Most rv salesmen seem like unknowlegdeable used car sales people. They don't seem to understand it is the living space which is important. PJ is the best!
She is by far the best RV reviewer I have seen. Lots of important details w/o being repetitive. Example: telling us the interior height. I am 6' 3" so it is always good to know. The tiny space is really well laid out.
I agree she is fantastic!! I want to go buy one from her because this is the best review I have ever seen and like the previous poster I have also watched hours and this is be far the best presentation.
The key word is it will “fit” on a 1/2 ton, fitting and being a legal payload are two different things. The dry weight is 1700lbs, optioned out its around 2100lbs. Then add maybe 300lbs of clothes, pots & pans, food and camping gear and you’re at 2400lbs, plus a driver, passenger and the dog will add around another 400 lbs so now you’re at 2800lbs of total payload but you probably carry around another 100lbs of just in case stuff. So lets just call it 2900lbs of payload. The vast majority of 1/2 ton pickups have 1500 lbs of payload +/- 200lbs. Optioned out crew cabs can be as low as 1000lbs. I think Ford has a special heavy duty 1/2 ton at with around 2200 lbs of payload. Don’t let the dealer convince you that you can make it work with upgraded suspension parts, the payload sticker on your truck is the legal limit regardless of aftermarket parts. You may also affect your warranty on that new truck. I know that there are lots of folks running a few hundred over but if your payload limit is 1500 lbs and you’re carrying almost twice that you’re doing more than just fudging a little.
Thank you for responding to the weight on this camper, gives a lot to think about. Great advice, it doesn’t take much to go over vehicle weight limits from the factory, thanks.
You need a bare bones regular cab if you wanna put this on a half ton, and that is already pushing the limits. I would go 3/4 or 1 ton with this much weight.
I bought a travel lite, just under 1300 lbs for my half ton Silverado, took out microwave, want to switch out Dometic air conditioner for a fantastic fan which will lower a bit of wieght, manual jacks, use liight compact camping dishes and pots, carry a small light screen tent, everything is light and compact (more hiking/camping type stuff), except food. Have air bags and it carries well. Rarely fill the water tank, but carry a gallon of water, depends on where I'm camping and travel distance. Sometimes tow a small flat bottom aluminum boat.
That is exactly how I feel about it. I'm going from 3 years in a low roof cargo van to possibly a truck camper such as this one. Everything I built out in the van comes ready to go in this Lance, and probably in a far more efficient setup for energy and water consumption and application. I'm looking at this Lance and at the NuCamp Cirrus 620
Most 1/2 ton crew cab trucks have around 1500 lbs. total payload. Add 200 pound driver and 150 pound passenger and you are already down to 1150 loaded camper weight. Always read the GVW on door tag of truck. Then subtract passengers and cargo. What is left is camper weight.
This is a nice Lance truck camper. . I like that it has storage/ closet by the bed. It never seen a refrigerator by a bed like that before. Very nice though. Thank you so much PJ for showing this Lance. Great job! 👍
I added a sway bar and air bags to my F150 super crew. The load wasn't an issue, but top heavy center of gravity. Not sure how this truck camper performs as it relates to top heavy CG.
@hard life FTW EBK maybe 40 years ago when half ton meant actual half ton payload. Right now, a Chevy Colorado has a minimum payload of 1445lbs, up to 1700lbs (oddly enough that’s roughly the same as the 2021 Ram 1500) . So, a 1/4 truck actually has a ton and a half payload. A 2020 Sierra half ton has a bed load ranging between 1570lbs-2280lbs depending on cab configuration and trim package. Easily able to handle the camper and payload. If you add helper springs or air bags you could increase that even further. Heck, a one ton Sierra has a bed rating of over 2 tons. So, yeah, the 1/4 ton, 1/2 ton, and 3/4 ton designator for trucks really doesn’t mean anything anymore at least as far as payload is concerned.
Your payload capacity will be on a yellow sticker which will say max the number of passengers and give a number of total lbs not to be exceeded. Most 1/2 ton trucks are 1300-1700 lbs. I wouldn’t put this camper on any 1/2 ton truck.
I will say check your cargo capacities. Most 1/2 trucks have cargo capacities of 1,700 to 1,900 lbs. I had a Titan XD and the cargo was 1,900. So even if this camper comes in at 1,700 and then I get into my truck it is over capacity. Don’t forget you have to take passengers and any other cargo into account. My opinion is this is not for a 1/2 ton truck. Check your owners manual of your truck. Be safe!
You're 100 percent right. Legally it's too heavy for 1/2 ton trucks thats assuming you're gonna add the additional payload like people, tools, bags you know the regular stuff lol. You'll be well over the legal GVWR. Wouldn't want to be in an accident and deal with DOT afterwards.They don't really go over that stuff in these videos because thats the scary part nobody wants to talk about or hear. Beautiful camper, I'm sure it's very well built, but just good to know the other side of things.
Another excellent video. Are roof solar panels an option ? Since it is a 'walk-on' roof is a ladder included ? Didn't show a ladder in the video.Thanks in advance.
I've read that Ford and Lance worked together on this to be compatoble with a F150. The weight is just right for a 2 wheel drive model with the optional heavy duty suspension. Who really drives one like that? We all have our crew cabs with 4 wheel drive. Adding air bags will not help increase your carrying capacity. Also why is there not a stove exhaust and hood?
The 650 wasn't designed with ford, but Lance did word with Ford to special order an F150 that could haul it. You could upgrade the tires, suspension and gearing on a "standard" half-ton, but like others have said, this really is getting into three-quarter ton territory.
3 way fridge is a deal breaker. I have heard too many complaints from Campers. Very nice presentation though. You always do a great thorough walk through. I like having the wash basin in the bathroom. Can't see going from the bathroom to the kitchen sink washing my hands, brushing my teeth in the same sink that I wash veggies etc.
First off before I even watch the vid I’d like to start w/ ‘EXCELLENT’ murrelet, perfect set, ‘a mountain range’ for camping. Someone w/ brains stepped up, thank you. Let’s work on the color next, can we have it w/ some forest & a color scheme to match, the forest pl.
YES, Lance campers are the best. Lance sells more truck campers than any other brand. Funny note- Lance, which is built in the California desert is the #1 truck camper sold in Alaska. !
Yea no, we have one lance dealership in the state which is going out of buisness. Lances aren't the best on the market nor are they the top seller in Alaska. Travelite is followed by Forest River.
Question for the reviewer or any owners if this model - does the bedding get in the way of the refrigerator door? The door looks pretty close to the mattress there. And is there room to add a mattress topper or Froli sleep system without blocking the refrigerator door? I know that the mattresses fitted by most RV manufacturers, Lance included, suck.
Wonderful presentation. One question I would have is why is that sticker with the weights so far away? Do you think you could maybe put it on the door so when you open the door it's right there and easy to read?
I really wish Lance would consider a cassette toilet.. It's so much easier than having to deal with a black tank! And I would much rather have the extra fresh water..Cassettes can easily be emptied into any regular bathroom toilet or portolett/ outhouse...
Please lose the sink, shelf and cabinet and make the shower stall bigger. You already have a sink 2 feet away in the kitchen and people can use a shower caddie.
She’s one of the best demonstrators of RV’s on TH-cam. But there’s no way this is for a 1/2 ton truck. I have a 3/4 ton 2019 Chevy double cab with a 6.5 ft bed and a 9500 GVWR rating. With my butt in the seat I weighed it with a full tank of fuel and it weighs right at 7000 lbs. that leaves me 2500 lbs for payload. The 1700 lb weight of this camper is dry weight and wet weight is 1900. Add 100 lbs for the microwave and A/C options and your close to 2000. Now add another passenger in the truck and your at 2150. That leaves 350 lbs for a portable generator and other miscellaneous supplies and camping equipment and I’m at the max weight for the truck on a 3/4 ton. No way for a half ton, especially with a 5.5 ft bed. You’ll be 800 to 1000 lbs over weight in an average 1/2 ton and in emergency handling conditions it’s going to be a dangerous handful, especially with the height. Since this is an entry level camper you’ll probably be dealing with a limited experience RV driver and you’ve got a mix for disaster. Doesn’t matter how many airbags or increased leaf springs you put in, the manufacturers rating for your truck is what the insurance companies go by. When the lawsuits start flying you’ll be on the block.
Not sure why they wouldn’t have put a flush fitting range top?! There is ZERO counter space with that range. Lance’s design just doesn’t seem to be very thoughtful in the use of space. I’m planning on a truck camper next year, but not a Lance because they just don’t use space efficiently. I will say I love that U dinette👍🏼
@SoliDeoGloria 07 Do me a solid and check out the definition of "Karen" on Wikipedia and/or Urban Dictionary. Expressing reasonable opinions that don't necessarily square up with your opinion doesn't = a Karen. We're talking about investing 1000s of dollars in a camper here, not a crazy white woman yelling at a black man in Central Park.
Agreed. Although this floor plan would not have the space for it, I prefer a Propane range/oven rather then a Microwave oven. That way if I am not connected to 120V I still have the use of an oven.
You could probably get a custom cut piece of stone countertop to sit on the stove for when not in use. I know it something added to buy, but could create extra "counter" space...
I really like this unit but that fridge would annoy me being where it is. Surely once you have bedding on the bed you will keep having to move it to open the fridge door? Plus it’d preclude using a mattress topper or Froli system, no?
I am not seeing the $30k price tag. I bought a 2018 Palomino HS650 truck camper. It has all the same appliances and features incl fantastic fan and AC. The only diff is I don’t have the bathroom, but I do have a porta potty and outside shower. My OTD price was $16k
Excellent presentation - like to place it on an 8' bed f450 and leave tail gate on room as a deck, and the ladder - can the camper tail light panel be removed?
First of I owned a Larger Lance 1999. Loved it dry bath. I don’t like these switches where they are I’m old now can’t get down to see those!! Lance no no no!!
Beautiful camper! But I don’t see how it’s recommended for a half ton? At almost 1,700 dry and almost a ton wet? I have a dodge 1500 I doubt very much it could handle this kind of weight
I would never put something this heavy on a half ton. This reminds me of the guy at Richardson’s that tried to convince me I can use my half ton to tow a 14,000 lb toy hauler 😬
I am new at truck camping, I don't understand how you can load a camper that weighs 1,700 something dry weight on a half ton truck bed? Am I missing something?
No you're right for asking. Once you start loading it up you're instantly over the GVWR. Dealers aren't responsible for that, thats the owners job to make sure you're under your legal GVWR.
I dont quite understand the weight thing...it can be carried by a 1/2 ton, but the weight is 1900ish. How does that work? I have a Ram 1500 4x4 360 c.i., with HD suspension, steering stabilizer, oversized trans cooler, antisway bar, etc., but it's a 1/2 ton. Can I carry this much weight?
not for any reasonable half-ton truck. By the time you get a truck built up to carry it you could have it put it on a one ton cheaper and better (I think)
The best way to haul and camp in these with a F150 is to mount it onto a $1700 dollar aluminum trailer...seen a lot of this in Canada. Re-sale on a truck camper is better than a travel trailer. Trailer is easily towed by a car...nevermind a truck. And there is room for bikes and camping gear in the box of the truck.
Why not make a deeper sink stainless. Needs to have a pull out cutting board. The wet bath is a plus. I love tankless water heater. Instant on. They also never should put refrig in bed area. I usually like lance a lot better. This one not!
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This 5ft lady knows how to show campers the way u would use it. And makes it easy to understand the way she speaks. Thk u
She is truly wonderful. I love her so much!
Most rv salesmen seem like unknowlegdeable used car sales people. They don't seem to understand it is the living space which is important. PJ is the best!
The fact that this thing has a bathroom/shower in it is amazing already.
what is the price of this camper
She is by far the best RV reviewer I have seen. Lots of important details w/o being repetitive. Example: telling us the interior height. I am 6' 3" so it is always good to know. The tiny space is really well laid out.
No question on this. I have watched hours and hours of reviews over the past decade. She gives the best of anyone out there!
I agree she is fantastic!! I want to go buy one from her because this is the best review I have ever seen and like the previous poster I have also watched hours and this is be far the best presentation.
wa is the price of this camper
The key word is it will “fit” on a 1/2 ton, fitting and being a legal payload are two different things. The dry weight is 1700lbs, optioned out its around 2100lbs. Then add maybe 300lbs of clothes, pots & pans, food and camping gear and you’re at 2400lbs, plus a driver, passenger and the dog will add around another 400 lbs so now you’re at 2800lbs of total payload but you probably carry around another 100lbs of just in case stuff. So lets just call it 2900lbs of payload. The vast majority of 1/2 ton pickups have 1500 lbs of payload +/- 200lbs. Optioned out crew cabs can be as low as 1000lbs. I think Ford has a special heavy duty 1/2 ton at with around 2200 lbs of payload. Don’t let the dealer convince you that you can make it work with upgraded suspension parts, the payload sticker on your truck is the legal limit regardless of aftermarket parts. You may also affect your warranty on that new truck. I know that there are lots of folks running a few hundred over but if your payload limit is 1500 lbs and you’re carrying almost twice that you’re doing more than just fudging a little.
Thank you for responding to the weight on this camper, gives a lot to think about. Great advice, it doesn’t take much to go over vehicle weight limits from the factory, thanks.
They should show a list of which trucks can handle this for sure!
Idk my 22 year old truck has a 1700# payload
Although it is a 2wd rcsb so it’s the lightest one you can buy as well
You need a bare bones regular cab if you wanna put this on a half ton, and that is already pushing the limits. I would go 3/4 or 1 ton with this much weight.
I bought a travel lite, just under 1300 lbs for my half ton Silverado, took out microwave, want to switch out Dometic air conditioner for a fantastic fan which will lower a bit of wieght, manual jacks, use liight compact camping dishes and pots, carry a small light screen tent, everything is light and compact (more hiking/camping type stuff), except food. Have air bags and it carries well. Rarely fill the water tank, but carry a gallon of water, depends on where I'm camping and travel distance. Sometimes tow a small flat bottom aluminum boat.
This knowledgeable woman is a great presenter...please use her for other models. Much appreciated.
Best review lady EVER no useless information
The design is extremely smart. I would love to live in that thing.
The down to earth explanation was just excellent!
That seems like the perfect camper for one person traveling alone.
That is exactly how I feel about it. I'm going from 3 years in a low roof cargo van to possibly a truck camper such as this one. Everything I built out in the van comes ready to go in this Lance, and probably in a far more efficient setup for energy and water consumption and application. I'm looking at this Lance and at the NuCamp Cirrus 620
Fantastic presentation from a knowledgeable lady.
Beautifully presented, thank you! One of the very best presenters around 👌
Truly this is the best review I’ve ever seen for a camper this lady is amazing
Best tour of these truck bed campers I've seen 👌
This is actually nicer than some teardrop campers.
It should be at 60k
@@mikeraftis6332 30k
This video is balanced, honest and informative. Thank you!
Thank you for doing such a great job - you and your cameraman
Can install tesla cybertruck?
At first I the net above table and the 2 cupboards was it for dishes, food and clothes. But that storage in bed area was a game changer.
Great job showcasing this unit young lady !
Most 1/2 ton crew cab trucks have around 1500 lbs. total payload. Add 200 pound driver and 150 pound passenger and you are already down to 1150 loaded camper weight. Always read the GVW on door tag of truck. Then subtract passengers and cargo. What is left is camper weight.
This is a nice Lance truck camper. . I like that it has storage/ closet by the bed. It never seen a refrigerator by a bed like that before. Very nice though. Thank you so much PJ for showing this Lance. Great job! 👍
Fridge in a good location so can reach for a cold beer while laid in bed watching tv❤
a on demand water heater that is awesome I have one in my trailer and love love it.
A good presenter, completely professional.
She does a fantastic job on these videos
That weight would pretty much max out the capacity of a 1/2 ton truck. There wouldn’t be any left for the driver, passengers or a cup of coffee
I added a sway bar and air bags to my F150 super crew. The load wasn't an issue, but top heavy center of gravity. Not sure how this truck camper performs as it relates to top heavy CG.
Just leave the wife, kids, water, food, etc., at home. See problem solved! 🤣
😃
Too heavy for my Tundra.
@hard life FTW EBK maybe 40 years ago when half ton meant actual half ton payload. Right now, a Chevy Colorado has a minimum payload of 1445lbs, up to 1700lbs (oddly enough that’s roughly the same as the 2021 Ram 1500) . So, a 1/4 truck actually has a ton and a half payload. A 2020 Sierra half ton has a bed load ranging between 1570lbs-2280lbs depending on cab configuration and trim package. Easily able to handle the camper and payload. If you add helper springs or air bags you could increase that even further. Heck, a one ton Sierra has a bed rating of over 2 tons. So, yeah, the 1/4 ton, 1/2 ton, and 3/4 ton designator for trucks really doesn’t mean anything anymore at least as far as payload is concerned.
She's great explaining this camper
NICE REVIEW PJ..WILL CONSIDER LANCE!👍❤
Thanks for another thorough review! I'll be adding Lance to my shortlist
3/4 ton truck minimum if you don't wanna be looking at the sky while driving.
lol
@Gravity Slave I think I may have passed you going uphill in my loaded semi.
Your payload capacity will be on a yellow sticker which will say max the number of passengers and give a number of total lbs not to be exceeded.
Most 1/2 ton trucks are 1300-1700 lbs. I wouldn’t put this camper on any 1/2 ton truck.
I would haul it on a trailer
Yes. It's irresponsible for these dealers to tell people they can load these onto a half-ton truck.
I will say check your cargo capacities. Most 1/2 trucks have cargo capacities of 1,700 to 1,900 lbs. I had a Titan XD and the cargo was 1,900. So even if this camper comes in at 1,700 and then I get into my truck it is over capacity. Don’t forget you have to take passengers and any other cargo into account. My opinion is this is not for a 1/2 ton truck. Check your owners manual of your truck. Be safe!
You're 100 percent right. Legally it's too heavy for 1/2 ton trucks thats assuming you're gonna add the additional payload like people, tools, bags you know the regular stuff lol. You'll be well over the legal GVWR. Wouldn't want to be in an accident and deal with DOT afterwards.They don't really go over that stuff in these videos because thats the scary part nobody wants to talk about or hear. Beautiful camper, I'm sure it's very well built, but just good to know the other side of things.
Perfect for the fisherman/ hunter on weekends.
This is a great presentation.
Such an Honest review and so professional...❤️❤️❤️Luved It....
Wow...outstanding review. Thank you for the awesome tour!
Gorgeous........... I want one so bad!!
Me too. I love petite ladies, especially one with Southern charms
@@RH-rg6il bruh 😂😂wild
Really nice design!
Showcasing the advantages of having a petite 5' hottie accompany you while traveling in a tiny camper.
😂😂😂 I’m 5’2
@@aliyahholmes1396ur too tall 🤣🤣
Would like to actually see the QD for the propane as well as the tie down anchor point.
If only.. I had a big enough pickup. I would get this one! Thanks PJ great job!
Thanks for watching!
A very nice tour of a very nice unit. Well done!
You gave an awesome tour. Loved this.
Good job PJ. 🇨🇦
Another excellent video. Are roof solar panels an option ? Since it is a 'walk-on' roof is a ladder included ? Didn't show a ladder in the video.Thanks in advance.
I'd like to see how it looks sitting in a GMC Sierra. Or how the truck looks with the weight in the bed.
This design beats the new nucamp truck camper by far. I’d definitely consider one of these!
the stove close to the bed is not a good idea, the induction one would be great. you should probably swap the sink and the stove to make it much safer
These are very nice truck campers
What happens if you need to defrost the frig/freezer? ..... confused with bed wetting?
Beautiful camper.
Very well done and my choice for purchase. 650
Very honest presentation. I’m sold !!
Glad it was helpful!
I've read that Ford and Lance worked together on this to be compatoble with a F150. The weight is just right for a 2 wheel drive model with the optional heavy duty suspension. Who really drives one like that? We all have our crew cabs with 4 wheel drive. Adding air bags will not help increase your carrying capacity. Also why is there not a stove exhaust and hood?
The 650 wasn't designed with ford, but Lance did word with Ford to special order an F150 that could haul it. You could upgrade the tires, suspension and gearing on a "standard" half-ton, but like others have said, this really is getting into three-quarter ton territory.
This is a well designed unit.
Really nice!
3 way fridge is a deal breaker. I have heard too many complaints from Campers. Very nice presentation though. You always do a great thorough walk through. I like having the wash basin in the bathroom. Can't see going from the bathroom to the kitchen sink washing my hands, brushing my teeth in the same sink that I wash veggies etc.
What's wrong with the 3 way fridge for you?
Would it be possible to have a larger refrigerator?
First off before I even watch the vid I’d like to start w/ ‘EXCELLENT’ murrelet, perfect set, ‘a mountain range’ for camping. Someone w/ brains stepped up, thank you. Let’s work on the color next, can we have it w/ some forest & a color scheme to match, the forest pl.
Lance campers are very nice.
YES, Lance campers are the best. Lance sells more truck
campers than any other brand. Funny note-
Lance, which is built in the California desert
is the #1 truck camper sold in Alaska.
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Yea no, we have one lance dealership in the state which is going out of buisness. Lances aren't the best on the market nor are they the top seller in Alaska. Travelite is followed by Forest River.
Great detail, great video. Thank you
The toilet cleans itself
Time to start adding carbon fibre walls interior walls Mike lighten the load more so always wanted one but don't trust putting it in my half ton
Question for the reviewer or any owners if this model - does the bedding get in the way of the refrigerator door? The door looks pretty close to the mattress there. And is there room to add a mattress topper or Froli sleep system without blocking the refrigerator door? I know that the mattresses fitted by most RV manufacturers, Lance included, suck.
not complaining about the fridge lol...nice review PJ! subbed from the Philippines
Wonderful presentation. One question I would have is why is that sticker with the weights so far away? Do you think you could maybe put it on the door so when you open the door it's right there and easy to read?
will you ever show lance 650 mounted to half ton truck.I like the mattress showed on the unit thank you.
We keep an eye out in case we have an opportunity to snap that photo!
Love the music in the beginning of the video!
Us too!
I really wish Lance would consider a cassette toilet..
It's so much easier than having to deal with a black tank! And I would much rather have the extra fresh water..Cassettes can easily be emptied into any regular bathroom toilet or portolett/ outhouse...
Please lose the sink, shelf and cabinet and make the shower stall bigger. You already have a sink 2 feet away in the kitchen and people can use a shower caddie.
thinking the same thing
Send them the design you nailed it .
You make a good point here. Maybe Lance will look into this for the next update to the 650. Thanks!
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Exactly
She’s one of the best demonstrators of RV’s on TH-cam. But there’s no way this is for a 1/2 ton truck. I have a 3/4 ton 2019 Chevy double cab with a 6.5 ft bed and a 9500 GVWR rating. With my butt in the seat I weighed it with a full tank of fuel and it weighs right at 7000 lbs. that leaves me 2500 lbs for payload. The 1700 lb weight of this camper is dry weight and wet weight is 1900. Add 100 lbs for the microwave and A/C options and your close to 2000. Now add another passenger in the truck and your at 2150. That leaves 350 lbs for a portable generator and other miscellaneous supplies and camping equipment and I’m at the max weight for the truck on a 3/4 ton. No way for a half ton, especially with a 5.5 ft bed. You’ll be 800 to 1000 lbs over weight in an average 1/2 ton and in emergency handling conditions it’s going to be a dangerous handful, especially with the height.
Since this is an entry level camper you’ll probably be dealing with a limited experience RV driver and you’ve got a mix for disaster. Doesn’t matter how many airbags or increased leaf springs you put in, the manufacturers rating for your truck is what the insurance companies go by. When the lawsuits start flying you’ll be on the block.
Yes I would never put this on a F150/1500/ etc..
Not sure why they wouldn’t have put a flush fitting range top?! There is ZERO counter space with that range. Lance’s design just doesn’t seem to be very thoughtful in the use of space. I’m planning on a truck camper next year, but not a Lance because they just don’t use space efficiently. I will say I love that U dinette👍🏼
Agreed.
@SoliDeoGloria 07 Do me a solid and check out the definition of "Karen" on Wikipedia and/or Urban Dictionary. Expressing reasonable opinions that don't necessarily square up with your opinion doesn't = a Karen. We're talking about investing 1000s of dollars in a camper here, not a crazy white woman yelling at a black man in Central Park.
Agreed. Although this floor plan would not have the space for it, I prefer a Propane range/oven rather then a Microwave oven. That way if I am not connected to 120V I still have the use of an oven.
You could probably get a custom cut piece of stone countertop to sit on the stove for when not in use. I know it something added to buy, but could create extra "counter" space...
I really like this unit but that fridge would annoy me being where it is. Surely once you have bedding on the bed you will keep having to move it to open the fridge door? Plus it’d preclude using a mattress topper or Froli system, no?
Awesome presentation. Thank you!
Great presentation!! Lovely lady ❤
I am not seeing the $30k price tag. I bought a 2018 Palomino HS650 truck camper. It has all the same appliances and features incl fantastic fan and AC. The only diff is I don’t have the bathroom, but I do have a porta potty and outside shower. My OTD price was $16k
Nice and perfect for camper
is ram 2500 better than a F-250 or visa versa, to haul something like this?
They lost me when they chose to place a non-flat stove in the unit. Why take up that space for only one use?
Our Casita has that same stove but it has a hinged cover.
Excellent presentation - like to place it on an 8' bed f450 and leave tail gate on room as a deck, and the ladder - can the camper tail light panel be removed?
Great presentation. Thanks
Great review
Lance makes the 1172. I think dry weight is 4318. What 3500 truck can legally carry that unit. I don’t know but I’d like to know.
5 ft con 6 pulgs = 66 pulgs= 1, 676 mts vrs (6 ft 6 pulgs = 78 pulgs = 1, 981 mts de largo del piso),
First of I owned a Larger Lance 1999. Loved it dry bath. I don’t like these switches where they are I’m old now can’t get down to see those!! Lance no no no!!
Beautiful camper! But I don’t see how it’s recommended for a half ton? At almost 1,700 dry and almost a ton wet? I have a dodge 1500 I doubt very much it could handle this kind of weight
Can I still tow a small trailer with two dirt bikes? 2016 ram 1500 2wd.
That on a half ton, then just one evasive maneuver during and emergency..ugh game over.
Thanx for the vid, really nice 👍
I would never put something this heavy on a half ton. This reminds me of the guy at Richardson’s that tried to convince me I can use my half ton to tow a 14,000 lb toy hauler 😬
Great Truck Camper , i love it - i am looking for it at Germany !? Great presantation ! Greetings from Germany
Wow I forgot we were in a truck camper 👍🏽
I am new at truck camping, I don't understand how you can load a camper that weighs 1,700 something dry weight on a half ton truck bed? Am I missing something?
No you're right for asking. Once you start loading it up you're instantly over the GVWR. Dealers aren't responsible for that, thats the owners job to make sure you're under your legal GVWR.
It is possible to purchase the LANCE 650 with the All Weather Package (Four Seasons) option.
Skylight above bed?
Do we have one in that size with a dry bathroom
I dont quite understand the weight thing...it can be carried by a 1/2 ton, but the weight is 1900ish. How does that work?
I have a Ram 1500 4x4 360 c.i., with HD suspension, steering stabilizer, oversized trans cooler, antisway bar, etc., but it's a 1/2 ton. Can I carry this much weight?
not for any reasonable half-ton truck. By the time you get a truck built up to carry it you could have it put it on a one ton cheaper and better (I think)
yup
The best way to haul and camp in these with a F150 is to mount it onto a $1700 dollar aluminum trailer...seen a lot of this in Canada. Re-sale on a truck camper is better than a travel trailer. Trailer is easily towed by a car...nevermind a truck. And there is room for bikes and camping gear in the box of the truck.
Might be an intriguing solution for some to explore.
Why not make a deeper sink stainless. Needs to have a pull out cutting board. The wet bath is a plus. I love tankless water heater. Instant on.
They also never should put refrig in bed area. I usually like lance a lot better. This one not!
PJ is so cute
Will lance put in a cassette toilet if you want?