Going Deeper with Jess Vestal | The Viall Files w/ Nick Viall
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- Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper, with Perfect Match’s Jess Vestal.
Today we have a bonus episode, and boy is it filled with JUICY tea. How was Jess’ time on Perfect Match? How has her experience been in the public eye? And, where is she now in dating?
“If that’s what clout means, I don’t want any of it”
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
02:15 - Getting To Know Jess
20:48 - Love Is Blind
25:40 - Perfect Match
31:27 - Past Relationships
34:41 - Intentions
43:20 - Potential
47:44 - Harry
55:06 - The Footage
59:43 - Getting Back Together
01:10:58 - Beach Photos
01:12:41 - Second Breakup
01:33:24 - Changes
01:40:01 - Buzzwords
01:48:24 - Whats Next
01:57:54 - Outro
I like how he mentioned how Harry is the scariest type of person because as I watched the show I was like this man is terrifying, he manipulates like it’s second nature to him
He manipulates so good atp he doesn't even realize he's doing it
I know it's actually terrifying
Right!? And she acts scared to say anything negative about him
Romans 10:9-11 says, "If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved".@@Corynenicole
@@desiree_fraserRomans 10:9-11 says, "If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved".😊
Jess for BACHELORETTE!! We need the crossover and see a success story for her.
That show is no different especially with all the fame chasers that sign up to meet the woman or man that is the lead. Or even the lead🤷🏻♀️
I SECOND THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY
I was about to nominate her for bachelorette but apparently I need to know her on a much personal level 😒😒😂
Oh dear gd no I hope she does not do that. She deserves better than a bachelor tv show.
I would love this
Knowing her past, highlights what a horrible person Harry is because he saw her as an easy weak target and took advantage of her, he’s not a hurt person hurting people, he’s just an asshole
Harry is scum he never deserved her or anyone at that
Who is this
oo love this oi
I legit think he’s a sociopath 🤷🏻♀️
Basically every(!) a.-hole worldwide, male, female or intersex, is a 'hurt person hurting people.' 'Hurt people hurt people, & happy people help people.'
I was impressed that Jessica didn't try to cheat with Jimmy, even though they almost became a couple, & Jimmy said Jessica was attractive, obviously.
I have way more respect for Jessica now, knowing she was tragically abused in foster care until getting adopted at 16. I hope she finds a decent boyfriend, and thanks for publicly admitting you have a stomach disorder (same with Natalie saying her sister has a stomach disorder). Most Americans/people keep that secret, out of incorrect 'embarrassment.' Vaccine injuries can cause stomach disorders.
Jess- “he was like, ya I’m gonna leave the chat” was so brutal 😂 her dark humor is relatable
I wish they laughed 😂😂
I had a rough traumatic childhood and I can relate to the dark humor. It’s like a coping mechanism.
I mean it wasn't even that dark but I agree it would have been better if they laughed. I'm guessing they weren't used to it so they just stood quiet.
@@Momdojo I think they felt bad lol
I’m 12 min in and crying. Jess is simply built different. The amount of love realness, compassion, vulnerability she brings to reality tv is totally changing the landscape. I resonate so much with her story.
@@sabrinathomas4072 Jessica Is fake and a cloud chase
52:32 NICK i just want to say i'm SO GLAD you, as a man, are calling out Harry's horrible manipulation. You are literally saying my exact thoughts and making ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS 😭♥️ we don't deserve you. This podcast is gold!!! Being that said, I hope Jess open her eyes one day. Just bc you don't wanna hear or aknowledge that someone you love manipulated and used the most sensitive topics and triggers and the most important person in your life to get to you, doesn't mean it's not true. You might "know deep things" about harry, but that doesn't erase what he does to women time and time again.
Jess is so likable. Holy cow. Give this girl a platform besides doing crappy social media ads. She deserves a voice on a public platform.
“I don’t have time to coach someone on how to be a good partner to me” 😮💨 single mom to single mom, I feel her deeply
Woman to woman I feel this too
Yet she gave him all the time in the world to play her like a clown lmao
Nick - Get Jess a podcast on your network stat! It would hit the top of the charts in no time and aligns perfectly with your brand
@yourbravobestie I was thinking this too. She is well spoken and very beautiful. She has a story to tell.
I will literally listen to her every day talking about life. She is so refreshing ❤
I would listen to this woman speak everyday!!!!!! Get her a mic!!!
She can’t start her own and it will do way more
YES
It’s crazy that her season of Love is Blind wasn’t released when Perfect Match was filmed. No one knew the iconic queen they had in front of them, not even Harry
Omg makes so much sense now!
He would have definitely treated her differently if he saw how she stood on business on the show and if she had the platform she does now.
Wow that's so interesting. I actually just watched Perfect Match and it was after watching Love is Blind. I wonder how I would have felt about her if I had watched it the other way.
I really loved her on LIB. She is a strong, emotionally mature woman.
That was shocking tbh
frrrr
Lmao Natalie saying at the end ”do you wanna hangout” 😂😂😂😂same same
How this man manipulated Jess during a vulnerable part of her life was so calculated and cruel, especially the part about him unwilling to take down his disrespectful content about her shows a lot about his character. Jess you have the greatest gift you’ll ever receive in life with your beautiful daughter. Keep your head up high and continue to be the courageous woman you are.
What post are they talking about that was disrespectful? I don’t follow him so I don’t know what they were referring to. 🙂
He did it to Georgia as well :/ really don’t know if he’s learnt or will learn
I think this is why it’s smart of Jess not to say too much about him, Harry is brutal and malicious, if she makes him angry he’ll try to ruin her life and terrorize her like he did to Georgia.
It’s best to walk away from that guy quietly and stay off his radar
Everything he does is for clout, he doesn’t care about people
I feel like Natalie lowkey fell in love with Jess during this episode and her asking her to hang out at the end was so cute haha
The way I clicked so fast is unhinged. Jess, I misunderstood you in the pods. You are an amazing, and truly a deserving person. I loved this interview.
Love hearing Jess speak. She should really consider a podcast, writing a book or creating more chatty content
Agreed!
Interesting how different peoples opinions are. I find her so boring 🤷♀️
@@juliahelm9893 then dont watch her content
@@mqk1697 yea, I’m obviously not going to 🤔🤦♀️!
@@juliahelm9893because ur not mature as she is😂 shes a really mature person emotionally
Wow, Jess is a queen! It's clear she elevates every conversation she has. In contrast, I couldn't even finish Harry's podcast because the discussions felt so immature and shallow. Jess, on the other hand, delivers meaningful, in-depth conversations and truly knows how to connect with people. It's fascinating to witness! Jess deserves nothing but the best!
I love her. So many people say she’s stuck up and wants a man with money so she’s a gold digger. No, it’s the desire to want what she never had. For her and her daughter. She’s such a strong woman, and obvi beautiful. I have always felt that from her, again she’s such a sweet spirit you can just tell.
Exactly. It is a desire for Security. Literally feeling secure and safe in life. For her, it means a different thing and not like other people who just want to buy fancy things.
She’s an amazing woman. Often times, the most beautiful people are the ones who have endured many trials and have come out the other side with resilience, strength, and compassion. All of these things are evident in Jess. May God bless her and her life. May she receive all of the best things in life.
I can’t love her more than I already do. Thank you Jessica for making me not feel so alone as a former foster care child 🥹🙏🏽🤍
She is so spiritually protected. God bless people who suffer from a young age and make it out. ❤❤
Jess is absolutely built different and I could tell on love in blind. I think God blessed her and she is getting this opportunity so she can share and help others. She needs her own podcast or show! ❤
Jess is proof that men don't really want women who know their worth and that's so sad....
Lolll Jess doesn't know her worth thats why she went for the biggest player of all time knowing his past. Are you kidding me????
@@suras8984 Wanting to give someone who is insisting that they want to do better in life and wants to settle down isn't conducive to "not knowing your worth" but hey, if putting her down makes you feel big sunshine, you do you...
@alitaylor1235 stating that someone doesn't know their worth is not putting them down. She even said she has a bad track record for choosing men which means she doesnt know her worth. And you do not take someone's words as truth if you know their actions to be the opposite. Anyone who is serious about getting married and simultaneously knows their worth would never give Harry a chance especially since all his transgressions are fairly recent. You can't use this weak example as a reason to say that men don't want women who know their worth as if Harry is representative of men or even a decent human.
Some men.
Her story is why you should never judge people, you never know where they come from
Nick reading Harry for filth is my favorite thing I’ve heard this week.
I think Nick has really good emotional intelligence as well as Jess being very emotionally intelligent. Would love to see more of their work together.
I love her personality so much. I hope to see her on TV again, she’ll be so good on a lifestyle reality show
She is fake and a clout chaser
@@tommysmith2719 she’s probably the least clout chaser of that entire cast. I stand on what I said I love her personality from what I get to see on her socials and the shows
@@jey7230 she is too fake and dumb to me
@@jey7230 jessics is a clout chaser she didn’t tell people have a kid on the first date
Ewwww Tommy you’re disgusting. Lol
LOVE that she talked about wanting to do meaningful things with foster kids and people with autoimmune diseases and is genuine about using her platform for that. More people with platforms could learn from her.
My gosh her story had be bawling. I just can’t imagine growing up in foster care. She’s truly an amazing resilient woman. I have a feeling she will be okay. She’s so smart and a great mother.
So appreciative of Jess for sharing her story ❤ It is somehow healing to hear from someone else that suffered from their parent's addiction. I hope the best for her. True gem 💎
I'm 47yrs old. $73,000 biweekly and I'm retired, this video have inspired me greatly in many ways that I remember my past of how I struggled with many things in life to be where I am today!!!!❤️
I'm inspired.
Please spill some sugar about the biweekly returns, I would be really glad
All thanks to Christina Ann Tucker
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my daughter's surgery (Joey). Glory to God.shalom.
Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Christina Ann Tucker.
I do know Christina A.Tucker, I also have even become successful....
Jess, he played both you and his partner on DWTS. That girl has a heart of gold. I’m sure he was feeding her fake stories just to keep himself relevant and the fans voting for them. You both deserve better.
Thisssssss
Jess is such an amazing example of strength and resilience. I continued to be so impressed with her compassion and grace. I wish her so many good things!
“It will stay with him longer than it will stay with me”- Jess 👏🏽👏🏽absolute bar
Girl I couldn’t love you more!!!! Hearing you talk about all of this really REALLY resonated with me. Thank you for being so open and sharing your story Jess ❤
My mom was the Jessica in our family. She was in the system from 6 months to 18 years old and grew up in 30+ homes. She broke the cycle and I thank god everyday that she didn't succumb to addiction and raised us with so much love. Thank you to all the Jessica's out there who chose happiness and love despite all their adversities
I have never watched The Bachelorette but I would never miss an episode if Jess was on it!!!
She exudes wisdom and grace like no other reality tv star has ever done before. What a beautiful woman inside and out…God’s light really shines through. Love you Jess 💘
I don’t know if Jess would read this but I honestly found her so mature and insightful during perfect match. She just had this maturity in fights and altercations and I felt like she handled herself with such class.
Jess is so well spoken and a class act! Love that she has a platform to make a difference.
The fact that she is open and vulnerable to love after this is amazing. She’s really done the work as she says. Anyone hating on her is on,y speaking from an unhealed / hurting perspective.
Jess sharing so honestly and vulnerable is soo healsome ! And she’s so right: we can be a strong, eloquent person and reflected and still fall for trauma bonds!
10 min in and already crying 😭 Jess I relate so hard to some of the things you experienced. My mom was in active addiction most of my childhood/teen years as well and my half sister was in foster care for a long time until my mom finally got clean for good. You are so strong and I admire your vulnerability to share those moments of your life!
Natalie has such a safe and calming presence. The duo fr
What a powerful interview. So mature of Jess. Thank you for sharing your side and being vulnerable. I'm rooting for you. We all are. ❤
I love that nick tried to explain harry and his manipulative ways to Jessica while also being mindful of her liking to be with people that have experience. Harry is just not that guy. He will say anything and do anything with no remorse. He’s a scary type of guy.
Poor Jess , she’s still giving this dude grace and believed the lies and manipulation! Hearing her past really helps you understand why she picks these unstable narcissists
Poor ???? SHE IS A WHOLE OLDER WOMAN WITH A CHILD CLOSE TO BE A TEEN … 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Thank you for sharing your story Jess 💗 💗💗this is what sets this podcast apart!! Vulnerable and genuine conversations. Thank you Nick and team for preparing and asking good questions!!
I relate to everything she said about her mother. And now my Mom passed away from her addictions. Hope was def a worst enemy. And waiting to be chosen by a parent with addiction is heartbreaking. Sending so much love and hoping Jess has a better outcome ❤❤❤❤
ITS ACTUALLY SO SAD AND SCARY HOW SHE JUST DO NOT WANT TO SEE THINGS FOR WHAT THEY ARE AND THAT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS … like come on you now have a whole child in your care you need you must be careful on who and when to bring ppl in to your life …
I am obsessed with this beauty! Talk about being a total beauty both inside and out. I love how good she is with words. ❤❤❤ I would love for Jess to start her own podcast.
Sadly, Jess doesn’t get it. She was absolutely played by Harry. Jess saying that she doesn’t want to believe that Harry manipulated her doesn’t change the fact that he did. Now that Jess has had time to watch back her season of Perfect Match and process what really happened hopefully she can change her thinking about Harry, Because, true healing and real social-emotional growth will not happen for Jess until she can accept and admit that she was wrong about everything that she thought was a great relationship. The fact is that Harry has gotten much better at being a Cad. Hopefully all women watching him will wisen up about how some men can lull them into a false sense of romance bonding.
yeah she’s being a bit toxic positive about the situation, like girl it’s okay to get mad, call it for what it is and move on with grace.
I think she‘s emotionally not ready to process it fully yet
Awesome interview
You provided such a safe environment to open up
It’s so beautiful to see a man be able to get into deep, hard, emotional conversations with people & allow them a safe space to open up & be listened to is really special.
Therapy and Exploring Attachment wounds. That is where a lot of the cycles can be understood. I am a trauma therapist and work deeply in Attachment theory. It is huge. It's our foundation and where we learn our CORE beliefs, values, fears, etc. It's the lenses we view our experiences through.
Interesting… which methods are you using to treat trauma and attachment wounds?
@@spiritofcoco I am EMDR trained, so I do a lot with EMDR work. However, I do Attachment Style quizzes and psychoeducation about Attachment and the styles. I also do Attachment History gathering regarding primary caregivers in childhood, etc. There are a lot of different resources, etc. I'll use but those are some of the main applications.
I absolutely love this episode... I'm not even 10min in and I'm already so moved and inspired...Jess is an absolute gem who deserves the world🥺
I do agree with Nick that we don’t really know her. But it’s definitely hard to watch the show and not notice that she’s not like everyone else. And I don’t even just mean perfect match I mean reality shows in general. I feel like the only thing real about Perfect Match was Jess and the way she stayed honest and true to herself and what she deserves.
Love love Jess! Just added this to my watchlist! Can’t wait to watch this once I’m off work💃💃
Watched this entire interview from start to finish… Jess is just amazing. Could never have enough good words about the character displayed to us as an audience
I really like Jess after this! She is super relatable. I’m so happy to see her grow from her hard childhood and become a great mom❤ also, yay for Crohns awareness!
Wow, Jessica has a truly inspiring story and an incredibly beautiful soul. I knew she was different than other people on those shows and she carries herself so well. She deserves a platform.
Jess is a real one and a National treasure and we need to protect her at all cost!!!!
9 minutes in and I’m crying ❤️ sending you love Jess.
Me crying ten minutes into this interview😭 Jess’s past is so so so heartbreaking and I’m proud of her for sharing her story with the world
Why am I crying before Jess even started crying 😭
I love this conversation and as a trauma mentor we misunderstand trauma often it doesn't have to be some big T trauma it's any experience that we internalize that feels unsafe to our psyche and physiology. Especially when we don't have that attunement from a caregiver. These shows like love is blind is triggering someone's trauma they should have a trauma mentor for supporting the wounds that are being opened. Some people are not as self aware as you Jess. And I can relate to wanting my mom to choose me I was emancipated at 13. You are beautiful inside and outside. Trauma healing is ongoing. 🩷
This episode was not as expected when I clicked and surprisingly so wonderful. 😢 ❤
Jess is such an incredible woman and Im so glad she got the opportunity to speak about all of it here. Shes just the best 💞
I really loved this episode!!! 😍
Yes, we often have a tendency to romanticize things, even if they may be toxic or unhealthy. Our brains naturally seek to make sense of things, and once we create a context or narrative around something, it can provide a sense of relief and comfort. This is why getting back together with someone can give our brain that context, even if it may not be the best decision for our well-being. As a trauma mentor, I understand the desire for a happy ending, regardless of whether the person involved may be considered a "bad guy" or not. We all crave that sense of closure and happiness in our lives.
She is amazing! So genuine and so compassionate to people who have done her wrong. We need more people like her in the world.
Why did we waste an entire chunk of the episode on Harry? Jess is more than that! She is such an amazing woman we could’ve deep dived into her life, her daughter, her goals and her future plans.
This!!
So happy Jess found a family in the end that was a good family!!
Not all of us from the system have that because it’s seriously so corrupt.
I ended up with a family who should have never been able to adopt me and my brother. They shouldn’t have been allowed to adopt a dog. They had a lot of money and it was all they cared about. He was a funeral director who moved me to a new state bought a funeral home, made a commercial about our “adoption story” and when I started school everyone knew me as that adopted kid.
He manipulated me with money because I never had it growing up until finally I left them at 17 and never turned back.
I’m now just out here with no parents at all.
The system fails us kids that need a family and place us with people who aren’t really looking out for us because unfortunately they don’t have the space for all the kids so they just try to place kids wherever they can.
Again so so happy for Jess, I feel more connected to her now. I always kinda saw myself in her, and now I see it makes sense.
So sorry you went through that. Every child deserves to be loved. I hate that so many kids go through this with the system.
I’m an orphan. I completely relate to Jess. I am Team Jess, I just hate the way she attacked Melinda. I’m sure she has grown since then and realizes her mistakes. I hope Jess gets to be The Bachelorette one day!!
You call what she did an attack? ..
I would do the same. That wasnt the time and place to tell her. I understand everyone was sharing what happened but as a bigger person u just KNOW stuff like that should be shared privately. Especially if it was THAT bad.
@@Karla-pp9li
yeah and I loved Melinda, but after listening to other interviews from castmates melinda was doing too much in general...
I disagree that her conversation with Melinda was an "attack". She was standing firm while being respectful. I think she managed that conversation beautifully and clearly.
For someone who dislikes Harry so much, Melinda was too loud and lil too desparate to get him to kiss her.....
Great interview Natalie and Nick!!! Jess is a gem and truly a lovely person!!!
It was honestly super cool that despite nick’s poking and prodding, Jess refused to use this platform to trash talk. Really respect that, and while I can’t ever know her personally (to nick’s point), I do find it personally helpful to see examples of such maturity!
I love Jess! Been following her since LIB and I really admire the way she carries herself and relates with people.
Jess is the level of poised that I would love to be. Very well spoken/ articulate and intelligent. I love it!
Such a great episode! I can listen to Jess talk all day! ❤
Nick you gotta be pretty privileged to act like being a foster child is unique. There are so many of us.. you gotta open up your mind to different kinds of people dude
She needs to be in film i see so much here n this woman is just amazing n i feel she belongs in things bigger than reality tv especially the trauma that comes off these shows today. She is deserving of more. Gut feeling tells me its tv n movies.
Out of any reality contestants out there she truly comes off very genuine. A very stand up woman and I enjoy watching her on my screen,
she made it real clear on perfect matches shes materialistic and only dates rich men that can provide more for her. VERY GENUINE LOL
She’s honest about it. How is that not genuine? Are you only genuine if you date poor men? Read the definition of genuine
@@CDJ831 because she contradicts those statements in the same show and on Love is blind. that's why it's not genuine
and on interview she just garners sympathy. she says whatever is convenient at the moment. go look at her other interviews
Nah I’m not as obsessed as you clearly seem to be of her to look up her other interviews.
Amazing interview Nick and Nat!
And Jess is a wonderful unicorn but she must realise that she deserves so much more and so much better, Jess for bachelorette she would be perfect ❤
There is difference when man wants to be good and man that is good. Thank you for sharing Jess. ✨💜
1:14:21 girl so you're saying you believe all this "I wanna make lunch for autumn with you" stuff, saying you think he meant it, but you know he's not showing up when he has the opportunity to actually be there and walk the talk... ok😒
Also, if you don't know why he had you there: you're super pretty, your love is blind debut was coming, he knew you were gonna be the new 'it girl' like francesca, like... wym? Sex? Be the guy who always gets the girl he wants? Be forreal, you said it yourself: He is extremely inteligent. I don't like him, but I agree. He is outsmarting you & I wish you clarity soon! ♥️
💯 just like with Georgia she was the girl everyone wanted on THTH and she won perfect match Jess is pretty but not like Francesca and Georgia that everyone runs after the dream girls with no baggage
So excited for this
What a GREAT interview! I know you won’t read this Jess 😉 BUT you are soooo loved!!! Love Nick and Nat as always too!
Her dark humor with “I guess he decided “I’m gonna leave the chat’”. Jessica never change!
Came within 30 seconds of me getting the notification 🔔
A significant number of people, particularly women, have Crohn's disease and autoimmune diseases that are associated with early childhood trauma. I'm not sure if you are aware of this or if you have studied it, but there is substantial research that provides evidence linking autoimmune diseases to early childhood trauma. Specifically, these diseases often manifest in the stomach and gut region because our gut is often referred to as our second brain. It is crucial for our digestion and overall well-being to be in a state of rest and restoration when processing food. However, for many of us who experience constant stress or hypervigilance, this can contribute to the development of autoimmune diseases. I appreciate you shedding light on this topic!
Yes, ACE! Adverse Childhood Experience. Many of us have above a 4.
I learned this recently and it’s so interesting. Ive recently been diagnosed with celiac and have always had bad gut related issues growing up and could never figure out why..
I adore Jess. She's so sweet, humble and has sucha story. I would love to hear more from her! Keep pushin Jess and keep your head up! Xx
I think a lot of people that label horrible ex’s as narcissists are actually getting it wrong when a lot of them are actually sociopaths. Saying someone is chasing clout and just self absorbed is really diminishing just how damaging these individuals are to the average compassionate person whose emotions are just play things to them.
OMG, so well spoken, the best of them all
Jess is a A class human. The way she speaks about her relationship with Harry is outstanding.
As someone who got diagnosed with Crohn's. I'd love to hear her story on her journey with it too.🥰
I was also thinking the same thing! Crohn’s is so hard to navigate we need more people in this space talking about it!
What a class act - wish her all the best. I’m confident she will find her person and have her happy ending ❤
36 minutes in…. Jess you’re literally describing every narcissist 🚩🚩🚩
💯 💯 💯
I loved this!!!😍
Not only is Jess sooooo fucking beautiful but INSIDE, she’s beautiful!! Love her so much
She’s an amazing human being. Her daughter is lucky to have her as a mama.
She is so easy to listen to and it is such a pleasure for me because to hear someone speak with self reflection, genuine intentions, compassion for others, who takes ownership and accountability as that foundational approach to discuss lifes challenges- is the most relatable person that I have found. I have had the unpleasure encounter of dating someone that I wanted to believe their intentions and character but actions showed me otherwise, and the strength it takes to leave when you feel trauma bonded, is very underrated. It was a hard reality to break in my thoughts and in my heart that there really are maliciously intended individuals hiding behind kind eyes and likeable personalities. It took me 6 years to come to reality, and so I know her strength and the value she rightfully places on herself.