Just picked up a Dual Trac Pro a few days ago for my hunting bow. Thanks for the awesome step-by-step videos, these really helped get set up. ESPECIALLY the articles on your site about the extra windage adjustment. Black Gold has an amazing product, but they could use better instructions or possibly a barcode that leads to a nice TH-cam setup tutorial
Sitting here watching site in videos for my black gold site and this notification pops up. This literally could not have been more of a perfectly timed video. 🤘🏻
Great video on the sight in process for a Black Gold Dual Trac. By far the best and easiest way that I have seen yet. You simplified it for me. Thank you!
Great video. I just purchased my first ever movable sight (dual trac mountain lite) and was a little overwhelmed by the sight in process. However, this video really simplifies things. Thanks so much.
I’ve always used fixed 5 or 7 pins but this is pretty neat. I exclusively hunt elk and mule deer in my state . It’s a spot and stalk always never sitting in a stand or blind my question is would you recommend this for my application? All the bulls I’ve taken have been 30 yards and mule deer 50-65 yards . When you dial the sight at longer distances is the 2nd pin gonna be useable at always the “ 15 yard” difference from the top pin? Example top pin is set to 60 then would the bottom be at 75 and be accurate?
If i did this setup, got my 60 yard groupings within 1 inch around the target. but when i go down to shoot 40 yards my groupings are all about 3-4 inches high. would that mean my fps sticker is incorrect? the 20 and 60 lined up great
The housing is different on both sights. Unfortunately. The pins are seated differently, I suppose you might be able to drill and tap new threads to accommodate the dual pins but I think that it could be very difficult.
You could however use a silver sharpie or glo in the dark sight paint to make a second down below on your single pin. Won’t be adjustable but would give you a second distance and you could gap shoot if needed.
On a 3 pin horizontal, like an ascent verdict, why wouldn't you dial it up all the way to sight in? Basically giving a stopping point back to 20 without looking.
Typically your bottom pin "40 yards" becomes the floater pin with the single indicator. If you run your sight flush to start you can dial the sight up or down, giving you an exact yardage to shoot. Say you have a 3d target at 27 yards and don't want to pin gap, you can dial up and use your bottom pin and indicator at 27 to shoot that exact distance. We have another video showing this process. th-cam.com/video/yTPNn1oLgaI/w-d-xo.html
You don't have to lower it all the way down. I like the largest pin gap I can get for my setup, typically because most of my shots are within 20-40 yards. For my bow I'm able to get 40 yards on the bottom pin so when I pull up on an elk I'm basically covered. If I was to set it up at 20-30 yards I'd have to know the drop at 40 if I didn't have time to dial. I've just found that most of my elk encounters seem to fall near 40 yards, so I like having a pin to shoot off of.
You would want to level the the sight "default position" on horizontal pinned sights. Mainly because the pin on the dual trac is lower in the housing. Multi pin horizontal sights, the indicator is typically set off of one of the lower pins. An advantage to having the sight level is the ability to dial up towards closer distances. With the dual trac we have a top indicator for the top pin and one for the bottom pin. So really there is no need to dial up to closer distances.
So that pin gap is going to stay shooting 15 yards difference no matter what distance? Say the first indicator is dialed down to 40 and so the second pin is on 55? Still going to hit the same as they were at 20 and 35?
The pin gap in the default position at 20 yards is15 yards leaving the second pin at 35. As you dial down to longer distances the pin gap shortens because the yardage on the tape starts to spread the further you get out. So for reference, at 70 yards with the top pointer the pin gap reduces to 11 or 12 yards leaving the bottom pin and indicator shooting at 81-82 yards. Hope that helps.
Just picked up a Dual Trac Pro a few days ago for my hunting bow. Thanks for the awesome step-by-step videos, these really helped get set up. ESPECIALLY the articles on your site about the extra windage adjustment. Black Gold has an amazing product, but they could use better instructions or possibly a barcode that leads to a nice TH-cam setup tutorial
Sitting here watching site in videos for my black gold site and this notification pops up. This literally could not have been more of a perfectly timed video. 🤘🏻
Awesome Glad that worked out. Let us know if you have any questions.
You still like the sight ?
This was perfect. Best Black Gold setup video hands down. Thx bro 🤙🏻🏹
I appreciate that a ton! Thank you
Great video on the sight in process for a Black Gold Dual Trac. By far the best and easiest way that I have seen yet. You simplified it for me. Thank you!
You bet! thanks for watching.
I hadnt picked up my bow for months until couple days ago and was really wanting to get my dual trac on point . Perfect timing and Awsome video!
Just bought one of these from S&S Archery, and can’t wait to start setting it up. Thank you for everything you do to help us out.
Thank you! Exactly what I needed to know!
Great video. I just purchased my first ever movable sight (dual trac mountain lite) and was a little overwhelmed by the sight in process. However, this video really simplifies things. Thanks so much.
Good video. Easy to follow instructions. Thank you.
This was the exact video I needed. And nice stasche
Ha thanks 👍
Just what I needed! Thank you
Yeah was looking at one of these thinking you just sold me. I love my Black Gold Rush sight. Been debating on switching to vertical pins.
Helpful. Thank you
Thanks for the video. Excellent info!
Thank you for your time.
Thanks for the video!!!!
I’ve always used fixed 5 or 7 pins but this is pretty neat. I exclusively hunt elk and mule deer in my state . It’s a spot and stalk always never sitting in a stand or blind my question is would you recommend this for my application? All the bulls I’ve taken have been 30 yards and mule deer 50-65 yards . When you dial the sight at longer distances is the 2nd pin gonna be useable at always the “ 15 yard” difference from the top pin? Example top pin is set to 60 then would the bottom be at 75 and be accurate?
Very helpful videos for setting up my Dual Trac. Question- what target is shown in the video? I'd love to get one like it for my yard.
Thanks for watching. The Target is "365 Archery Target Systems"
Awesome 😎👍
I've been shooting that site for a year now love the site just wish there site tapes went over 100 yards
Same here been a big fan since they came out.
Thanks great info👍✅🏹🇺🇸💪🏾🔨🎯😇
If i did this setup, got my 60 yard groupings within 1 inch around the target. but when i go down to shoot 40 yards my groupings are all about 3-4 inches high. would that mean my fps sticker is incorrect? the 20 and 60 lined up great
If i have a single pin black gold pro, is it possible to convert it to a 2 pin setup without buying a whole new sight ?
The housing is different on both sights. Unfortunately. The pins are seated differently, I suppose you might be able to drill and tap new threads to accommodate the dual pins but I think that it could be very difficult.
You could however use a silver sharpie or glo in the dark sight paint to make a second down below on your single pin. Won’t be adjustable but would give you a second distance and you could gap shoot if needed.
On a 3 pin horizontal, like an ascent verdict, why wouldn't you dial it up all the way to sight in? Basically giving a stopping point back to 20 without looking.
Typically your bottom pin "40 yards" becomes the floater pin with the single indicator. If you run your sight flush to start you can dial the sight up or down, giving you an exact yardage to shoot. Say you have a 3d target at 27 yards and don't want to pin gap, you can dial up and use your bottom pin and indicator at 27 to shoot that exact distance. We have another video showing this process. th-cam.com/video/yTPNn1oLgaI/w-d-xo.html
I have the hoyt rx7 can i use this sight .
You certainly can. Here is the link. sandsarchery.com/collections/black-gold-sights/products/backcountry-inline-dual-trac
Why do you lower the 2nd pin all the way down? I’m just curious? If all the way down is the place it has to be then why is there adjustment to it?
You don't have to lower it all the way down. I like the largest pin gap I can get for my setup, typically because most of my shots are within 20-40 yards. For my bow I'm able to get 40 yards on the bottom pin so when I pull up on an elk I'm basically covered. If I was to set it up at 20-30 yards I'd have to know the drop at 40 if I didn't have time to dial. I've just found that most of my elk encounters seem to fall near 40 yards, so I like having a pin to shoot off of.
What target is that?
What target are you shooting at?
Its called 365 Archery.
Why on a different TH-cam channel they say that the default is when you level it.
You would want to level the the sight "default position" on horizontal pinned sights. Mainly because the pin on the dual trac is lower in the housing. Multi pin horizontal sights, the indicator is typically set off of one of the lower pins. An advantage to having the sight level is the ability to dial up towards closer distances. With the dual trac we have a top indicator for the top pin and one for the bottom pin. So really there is no need to dial up to closer distances.
@SandSArchery I have the 3pin pro hunter. They said the default is when we lower the sight when the flat meet the flat is that correct.
@@chagvang811 yes it is here is a video link that might help you out. th-cam.com/video/yTPNn1oLgaI/w-d-xo.html
what does ur arrow weigh
right around 460 grains
So that pin gap is going to stay shooting 15 yards difference no matter what distance? Say the first indicator is dialed down to 40 and so the second pin is on 55? Still going to hit the same as they were at 20 and 35?
The pin gap in the default position at 20 yards is15 yards leaving the second pin at 35. As you dial down to longer distances the pin gap shortens because the yardage on the tape starts to spread the further you get out. So for reference, at 70 yards with the top pointer the pin gap reduces to 11 or 12 yards leaving the bottom pin and indicator shooting at 81-82 yards. Hope that helps.
@@SandSArchery makes sense, just wasn't sure if the second pin was only useful at the default position. Glad to hear it can be utilized at any yardage
What size Allen screw holds the set screw and the second pin?