Broughton seems to come up with very interesting designs 🙌🏽 Yeah, raising a HPF and boosting bass creates a different type of low end punch that still leaves room down below. Great technique!
There is a phenomenon/trick of using two different circuits to put a cut and a boost in the same place that seems counterintuitive that actually works nicely. Basically you make a broad cut of the low end while more selectively boosting specifically the sub frequencies, making them stand out.
I use the same Broughton HP/LP Filter unit in my live set up. Set the HP to 35/40 hz and the LP to approx 4khz. I then boost the shelving bass and treble on my Aguilar Tone Hammer DI (centre frequencies at 40hz and 4khz respectively). The shelving EQ in this unit has a broad effect, and is very musical but the Broughton tidies up the rumble and harsh hi end. It's amazing what this unit achieves - I call it "studio tone" for live performance.
This is going to help immensely for studio bass recordings as well. You explained it well and right to the point. Ive had good results using proper mics on my bass cab, but DI through a 1073 mic pre was somewhat problematic on the mix due to the low end capture....High pass fixed it and Thank you for explaining the Hz range to save time honing it in... That mesa is sweet for demonstrating the effects of the high pass filter!
@@IvanBassist Yes. I also found a very nice DIY alternative here: schalltechnik04.de/en/instructions/mini-hp-vong. I'll start by trying that one and grow from there.
You got a new subscriber. Please keep doing content like this one, it is very helpful for beginners and few people share this kind of information the way you do. Kudos :)
Where do you put the high pass filter in your signal chain? I am looking at a pedal. Do I put it in the front of my chain, the end, or in the effects loop? Thank you, great video!
Hey Brian! That depends a bit on the pedals that you have and what you want to achieve, but as a general rule of thumb I’d place the HPF either right before the amp or as the last thing in your board. If you send the signal to FOH from your board then right behind the DI box
Thank you! I've been adding bass guitar to my mixes lately and figuring out filtering my lows is killing me. My drums sound like trash or my whole mix is too boomy.
Hmmmmm.....i thought a HPF does'nt take of low frequencies Ivan ?...as i thought a HPF takes of lower frequencies...yes your compressor is running a parrallel compression that does not take of your bass signal but i am right to...a HPF removes the lowest of bass notes...so strictly it's a parrallel compressor with a HPF on the compression only not your bass signal...maybe someone should explain the difference, when i get back on TH-cam i will explain parallel compression with a HPF... my SD Studio compressor pedal has a toggle switch to impliment various HPF modes...not confused anymore 😂
A HPF does remove low frequencies. A HPF on a compressor (such as the Cali76) does not. In this case the HPF on the compressor is making the compressor react less to bass frequencies. Those are two very different things.
From the Cali76 manual: This control adjusts a variable high-pass filter on the compressor’s sidechain(**sidechain is the keyword here**) - the part of the circuit that determines how the compressor responds to the input signal. There is a huge amount of low-frequency con- tent in a bass guitar signal, which can lead to excessive compression. By filtering out the lowest frequencies from the sidechain, the compressor is prevented from being overwhelmed. Instead, the sidechain is able react only to the higher-frequency details of your playing, such as the difference between playing softly with your thumb and playing aggressively with pick or slap techniques. This results in more natural dynamics and fullness in the low end, with higher frequencies still kept tightly under control. The HPF knob ranges from 0 Hz to 400 Hz.
@@IvanBassist ...yeah i'm getting it now, not the same as the HPF on my Ashdown amps which does cut the bass signal as far back as 120hz depending on pot position...great for practising in house..so on a compressor the HPF is cutting only the compression not the whole bass signal, unless set that way on your compressor...my SD does something similar...i'll have to read up on it...HPF's that control the whole bottom end like on my Ashdown' amps are great for controlling the low end when playing venues that makes your bass sound overblown & bloated ....
what you might want to talk about is first and second order filters - that they don't cut so much as reduce by a certain db per frequency octave. So it doesn't fully cut - just reduces and that is why its not a super drastic difference UNLESS you do 2nd or 3rd order filters. Would also help if you were better at playing bass not as much mess flappy loose there to mess up the improvements.
I bought a Broughton HPF (25hz - 190hz) & LPF ( 330hz - 20khz) foot pedal...works great inserted in effects loop, 9v - 24v so plenty headroom with 24v, 12db/octave roll off slopes, gets rid of a lot of top end amp 60hz cycle hum/noise....helps protect your bass cabs if you use a 4 or 5 string bass...really pleased with the quality & lack of colour to my bass signal..output 75ohm ,true bypass....great for softing some of my heavy sounding bass's, cleans up the bass tone making it easier to hear if set between 50hz - 60hz, great pedal....
Thanks, nice analysis....high passing can make low end sound fatter....particularly with a resonance bump at high pass frequency....counterintuitive and very useful tool!
The magic of high pass filter, awesome words!
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I use the Broughton HPF/LPF even with my amp and cabinet. It sounds counterintuitive, but I boost the bass on my amp's EQ while dialing the high pass all the way to 80hz. The high pass pedal still lets some of that sub-80hz through, but this way it's tight and controlled.
Sorry, it's actually called the Broughton Low + High Pass Filter. Easily the best and most used pedal I own.
I’ve heard about that pedal! Broughton seems to come up with very interesting designs 🙌🏽
Yeah, raising a HPF and boosting bass creates a different type of low end punch that still leaves room down below. Great technique!
There is a phenomenon/trick of using two different circuits to put a cut and a boost in the same place that seems counterintuitive that actually works nicely. Basically you make a broad cut of the low end while more selectively boosting specifically the sub frequencies, making them stand out.
I use the same Broughton HP/LP Filter unit in my live set up. Set the HP to 35/40 hz and the LP to approx 4khz. I then boost the shelving bass and treble on my Aguilar Tone Hammer DI (centre frequencies at 40hz and 4khz respectively). The shelving EQ in this unit has a broad effect, and is very musical but the Broughton tidies up the rumble and harsh hi end. It's amazing what this unit achieves - I call it "studio tone" for live performance.
@@jdjk7 It's the classic Pultec EQ thing. Very effective.
Love this breakdown man! Keep it up. I’m definitely taking notes
Thanks, Gary! 🙏🏽
This is going to help immensely for studio bass recordings as well. You explained it well and right to the point. Ive had good results using proper mics on my bass cab, but DI through a 1073 mic pre was somewhat problematic on the mix due to the low end capture....High pass fixed it and Thank you for explaining the Hz range to save time honing it in... That mesa is sweet for demonstrating the effects of the high pass filter!
Thanks for watching! Glad to hear the video was helpful :)
DI can capture higher and lower than 20-20k - depends on capture DA converter or if its filtered ... input capacitor
Awesome edition of the BTTs! :-) I've never tried a HPF, but I think I'll try one in my board. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I know the brand broughton makes a great one, there’s also F-deck and the thumpinator or you could use a cab sim pedal :)
@@IvanBassist Yes. I also found a very nice DIY alternative here: schalltechnik04.de/en/instructions/mini-hp-vong. I'll start by trying that one and grow from there.
You got a new subscriber. Please keep doing content like this one, it is very helpful for beginners and few people share this kind of information the way you do. Kudos :)
Thanks for the kind words! I’m glad you find the videos helpful!
Great video and explanation!
Thanks for watching, Gary!
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Where do you put the high pass filter in your signal chain? I am looking at a pedal. Do I put it in the front of my chain, the end, or in the effects loop? Thank you, great video!
Hey Brian! That depends a bit on the pedals that you have and what you want to achieve, but as a general rule of thumb I’d place the HPF either right before the amp or as the last thing in your board. If you send the signal to FOH from your board then right behind the DI box
Hey, nice video. Would you recommend a high pass filter with 24 dB / octave or a 12 dB / octave curve?
24 db/octave is pretty aggressive. 12 should be fine
Thank you! I've been adding bass guitar to my mixes lately and figuring out filtering my lows is killing me. My drums sound like trash or my whole mix is too boomy.
Side-chaining the bass to the kick or using a multi-band compressor could be useful!
Excellent content man!
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Hmmmmm.....i thought a HPF does'nt take of low frequencies Ivan ?...as i thought a HPF takes of lower frequencies...yes your compressor is running a parrallel compression that does not take of your bass signal but i am right to...a HPF removes the lowest of bass notes...so strictly it's a parrallel compressor with a HPF on the compression only not your bass signal...maybe someone should explain the difference, when i get back on TH-cam i will explain parallel compression with a HPF... my SD Studio compressor pedal has a toggle switch to impliment various HPF modes...not confused anymore 😂
A HPF does remove low frequencies.
A HPF on a compressor (such as the Cali76) does not. In this case the HPF on the compressor is making the compressor react less to bass frequencies.
Those are two very different things.
From the Cali76 manual: This control adjusts a variable high-pass filter on the compressor’s sidechain(**sidechain is the keyword here**) - the part of the circuit that determines how the compressor responds to the input signal. There is a huge amount of low-frequency con- tent in a bass guitar signal, which can lead to excessive compression. By filtering out the lowest frequencies from the sidechain, the compressor is prevented from being overwhelmed. Instead, the sidechain is able react only to the higher-frequency details of your playing, such as the difference between playing softly with your thumb and playing aggressively with pick or slap techniques. This results in more natural dynamics and fullness in the low end, with higher frequencies still kept tightly under control. The HPF knob ranges from 0 Hz to 400 Hz.
@@IvanBassist ...yeah i'm getting it now, not the same as the HPF on my Ashdown amps which does cut the bass signal as far back as 120hz depending on pot position...great for practising in house..so on a compressor the HPF is cutting only the compression not the whole bass signal, unless set that way on your compressor...my SD does something similar...i'll have to read up on it...HPF's that control the whole bottom end like on my Ashdown' amps are great for controlling the low end when playing venues that makes your bass sound overblown & bloated
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@christopherstorrier5560 exactly :)
@@IvanBassist ...as i thought, sidechain- variable semi parallel contained within the pedal...a HPF for the compressed signal only....
what you might want to talk about is first and second order filters - that they don't cut so much as reduce by a certain db per frequency octave. So it doesn't fully cut - just reduces and that is why its not a super drastic difference UNLESS you do 2nd or 3rd order filters. Would also help if you were better at playing bass not as much mess flappy loose there to mess up the improvements.
I think you haven’t moved you hands enough while talking.
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This video should be 5 minutes or less, the rest is ... unstructured words.
Glad to hear it brought you some value at least