The v Strom 650 is not a off road bike this is a commuter motorcycle and one of the best bike in the market , I have a 2009 now and a 2017 honestly this bike is the best bike ever rode on my life, good in fuel, comfortable, good power, good on insurance, very reliable, good price, never break down, honestly I can't ask for better bike. Thank Suzuki and please no make any change this bike is perfect hands down.
Here’s my testimonial: Since 2009 I’ve bought three new Wee Strom’s; collectively - over tundra and through jungles - they’ve withstood over 270 000 hard kilometers and all three are still running. I bought my first ‘Strom as an overreaction to my Beemer’s wonky and very expensive issues, never thought I’d respect the Wee - then, that little V-twin stole my heart. The reliability is higher, and the cost of ownership is far lower on the three ‘Stroms than my other bikes. That said, I do wish Suzuki would produce a more expensive special edition Wee with upgraded brakes, suspension, lights (I’ll do the exhaust); until they do that, I’ll postpone buying another. Over fifty years of riding, the V-Strom remains one of my favorite motorcycles and, I’d argue, one of the best “real world” motorcycles ever produced.
I have 2 V-Stroms a bought new 2005 650, and a used 06 1000. Great bikes, my history is in off road with a varied type of early day's racing. I will age out (almost 67) before these bikes wear out.Lets see, 55 years riding and yes it would be great for an upgraded version. You sir nailed it! My BMW sits!
and I agree, with over 30 years of experience, never thought this smaller bike would resonate with me, but it did big time.. and if you take it a bit slower, it does fine on adventures, also because of the smoothness of the engine, its a big advantage, so forgiving..
@Jay Bee The lack of dealer network in the states was one of the factors in my not going with Triumph for an ADV bike. Only recently, I've started learning of build issues and kinda lousy support from Triumph.
@Jay Bee As a Harley & Kawasaki owner I understand your dilemma. Forums and social media outlets are filled with denial of issues. If something is known, it should have already been addressed by the company or dealer. It powers up the level of frustration when the company releases a new & improved model and doesn't address those known issues. Thats just greed, incompetence, or negligence.
@ Our stock seat was fine. We stopped 150-200 miles for fuel and a streatch at times. Otherwise we would stop to see something interesting. The most we did in a day was 400 miles in the Northern territories of Australia.
I have a 2015 Vstrom 650 and love this bike, I’m averaging 63 mpg she handles on and off road to my liking, I’m 60 years young and have a blast on this bike, do quite a bit of moto camping carries all my gear with ease, takes me on and off road with no problems, I’m. Not stump jumping,but we get in the back woods. Yup, a great bike !
I have been using the most varied types of motorcycles since I was very young and I am 60 years old. I believe this is one of the few bikes that came closest to perfection. Legendary, iconic
I came from a DR650, which was my first bike (at 52 years old) to a 2020 Wee Adventure and I think your points are exactly on point. The 'Strom is designed as an inexpensive bike that can do most things adequately well, but it's not a "market leader" in any specific category. One thing you didn't mention that's also great about the Wee Strom is its legendary reliability - this thing is as reliable as an anvil. If TH-cam is to be believed, I seem to be the only person in the US who can only have one motorcycle (at a time), and the 'Strom let's me do *everything* I got into motorcycles for: laying down slab miles on long trips comfortably, riding forest roads, *cruising* "twisties" - and it still handles OK when packed for a trip so it's a great moto-camping companion that won't leave you stranded. For awhile I was kicking myself because I didn't wait for the T7 to come out -- that looks like an *amazing* bike. But then I realized that, as you pointed out, I am not a hardcore dirt rider and I honestly don't get off-road more than 4-5 times per year. Once I accepted my *actual* riding parameters, I realized the 'Strom is perfect for me.
Totally agree with everything in this review in particular that the 650 is the better bike.Sunce 2002 I have had 9 vstroms 4 dl 1000 and 5 dl650 and have never had a problem with any of them
After watching tons of videos yours convinced me that the Strom was the best for me. Last week I bought a used 17,000 mile 2015 adventure model that looks like new. I’m in heaven! I don’t know why people insist on riding these like they’re a sport bike in the videos. it’s a great basic all around do everything bike that’s so comfortable.
Don't worry about your videos being too short or too long and don't try to adapt too much! Your videos are my favourite motorcycle videos and are always great!
I agree! Don't try to chase susbscribers. Do your thing. Do it with passion and your enthusiasm will attract the people you want anyway. The others can go elsewhere.
I bought mine almost 2 yrs ago, and with Suzuki's incentives I got it out the door for 7,500 USD (base model). I have dropped it a few times in the mountains without guards and the plastics only have a few scraps, for character. It's awesome in the twisties, gets great MPG (58), though this has fallen on windy days on the interstate to as low as 42. The buffeting is an issue, most just get an extender. I love the styling of the 1050, and the extra speed would be nice but at circa 50% higher cost, lower MPG, more weight and only about a 10 mph top end increase--I just can't see it as the better buy for a solo rider. What I really love about his bike, besides the v twin, is that if I wreck it or it gets stolen or some other disaster--it's not the end of the world. The economic component of motorcycling is one thing that attracted me, and the V Strom is fabulous in that regard: it ain't a GS, or a boat, so buy that premium beer and steak at the restaurant you just journeyed to, because you deserve it!
"so buy that premium beer and steak at the restaurant you just journeyed to, because you deserve it!" - well said! Wait... no beer... can't drink and ride! Gonna have a bigger steak! :D
You have to remember that the V-Strom isn't really meant to go off road and over here in Europe it's regarded as a touring / everyday commuting bike , its popular here because of the large tank and great fuel consumption allied to good handling and bulletproof reliability .
@@coconuciferanuts339 Tell my brother that! He takes his through REALLY gnarly southern ca sand rock strewn trails.....BONE STOCK....30k MILES and going strong
@@nigelwolfe6150 Sounds like your bro.is a good,strong rider.I'm abit of a light-weight myself & after a few spills don't want any more scratches on me '17,650xt.Still getting over sprained ankle.Cheers Nigel.Den.
I have a 2020 650 Vstrom XT adventure and my wife has the 2019 XT Touring. We love the bikes. We like to go camping and the pannier capacity on the XT adventure is great. I don't use the bike for much off road stuff because its not fun to pick it up and clearly never intended for rough off road. I have a DR 650 for some of that. In my opinion it seems, that at some time in the recent past, somebody convinced the public that adventure meant serious off-roading and single track riding. That just isn't true. It makes no sense to expect the Vstrom to perform off road like the T-7 There are lots of lighter, more agile bikes for that. You do excellent reviews and I appreciate your videos a lot. Keep up the good work.
I have a 2005 DL650 and it just passed 90,000 miles with normal maintenance, i thrash it quite a bit but it doesn’t burn a drop of oil and is boring reliable, love it. planing on taking it to Yellowstone later this year.
I purchased my V-Strom 650 this year, after riding the SV650X for four years. This bike almost runs by itself. It's so smooth and comfortable, you could ride ist all day long. Although I still keep my SV650X, for longer rides and bike holidays, the V-Strom is always my first choice. I tested the Triumph Tiger Sport 660 in May and was rather disappointed. It took me almost two minutes to find the neutral, however the dealer offered it for the same price as the V-Strom, I decided for the V-Strom. 20 Years of experience vs first production year, easy choice.
The DL650 was my introduction to adventure bikes. What a great bike! Suzuki did a fantastic job on this motorcycle. For some reason the Japanese bikes have a penchant for undersprung suspension. I put new springs in my V-strom and a Racetech gold valve kit and it made the bike 100% better.
This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen on any bike. The video was concise (even at 34 min) and provided all the information a prospective buyer would need. I bought the VStrom 1000XT Adventure about 18 months ago and really like it (heavier rider). I did change a number of things (skid plate, pegs, mirror extenders, windscreen, bars up and back). I don’t do much off pavement riding but felt the extra protection was mandatory. In hindsight, with a review like you provided, I probably would have been just as pleased with the 650 version. The only real negative I have found with the 1000 is poor fuel economy with the luggage installed and interstate speeds.
I have a 2019 1000xt Adventure. What skid plate and bar risers did you go with? I'm in the market for both, don't want to change cables and hoses. I just hit 5k miles and noticed my fuel mileage has increased a bit from 41 to43 mpg.
@@elitetileandstone roxspeedfx.com/collections/adv-dual-sport-dirt-bike-handlebar-risers/products/1-1-4-block-offset-risers-for-7-8-or-1-1-8-handlebar These risers worked without changing any cables. Installed them “backwards” to move the handlebars closer to me. This also raised them but not as much as if installed in the “forward” direction. For me personally, this made a huge difference on my lower back as that I don’t have to lean as far forward.
@@elitetileandstone www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sw-motech-skid-plate-suzuki-v-strom-1000-2014-2016?sku_id=1018466 I have a 2019 VStrom 1000XT Adventure. This skid plate was easy to install and worked with the OEM crash bars which I believe are actually made by SW Motech also.
@@elitetileandstone Your fuel mileage is interesting. When on backroads where speed is typically less than 60 mph, I get 50 mpg even with luggage installed. During interstate riding at speeds between 70-80 mph I have gotten as low as 35 mpg with luggage installed depending on wind conditions and as high as 40 mpg. Without luggage installed on the interstate I get 42-44 mpg. I have about 4500 miles on my bike.
I own a 2020 V-Strom 650 Adventure that I have ridden 13,XXX mile. Previous bike BMW R1200GS Adventure. I switched to the V-Strom because the BMW was getting too big and heavy for me to handle at almost 70 years old. I find the V-Strom a joy to ride, easy on road and good on forest service roads. You just need to know your limitations. This past weekend I attended a BMW Campout, the V-Strom gets lots of attention. We're a bunch of old guys. I find compared to BMW the Suzuki is cheap to own. Burn regular gasoline, oil filters compared to BMW are cheap, lower cost insurance. I am sure in the near future many of my riding buddies will down size.
Great review for a bike I love. I just completed a 1900 mile trip on a 2019 650 XT through the twisties of northern Idaho and over two dirt mountain passes, Skalkaho in the Sapphires and Red Rock in the Centennial mountains. The bike will go anywhere you'd take a rental car. Adjusting the sag gives you the confidence to carve through corners, loaded for touring, without leaving chicken strips on the back tire. As for passing while loaded up? You can make a 3 hop no problem. It's not recommended but we all do it. I'm 6'-3" 175 lbs. I put on: Mosko 80L bags; the Puig Touring Screen to eliminate buffeting and no bugs hit my visor; lowered the pegs 1/2" with SM Motech to get grip for standing; put on a sheep skin "Butt Saver" from Sickafus to make things more comfortable. No problem keeping up the GS 1250 and Multistrada on the ride. Any short comings the bike may have are beyond my skill level. If you only get one bike this is a good one.
I had a 2005 V-Strom 650. My experience largely agrees with your review. I rode it all over the Western US. Death Valley. The Burr Trail. Titus Canyon. Toroweap. I rode it to work every day. Great on the highway. I could drag the foot pegs. Surprisingly good on dirt roads. With a good skid plate and tires, it will surprise you with where it can go. Fuel range is great on the V-Strom 650. Mine could go about 250 miles on a tank of gas. New ones should be approaching 300 miles. I rarely ran out of power with the 650 engine. Typically happened at high altitude with the bike loaded down on a highway. New V-Stroms are probably better. Replacing the stock fork springs with Progressive springs made washboard roads noticeably better. You need a good skid plate to go off road. Just riding off a curb can scrape the skid plate. A friend has my V-Strom now. It recently hit 90,000 miles. Still looks and runs good. At about 75,000 miles it started needing some care: new starter, new clutch, new brake rotors. In a word: tough.
Great video. I have had two Vstroms in two years and I am really happy. I bought last year a Vstrom 250 and it was a great bike and after a year I sold it and bought a Vstrom 650. Here is my take: PROS: 1. I know the design is subjective but for me the design is pretty cool. 2. The engine, reliable, smooth and bulletproof engine. It has lots of torque and the power delivery is lineal so its really easy to ride. 3. Value, you get a lot of bike for a good price. 4. Easy maintenance. 5. Great handling and low seat. 6. Love the dash!!! Old school, big analogue tachometer that it is easy to read....I prefer this hybrid analogue / Lcd dash over a TFT anyday. 7. Balanced all around bike. 8. ABS and Traction Control. 9. Easy to use controls. CONS: 1. You cannot turn Off the Abs. 2. It does not have LED headlight neither DRLs. 3. Engine too exposed. 4. That the windshield could be easier to rise/lower it. Rivals: 1. Kawasaki Versys 650: great bike, more road oriented, and a little bit more expensive that the Vstrom. 2. Honda NC 750 X: great all around bike like the Vstrom, available with DCT transmission, good torque but lower power, also more expensive that the Vstrom 3 CF Moto 650 MT: a poor's man Kawasaki Versys almost clone, cool design, cheaper that the Vstrom, road oriented bike. Thanks for reading....hope it helps. Ride safe.
I just bought an SV-650 and for the first time experienced this engine. I'm loving it. Its so smooth, yet so characterful and even the stock exhaust sounds great. You can run it very quietly at low RPM, but also make it rev and let it roar. I can really see this as a great ADV bike engine.
This is so far the best Vee review I think. Every characteristic aspect is discussed with a realistic & informative approach. Off-road / on-road test, deep review of suspensions, motor characteristics, reliability, ground clearance, price/performance-value. Thanks a lot.
I have bought a 2009 dl650A, I am not a new bike buyer. I think given the fact these bikes are virtually unchanged since the first gen means I can't see the point. Personally I prefer to spend the difference addressing some the few problems you've highlighted in your review, the lack of bottom engine protection, soft suspension , better pegs and some heated grips. That motor is simply amazing, so tractable, so smooth it gives me a smile every time I take it out. Thank you for your reviews, I prefer your longer format but in either case your methodical attention to detail really grabs me.
I did bought a 2021 V-Strom 650 XT Adventure back in April and yes it is an awesome machine. I got it because of a friend, he actually told me about an "underdog bike that does not get the attention it deserved"....well he was talking about the V-Strom....
i got this bike (V-Strom 650Xt 2018) because i think it is a great all around bike maybe underrated. It's not offroad oriented as yamaha T7 or ktm 790 are (they're different beasts) it cost less and It will perform better in road trip with passenger.I did some offroad tracks with my V-strom 650xt and i think at the right speed it is doable. For an all around bike with passenger too.. i think this bike is a perfect do it all bike..
Bought a new Suzuki 650 Vstrom in 2020, sold my 2011 Kawa 650 KLR. I like doing 90% street and around 10% off road. KLR is more geared to off road but at very least 50/50. I missed not having a 6 th gear and the V twin Suzuki gave me twice the hp (69 vs 35). So far it’s a great bike. Only thing I probably need to do is raise the handlebars maybe an inch for more comfortable stand up riding. Here in TX standing up in the hot months (May thru Sept) is so needed to help cool off.
Very balanced review. I prefer my vstrom to the Tiger I had before; it’s not a better bike, it just suits my needs better. I agree with just about everything you said, especially the handle bars being not quite right. I replaced the windscreen with an improved givi, as well as putting on decent foot pegs and a genuine baseplate. I also put on a Leo Vince can which gave me a wee bit more power and a whole lot of sound. It’s reliable, easy, fun and at 66 I don’t need to keep up with anything. Thanks for the good work. Subscribed!
I used to be a big Yamaha guy. Owned 8 different sport and cruisers that they make all the way up to their 1900 cruiser. 3 years ago I got a 2019 VStrom 650XT and it's arguably the best bike I've ever owned. I don't know why people say it's so bland and not fun. It's a ton of fun.
Your reviews are getting better with each video and are perfectly fine in the current format. I prefer a more detailed version. Each section is time stamped so people can go to section of interest if needed. Well done and thanks for the time taken to put these videos together.
thanks for sharing and today i was made my choice after watch your review. I was spend almost 1 month to decide either Versys 650 or CB500x. But today i was get my VStrom 650. 🤗 ...
Congratulations. I was in exactly the same situation and after many evaluations and considerations I bought the V-Strom. I bought the Black With Blue. 2024. In Brazil it is more powerful and with more . torque
I am a recent subscriber, but I will be a loyal one, as I enjoy your content & presentation. Here in rural Western Franklin County, Massachusetts I've been riding for the last 12 years with a group of retired guys called "The Hells' Elders" as one of their kids calls us. I've met 18 of them in my early association, but due to attrition, our numbers are dwindling. Several of them went through the Nuclear Navy Sub Corps in the '60's & were placed in Nuke Plants after their discharge from the Service. They seem to be dying from cancer or mesothelioma, but nobody will blame the Service or their job environment for their demise as they all have tasty retirement pensions. My point is that several of the members have, among other brands, 650 & 1,000 cc V-Stroms as their primary rides. My Road Capitan has over 146,000 miles on his 650 with no engine work so far. He's been around the Country twice & has bagged about all of the contiguous U.S. States. On one trip he logged 26 States in 21 days, 12 National Parks & 9,100 miles on the same synthetic engine oil. That bike just keeps logging smooth miles. As I mentioned in a previous vid, my sport tourer is the 2008 Suzuki GSF1250/S Bandit, which I love more every time that I ride it. I've done 3 trips with a group of six in the past, averaging 11 days & 3,000 miles. That is about my personal limitation for extended trips. I don't have the attention span to be in the saddle for more than 12 hours per day, although I did an 18 hour day on one trip down South on the Outer Banks. I didn't put my head on a pillow until 1:30am the next day, as we traversed the entire island & had to turn around & travel back North to find motel vacancies that day in September. It was like the height of vacation season, even though schools were back in session. I'm 72 now, but that happened about 8 years ago.
No surprise that the lighter Vstrom 650 is better offroad than Vstrom 1000. This is true with any manufacturer. I very rarely go off road and so the Vstrom 1000 is an excellent all arounder for me, with better brakes and acceleration than the 650. Nice review as always.
Laurie from Australia here, You asked if we prefer the longer or shorter tests, my opinion is for the longer, it allows for the deeper more in-depth view point but that is just one opinion. Keep up the good work.
I don't remember other reviewers doing full panic stops. That's a good original element to review. Also, I really liked your suspension travel camera view.
Fantastic review...one of the most honest, thorough and all around informative reviews I’ve watched, regardless of bike. I own a ‘15 Strom 650 and it’s been reliable, capable and a blast to ride. 13K miles later and I highly recommend it.
2015 loaded DL is what I bought new in 2015. Added heated grips, lift and set-back bar risers, Twisted Throttle skid pan integrate to the OEM plastic engine guard, 12V power port, shock sox. All the other goodies from crash bars, adjustable windscreen with the deflector (ZERO BUFFETING) upgraded seat, black Suzuki labelled aluminum panniers and tail box, brush guards etc. included with the designated DL650 AX/EXPL with ABS. The best thing on two wheels.
Great review, matches my experiences with Gen1 DL650s. I've logged over 150,000 miles on two DL650 bikes (new 2006 and used 2005). Rode the 2020 DL650 XT Adv and 2020 DL1050XT, and found they are still great bikes, but not too far removed from my Gen1. In the end I decided to just keep my current 2005 for another 50,000 miles and troll for good deals on an a used DL650XT. I loved the ride of the Tiger 800XC, and do like the idea of the T700. But I like to take 9 day trips into Canada and around the Eastern half of the USA. For what I do the DL650 is the perfect bike. Out west or doing more 2up than just a ride out to dinner I would probably change over the the DL1050XT. Since my wife rides her own DL650, our touring is solo, and the 650cc is near perfect with camping gear in Givi luggage. Literally I'm a happy camper on my Wee.
I own one, and I have to say, that's a very accurate review. Good job. I would 100% recommend this bike to anyone on a budget or anyone that doesn't want to break the bank.
It seems to be a popular summary of the v-strom,it's ok cos it won't break the bank.Another words it's chep!I paid $13k aussies to put my '17,650xt on the road & as far as I'm concerned it was worth every cent.Ok Suzuki are not Bmw or Ducati but guess what they perform as good!
Most thorough review of the 650 that I've seen! Thank you! I purchased the same bike about two months ago and there were few detailed reviews and now I know that i made a great decision and it's the right bike...for me! Now If I could just get comfortable on the seat after 90 mins it would be perfect!
Wow...one of the best reviews I have seen by far. Thorough, yet to the point! I have a 2019 650 DL and love it so far but you are right, there are limitations for sure. As you mentioned however, If you look at the whole package and consider the versatility, reliability/maintenance, and the price, this bike is so hard to beat. Add to that the fact that parts are everywhere and affordable you really can't lose on the weestrom. Cheers!
I really appreciate your reviews. They are accurate, informative, comprehensive and truthful. I do like the length of them as well. I have a 2019 DL 650XT and like it very much. I definitely agree with all your comments and opinions based on your experiences and they parallel my own exactly. Please keep up the good work. The 650 V Twin punches way above its weigh. This motorcycle may not be 'glamorous' as a GS or 'impressive' like a Multistrada, and it certainly has its faults and limitations, like any motorcycle, but overall, it is a lot more than it might seem to be in many ways. It is undeniably fun to ride, bulletproof reliable, reasonably capable, economical to buy and maintain, very frugal with fuel, and just plain very easy to live with. For some, that is enough.
Another great video! I bought a new 2017 Vstrom 650XT and absolutely LOVE it. I'm 6'3" and 210 lbs and had the same issues you mentioned - bars too far forward and seat to peg measure is too short. Solution: 2 inch Rox pivoting bar risers and lowering pegs. Also added cleated metal pegs, T-Rex crash bars and skid plate. I stand a lot and wanted wider foot pegs and needed taller bars and lower pegs for my back when standing. I've now added Givi hard luggage and like them also. Buffeting: I added a Givi Airflow windshield - stopped about 85% of the buffeting - would be more if I were shorter. What you said about the intuitive handling and decent power have me hooked on this model (I'm 73 and don't ride very aggressively anyway). I've only owned a few bikes and still ride a Husaberg FE390, a Kawasaki Versys X300 and now the Vstrom 650XT. The Strom is by far my favorite bike I've owned or ridden.Very comfortable as you mentioned. Great power for a 500 lb 650! It''s perfect for this 73 year old geezer. -StromGeezer
@@honzasgarage5125 Yes. The fit was close. At first I thought I might have to re-route the cable or get a longer one, but it worked - been working for 3 years now, I ONLY get the Pivoting model of the Rox Risers. Mine are 2".
This was a well done review that covered quite a lot of material in a well organized fashion. I'm considering buying this bike used because it ticks off a lot of the boxes in what I want. Fuel injection, liquid cooled, ABS, highway capable, reasonable priced used for a late 2000s w/abs to 2012 (first gen2) model. I like that you took this off road and showed its limitations with stockshocks. I like that you showed it at highway speed on road. So this was helpful for me in evaluating the bike before I start really shopping. Thank you and good luck with your channel.
I bought my 650 V-Strom, Adventure Model, as reviewed, in May 2019 (2018 model). Just about to turn 10,000 km. Almost no off-road, just highway and back roads. When I bought it, I had a higher high seat fitted and lower pegs. (I'm 6' 2", and riding the standard model leaves me with knee and leg pain after 30 minutes.) Excellent review. FYI, my two previous bikes were a Suzuki Bandit 1,200S and a BMW F650GS. I think the V-Strom gives me the best of both those bikes. Thanks for an interesting video.
Still got my ‘09 wee. Your review explains my bike apart from the electronics. Super reliable and willing worker. I’m just about to embark on a 3000k return trip into the Aussie outback. I have come to expect 0 issues from the wee. Puts the expensive brethren into perspective. Keep the shiny side up and all is well.
Great stuff as always. Please keep the long review format since it's more informative. In early videos you always mentioned measurements in metric sizes as well. For the European viewers that was nice, since that imperial old school stuff just went out of fashion over here 😉 Love your content and the fact that you are very thorough in your reviews... and you have a natural, and low key approach. It separates you from a lot of the other TH-camrs out there who can be very shouty and tiresome in the long run. All the best
What an absolute comprehensive video! I have been lately looking out for an in-depth reviews on the Vstrom 650XT and couldn’t get any reliable ones that could help me understand the bike better, until today. This bike has my heart and is definitely my next upgrade from my current Royal Enfield C500. Glad I stumble across your channel Ian! Thanks for this amazing review on the Suzuki Vstrom 650XT! 🤘🏽
I have a gen 1 ‘06 650 Vstrom. Very simple bike. No bells or whistles. And I’m fine with that. 5.8 gal tank with 55+ mpg on 87 octane. All day comfortable. Chain/sprockets can go 30k miles (VS sprocket is the first thing to go). I replaced the halogen bulbs with LED to reduce amp draw and potential melting of connectors some experience. I’ve not had the issue. Road handling is remarkably good. The 19” ft wheel seems to calm everything. It’s a very calm bike. No drama. The engine is a little magical. And I’m a many decades Ducati owner. It draws you in and feels better as time goes on. Susp and brakes are fine. Just get the ride height set right, and you’re good. Dampening and spring rates are spot on for my 175 body. Did I mention I own multiple Ducatis? Overall, I think the presenter is spot on in his review. Oh, and I like the old school round analog clocks. Finally, one thing I kinda disagree on is the idea that the Vstrom is a decent off road bike. It’s not. It’s totally not. I own dirt bikes. The Vstrom isn’t a dirt bike. Get a little carried away and the ft end will tuck very easily. Oh, gearing, stock it’s a little low. I went up one tooth on the cs, but two teeth might be perfect for anything that could legitimately be called a road.
an excellent and comprehensive review! I've been riding for 50 years (my first bike was a '66 two-stroke auto lube Yamaha 100!)...I've concluded that in large measure one's choice of bike is enhanced if you keep a laser-like focus on "what am I going to use it for?'/"how much will I be using it?'/ 'what is the environment I typically bike in? (ie I live downtown or I live in the country...) and "what kind of bike fits to my height and body shape?' While the adventure market has exploded with all sorts of new and shiny products, for me, I see big advantage in a design that has been a consistent success for an extended period of time with the manufacturer listening to its owners and evolving the machine in a continuous improvement cycle...If you are a keen off-roader, I do think there are more focused off-road machines that would be the better choice. However, if you are more of an asphalt warrior (and in particular if you enjoy secondary roads rather than interstate highways) the 650 XT is a joy to fling around....and makes an ordinary rider (like me) better...
John, I had that very same bike,, the Yamaha 100, I was proud as a peacock riding that bike, what great memories, I bought that bike with my own money I saved working my paper route delivering the Portsmouth Herald. I have the 2015 Suzuki Vstrom 650, I moto camp with that bike all over New England , I’ve been averaging 63 mpg on my trips, can’t believe the mileage I’m getting with that bike!
Great review of a great bike....Totally agree about your take on the T7: definitely the right choice for off road. The V Strom is fantastic for an all around commuter, tourer, etc.....
@Big Rock Moto, This is a very fair review that would allow a rider to buy it or choose something more suitable. I bought a new 2017 version (current shape) as a returning rider to tour on-road with very occasional riding on well maintained gravel roads / fire trails, and it’s perfect for that. Here are some mods I made to the stock bike prior to taking delivery: - Givi crash bars and bash plate, including to protect the exposed oil filter. - Barkbuster hand guards. - Centre stand. Makes tyre and chain maintenance easy. - TomTom biker sat-nav. Very good investment, to take the stress out of navigation and anticipating corners in poor visibility (like X-ray vision in fog). - Givi Airflow after-market windshield. I’m 6 foot, and use it in the lowest position to take the wind off my chest, the buffetting off my helmet but still exposed to smooth airflow to the helmet. - Givi Trekker hard aluminium panniers and top box. Great for touring, without having to worry about my stuff getting stolen. - Denali LED auxiliary lights. They really light up the night. - OEM heated grips. Essential for year-round riding. - Omnicruise throttle lock. Not as good as electronic cruise control, but it is a cheap bike. Just fine on flat boring freeways to give my throttle hand a break. - Givi sidestand base “enlarger”, to prevent the sidestand digging in to soft ground. - ScottOil E-system automatic chain oiler. It’s nice to not have to worry about chain lubing while touring. The bike has been bulletproof. Just do the scheduled servicing, and have fun experimenting with the good range of tubeless rubber available for these rims. I’m running my second set of Tourance tyres right now. I have done some long-ish tours (eg. 14-16 days) and have total confidence it could take me and my luggage on a loop of Australia, any time. - One minor thing I intend to put on are some of those mirror extenders, to make it easier to see around my shoulders. The engine really loves to rev. Sometimes I wish it had a little more torque and longer gearing for more relaxed freeway touring and over-taking, but no deal-breaker for solo touring with luggage. Yeah, I sometimes dream about a new V-strom 1050XT, Super Tenere or the Triumph Tiger 900, but do I need them? No, my Wee strom is really all the bike I need.
Thanks for a no-nonsense, objective review. I've watched this twice and it really helps me understand the ADV candidates and selection issues that I need to consider before buying my next bike... Soon! Good job. You are there best thing too come along since MCN magazine!
Great review. There's a relatively quick way to turn off the ABS that I can confirm works on my 2019: First: Make sure ABS is on: Start the bike and ride it forward (usually about 15-20 feet) until the ABS light goes off. This indicates that the ABS controller is calibrated and working. Second: "Spoof" the ABS controller: Without shutting the bike off, pop it up on the center-stand, kick it into 2nd gear, release the clutch, and roll the back wheel past an indicated 10mph or so until the ABS light turns back on. (This usually takes a few seconds.) You have now "confused" the ABS controller and it will remain off until you shut the bike off and restart it.
Great review, you nailed it. I had a 2009 and I see some points have not changed. I installed peg lowering plate, moved the handle bars 1” higher, 1” back, for a Marstad windshield. It was great as a first bike for me. No crazy acceleration, easy to cruise, powerful enough for long trips with full paniers. Not the best, but 75% at all.
Your channel is a diamond! I have the DL 650 2004 here in Iceland. I have gone far and wide in the highlands here and the bike has been great in very challenging situations. No breakdowns and such a ton of fun for almost no money! Just one video in my channel, from one of my highland trips 😆
Great and totally spot on review. I have a 2014 version and not much has really changed. One thing I tell all my V Strom riding friends to do is to lower the pegs with the Adventure Tech kit, which makes a huge difference, especially if you have long legs. The other thing you noted about the harsh off road ride......lose the stock tires as soon as possible! The feel like rocks on sharper hits, even just going into parking lots or driveways. I thought there was something wrong with my forks until I changed the tires. And add a real skidplate. These things make it nearly a perfect do it all bike.
Your review is spot on. I'm on my third V-strom (#1 gave to Son, #2 could not bring into Ecuador)...love this bike. It is NOT an off-road adventure bike...I wish Suzuki would stop with the "Adventure" marketing. V-strom is a great road bike, all-day comfort (with a Sargent seat), beautiful engine, handles wonderfully, great reliability, not a ton of expensive bells & whistles, very affordable to maintain, huge dealer and shop network, and does good dirt roads well. Get the base model, set it up the way you want it, and you're good to go. Spend time on this bike and you'll love it.
Great review, exact shortcomings I identified after driving mine. Lowered the pegs, moved the bars back one inch, got a better seat and Givi Airflo. Just a great , reliable partner, especially if you plan on touring at normal speeds on two lane roads. In Canada , a 2017 base model could be had for $5300 USD in 2018 with a 5 year warranty. Great deal. The Horn is useless
ABS: at least for the gen 3, and you need a center stand for this: Ride a few feet until the ABS light goes out, then without shutting off the bike put it in neutral and up on the center stand. Then shift it into 2nd gear and let the clutch out and let it idle with the back wheel spinning and front wheel on the ground. Within a few minute or so the ABS will error out and turn off. It will stay off until you turn the key off and back on. Excellent review! I love my 2018 Wee.
Good review. I have the same bike and dropped the foot controls 1 inch (online aftermarket kit) which makes it better for 6 foot 2 rider, also bar back risers. Great bike, plenty if power for real world riding and two up is very comfy. Love this bike and will keep it for a long time!
That was a very helpful review. I sat on the VSTROM 1050 and 800 DE models at the motorcycle show, and didn't like the inability to flatfoot them. I am seriously considering this bike, and your review here is helping me along.
Awesome review like always. You can disconnect the ABS for off road….Put the bike on center stand, start an go in 2 nd gear ….after a while, the bike will detect and problem and will disable ABS ( unfortunately TC too ) it will be back to normal on the next crank.
I just bought one 650 xt ,after more than 40 bikes owned,including 1150gs 1200gs,v-strom 1000 xt,and a tenere 700;I am 68 and for travelling through Europe and Morocco,I choose a reliable,easy going bike suitable for all my needs and having a good ratio pleasure/cost. your video is very instructive with facts and no blabla,good vidéo quality.thanks and hi from France
I own a 2019 V-Strom 650 XT and the review is spot-on. My biggest gripe is that the suspension is undersprung and I think if you take it off-road it should be high on the priority list to upgrade. The channel Trail Trash ADV has a great review of the suspension upgrades he did to the V-Strom 650 for off-road. I've personally upgraded the front suspension as well as added a fork-brace from AdventureTech and it helped tremendously with the off-road harshness mentioned during the review. I haven't upgraded my rear suspension yet but it is high on my list and if you plan to put more than 200 pounds on the bike (including your own weight) I would recommend getting a stiffer rear-spring. Without luggage and just my weight I'm already at near max preload for the rear. I love the bike and I believe it is perfect for the person who spends most of their time on the road but does the occasional off-road or dirt-road excursion.
Excellent review. You covered everything in detail using plain easily understood language, and telling us your views and experience. No gloss or bs and no ax to grind. Well done!
I’ve owned 3 650’s and the latest being a 2019. My wife and I toured the northwestern US for 3 weeks in 2019 loaded down with stuff and the bike had lots of power. That bike was a 2012 with hard bags and trunk. Love them all.
Great review. Thank you very much. I have the 2020 V-Strom 650 XT and agree 100% with the points you make. I also appreciate the perspective you bring based on your significantly greater offload experiance compared to mine.
I own one vstrom 650 xt. Great bike. Great at streets and commute. Next month I will use it in rally obvius in easy mode and slow. I recomend it. Its the 3rd vstrom that I have
Love your videos first of all. I have a 2017 vstrom 650 and love it. I bought it new and have been on the fence of maybe getting something bigger but when I get on this thing it does everything I want it to do and more. I have had many adventures on this this bike and am now planning on keeping it for many more. bigger is not always better... cheers.
BRM thankx..another great review...I have both Vstroms.. a 2018 1000xt and a 2015 dl650 the 650 is dead quiet..valve train ect..smooth..handles well in the twistys..stock luggage rack..nice seat..gauge package good..uses reg gas.. 60mpg all day long..NOW lets talk about the 1000xt..hydrophilic slipper clutch...way better..brakes..linked..fantastic..suspension.. better..far more adjustable..front forks upside down susp..better beans tellin ya.. lets talk power... wow.. not even close..yes the 1000xt has more engine noise..gear driven cams, not chain..much more low end torque.. I rarely get above 6k rpm..eats miles all day effortless..the 1000xt uses premium gas 90 octane or higher..mpg 50..on a budget..get the 650..used price at a considerable discount...paid 5k for mine..900 miles..like new..gotta say tho..I spend more time on the 1000 ..it really is a great bike..faced with a choice of just 1..? I like the 1000xt..I do :0) my advice ride both ..make a choice..OR have both..lol anywho my 2 cents..ps put a yoshi carbon pipe on mine yesssssssss ..pic cdn.ebizautos.media/new-2018-suzuki-v~strom-1000xt-7582-19364728-3-1024.jpg
I have a 2014 Versey 650 and a 2019 1000xt Adventure. I feel the same way as you. My 650 is a fun economical bike, but I love the extra torque of the DL1000!
I have 2018 1000XT black same as you. Previously owned 2013 650 Adventure. Hands down the 1000 is better in all ways except fuel economy and engine a bit smoother including as you stated suspension, brakes, power, aded safety w/5 axis IMU. I personally dont like flogging a bike to get it up and moving. The 1000 has awesome torque and you can click through the gears and get up to highway speeds and bey9nd without it breaking a sweat. Two up riding is definitely far superior. I'm really disappointed what Suzuki did with the 1050 as it does not inspire me to upgrade from what I already have as they are asking too much and not providing relative incremental value. Base model 1050 is more expensive than 2019 1000 model and in the process they took away 5 axis IMU safety and still no cruise control. To get cruise control you need to buy XT and then also pay for bolt-on items like crash bars and centerstand that you can buy aftermarket at most likely 50 percent lower price. I would like Suzuki to introduce a Touring version of XT minus spike rims and complete with quick shifter and premium suspension. They also need to up e engine displacent and increase power by at least 20-30 percent to close gap on BMW and KTM. If they did those things they would dsfinteky attract more riders.
Good vid. Had previously written you off as just another paid-for reviewer, though this was a great showing of this bike. I have more respect now for your knowledge and ability to translate the specs and performance into how it works in the real world.
an excellent, thorough, balanced, realistic, professional review with nothing missed and no time wasted (a rarity on youTube). thank you... I am most certain that a 650 V-Strom will be my next bike.
loved the reference to Yannis from kokkinafegaria smashing his dl650! Vstrom was my first bike and loved it! Took me on vacation, traveled with my wife, used it for everyday chores etc. best work horse for everyday use. very reliable, easy and cheap to maintain too.
Good review, and you pointed out exactly what this bike is designed to do, and those are all of the reasons I bought it for. I traded in an HD Lowrider for this because I wanted a different style of riding, and the V-Storm will help me decide if I want to go any further in a serious off road direction. Spot on most adventure bikes do not do serious off roading.
Hey thanks for that comment, I have a 12 Fatboy,and I like it , but, I think I would love this Vstrom, I think this would be perfect for me, I’m not tall,5’8’,185,and I was just hesitant about selling my HD,but I think I’m going to do,can it use 87 octane? Thanks
I'm on my 4th WeeStrom, an '18 yellow one and have only been in 65 countries riding full-time over the past 12 years until Covid stuck me here in Ecuador. I like your review and look forward to others.
Very good & fair points, thank you for the video. Great overall value, 20L/5 gallon gas tank & huge range, great torquey motor & traction control at this price range, hard to beat!! I have a 2018 Vstrom 650XT - at just over 6ft, you are right, the legroom - I got the higher seat & the adventure peg adapter lowering pegs by 1 inch, this really helped. Buffeting, true, try the Givi adjustable windshield - and the Suzuki mirror extenders which move them further out - so much of the buffeting comes from the mirrors. The clearance - yes, the oil filter is right down there unprotected pointing forward- - definitely a concern. Motor- - lots of fun and torquey! Overall, this is a street bike, not an off-roader - yes, you can do gravel & fire roads, but let's not kid ourselves, the front suspension does suck offroad. Love the bike, but for offroad, I have a Suzuki DRZ400 & DR650 for that. Again, great points and great video, keep up the good work!
I would like that bike in blue with the gold rims. I went to the bike show to see this bike. So it is defiantly one of my favorites. I have not ridden in over 35 years, so it is about time to get back in.
I suspect the buffeting is mostly from those big square mirrors, that look like the ones theyve always used. I changed them to a much "sleeker" pair on my old 2006 wee-strom and it made a big difference.
Hands down best review I’ve seen on this motorcycle. I’m a cruiser rider and own a Harley-Davidson Heritage Classic that I love but am looking for a lower cost and lighter weight 2nd bike that’s just different from the Heritage. I’ve owned Suzukis before and have been happy with their reliability and comfort. This looks like it fits the bill. Thanks again for the detailed review.
I had a 2012 V-Strom 650 but sold it in favor of the 2014 V-Strom 1000. For me as a larger rider (240lbs) I appreciate the added power and grunt, and it just seems more stable at highways speeds compared to the 650.
Agreed that for off roading the VStrom is not as capable as the Tenere 700 but I took the VStrom 650XT to Moab and with some Anakee Wild tires, It is still a very capable bike on the trails, yes you have to be careful with the ground clearance but beside that, this bike rocks.
The V Strom 650 is the best bike I ever rode, after 45 years being riding motorcycle I never found a bike can out beat this bike, I have a 2009 but the 2017 and up is the one to have hope Suzuki not change this bike there nothing to change on it, from 2004 to now it's the best bike for the money hands down.
Watching your throttle hand brings to mind one of the biggest missteps with most road going bikes - a long throttle pull. First thing I do with every bike I get is to check throttle rotation and shorten the throw (usually). And, as I seem to pick bikes that are out of the mainstream, I have to engineer my own throttle tube solution (typically a piece of PVC pipe glued and pinned to the OEM throttle tube). I prefer about 1/8th turn and find that to be no problem on road. My current Triumph Tiger really woke up when the throttle throw was shortened. Cheapest performance mod available!
The V-Strom650 is definitely the better all-round bike, compared to the 1000. However, my Vstrom1000 (03), is still my favorite bike to date (owned DRZ400s, DR650s, WR426, KTM950 and Africa Twin). I raced my VStrom, so it is a capable bike, if you know what you are doing. It was a handful off-road, but I still managed to ride mine over sand dunes.
I want to hear all of your thoughts on the reviewed motorcycle no matter how long it takes. Time stamps are for those that don't have the time for a long review. Please don't edit out parts to make a 30 minute cut off. Your information is valuable. I want to hear it all. You are the best resource when choosing a new bike. I don't like making mistakes when spending my hard earned money and highly value your opinion. Say it all my friend, down to the smallest details.
I think your review was excellent as always. I owned a 2006 V strom 650 for 14 years......flawless. I own several bikes now but one of them is the 2019 V strom 1050 Adventure. The 1000 has a lot more lower end grunt, it has adjustable front suspension, it has excellent brakes, it has a hydraulic clutch. I think my 650 was better handling in the corners but I love my 1000 for reasons stated above. When you are traveling far from home reliability is king, thus my choice of the V strom over other adventure bikes.
I like your longer reviews ..very informative and to the point so you can cover pretty much everything and they do not seem 30 minutes long... they flow well... love my 1st gen Vstrom 650 .. I like the amount of ground clearance and suspension, it keeps me in check speed wise off road as to not hurt myself too bad when I do go down (often!...LOL)
Great review. The seat height is 32.9" not 33.5" though. I think the 1050 is 33.5". I agree it's an awesome all-rounder and that 645cc V-Twin engine is super reliable. Suzuki has had 20 years to perfect it. I bought a 2020 XT last August and just love it. I added heated grips and a center stand to mine and use it mostly for touring on paved roads. It's perfect for that! Very comfortable on long rides and when the road gets twisty it's better than I expected. I have suprised many riders on sport bikes and nakeds by easily keeping up with them on the V-Strom.
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1050 looks gorgeous
More time reviews better!
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Wowwwww cool bumblebee beemer, man! Wait... wtf? Hehehh I have a 04' wee-strom since 05', but c'mon man!
the best 650cc
The v Strom 650 is not a off road bike this is a commuter motorcycle and one of the best bike in the market , I have a 2009 now and a 2017 honestly this bike is the best bike ever rode on my life, good in fuel, comfortable, good power, good on insurance, very reliable, good price, never break down, honestly I can't ask for better bike. Thank Suzuki and please no make any change this bike is perfect hands down.
Here’s my testimonial: Since 2009 I’ve bought three new Wee Strom’s; collectively - over tundra and through jungles - they’ve withstood over 270 000 hard kilometers and all three are still running. I bought my first ‘Strom as an overreaction to my Beemer’s wonky and very expensive issues, never thought I’d respect the Wee - then, that little V-twin stole my heart. The reliability is higher, and the cost of ownership is far lower on the three ‘Stroms than my other bikes. That said, I do wish Suzuki would produce a more expensive special edition Wee with upgraded brakes, suspension, lights (I’ll do the exhaust); until they do that, I’ll postpone buying another. Over fifty years of riding, the V-Strom remains one of my favorite motorcycles and, I’d argue, one of the best “real world” motorcycles ever produced.
awesome thank you so much for posting. great real world info.
I have 2 V-Stroms a bought new 2005 650, and a used 06 1000. Great bikes, my history is in off road with a varied type of early day's racing. I will age out (almost 67) before these bikes wear out.Lets see, 55 years riding and yes it would be great for an upgraded version. You sir nailed it! My BMW sits!
and I agree, with over 30 years of experience, never thought this smaller bike would resonate with me, but it did big time.. and if you take it a bit slower, it does fine on adventures, also because of the smoothness of the engine, its a big advantage, so forgiving..
@Jay Bee The lack of dealer network in the states was one of the factors in my not going with Triumph for an ADV bike. Only recently, I've started learning of build issues and kinda lousy support from Triumph.
@Jay Bee As a Harley & Kawasaki owner I understand your dilemma. Forums and social media outlets are filled with denial of issues.
If something is known, it should have already been addressed by the company or dealer.
It powers up the level of frustration when the company releases a new & improved model and doesn't address those known issues. Thats just greed, incompetence, or negligence.
My wife and I rode my 2013 V Strom 650 around the world in 2018. We did 43,000 miles and had no issues with reliability.
Was it comfortable on your butts and back? Aftermarket seats?
How long could you ride without taking a break for your butt?
@ Our stock seat was fine. We stopped 150-200 miles for fuel and a streatch at times. Otherwise we would stop to see something interesting. The most we did in a day was 400 miles in the Northern territories of Australia.
I have a 2015 Vstrom 650 and love this bike, I’m averaging 63 mpg she handles on and off road to my liking, I’m 60 years young and have a blast on this bike, do quite a bit of moto camping carries all my gear with ease, takes me on and off road with no problems, I’m. Not stump jumping,but we get in the back woods. Yup, a great bike !
I have been using the most varied types of motorcycles since I was very young and I am 60 years old.
I believe this is one of the few bikes that came closest to perfection. Legendary, iconic
I came from a DR650, which was my first bike (at 52 years old) to a 2020 Wee Adventure and I think your points are exactly on point. The 'Strom is designed as an inexpensive bike that can do most things adequately well, but it's not a "market leader" in any specific category. One thing you didn't mention that's also great about the Wee Strom is its legendary reliability - this thing is as reliable as an anvil. If TH-cam is to be believed, I seem to be the only person in the US who can only have one motorcycle (at a time), and the 'Strom let's me do *everything* I got into motorcycles for: laying down slab miles on long trips comfortably, riding forest roads, *cruising* "twisties" - and it still handles OK when packed for a trip so it's a great moto-camping companion that won't leave you stranded.
For awhile I was kicking myself because I didn't wait for the T7 to come out -- that looks like an *amazing* bike. But then I realized that, as you pointed out, I am not a hardcore dirt rider and I honestly don't get off-road more than 4-5 times per year. Once I accepted my *actual* riding parameters, I realized the 'Strom is perfect for me.
does it gulp oil at highway speeds? my 08 KLR does. for that reason i want to get rid of it.
It hasn't ever needed an oil "top off" between changes. So far it doesn't appear to burn a measurable amount of oil.
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Totally agree with everything in this review in particular that the 650 is the better bike.Sunce 2002 I have had 9 vstroms 4 dl 1000 and 5 dl650 and have never had a problem with any of them
Excellent. I am currently 52 and I also have a DR650 and I'm considering the V Strom 650. I appreciate your testimony.
After watching tons of videos yours convinced me that the Strom was the best for me. Last week I bought a used 17,000 mile 2015 adventure model that looks like new. I’m in heaven! I don’t know why people insist on riding these like they’re a sport bike in the videos. it’s a great basic all around do everything bike that’s so comfortable.
Don't worry about your videos being too short or too long and don't try to adapt too much! Your videos are my favourite motorcycle videos and are always great!
I agree! Don't try to chase susbscribers. Do your thing. Do it with passion and your enthusiasm will attract the people you want anyway. The others can go elsewhere.
I ride a 2009 Vstrom 650 and love it. It's a fantastic bike. Closing in on 110k miles!
I bought mine almost 2 yrs ago, and with Suzuki's incentives I got it out the door for 7,500 USD (base model). I have dropped it a few times in the mountains without guards and the plastics only have a few scraps, for character. It's awesome in the twisties, gets great MPG (58), though this has fallen on windy days on the interstate to as low as 42. The buffeting is an issue, most just get an extender. I love the styling of the 1050, and the extra speed would be nice but at circa 50% higher cost, lower MPG, more weight and only about a 10 mph top end increase--I just can't see it as the better buy for a solo rider. What I really love about his bike, besides the v twin, is that if I wreck it or it gets stolen or some other disaster--it's not the end of the world. The economic component of motorcycling is one thing that attracted me, and the V Strom is fabulous in that regard: it ain't a GS, or a boat, so buy that premium beer and steak at the restaurant you just journeyed to, because you deserve it!
thanks for sharing that is an awesome price
Now that's a V-Strom attitude earned ! Stay safe have fun!
"so buy that premium beer and steak at the restaurant you just journeyed to, because you deserve it!" - well said! Wait... no beer... can't drink and ride! Gonna have a bigger steak! :D
You have to remember that the V-Strom isn't really meant to go off road and over here in Europe it's regarded as a touring / everyday commuting bike , its popular here because of the large tank and great fuel consumption allied to good handling and bulletproof reliability .
I agree.It's about 90 road & 10 off.
Makes sense
@@coconuciferanuts339 Tell my brother that! He takes his through REALLY gnarly southern ca sand rock strewn trails.....BONE STOCK....30k MILES and going strong
At this point just buy the SV650... you can put bags on that, too.
@@nigelwolfe6150 Sounds like your bro.is a good,strong rider.I'm abit of a light-weight myself & after a few spills don't want any more scratches on me '17,650xt.Still getting over sprained ankle.Cheers Nigel.Den.
I have a 2020 650 Vstrom XT adventure and my wife has the 2019 XT Touring. We love the bikes. We like to go camping and the pannier capacity on the XT adventure is great. I don't use the bike for much off road stuff because its not fun to pick it up and clearly never intended for rough off road. I have a DR 650 for some of that. In my opinion it seems, that at some time in the recent past, somebody convinced the public that adventure meant serious off-roading and single track riding. That just isn't true. It makes no sense to expect the Vstrom to perform off road like the T-7 There are lots of lighter, more agile bikes for that. You do excellent reviews and I appreciate your videos a lot. Keep up the good work.
Thanks and agreed!
I have a 2005 DL650 and it just passed 90,000 miles with normal maintenance, i thrash it quite a bit but it doesn’t burn a drop of oil and is boring reliable, love it. planing on taking it to Yellowstone later this year.
I purchased my V-Strom 650 this year, after riding the SV650X for four years. This bike almost runs by itself. It's so smooth and comfortable, you could ride ist all day long. Although I still keep my SV650X, for longer rides and bike holidays, the V-Strom is always my first choice. I tested the Triumph Tiger Sport 660 in May and was rather disappointed. It took me almost two minutes to find the neutral, however the dealer offered it for the same price as the V-Strom, I decided for the V-Strom. 20 Years of experience vs first production year, easy choice.
200k and 12 years, I am still loving you.
Now this is a review.
No hyper acting kids.
Straight to the point.
Informative and simple.
Perfect.
The DL650 was my introduction to adventure bikes. What a great bike! Suzuki did a fantastic job on this motorcycle.
For some reason the Japanese bikes have a penchant for undersprung suspension. I put new springs in my V-strom and a Racetech gold valve kit and it made the bike 100% better.
This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen on any bike. The video was concise (even at 34 min) and provided all the information a prospective buyer would need. I bought the VStrom 1000XT Adventure about 18 months ago and really like it (heavier rider). I did change a number of things (skid plate, pegs, mirror extenders, windscreen, bars up and back). I don’t do much off pavement riding but felt the extra protection was mandatory. In hindsight, with a review like you provided, I probably would have been just as pleased with the 650 version. The only real negative I have found with the 1000 is poor fuel economy with the luggage installed and interstate speeds.
I have a 2019 1000xt Adventure. What skid plate and bar risers did you go with?
I'm in the market for both, don't want to change cables and hoses. I just hit 5k miles and noticed my fuel mileage has increased a bit from 41 to43 mpg.
@@elitetileandstone roxspeedfx.com/collections/adv-dual-sport-dirt-bike-handlebar-risers/products/1-1-4-block-offset-risers-for-7-8-or-1-1-8-handlebar These risers worked without changing any cables. Installed them “backwards” to move the handlebars closer to me. This also raised them but not as much as if installed in the “forward” direction. For me personally, this made a huge difference on my lower back as that I don’t have to lean as far forward.
@@elitetileandstone www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sw-motech-skid-plate-suzuki-v-strom-1000-2014-2016?sku_id=1018466 I have a 2019 VStrom 1000XT Adventure. This skid plate was easy to install and worked with the OEM crash bars which I believe are actually made by SW Motech also.
@@elitetileandstone Your fuel mileage is interesting. When on backroads where speed is typically less than 60 mph, I get 50 mpg even with luggage installed. During interstate riding at speeds between 70-80 mph I have gotten as low as 35 mpg with luggage installed depending on wind conditions and as high as 40 mpg. Without luggage installed on the interstate I get 42-44 mpg. I have about 4500 miles on my bike.
The soft bags will be better. The hard bagd is swuare on the wind basically a windsoc
I own a 2020 V-Strom 650 Adventure that I have ridden 13,XXX mile. Previous bike BMW R1200GS Adventure. I switched to the V-Strom because the BMW was getting too big and heavy for me to handle at almost 70 years old.
I find the V-Strom a joy to ride, easy on road and good on forest service roads. You just need to know your limitations.
This past weekend I attended a BMW Campout, the V-Strom gets lots of attention. We're a bunch of old guys.
I find compared to BMW the Suzuki is cheap to own. Burn regular gasoline, oil filters compared to BMW are cheap, lower cost insurance.
I am sure in the near future many of my riding buddies will down size.
Well said
Great review for a bike I love. I just completed a 1900 mile trip on a 2019 650 XT through the twisties of northern Idaho and over two dirt mountain passes, Skalkaho in the Sapphires and Red Rock in the Centennial mountains. The bike will go anywhere you'd take a rental car. Adjusting the sag gives you the confidence to carve through corners, loaded for touring, without leaving chicken strips on the back tire. As for passing while loaded up? You can make a 3 hop no problem. It's not recommended but we all do it. I'm 6'-3" 175 lbs. I put on: Mosko 80L bags; the Puig Touring Screen to eliminate buffeting and no bugs hit my visor; lowered the pegs 1/2" with SM Motech to get grip for standing; put on a sheep skin "Butt Saver" from Sickafus to make things more comfortable. No problem keeping up the GS 1250 and Multistrada on the ride. Any short comings the bike may have are beyond my skill level. If you only get one bike this is a good one.
I had a 2005 V-Strom 650. My experience largely agrees with your review. I rode it all over the Western US. Death Valley. The Burr Trail. Titus Canyon. Toroweap. I rode it to work every day. Great on the highway. I could drag the foot pegs. Surprisingly good on dirt roads. With a good skid plate and tires, it will surprise you with where it can go.
Fuel range is great on the V-Strom 650. Mine could go about 250 miles on a tank of gas. New ones should be approaching 300 miles.
I rarely ran out of power with the 650 engine. Typically happened at high altitude with the bike loaded down on a highway. New V-Stroms are probably better.
Replacing the stock fork springs with Progressive springs made washboard roads noticeably better.
You need a good skid plate to go off road. Just riding off a curb can scrape the skid plate.
A friend has my V-Strom now. It recently hit 90,000 miles. Still looks and runs good. At about 75,000 miles it started needing some care: new starter, new clutch, new brake rotors.
In a word: tough.
Great video.
I have had two Vstroms in two years and I am really happy.
I bought last year a Vstrom 250 and it was a great bike and after a year I sold it and bought a Vstrom 650.
Here is my take:
PROS:
1. I know the design is subjective but for me the design is pretty cool.
2. The engine, reliable, smooth and bulletproof engine. It has lots of torque and the power delivery is lineal so its really easy to ride.
3. Value, you get a lot of bike for a good price.
4. Easy maintenance.
5. Great handling and low seat.
6. Love the dash!!! Old school, big analogue tachometer that it is easy to read....I prefer this hybrid analogue / Lcd dash over a TFT anyday.
7. Balanced all around bike.
8. ABS and Traction Control.
9. Easy to use controls.
CONS:
1. You cannot turn Off the Abs.
2. It does not have LED headlight neither DRLs.
3. Engine too exposed.
4. That the windshield could be easier to rise/lower it.
Rivals:
1. Kawasaki Versys 650: great bike, more road oriented, and a little bit more expensive that the Vstrom.
2. Honda NC 750 X: great all around bike like the Vstrom, available with DCT transmission, good torque but lower power, also more expensive that the Vstrom
3 CF Moto 650 MT: a poor's man Kawasaki Versys almost clone, cool design, cheaper that the Vstrom, road oriented bike.
Thanks for reading....hope it helps.
Ride safe.
well said!
I just bought an SV-650 and for the first time experienced this engine. I'm loving it. Its so smooth, yet so characterful and even the stock exhaust sounds great. You can run it very quietly at low RPM, but also make it rev and let it roar. I can really see this as a great ADV bike engine.
This is so far the best Vee review I think. Every characteristic aspect is discussed with a realistic & informative approach. Off-road / on-road test, deep review of suspensions, motor characteristics, reliability, ground clearance, price/performance-value.
Thanks a lot.
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Would you buy a V-Strom 650 in 2021 despite the competition? Let me know below!
I have bought a 2009 dl650A, I am not a new bike buyer. I think given the fact these bikes are virtually unchanged since the first gen means I can't see the point. Personally I prefer to spend the difference addressing some the few problems you've highlighted in your review, the lack of bottom engine protection, soft suspension , better pegs and some heated grips. That motor is simply amazing, so tractable, so smooth it gives me a smile every time I take it out. Thank you for your reviews, I prefer your longer format but in either case your methodical attention to detail really grabs me.
I did bought a 2021 V-Strom 650 XT Adventure back in April and yes it is an awesome machine. I got it because of a friend, he actually told me about an "underdog bike that does not get the attention it deserved"....well he was talking about the V-Strom....
i got this bike (V-Strom 650Xt 2018) because i think it is a great all around bike maybe underrated. It's not offroad oriented as yamaha T7 or ktm 790 are (they're different beasts) it cost less and It will perform better in road trip with passenger.I did some offroad tracks with my V-strom 650xt and i think at the right speed it is doable. For an all around bike with passenger too.. i think this bike is a perfect do it all bike..
Yes, I would. I used one for a week’s tour in Italy / Slovenia. It was so easy and comfortable to use
Bought a new Suzuki 650 Vstrom in 2020, sold my 2011 Kawa 650 KLR. I like doing 90% street and around 10% off road. KLR is more geared to off road but at very least 50/50. I missed not having a 6 th gear and the V twin Suzuki gave me twice the hp (69 vs 35). So far it’s a great bike. Only thing I probably need to do is raise the handlebars maybe an inch for more comfortable stand up riding. Here in TX standing up in the hot months (May thru Sept) is so needed to help cool off.
Very balanced review. I prefer my vstrom to the Tiger I had before; it’s not a better bike, it just suits my needs better. I agree with just about everything you said, especially the handle bars being not quite right. I replaced the windscreen with an improved givi, as well as putting on decent foot pegs and a genuine baseplate. I also put on a Leo Vince can which gave me a wee bit more power and a whole lot of sound. It’s reliable, easy, fun and at 66 I don’t need to keep up with anything. Thanks for the good work. Subscribed!
I used to be a big Yamaha guy. Owned 8 different sport and cruisers that they make all the way up to their 1900 cruiser. 3 years ago I got a 2019 VStrom 650XT and it's arguably the best bike I've ever owned. I don't know why people say it's so bland and not fun. It's a ton of fun.
Your reviews are getting better with each video and are perfectly fine in the current format. I prefer a more detailed version. Each section is time stamped so people can go to section of interest if needed. Well done and thanks for the time taken to put these videos together.
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I am new to riding and shopped around and rode alot alot of bikes. I ended up with 2017 Strom 650 and I absolutely love it!
thanks for sharing and today i was made my choice after watch your review. I was spend almost 1 month to decide either Versys 650 or CB500x. But today i was get my VStrom 650. 🤗 ...
Congratulations. I was in exactly the same situation and after many evaluations and considerations I bought the V-Strom. I bought the Black With Blue. 2024. In Brazil it is more powerful and with more . torque
I am a recent subscriber, but I will be a loyal one, as I enjoy your content & presentation. Here in rural Western Franklin County, Massachusetts I've been riding for the last 12 years with a group of retired guys called "The Hells' Elders" as one of their kids calls us. I've met 18 of them in my early association, but due to attrition, our numbers are dwindling. Several of them went through the Nuclear Navy Sub Corps in the '60's & were placed in Nuke Plants after their discharge from the Service. They seem to be dying from cancer or mesothelioma, but nobody will blame the Service or their job environment for their demise as they all have tasty retirement pensions. My point is that several of the members have, among other brands, 650 & 1,000 cc V-Stroms as their primary rides. My Road Capitan has over 146,000 miles on his 650 with no engine work so far. He's been around the Country twice & has bagged about all of the contiguous U.S. States. On one trip he logged 26 States in 21 days, 12 National Parks & 9,100 miles on the same synthetic engine oil. That bike just keeps logging smooth miles. As I mentioned in a previous vid, my sport tourer is the 2008 Suzuki GSF1250/S Bandit, which I love more every time that I ride it. I've done 3 trips with a group of six in the past, averaging 11 days & 3,000 miles. That is about my personal limitation for extended trips. I don't have the attention span to be in the saddle for more than 12 hours per day, although I did an 18 hour day on one trip down South on the Outer Banks. I didn't put my head on a pillow until 1:30am the next day, as we traversed the entire island & had to turn around & travel back North to find motel vacancies that day in September. It was like the height of vacation season, even though schools were back in session. I'm 72 now, but that happened about 8 years ago.
Respect ! :)
No surprise that the lighter Vstrom 650 is better offroad than Vstrom 1000. This is true with any manufacturer. I very rarely go off road and so the Vstrom 1000 is an excellent all arounder for me, with better brakes and acceleration than the 650. Nice review as always.
Laurie from Australia here, You asked if we prefer the longer or shorter tests, my opinion is for the longer, it allows for the deeper more in-depth view point but that is just one opinion. Keep up the good work.
I don't remember other reviewers doing full panic stops. That's a good original element to review. Also, I really liked your suspension travel camera view.
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Fantastic review...one of the most honest, thorough and all around informative reviews I’ve watched, regardless of bike. I own a ‘15 Strom 650 and it’s been reliable, capable and a blast to ride. 13K miles later and I highly recommend it.
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2015 loaded DL is what I bought new in 2015. Added heated grips, lift and set-back bar risers, Twisted Throttle skid pan integrate to the OEM plastic engine guard, 12V power port, shock sox. All the other goodies from crash bars, adjustable windscreen with the deflector (ZERO BUFFETING) upgraded seat, black Suzuki labelled aluminum panniers and tail box, brush guards etc. included with the designated DL650 AX/EXPL with ABS.
The best thing on two wheels.
Hi can you tell me which lift and set back bar risers you purchased? Thank you
Great review, matches my experiences with Gen1 DL650s. I've logged over 150,000 miles on two DL650 bikes (new 2006 and used 2005). Rode the 2020 DL650 XT Adv and 2020 DL1050XT, and found they are still great bikes, but not too far removed from my Gen1. In the end I decided to just keep my current 2005 for another 50,000 miles and troll for good deals on an a used DL650XT. I loved the ride of the Tiger 800XC, and do like the idea of the T700. But I like to take 9 day trips into Canada and around the Eastern half of the USA. For what I do the DL650 is the perfect bike. Out west or doing more 2up than just a ride out to dinner I would probably change over the the DL1050XT. Since my wife rides her own DL650, our touring is solo, and the 650cc is near perfect with camping gear in Givi luggage. Literally I'm a happy camper on my Wee.
I own one, and I have to say, that's a very accurate review. Good job.
I would 100% recommend this bike to anyone on a budget or anyone that doesn't want to break the bank.
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It seems to be a popular summary of the v-strom,it's ok cos it won't break the bank.Another words it's chep!I paid $13k aussies to put my '17,650xt on the road & as far as I'm concerned it was worth every cent.Ok Suzuki are not Bmw or Ducati but guess what they perform as good!
Most thorough review of the 650 that I've seen! Thank you! I purchased the same bike about two months ago and there were few detailed reviews and now I know that i made a great decision and it's the right bike...for me! Now If I could just get comfortable on the seat after 90 mins it would be perfect!
Wow...one of the best reviews I have seen by far. Thorough, yet to the point! I have a 2019 650 DL and love it so far but you are right, there are limitations for sure. As you mentioned however, If you look at the whole package and consider the versatility, reliability/maintenance, and the price, this bike is so hard to beat. Add to that the fact that parts are everywhere and affordable you really can't lose on the weestrom. Cheers!
I really appreciate your reviews. They are accurate, informative, comprehensive and truthful. I do like the length of them as well. I have a 2019 DL 650XT and like it very much. I definitely agree with all your comments and opinions based on your experiences and they parallel my own exactly. Please keep up the good work. The 650 V Twin punches way above its weigh. This motorcycle may not be 'glamorous' as a GS or 'impressive' like a Multistrada, and it certainly has its faults and limitations, like any motorcycle, but overall, it is a lot more than it might seem to be in many ways. It is undeniably fun to ride, bulletproof reliable, reasonably capable, economical to buy and maintain, very frugal with fuel, and just plain very easy to live with. For some, that is enough.
Long or short video, for as long as you cover every details of a unit, it’s good. I rarely find these kind of videos. Thanks man!
Another great video! I bought a new 2017 Vstrom 650XT and absolutely LOVE it. I'm 6'3" and 210 lbs and had the same issues you mentioned - bars too far forward and seat to peg measure is too short. Solution: 2 inch Rox pivoting bar risers and lowering pegs. Also added cleated metal pegs, T-Rex crash bars and skid plate. I stand a lot and wanted wider foot pegs and needed taller bars and lower pegs for my back when standing. I've now added Givi hard luggage and like them also. Buffeting: I added a Givi Airflow windshield - stopped about 85% of the buffeting - would be more if I were shorter. What you said about the intuitive handling and decent power have me hooked on this model (I'm 73 and don't ride very aggressively anyway). I've only owned a few bikes and still ride a Husaberg FE390, a Kawasaki Versys X300 and now the Vstrom 650XT. The Strom is by far my favorite bike I've owned or ridden.Very comfortable as you mentioned. Great power for a 500 lb 650! It''s perfect for this 73 year old geezer. -StromGeezer
Great comments about the v-strom.I've also got the '17 xt. Thought about getting another but why when this bike does it all.
Did the bar risers fit with existing cables?
@@honzasgarage5125 Yes. The fit was close. At first I thought I might have to re-route the cable or get a longer one, but it worked - been working for 3 years now, I ONLY get the Pivoting model of the Rox Risers. Mine are 2".
This was a well done review that covered quite a lot of material in a well organized fashion. I'm considering buying this bike used because it ticks off a lot of the boxes in what I want. Fuel injection, liquid cooled, ABS, highway capable, reasonable priced used for a late 2000s w/abs to 2012 (first gen2) model. I like that you took this off road and showed its limitations with stockshocks. I like that you showed it at highway speed on road. So this was helpful for me in evaluating the bike before I start really shopping. Thank you and good luck with your channel.
I bought my 650 V-Strom, Adventure Model, as reviewed, in May 2019 (2018 model). Just about to turn 10,000 km. Almost no off-road, just highway and back roads.
When I bought it, I had a higher high seat fitted and lower pegs. (I'm 6' 2", and riding the standard model leaves me with knee and leg pain after 30 minutes.)
Excellent review. FYI, my two previous bikes were a Suzuki Bandit 1,200S and a BMW F650GS. I think the V-Strom gives me the best of both those bikes.
Thanks for an interesting video.
Still got my ‘09 wee. Your review explains my bike apart from the electronics. Super reliable and willing worker. I’m just about to embark on a 3000k return trip into the Aussie outback. I have come to expect 0 issues from the wee. Puts the expensive brethren into perspective. Keep the shiny side up and all is well.
Great stuff as always.
Please keep the long review format since it's more informative.
In early videos you always mentioned measurements in metric sizes as well. For the European viewers that was nice, since that imperial old school stuff just went out of fashion over here 😉
Love your content and the fact that you are very thorough in your reviews... and you have a natural, and low key approach. It separates you from a lot of the other TH-camrs out there who can be very shouty and tiresome in the long run.
All the best
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What an absolute comprehensive video! I have been lately looking out for an in-depth reviews on the Vstrom 650XT and couldn’t get any reliable ones that could help me understand the bike better, until today.
This bike has my heart and is definitely my next upgrade from my current Royal Enfield C500.
Glad I stumble across your channel Ian! Thanks for this amazing review on the Suzuki Vstrom 650XT! 🤘🏽
I have a gen 1 ‘06 650 Vstrom. Very simple bike. No bells or whistles. And I’m fine with that. 5.8 gal tank with 55+ mpg on 87 octane. All day comfortable. Chain/sprockets can go 30k miles (VS sprocket is the first thing to go). I replaced the halogen bulbs with LED to reduce amp draw and potential melting of connectors some experience. I’ve not had the issue. Road handling is remarkably good. The 19” ft wheel seems to calm everything. It’s a very calm bike. No drama. The engine is a little magical. And I’m a many decades Ducati owner. It draws you in and feels better as time goes on. Susp and brakes are fine. Just get the ride height set right, and you’re good. Dampening and spring rates are spot on for my 175 body. Did I mention I own multiple Ducatis? Overall, I think the presenter is spot on in his review. Oh, and I like the old school round analog clocks. Finally, one thing I kinda disagree on is the idea that the Vstrom is a decent off road bike. It’s not. It’s totally not. I own dirt bikes. The Vstrom isn’t a dirt bike. Get a little carried away and the ft end will tuck very easily. Oh, gearing, stock it’s a little low. I went up one tooth on the cs, but two teeth might be perfect for anything that could legitimately be called a road.
an excellent and comprehensive review! I've been riding for 50 years (my first bike was a '66 two-stroke auto lube Yamaha 100!)...I've concluded that in large measure one's choice of bike is enhanced if you keep a laser-like focus on "what am I going to use it for?'/"how much will I be using it?'/ 'what is the environment I typically bike in? (ie I live downtown or I live in the country...) and "what kind of bike fits to my height and body shape?' While the adventure market has exploded with all sorts of new and shiny products, for me, I see big advantage in a design that has been a consistent success for an extended period of time with the manufacturer listening to its owners and evolving the machine in a continuous improvement cycle...If you are a keen off-roader, I do think there are more focused off-road machines that would be the better choice. However, if you are more of an asphalt warrior (and in particular if you enjoy secondary roads rather than interstate highways) the 650 XT is a joy to fling around....and makes an ordinary rider (like me) better...
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John, I had that very same bike,, the Yamaha 100, I was proud as a peacock riding that bike, what great memories, I bought that bike with my own money I saved working my paper route delivering the Portsmouth Herald. I have the 2015 Suzuki Vstrom 650, I moto camp with that bike all over New England , I’ve been averaging 63 mpg on my trips, can’t believe the mileage I’m getting with that bike!
Your analysis is really good. I learnt a lot not only about the Vstrom, but also the competition.
Great review of a great bike....Totally agree about your take on the T7: definitely the right choice for off road. The V Strom is fantastic for an all around commuter, tourer, etc.....
@Big Rock Moto,
This is a very fair review that would allow a rider to buy it or choose something more suitable.
I bought a new 2017 version (current shape) as a returning rider to tour on-road with very occasional riding on well maintained gravel roads / fire trails, and it’s perfect for that.
Here are some mods I made to the stock bike prior to taking delivery:
- Givi crash bars and bash plate, including to protect the exposed oil filter.
- Barkbuster hand guards.
- Centre stand. Makes tyre and chain maintenance easy.
- TomTom biker sat-nav. Very good investment, to take the stress out of navigation and anticipating corners in poor visibility (like X-ray vision in fog).
- Givi Airflow after-market windshield. I’m 6 foot, and use it in the lowest position to take the wind off my chest, the buffetting off my helmet but still exposed to smooth airflow to the helmet.
- Givi Trekker hard aluminium panniers and top box. Great for touring, without having to worry about my stuff getting stolen.
- Denali LED auxiliary lights. They really light up the night.
- OEM heated grips. Essential for year-round riding.
- Omnicruise throttle lock. Not as good as electronic cruise control, but it is a cheap bike. Just fine on flat boring freeways to give my throttle hand a break.
- Givi sidestand base “enlarger”, to prevent the sidestand digging in to soft ground.
- ScottOil E-system automatic chain oiler. It’s nice to not have to worry about chain lubing while touring.
The bike has been bulletproof. Just do the scheduled servicing, and have fun experimenting with the good range of tubeless rubber available for these rims. I’m running my second set of Tourance tyres right now. I have done some long-ish tours (eg. 14-16 days) and have total confidence it could take me and my luggage on a loop of Australia, any time.
- One minor thing I intend to put on are some of those mirror extenders, to make it easier to see around my shoulders.
The engine really loves to rev. Sometimes I wish it had a little more torque and longer gearing for more relaxed freeway touring and over-taking, but no deal-breaker for solo touring with luggage.
Yeah, I sometimes dream about a new V-strom 1050XT, Super Tenere or the Triumph Tiger 900, but do I need them? No, my Wee strom is really all the bike I need.
Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for a no-nonsense, objective review. I've watched this twice and it really helps me understand the ADV candidates and selection issues that I need to consider before buying my next bike... Soon! Good job. You are there best thing too come along since MCN magazine!
Great review.
There's a relatively quick way to turn off the ABS that I can confirm works on my 2019:
First: Make sure ABS is on: Start the bike and ride it forward (usually about 15-20 feet) until the ABS light goes off. This indicates that the ABS controller is calibrated and working.
Second: "Spoof" the ABS controller: Without shutting the bike off, pop it up on the center-stand, kick it into 2nd gear, release the clutch, and roll the back wheel past an indicated 10mph or so until the ABS light turns back on. (This usually takes a few seconds.) You have now "confused" the ABS controller and it will remain off until you shut the bike off and restart it.
Great review, you nailed it. I had a 2009 and I see some points have not changed.
I installed peg lowering plate, moved the handle bars 1” higher, 1” back, for a Marstad windshield.
It was great as a first bike for me. No crazy acceleration, easy to cruise, powerful enough for long trips with full paniers. Not the best, but 75% at all.
Glad it helped
Your channel is a diamond! I have the DL 650 2004 here in Iceland. I have gone far and wide in the highlands here and the bike has been great in very challenging situations. No breakdowns and such a ton of fun for almost no money! Just one video in my channel, from one of my highland trips 😆
Great and totally spot on review. I have a 2014 version and not much has really changed. One thing I tell all my V Strom riding friends to do is to lower the pegs with the Adventure Tech kit, which makes a huge difference, especially if you have long legs. The other thing you noted about the harsh off road ride......lose the stock tires as soon as possible! The feel like rocks on sharper hits, even just going into parking lots or driveways. I thought there was something wrong with my forks until I changed the tires. And add a real skidplate. These things make it nearly a perfect do it all bike.
Your review is spot on. I'm on my third V-strom (#1 gave to Son, #2 could not bring into Ecuador)...love this bike. It is NOT an off-road adventure bike...I wish Suzuki would stop with the "Adventure" marketing. V-strom is a great road bike, all-day comfort (with a Sargent seat), beautiful engine, handles wonderfully, great reliability, not a ton of expensive bells & whistles, very affordable to maintain, huge dealer and shop network, and does good dirt roads well. Get the base model, set it up the way you want it, and you're good to go. Spend time on this bike and you'll love it.
Great review, exact shortcomings I identified after driving mine. Lowered the pegs, moved the bars back one inch, got a better seat and Givi Airflo. Just a great , reliable partner, especially if you plan on touring at normal speeds on two lane roads.
In Canada , a 2017 base model could be had for $5300 USD in 2018 with a 5 year warranty. Great deal. The Horn is useless
Yes I am downsizing from my 1200GSA to a VStrom 650XT
ABS: at least for the gen 3, and you need a center stand for this: Ride a few feet until the ABS light goes out, then without shutting off the bike put it in neutral and up on the center stand. Then shift it into 2nd gear and let the clutch out and let it idle with the back wheel spinning and front wheel on the ground. Within a few minute or so the ABS will error out and turn off. It will stay off until you turn the key off and back on. Excellent review! I love my 2018 Wee.
Good review. I have the same bike and dropped the foot controls 1 inch (online aftermarket kit) which makes it better for 6 foot 2 rider, also bar back risers. Great bike, plenty if power for real world riding and two up is very comfy. Love this bike and will keep it for a long time!
Thanks for the info!
That was a very helpful review. I sat on the VSTROM 1050 and 800 DE models at the motorcycle show, and didn't like the inability to flatfoot them. I am seriously considering this bike, and your review here is helping me along.
Awesome review like always. You can disconnect the ABS for off road….Put the bike on center stand, start an go in 2 nd gear ….after a while, the bike will detect and problem and will disable ABS ( unfortunately TC too ) it will be back to normal on the next crank.
I just bought one 650 xt ,after more than 40 bikes owned,including 1150gs 1200gs,v-strom 1000 xt,and a tenere 700;I am 68 and for travelling through Europe and Morocco,I choose a reliable,easy going bike suitable for all my needs and having a good ratio pleasure/cost. your video is very instructive with facts and no blabla,good vidéo quality.thanks and hi from France
Is it comfortable?
I own a 2019 V-Strom 650 XT and the review is spot-on. My biggest gripe is that the suspension is undersprung and I think if you take it off-road it should be high on the priority list to upgrade. The channel Trail Trash ADV has a great review of the suspension upgrades he did to the V-Strom 650 for off-road. I've personally upgraded the front suspension as well as added a fork-brace from AdventureTech and it helped tremendously with the off-road harshness mentioned during the review. I haven't upgraded my rear suspension yet but it is high on my list and if you plan to put more than 200 pounds on the bike (including your own weight) I would recommend getting a stiffer rear-spring. Without luggage and just my weight I'm already at near max preload for the rear.
I love the bike and I believe it is perfect for the person who spends most of their time on the road but does the occasional off-road or dirt-road excursion.
I'm 45 yo and I've owned so far 5 bikes. The VStrom has proved itself so be the best one, no doubt about it.
Excellent review. You covered everything in detail using plain easily understood language, and telling us your views and experience. No gloss or bs and no ax to grind. Well done!
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I’ve owned 3 650’s and the latest being a 2019. My wife and I toured the northwestern US for 3 weeks in 2019 loaded down with stuff and the bike had lots of power. That bike was a 2012 with hard bags and trunk. Love them all.
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Great review. Thank you very much. I have the 2020 V-Strom 650 XT and agree 100% with the points you make. I also appreciate the perspective you bring based on your significantly greater offload experiance compared to mine.
Glad it was helpful!
Hey, brand new V Strom rider here. This was a great video, I appreciate your candid review. Thanks!
I own one vstrom 650 xt. Great bike. Great at streets and commute. Next month I will use it in rally obvius in easy mode and slow.
I recomend it. Its the 3rd vstrom that I have
Love your videos first of all. I have a 2017 vstrom 650 and love it. I bought it new and have been on the fence of maybe getting something bigger but when I get on this thing it does everything I want it to do and more. I have had many adventures on this this bike and am now planning on keeping it for many more. bigger is not always better... cheers.
BRM thankx..another great review...I have both Vstroms.. a 2018 1000xt and a 2015 dl650
the 650 is dead quiet..valve train ect..smooth..handles well in the twistys..stock luggage rack..nice seat..gauge package good..uses reg gas.. 60mpg all day long..NOW lets talk about the 1000xt..hydrophilic slipper clutch...way better..brakes..linked..fantastic..suspension.. better..far more adjustable..front forks upside down susp..better beans tellin ya.. lets talk power... wow.. not even close..yes the 1000xt has more engine noise..gear driven cams, not chain..much more low end torque.. I rarely get above 6k rpm..eats miles all day effortless..the 1000xt uses premium gas 90 octane or higher..mpg 50..on a budget..get the 650..used price at a considerable discount...paid 5k for mine..900 miles..like new..gotta say tho..I spend more time on the 1000 ..it really is a great bike..faced with a choice of just 1..? I like the 1000xt..I do :0) my advice ride both ..make a choice..OR have both..lol anywho my 2 cents..ps put a yoshi carbon pipe on mine
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I have a 2014 Versey 650 and a 2019 1000xt Adventure. I feel the same way as you. My 650 is a fun economical bike, but I love the extra torque of the DL1000!
I have 2018 1000XT black same as you. Previously owned 2013 650 Adventure. Hands down the 1000 is better in all ways except fuel economy and engine a bit smoother including as you stated suspension, brakes, power, aded safety w/5 axis IMU. I personally dont like flogging a bike to get it up and moving. The 1000 has awesome torque and you can click through the gears and get up to highway speeds and bey9nd without it breaking a sweat. Two up riding is definitely far superior.
I'm really disappointed what Suzuki did with the 1050 as it does not inspire me to upgrade from what I already have as they are asking too much and not providing relative incremental value. Base model 1050 is more expensive than 2019 1000 model and in the process they took away 5 axis IMU safety and still no cruise control. To get cruise control you need to buy XT and then also pay for bolt-on items like crash bars and centerstand that you can buy aftermarket at most likely 50 percent lower price. I would like Suzuki to introduce a Touring version of XT minus spike rims and complete with quick shifter and premium suspension. They also need to up e engine displacent and increase power by at least 20-30 percent to close gap on BMW and KTM. If they did those things they would dsfinteky attract more riders.
Good vid. Had previously written you off as just another paid-for reviewer, though this was a great showing of this bike. I have more respect now for your knowledge and ability to translate the specs and performance into how it works in the real world.
The Vstrom may be the unicorn.
I have a 2012 650 that just rolled over on 65,000 miles (100,000 km's).
an excellent, thorough, balanced, realistic, professional review with nothing missed and no time wasted (a rarity on youTube). thank you... I am most certain that a 650 V-Strom will be my next bike.
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Hi Jan! Your reviews are great, don't limit yourself in time please. You are one of the best reviewers, thanks for your work!
loved the reference to Yannis from kokkinafegaria smashing his dl650! Vstrom was my first bike and loved it! Took me on vacation, traveled with my wife, used it for everyday chores etc.
best work horse for everyday use. very reliable, easy and cheap to maintain too.
Good review, and you pointed out exactly what this bike is designed to do, and those are all of the reasons I bought it for. I traded in an HD Lowrider for this because I wanted a different style of riding, and the V-Storm will help me decide if I want to go any further in a serious off road direction. Spot on most adventure bikes do not do serious off roading.
Hey thanks for that comment, I have a 12 Fatboy,and I like it , but, I think I would love this Vstrom, I think this would be perfect for me, I’m not tall,5’8’,185,and I was just hesitant about selling my HD,but I think I’m going to do,can it use 87 octane? Thanks
I'm on my 4th WeeStrom, an '18 yellow one and have only been in 65 countries riding full-time over the past 12 years until Covid stuck me here in Ecuador. I like your review and look forward to others.
Very good & fair points, thank you for the video. Great overall value, 20L/5 gallon gas tank & huge range, great torquey motor & traction control at this price range, hard to beat!! I have a 2018 Vstrom 650XT - at just over 6ft, you are right, the legroom - I got the higher seat & the adventure peg adapter lowering pegs by 1 inch, this really helped. Buffeting, true, try the Givi adjustable windshield - and the Suzuki mirror extenders which move them further out - so much of the buffeting comes from the mirrors. The clearance - yes, the oil filter is right down there unprotected pointing forward- - definitely a concern. Motor- - lots of fun and torquey! Overall, this is a street bike, not an off-roader - yes, you can do gravel & fire roads, but let's not kid ourselves, the front suspension does suck offroad. Love the bike, but for offroad, I have a Suzuki DRZ400 & DR650 for that. Again, great points and great video, keep up the good work!
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I would like that bike in blue with the gold rims. I went to the bike show to see this bike. So it is defiantly one of my favorites. I have not ridden in over 35 years, so it is about time to get back in.
I suspect the buffeting is mostly from those big square mirrors, that look like the ones theyve always used. I changed them to a much "sleeker" pair on my old 2006 wee-strom and it made a big difference.
Hands down best review I’ve seen on this motorcycle. I’m a cruiser rider and own a Harley-Davidson Heritage Classic that I love but am looking for a lower cost and lighter weight 2nd bike that’s just different from the Heritage. I’ve owned Suzukis before and have been happy with their reliability and comfort. This looks like it fits the bill. Thanks again for the detailed review.
I had a 2012 V-Strom 650 but sold it in favor of the 2014 V-Strom 1000. For me as a larger rider (240lbs) I appreciate the added power and grunt, and it just seems more stable at highways speeds compared to the 650.
Thks for the mention of your weight; we're about the same weight.
Fantastic review, If I buy, that's all Suzuki V-Strom 650XT
Agreed that for off roading the VStrom is not as capable as the Tenere 700 but I took the VStrom 650XT to Moab and with some Anakee Wild tires, It is still a very capable bike on the trails, yes you have to be careful with the ground clearance but beside that, this bike rocks.
Do you recall what trails you took the V on..?
The V Strom 650 is the best bike I ever rode, after 45 years being riding motorcycle I never found a bike can out beat this bike, I have a 2009 but the 2017 and up is the one to have hope Suzuki not change this bike there nothing to change on it, from 2004 to now it's the best bike for the money hands down.
Thanks, mate. I love your reviews.
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6:26 love when you throw up comparison charts like this. I often pause to consider the different bikes. great review thanks
Thank you for this review. Had no idea this bike existed!
Watching your throttle hand brings to mind one of the biggest missteps with most road going bikes - a long throttle pull. First thing I do with every bike I get is to check throttle rotation and shorten the throw (usually). And, as I seem to pick bikes that are out of the mainstream, I have to engineer my own throttle tube solution (typically a piece of PVC pipe glued and pinned to the OEM throttle tube). I prefer about 1/8th turn and find that to be no problem on road. My current Triumph Tiger really woke up when the throttle throw was shortened. Cheapest performance mod available!
The V-Strom650 is definitely the better all-round bike, compared to the 1000. However, my Vstrom1000 (03), is still my favorite bike to date (owned DRZ400s, DR650s, WR426, KTM950 and Africa Twin). I raced my VStrom, so it is a capable bike, if you know what you are doing. It was a handful off-road, but I still managed to ride mine over sand dunes.
I want to hear all of your thoughts on the reviewed motorcycle no matter how long it takes. Time stamps are for those that don't have the time for a long review. Please don't edit out parts to make a 30 minute cut off. Your information is valuable. I want to hear it all. You are the best resource when choosing a new bike. I don't like making mistakes when spending my hard earned money and highly value your opinion. Say it all my friend, down to the smallest details.
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I think your review was excellent as always. I owned a 2006 V strom 650 for 14 years......flawless. I own several bikes now
but one of them is the 2019 V strom 1050 Adventure. The 1000 has a lot more lower end grunt, it has adjustable front suspension, it has excellent brakes, it has a hydraulic clutch. I think my 650 was better handling in the corners but I love my 1000 for reasons stated above. When you are traveling far from home reliability is king, thus my choice of the V strom over other adventure bikes.
I like your longer reviews ..very informative and to the point so you can cover pretty much everything and they do not seem 30 minutes long... they flow well... love my 1st gen Vstrom 650 .. I like the amount of ground clearance and suspension, it keeps me in check speed wise off road as to not hurt myself too bad when I do go down (often!...LOL)
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Great review. The seat height is 32.9" not 33.5" though. I think the 1050 is 33.5".
I agree it's an awesome all-rounder and that 645cc V-Twin engine is super reliable. Suzuki has had 20 years to perfect it. I bought a 2020 XT last August and just love it. I added heated grips and a center stand to mine and use it mostly for touring on paved roads. It's perfect for that! Very comfortable on long rides and when the road gets twisty it's better than I expected. I have suprised many riders on sport bikes and nakeds by easily keeping up with them on the V-Strom.
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