They say this is the toughest Knife steel ever Made! INFI STEEL DESTRUCTION!!
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We get a lot of requests.... many have been about the so called legendary INFI Steel. Nobody knows the exact composition but it is suppossed to be as tough as it can get. However.... this toughness comes as a high cost. DBK's mission to find out if that is worth it! Finally testing Busse's INFI steel!
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When smashing stuff wear safety glasses... Know a guy that lost an eye chopping wood... Unless you want to lose an eye... Then carry on 🤣
Where can I buy your knife?
@@-SuperDOG At the moment you can't buy it. The first wave included 300 pieces for the Kickstarter supporters. They make new production waves, later this year. Maybe you can get one then. Just follow them to get all information that coming up in the future. You need to be fast when they drop for shure.
Cool!
Saying Big Nik is not racists. Because you are describing the size of a Nik....A nik is the tiny bit of metal that has broken off. I dont know who told you it was rasist. But its not.
Great test of INFI's durability since not a lot of people would want to break a 400$ knife apparently it has some decent corrosion resistance as well, what I like about Busse Knives is their knife designs
The best thing about Busse is that, even if you manage to break it (short of intentionally breaking in half), it will be warrantied.
@@xdd7049 Even intentionally. They replace it.
@@xdd7049 Same with ESEE
Even if I was a knife guy and not a gun guy (too broke fir both, especially with .223 over 60 cents a round), I would not support a company that hides their steel composition.
Just like I try to only support open source software. If the company doesn't have the confidence to think they could handle competition, I wouldn't be confident in them.
Another guy said it was H8.
If I did spend real money it would be on msterial and equipment to make one personally, but with all the options out there I don't know why anyone would support hiding the material (like, what if it happened to be perfect for something else, like a submarine propeller or something. It may be a demonstrably good blade, but there are others)
I rock a shorty KA-BAR for prying or opening cans (same tang as the big one so it's much tougher, even for 1095) and a chinesium 440A M7 bayonet for knife specific tasks (no edge retention, but sharpens in a hurry. My first 440A blade, I was obligated: as is anyone with a 16" midlength AR, *obviously*, but was very broke after getting the rifle. I was also obligated to buy it, as the people's republic of Washington state was banning all future purchases at the time, and "assult weapons" are still banned from commerce.)
@@abstractapproach634 I agree. Inventors should not be rewarded for their inventions in any manner, let alone monetarily. Ideas are bestowed upon the privileged from the heavens, not through hard work, and only the greedy would try to assume ownership of them. ::RED SALUTE::
I know a few people that send their blades gor analysis to see what INFI was since Busse won't release the composition of their steel. And technically its not their steel, its a steel that already exists but they perform their custom version of heat treatment. The people claimed the results came back indicating their steel is either A8 or A8 modified. If thats true A8 is a very tough steel, but almost no one uses it in the States. One custom maker used it Tom Johanings years ago, and he was the only maker I could find. Few Italian companies use A8. I found some specs on it. It shows that at 59rc it has a charpy impact value of 160 joules or 118 foot pounds. For comparison Cpm 3v at 59rc has 100 joules. A2 for example at 60rc has charpy impact of 40 foot pounds. 5160 has a charpy impact of 85 foot pounds at 58rc. S7 has charpy impact of 165 joules at 56rc. So A8 is basically at the level of Shock resistance steels. Just some basic info if you guys are curious.
Actually, he listed the metals and composition in Blade Magazine many years ago. I’ve had my Battle Mistress a little over 35 years and the only thing needed t maintain the edge is a ceramic rod. That and a light coat of Militec oil is all that is required to keep her happy 😊
Infi is not A8 mod. It is different steel.
Definitely not A8 lol
I'm pretty sure it's 5160 and Busse does an in depth custom heat treat with it.
@@philsturgill3435 what is this " militecc oil???
It's like you read my mind I've been wanting to see the dbk test on this for awhile. Thanks to the sub for sending it out
I have one of these. They appreciate in value over time. Busse has legendary customer service. My knife was dropped off the top of my car on the highway when i forgot i put it on the roof of my car. It damaged the shealth after being run over by a semi truck. They took it back to the factory and fixed everything free of charge. Including the mail both ways.
Laughed so hard when he said it came in his face again. Love the sense of humor and the just having fun vibes!
Yeah I always wonder if they high
I've been using a Busse for 7 years now, almost daily for the past year, mostly for splitting big logs since I enjoy it more over an axe, and I haven't sharpened it once. Made it a secondary convex back then and obviously it doesn't shave but it has zero edge damage. It's honestly insane. Was about time you guys got your hands on one, they really do not disappoint😁
A fairly blunt big knife (just to an "okay" working edge level) is the best way to run a large blade in my opinion and historically how it was done (according to the local "historical lifestyle" museum)...I run both of my Terava Skrama's that way and like you I'm constantly amazed at their resilience and both are just a joy to use with little to no maintence.
@Juan Moore I own a couple traditional forged axes, had them for longer than the Busse. Still I enjoy splitting medium sized logs with the knife. Other sizes you need the axe obviously. And surely axe is more efficient, it's made for the job, but as something to do in my free time without any hurry I'd choose the knife everytime!
You knife guys are crazy, an axe and a maul together would be less and faster
But I've no problem with that, I get it (went BCM on my AR-15) *it's the hiding of the steel that bothers me, like closed source software: imo intellectual property is BS for people who aren't confident they can compete without a secret*
It may be a demonstrably good blade, but I don't see this community of knowledge and practice would put up with "closed source" metallurgy.
@@abstractapproach634 I get what you're saying, but I feel a bit different. Busse has no problem backing up their product and knows it competes well, and has for a very long time. I am very secretive about some of my plant genetics(I sell cannabis seeds). People who grow it know it can compete, but after spending years of research/testing on projects, I think it is up to the people who put their heart into it. MANY knife makers are very secretive about their heat treatment protocols! Nothing wrong with telling the world, or not. It's up to the people who put in the effort. Cooking and recipes are similar.
@@abstractapproach634 us knife guys like pain. I baton big logs with a mora😀
A comparison between this knife and the almost indestructable Terävä Skrama would be VERY interesting. 😁
Yes that would be most interesting
Right now I see the skrama beating this no issue
I stumbled upon this channel a few days ago and I’ve been watching nonstop. Love your videos guys! Much love from 🇺🇸
I am glad you reviewed this. I have 4 Busse knives and I really like them.
That one was a long time coming! So cool to see INFI put to the test!
Another great video. I love the testing and the humor.
Been waiting for this test for a long time. Haven't watched it yet but already know you guys are gonna beat it to death.
I have the Busse Street Boss in the thicker infi steel (the older version) with a 2 mm thick custom made kydex sheath. It's bullet proof. I had a guy at one of the courses bringing a larger Busse and that knife was indestructible too. So if you have the money and want something indestructible Busse infi steel for sure is a good option.
I've never heard of this steel or knife maker before but I like these monster knives they're just cool looking... Great video as always keepem coming guys!!!
They make Darrell's knife in the walking dead!
@@saggot420son Team Gemini
Busse is very well known amongst knife savvy people in the US.
You two need to go the Blade Show in Atlanta, Georgia. I've been a couple of times and it's overwhelming! Custom makers, all the manufacturers, machinery, supplies, classes, mingling with everyone at the hotel mammoth bar.. It's a trip you will remember. It's usually in June. Google it guys. ✌ 😃
Fair play big up for the owner for sending it in for you two too do what you do best test the shit out of stuff till it either dies or holds on till it get’s you two to give it the holy shit it made it. Much love to you two lunatics have a beautiful day lads always a pleasure thanking you kindly for still doing what only you two do 😘👍
hahah thank you so much
I think maybe you would prefer their SR101 steel. In my experience, it holds a sharp edge longer than my INFI blades, and is supposedly almost as tough. I would not know about that part though. I've never beat my knives that hard.
At least they have the balls to tell people what that one is, maybe, idk .... I am not a fan of this company.
They should want to share and grow the community and their reputation, not hide it away in fear someone will do it better or more efficiently than them
Intellectual Property is B.S.
If you went to a restaurant that was famous for a specific dish that they came up with, would you expect them to give give out the recipe to anyone that asked for it?
thank you guys for INFI steel review....I didn't find any other Busse knife review on the TH-cam like your is...maybe it is good to say that Infi is much more rust resistant than 1095, so it should combine thoughness, rust resistence, easy sharpening, etc....btw, my Busse will arrive tomorrow :-D
best regards from Czech Republic
There was a busse battle mistress knife destruction video on you tube long ago. I think he battoned it through a steel water pipe, hacked up cinder blocks etc the knife never failed.
I don't even collect knives, but I love your guys' channel. Makes me want to get into them tho! Keep up the good work. ❤️🇺🇸
This knife beat down is epic. This knife is really expensive but in my opinion if your planning on taking it into combat it's definitely the one I would want.
Thank you i have asked for this like 3 times you guys do listein. Awesome job
Would like to see ScrapYard Knives SR101 steel tested. Same company basically. I've had a SykCo 711 for about 10 years and it's been one of the fun to use and durable knives I've ever owned.
I have the same blade and for about 10 years too. Crazy
I got the 711 as well when it came out. And the 311, 411, & 511. SR101 is good stuff.
Yeah I was going to say that infi is not as good as their sr101 is I have the scrapyard "SYKCO DB-421" and it is a beast!!!
I have an 11-11 she is my camp friend flips steaks chops splits and scares the normys
If you have an SR101 consider yourself lucky. I read somewhere that the Gladius 10 was the last model to be made with SR101; in 2020. Busse lost the logistic support to maintain the specialized furnace that produced his SR101.
Cool video guys... Rockt it again🔥
loving the delicate rewording of ‘nick’ ….great video guys..
You guys are still totally out of control.....still, and I love it!
Hey guys. You should make a video where you compete against each other. But not in bushcraft skills but on knife making. Each of you grab your favorite knife characteristics and see whos knife is the best bushcraft knife. Keep up the great videos
I have a CGFBM and I have battoned the steel bolts off the door of an anderson air raid shelter I was helping clear from my parents garden (UK). It is bullet proof.
Another Great video review guys. That Busse is tough.
This is an NMSFNO. Nuclear Meltdown, Special Forces, Natural Outlaw. No longer in production. This knife originated from the SFNO, then Busse decided to give it the Nuclear Meltdown treatment.
Nuclear Meltdown: A treatment Busse does that rounds any exposed steel edge (spine, butt, choil). Looks nice, terrible for ferro rod and scraping wood. It also lengthens the blade from the standard model. There are several Busse knives the have gotten the NM treatment.
Special Forces: This refers to the handle design. Busse has several handle designs that they swap with different blades and make a new model. A current offering with this handle design, as of this video, is the Hell Razor II.
Natural Outlaw: This refers to this specific blade design.
So when you see a Busse acronym, part of it is the blade style, part is the handle style, and it may or may not have a cosmetic treatment, usually designated by the NM. Hope this helps.
And it's a Garth edition. A later iteration from the original. Probably had a overrun in the back that they let Garth ruin with that horrible color. Love the fact it's a convex grind. But most of the NM knives are not very good iterations of the original. Except for the NMFBM. It's a exceptional chopper. The NMFSH was the biggest travesty in my opinion. The other flagship in Busse's line. They got it right with the Heavy Heart. Then messed it up with the Nuclear Meltdown. Best knife Busse made in forever was the LE basic 8. And the best designs with a regular handle were the early Swamp Rats. And the best users are the Scrapyards. The DB series from Scrapyard is very good.
My most used are a original run Ratweiler and a 911. The 911 is probably the best big knife Scrapyard has put out. That saber into a convex grind is amazing because it doesn't bind. I blended the primary and secondary at 20 degrees into a almost full height convex grind (Except the convex goes into the high saber). Amazing blade.
I prefer the NMSFNO, it’s also slight longer than the SFNO. But I think the best all around Busse is the Hell Razor 2008 SE.
I think you guys do a great job! As a South African it always amazes me how much of your Dutch I can understand because of Afrikaans. Lekker!
Lekker man.....daai messe is befok mooi en hulle kry nie skaam om messe te toets tot breekpunt nie....yeah....i understand it too
@@yankee23a lol... leke bruh
Love from South 🇿🇦🙏
Awesome video as always. I would love to see a review of the tops Scandi Trekker! I got the tops BOB after watching the DBK review and I love it!
Oh my gosh! My Dutch uncles doing a show on Busse!!! WOW!
Great video as always
The other attribute of infi that you missed is its quite stainless for a non stainless steel. Even more so than d2. So it sharpens like 1095, its super tough.. its nearly stainless.
It isn't even even close to a stainless, the corrosion resistance comes from the nitrogen in the steel composition.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 i mean in practical use. Not chemically.
it does not sharpen like 1095... stop posting silly shit.
I think if you sharpen knives on that system ( i use it too ), without cooling at all it will ruin the HT at the edge. Since after about even just 15 seconds on the course belt without cooling it is too hot to touch even. I always dip my knives into a bucket after about 10 seconds when i use this system. About the knife i feel like its just so easy to make a knife that is this tough, just take a massive thick slab of steel, do the cheapest HT on it so it stays nice and soft, put a 40 degree edge on each side so 80 in total. Put some micarta on it and you are done. I feel like this is an incredible marketing trick with insane profit margins. Voor de rest leuke video en toffe gasten!
Each Busse knife has over 40 hours of heat treating processes done on it including a cryo treat. These do not have “cheap heat treats”. As far as the thickness Busse knives tend to run about .21-.22”’s in thickness. There are much thicker knives out there. Throw in their no questions asked lifetime warranty that also transfers between owners and the price in my opinion is worth it. If you can break a Busse you are probably going to the hospital after.
The knife exhibition sounds awesome you guys have such a far reach in the Knife Community it's very cool you guys are going down this road!!! That's a badass knife... tougher than 1095 sounds like my Esee lol Martin looking like Captain America pulling that wood in half 😂😂😂
Awesome testing!
glad you all finally got to test a Busse. I love your channel, but sorry I wouldn't send you one of mine...lol
That's the reason Busse's tend to hold their value with knife collectors, the runs are limited. With many of them once they are gone, that's it. Onto another model. I've not seen another run of the their BWM, since I bought mine about 10 yrs ago.
and like other commenters below, I used mine to split fire wood.
I would spend the bread on this knife no questions asked. The product clearly speaks for itself. Honestly thinking of selling 3/4's of my knives now in place of one of these
I have a SAR4 and SAR8. I got them a decade ago and never regretted it.
Would love to see you guys revisit ESEE now that they've redesigned all their handle scales!
I have a similar knife to this one, only thicker and a bit bigger. It is like a tank in your hand, an ultimate zombie apocalypse knife. Model is called Fat Fusion Battle Mistress, and I am having a really hard time putting it up for a sale because of how amazing it is. I could sell it and buy like 3-4 awesome big knives, but I just can't let it go. It is no longer made anyway.
I've been waiting for this for a long, long Time, ily guys ♥️
I just found your channel, really impressive videos and great laughs!
I would like to see you put the T.M. Hunt M18 survival knife to the test and also the Condor Woodbuster.
BTW, I live a couple miles from Bark River Knives, it's great to see you giving props to a small Yooperland company. Cheers!
USA..USA..Seriously, loved this one. Sketch comedy, effects and beating the crap out of a knife. I bought a mora based on this channel. Love it
I wouldn't send you a knife to test. Not because I don't trust you, not that I don't like you but because if it can be pushed to it's limits you do it. I know any knife you test how far I can go in personal use. You DBK boys are a blessing.
Another great one fellas 🤠
I love my busse infi knives, I think I have this same knife. Mine is a NMSFNO (Nuclear-Meltdown-Special-Forces-Natural-Outlaw) and is a beast.
Yes, that's a NMSFNO Garth edition 😉
@@xdd7049 nice, I have the one in OD with black (green) micarta. And a big ass leather sheath with a shoulder harness. Love this knife
Great Guys, half a year ago I bought myself this knife and after watching your videos (great job, thx) I was not sure anymore, if I took the right one. Especially when you talked about Elmax and cos. I was really thinking about asking you for a review of my knife. Thank you very much for this video!
I jumped on the Busse bandwagon from watching The Knife Destruction channel on TH-cam by a guy named Noss. He had hundreds of hours of videos. (I think he made enemies of many knife companies).
Somewhere along the line, I read something from someone who was trying to assertain which base tool steels were used for SR101 and SR77. One was thought to be a steel made for jet engine turbine fans, and the other, a steel made for jackhammer chisels.
This guy Noss also explained that there were different versions of INFI. Like the economy versions, ie: Busse Basic 9, etc... was a cheaper, less processed version of INFI. And a FBMNF would obviously be the top version of INFI.
My Basic 9 was stolen 😢; but I replaced it with a much better model.
Love the videos guys.
Another great one!
You guys NEED a Becker Bk7. Must review it.
Also, you gotta review the Mora Bushcraft, Kansbol, and Outdoor 2000.
Busse SFNO-one of my favorite hard use knives.
I love this channel !!
Basically a thick piece of 14C28N
The nitrogen makes for a rust proof almost elastic steel.
1095 like most non-nitrogen steels has a harder but more brittle edge.
Nice bush knife! Love the handle !!!😜
You guys should review the cold steel AK-47 field knife in CPM 3V
I know nothing about this knives but great job guys
Would love to see the fällkniven modern bowie through this harsh test. I have one myself but I’ll not put it through that lol 😂
Thank you for this video !!!! It’s settled
Incredible
THAT was a brutal test! Hammering on the spine is a known no no but it took it without a whimper. Did the hammer head suffer any damage?😲😆
Wow want that DBK KNIFE
Not come across this knoife brand before so thanks for that, Feel a bit feeble as I use my CRKT SPEW to open packets of ground beef to re-bag into smaller portions for the freezer. Thanks for making me feel like Mr Teeny Weener.
Busse still rules, nice to See The Proof in this Video.
Busse is expensive.But The Problem is: they Are Not easy to buy. If You See one : Grab it what colour ever...
I own a Cold Steel Warcraft tanto. Until now I thought it was the strongest blade I could ever get, but THIS blade would literally survive just about ANYTHING I can throw at it.
Screw the price, I’m getting an INFI blade.
I’m so glad y’all finally got your hands on a Busse. They have a vast array of knives from edc to combat ready to dagger type sword sizes that they make. Ones that I have owned and seen have always impressed me, and anyone else that ever saw them
I can not wait to start this video in order to see what y’all put one through. Keep up the good work.
And if you didn’t know, they have a grind that pretty well meshes all the grinds together into one. Oddly it works.
Was swinging down on a branch and my Infi glanced off a rock,the edge chipped.
The Noss destruction test on the Busse Battle Mistress in INFI was out of hand. I may have spelled his name wrong. I have had a few and the steel is very heavy.
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I was just wondering the other day if you guys had tested INFI. i have used a Busse for batoning for a while now and it feels bulletproof, so to speak
Thank you..
Love that hidden message. Poor Mickey
Very interesting
If I lived in that country I'd go to the knife exhibition. Only got like 12 sales...
Yes Busse in Infi had me being told to be better than 154 cpm and Niolox and N690
it came on my face again..great video
Infi steel (from my own research hears ago) is a nitrogen based steel like Spyderco uses in some blades. As such it is a work hardened metal such as copper or bronze.
Was.... it does not have Nitrogen anymore. Confirmed by Busse
awesome video
The number one thing about infi that makes it attractive is the toughness combined with the relatively high degree of stain resistance it has. At least for me. Other steels can beat it individually for toughness/edge holding/stain resistance in different categories respectively, but it's got an attractive blend of all 3 properties - especially for a bigger knife.
14C28N?
@@martinerhard8447 That or AEB-L. They're both stainless, and have really high toughness even at 62+ HRC.
@@derschwarzgeist yes those are also composition wise super similar steels
I once lusted after a busse battle mistress. Sure it's tough, so is a crowbar,and it can't cut either. Yeah it splits wood,so does a maul and it can't cut either.... thanks for the brutal test and I luv your band the wootang boys!
That Busse be bussin
Happy to watch this when holding my tgulb in hand.. Where I live I have seen zero busse knifes here.. But I admit what that money you have much options.. That wont help when shipping is like 55 and top of that 24% customs.. Plus top of that custom sheath something like 100 and shipping and 24% customs... But i want that so I get that no matter the price.. So it was over 700 euro mark easy.. What knive you get 750 euros..
It's just properly heat-treated A8mod.
And yeah, A8mod is a good steel.
DBK, what steel did you like better? This INFI steel or the CPK field Knife Delta 3V, from the Nov 25th 2021 video?
Confirmed. You are funny and wonderful. Everyone loves your jokes and ingenuity! serious
Have you ever tried something from Kiku Matsuda? That OU-31 steel seems to be something special.
Love to see you guys test a buck 119
You shoukd test the bravo clip point.
Anybody that spends that much for a knife doesn't need one, they need a head shrink.
59hrc, the steel is tough,malleable not soft. I thinned out my edge to 18dps and really performs well on hard medias.
People that haven't used INFI have these wrong impressions...
@@xdd7049 correct... unfortunately
@@concealmenttraining9371 I know.. from experience 😆
The steel is SR101 and the heat treatment process is patterned
Want to see toughest sword? Check out my old video. Search,”Hanwei Bastard Sword Destruction Test”.
🔴Most comments have people who never had a Busse knife. Busse are top knives. 🔝🔥
Perhaps (it seems that they sell 'em by the gram, though), but dulling on one cut of the rope does not make a 'happy meal'.
If memory serves me right (from over a decade ago)...
INFI is nitrogen infused, though I don't recall the base steel (maybe 52100?)
Sub companies to Busses Knives are:
Swamp Rat Knives: 52100 steel
Junkyard Dog or something like that: S7 steel.
You're close but not quite there
The 400 to 500 price tag also includes lifetime warranty. I have 2 tgulb busse knives love them you can't beat the steel.
Yeah, much like ESEE they pre charge you for extra knives. I didn’t understand it, but to each their own.
@@toejamr1 don't insult Busse by comparing it to ESEE buster. Apple and Oranges
@@GODWITHUS0712 its the same marketing ripp off
1.Step one: Make knife fully optimized for toughness (doesnt matter when it sucks in other areas)
2. charge 3-4x the price it should cost in exchange for a warrenty
3. warrenty will never be used because the knife if made for toughness only. Well you could loose it but then the warrenty doesnt help
Also INFI is such a lie...its a brand name they have used to sell multiple steels in the past. Nowadays the steel sold as Infi is A8mod
Hi, on what angle was that Ken Onion set during sharpening?
Thanks for this vid! The INFI steel has a reputation and mystique about it. In truth I've always been a little skeptical because I've never seen it put to hard use.
I think you guys nailed it: a really tough knife, but probably not worth the money for what you get.
In addition to it's toughness, it carries the Busse warranty with it from owner to owner, etc., which is nice also 🤙
Its worth every penny.
@@michaeldbhawker3556 : I've always experienced nothing but praise from Busse owners. That plus the resale value speaks very highly of the brand. I may in fact dive in some day; my interest is piqued, but just not my wallet at the moment. :-)
If you think this is a torture test go check out outdoors and type in this knife and you'll see a true torture test and it passed with flying colors
@@jonNH123 These 2 cannot get the words to describe the toughness of this steel. They are tongue tied, why ? because they have never seen a steel survive this abuse ever. Im not a buss collector rather a hard core user and Broken many blades. This steel will be seen in the future as a marvel of modern metallurgy. Yes this is a minor torture test for this steel. Some research will reveal insanity