“The player is requesting a specific brand of card deck? Gee, let’s take a look at those cards to see if there’s a flaw that tells him which card is what.”
He had an edge, he could have lost the money like what would have happened to you just as easy as winning the money. The casino shouldn't have taken him on.
If you lose 20 million to a casino, you're fucked. If they lose 20 million to you, they sue you and get everything back. And they say the system isn't rigged against you. Right.
I worked at a casino for 7 years. You want the truth ? The casinos favor in percentage is over 97% in their favor. That’s a real stat. From the air quality to the sounds, to where the rugs change colors. The position of games. And the levels of noise of lights in certain areas. Casinos were designed to get money back from people and into the governments hands. Why do you think the cities and local governments let the Italians into Las Vegas, their cut was bigger than ever. As long as bodies weren’t flying into the street daily. Just more money stolen from stupid regular people. Unfortunately bodies were flying in the streets. And unfortunately people did start to find these little secrets out. And Casinos today are more fair then ever.. let THAT sink in…
It’s rigged as hell yes but he decided to deliberately cheat with and auto shuffler and a certain deck of cards that allowed him to know what cards were on the table basically making it impossible to lose, at least not a lot. Getting mad at the system doesn’t make sense after you try bending and breaking the system. The system is gonna fight back if you aren’t playing it another way then theirs.
There is no realistic way to win there though. The only ways to win there are a) to be lucky (which is not a thing irl), b) exploit some weakness of the design (like the statistic analysis, e.g. roulette in some casinos might give some numbers more frequently) or c) to cheat the system. So naturally youd think someone screwed you over when 1 isnt a thing, 2 is extremely improbable and 3 is the only thing youre left with.
@@aziblas8299I wonder if they showed the 20 million as an operating loss generating a huge tax benefit. I'd be interested to know if awards from lawsuits are considered as taxable income. Could this have been just a huge tax scam?
Alot of people who show genius levels of IQ , happen to have drinking problems! Just for your info. It's like they use it to slow down the brain or something. Good luck to you and yours!
Beat ‘em at cards, drank em into the 13th chapter. I had a casino literally throw me out of the town after winning “ to much money “ because obviously I was cheating they were not trying to tell me how I was cheating though. I was drinking and having fun comped a room then 2-3 hours later when the casino couldn’t cool me off came and said “ you want trouble here, you want to cheat here? Go to the room for 24 or leave.” Ummmm no. Police escorted me to the freeway said the casino which was the owner of all the casinos in town would press charges if I come back. Didn’t matter I was drunk they didn’t care. I was trying to count cards but realized I couldn’t but was winning like crazy so I kept “ trying “ and kept winning until the head of security and the g.m. Wanted to speak with me again. Casinos are a joke.
The casinos agreed to his terms how tf can they sue😂 on a very small scale that’s like saying “well do rock paper scissors shoot”, the other person agrees, and then gets mad and says “I would’ve won if we shot on scissors!”
no they didn’t lol. They did not agree to let him cheat. Please use your brain before you comment. Getting an unfair advantage was never in their agreement. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Because his terms didn't involve him cheating. He cheated on top of that. They assumed that if he would cheat they'd be able to get all their money back (and probably even more). And they were right because they did. People say "don't play with fire", but really you can when it's done safely. This is what they did.
@@flameflame6128 Maybe you should do some basic research, and possibly even check out a dictionary before you tell someone else to use their brain. You obviously know nothing about the gaming industry, or what the definition of cheating is. JSUK, Phil 100% did not cheat. Even the courts that ruled in favor of casinos never claimed Phil cheated. What Phil did was "Advantage Play", which is not cheating or illegal in any way. Casinos cry like little britches wherever they're not the ones doing the hustling, and they provide enough government and economic revenue that courts will side with them.
@@MsHojat how is it cheating when he literally gave them a million instructions that they STILL agreed too. A little research would have avoided it entirely but fun fact…. Its not illegal to cheat at gambling. Just like counting cards, they dont like it but thats about all they can do, punch air. Sure its unfair but have you been to a casino…? They’re all scams lmao, anyone hits big on a slot its an “error”.
Sooner or later you might come to realize that laws are there to protect the rich from the poor, not the other way around. Now, Ivey isnt poor, but the casino owners are waaaaaay richer than him.
@@aslemartinsen5284 And he was essentially using marked cards, the flaw in these cards allowed you tell which way they were oriented and he had the dealer rotate the cards so high value ones were sorted.
in baccarat you have to place your bets before cards are dealt. Phil Ivey and his cohorts convinced the dealers to deal the cards before betting for good luck 😂.
No, he used a 3rd party to collude with a casino employee to cheat money from the casino. Frankly he should prolly be in prison. Yes the casinos are taking advantage of you. Everyone knows they have the edge and everyone knows their layout is setup etc etc etc but the games are still working with a probability. He changed the probability that even the casino cannot legally change by colluding with the dealer.
The fact that he lost the lawsuits despite them willingly meeting all of his requests is insane to me. Like they don’t take that amount from people on the weekly.
I’ve heard about this story many times. Also years ago. But when I heard I immediately thought this is the casino’s fault. 1 for allowing such strange requests, especially allowing him to choose his decks 😂. And 2 the dealers allowing his strange requests during play 😂. Kinda makes you think that the casinos were in on it!
Wouldn’t say the casino was involved in this. Casino’s typically love big spenders verses the random people who may lose $100 the one time they go. They accommodate high rollers because that’s how they make money. Some places in Vegas give show tickets, hotel rooms, etc. They accommodated his requests because they knew how much he was spending thinking they’d make that money. Then when he won millions from them, they turned him away. It happens all the time. Casinos turn people away who do well in table games.
@@itsJMac2013 accommodations are different. Allowing someone to pick their own deck and doing some of the other things Phil did in this scam was crazy! He had to have had someone on the inside. Or the casino is run by idiots
Not what happened. He didn't bring Kelly to convince the dealers of anything. She was there because she she has a photographic memory. She has the ability to identify the cards by the tiny variations on the back of the casinos hand cut cards. Hand cut cards are not symmetrical like your standard playing cards. Every single casino cards back is slightly different than the other. After playing a few rounds she knew what every card was in the deck without them even being flipped over. They exploited a weakness in the casino. Now is that cheating? The court said yes.
@@edwardallen2696 I'm not sure if they still do but casinos would pay Phil Ivey to play. He's pretty much the tiger woods or the Michael Jordan of poker. He asked for a private dealer that speaks Mandarin and he wanted a private table for him and one of his guests. Not really that big of a grant for one of the biggest high stakes gamblers in the world. The casino always thinks they're going to come out on top. He knocked him dead for 20 million. That number was too high. It didn't sit right with them. So they went after him
@@edwardallen2696 the high stakes, once you get up to very large bets baccarat especially, they give you everything, he wired 3 mil but just 500,000 get you free lodging in a villa worth 20000+ a day! So that is why in a term Comp?
Casino always wins. They knew he was asking for those “bizarre requests” because of some kind of cheat so they granted it to him. They either knew his scheme or knew they would figure it out. If he loses, we make money. If he wins, we find out (or already know) his scheme and can take our money back. Casino will always outsmart you.
@@LILPHILSTAR well u thought wrong just do 5 seconds of research the same amount u spent commenting u could’ve found the truth Jeez the internet is hilarious
@@kalebanth8323 damn you are right. Last time I saw something about this was shortly after they went to court and it looked like he would be able to keep the money (which would have made sense)
@@LILPHILSTAR same shit as Pepsi offering that $20 million dollar jet as a reward for buying 6 million in Pepsi They knew somebody would inevitably buy 6 mil in Pepsi drinks just for the jet but they also knew they could win in a lawsuit if anybody ever actually tried it
@@J-B0NE lol I'd worry more about Phil Hellmuth eating, that mf is always grubbing in the middle of a session and the announcers are always making fun of him cause he eats like a pig 😂
The casinos were happy to indulge him in his requests when they thought they were going to get their usual house advantage to the tune of millions of Ivy's dollars. When they ended up losing they sued to get their money back and the courts (naturally) sided with the casinos.
Really? Because I heard that he won both lawsuits because he didn’t really cheat they just put everything on the table for him to have advantage over them so in actuality he never cheat them
And this is why I truly hate casinos. Fair is fair. You walk in knowing the house has an advantage as a player and you either decide to play or not. That’s your responsibility to yourself as an adult. As a casino if you’re going to have a hand in people ruining their lives that’s fair game, but when a player wins fair and square you better be damn sure to pay him his fucking money
Why is it that when we play the EXACT same game the casinos do, were bad guys and get sued. But people who lose everything to a shady casino who stacks odds has absolutely no recourse. Absolutely ridiculous. We've got criminals making our laws.
When the video mentions Baccarat and the card is being turned over, I'm pretty sure that's a clip straight out of the classic James Bond movie 'Goldeneye'.
@@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII how about you actually tell the movie instead of just saying 1997. U wasted ur time commenting that and wasted the other guys time who’s comment u commented on. Also wasted everyone else’s time who would like to see the movie your talking about but we don’t know because u only said 1997. U are a seriously weird fella I promise u that
If he was actually that good, he wouldn't need to attempt to rig a game to make money. Like why even put yourself into that position if you could go rip high roller tables in hold em?
@@BerryFin Oh, I'm not saying the caisno should have won the court case and he for sure should have been paid out. But if he was really so great at poker with all these big money tournaments he really wouldn't need to try and rig games to make money, just go sit at a poker table and win. Go play the big cash games and dominate. Instead he does stuff like this and defaulting on his 150 million dollar loss on pokerstars.
He did not cheat. The casinos were outsmarted and then sued. Of course the New Jersey and UK courts would side with the casinos. When players lose, we take our lumps and move on. When casinos lose , they cry like babies.
Don’t ever start a poker video with Phil Ivey in it and say “this poker player” it should start off saying this is Phil Ivey the greatest player to ever live robbed 2 casinos legally because he’s the fkn man 😂
Worse days of my life, learning and being addicted to gambling. Lol! Best day of my life quitting gambling forever!! 😂 I actually have money in my pockets now
Same her, but I played for fun and small timer. I go on Friday after work or weekends in my late 20s to AC. I played with only $100-$300 for about 5 hours and make an extra $100 to $300 and call it quit when I am up. This would be free drinks, pass time, cover some weekly cost. I am 50yo now and well off from working and investments. I have only made 2 trips to vegas in last decade. I been feeling to book a trip to Vegas, but I have young teens to care for.
To everyone who thinks this is cheating let me ask you this…Do casinos allow people to play to play who don’t know what they’re doing? All the time. It’s called exploiting a weakness. Phil did the same thing right back at them…he exploited a weakness. He never touched the cards. They never switched anything out. He followed the rules that he and the casino agreed on before hand. If that’s cheating, then it’s also cheating for the casino to allow people to play who don’t understand the games…or allow people to play while intoxicated…and all of that money should be returned to people as well.
Why can't casinos ever lose with dignity? They lost a game with rules they set and in they have the audacity to sue... How about people boycott their ass never ever visit that place?
Casinos did sue, but from my quick Google search, he only lost half of the winnings. It wasn't considered to be fraud, but it was considered to be a violation of some code. He got to keep about 10M
No different than taking advantage of serving free alcohol to get ya pissed up. Gambling drunk is a disadvantage. Phil turned the tables and they don’t like that.
casino granted what he wanted, didn’t ask why. Got out played and they’re like “nah i’m sueing him” casinos are really the worst legal business, people bet their life savings and go homeless and casinos are like 😁👍 but when someone else wins 0.01% of the money they have they like nah bro we sueing you
Welcome to the real world.. All businesses are the same they want your money and if you try taking theirs they go after you like a dog with rabies..how old are u ? Still trying to figure out how the world works ?
Phil Ivey had the worst lawyer possible. He went cheap on his lawyer and got annihilated in court. A great lawyer would’ve won the case easily. Frugal Ivey
Even though it was ruled cheating and shouldn't have been. The casinos agreed to all of those rule changes. The cards imperfection should have been caught by the casino. Phil is observant not a cheater. Unfortunately money makes the world go round and because the casinos are taxed at such a high rate the courts side with them. For context, I worked in table games as a pit manager. The list of mistakes that the casino made here are almost endless. That does not make Phil a cheater.
Casino agrees to everything he asks for and let's him play.. They lose and get upset and claim cheating. They would happily take the $3m in the same way and not say a word. Fuck the casinos.
Asked the casino to have tell tales on which cards are low/high. Casino said yes to this "cheat/scheme". that's not cheating. The casinos was stupid enough to give that tell tale advantage to Pi.
I remember a game back in the day where you would play holdem vs the bank. You would basically bet anything of value and hope the bank has nothing so any pair is good. Up to six players could play at any time so most ppl chose to show their cards to each other making difficult bets with high cards easier. Until a gang of six abused it so much that they won 6-figures in one night and the casino banned showing the cards to one another. lol
@nonamephinsyt This was about casinos, though. Many pros make money in tournaments and other venues and aren't told "you're better than us at our own games and we don't like it." If you make too much at a casino, they escort you out or ban you. Eventually, the house wins.
@@LAWoman746 that's not always true. You'll only get banned if you are suspected of cheating. Casinos like big players because they know odds are they will get the money back in a future game.
This was the most convoluted, half assed attempt at telling this story and anyone that doesn’t know what happened will only be confused and see Phil Ivey in a negative light
The casinos sued him and he lost on all fronts, this short is only a fraction of what actually happend.
No they won he had to give it back
@@ryanturner3432he said phil lost on all fronts???
@@ryanturner3432did you even take 3 seconds to read the comment?
@@ryanturner3432 you should probably take 30 seconds of your life to actually read the comment before looking
Stupid
Ya but what a joke. It was the casinos error with a deck. He shouldn’t of admitted to anything and Lawyered up asap.
“The player is requesting a specific brand of card deck? Gee, let’s take a look at those cards to see if there’s a flaw that tells him which card is what.”
He's only playing for $3,000,000, why bother😂
He had an edge, he could have lost the money like what would have happened to you just as easy as winning the money.
The casino shouldn't have taken him on.
@@Cookingwithchickenthe casino later sued him and won.
He blatantly cheated
@@gregington. but their dumbasses literally let him cheat and then get their pussies hurt about it...
@@Toxic42069 they didn't let him cheat, they were just to dumb to see the obvious
Casinos are like " wait a minute, he's doing what we do, get him out of here"
That's how it works.
Cope
@@lukeforbes2008imagine bootlicking casinos of all places 🤡
Well Casino's protect their existence more than cheat but some do get cheated where the Casino would've been fucking fine.
They don't like competition
Basically he cheated with the casinos' permission, then they sued him because he won too much.
it's not "basically cheating" when both parties agree to the exact same rules which are then followed to the letter.
@@michaelweston2285no that’s collusion
@@richard7386wouldn't be the first time the sc was full of idiots
@@michaelweston2285 Yeah, but if Phil negotiated in bad faith, which he did, then it's not exactly cheating, but it's most certainly criminal.
Exactly 😂
If you lose 20 million to a casino, you're fucked.
If they lose 20 million to you, they sue you and get everything back.
And they say the system isn't rigged against you. Right.
The house openly admits the system is rigged in their favors. Gamblers are still too stupid to leave their money in their pockets.
I worked at a casino for 7 years. You want the truth ? The casinos favor in percentage is over 97% in their favor. That’s a real stat. From the air quality to the sounds, to where the rugs change colors. The position of games. And the levels of noise of lights in certain areas. Casinos were designed to get money back from people and into the governments hands. Why do you think the cities and local governments let the Italians into Las Vegas, their cut was bigger than ever. As long as bodies weren’t flying into the street daily. Just more money stolen from stupid regular people. Unfortunately bodies were flying in the streets. And unfortunately people did start to find these little secrets out. And Casinos today are more fair then ever.. let THAT sink in…
No one says that though lmfao. Literally everyone knows casinos have the edge.
@@timvu9427 And the casino agreed to his terms. Your point being what?
It’s rigged as hell yes but he decided to deliberately cheat with and auto shuffler and a certain deck of cards that allowed him to know what cards were on the table basically making it impossible to lose, at least not a lot. Getting mad at the system doesn’t make sense after you try bending and breaking the system. The system is gonna fight back if you aren’t playing it another way then theirs.
“Scheme”
When casinos lose they say they got cheated
Well he cheated tho
There is no realistic way to win there though. The only ways to win there are a) to be lucky (which is not a thing irl), b) exploit some weakness of the design (like the statistic analysis, e.g. roulette in some casinos might give some numbers more frequently) or c) to cheat the system.
So naturally youd think someone screwed you over when 1 isnt a thing, 2 is extremely improbable and 3 is the only thing youre left with.
@@angeln_am_bach5198 he didn't cheat. Just like card counting or arbitrage betting, edge sorting is not illegal
@@angeln_am_bach5198 not cheat
@@angeln_am_bach5198he didn't cheat, wake up!
So the casino helped him set up his scheme then sued him for it? They're accomplices! 🤣
Ah thank you! I really like to know who got the money?there’s more to this than meets the eye 😂 G D casino cry babies!
@@aziblas8299I wonder if they showed the 20 million as an operating loss generating a huge tax benefit. I'd be interested to know if awards from lawsuits are considered as taxable income. Could this have been just a huge tax scam?
Exactly everyone he played against should sue the casinos
Fuck yeah they are! 😂
My mum was banned from any table games at the casino in my town because she is an actual mathematics wizard and an alcoholic.
Alot of people who show genius levels of IQ , happen to have drinking problems! Just for your info. It's like they use it to slow down the brain or something. Good luck to you and yours!
Dangerous combo 😂
😂😂😂 very dangerous combination
Allen lol
Beat ‘em at cards, drank em into the 13th chapter. I had a casino literally throw me out of the town after winning “ to much money “ because obviously I was cheating they were not trying to tell me how I was cheating though. I was drinking and having fun comped a room then 2-3 hours later when the casino couldn’t cool me off came and said “ you want trouble here, you want to cheat here? Go to the room for 24 or leave.” Ummmm no. Police escorted me to the freeway said the casino which was the owner of all the casinos in town would press charges if I come back. Didn’t matter I was drunk they didn’t care. I was trying to count cards but realized I couldn’t but was winning like crazy so I kept “ trying “ and kept winning until the head of security and the g.m. Wanted to speak with me again. Casinos are a joke.
The casinos agreed to his terms how tf can they sue😂 on a very small scale that’s like saying “well do rock paper scissors shoot”, the other person agrees, and then gets mad and says “I would’ve won if we shot on scissors!”
dude legit cheated and the casino didn't know there was a way to read those cards until it actually happened. This is why he lost the court case.
Well that analogy doesn't really make sense since neither of the people playing rock paper scissors cheated.
@@dox42o casinos cheat all the time. Not bad to call out the hypocrisy
@@toragic3432 That’s my point!!!! The casino and the dude agreed on terms therefore it’s not cheating because he’s playing within the terms😂
The casinos didn’t agree to his partner convincing the dealers to cheat with them
they agreed to everything and then cry when he wins 20 million
no they didn’t lol. They did not agree to let him cheat. Please use your brain before you comment. Getting an unfair advantage was never in their agreement. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Because his terms didn't involve him cheating. He cheated on top of that.
They assumed that if he would cheat they'd be able to get all their money back (and probably even more). And they were right because they did.
People say "don't play with fire", but really you can when it's done safely. This is what they did.
@@flameflame6128 Maybe you should do some basic research, and possibly even check out a dictionary before you tell someone else to use their brain. You obviously know nothing about the gaming industry, or what the definition of cheating is.
JSUK, Phil 100% did not cheat. Even the courts that ruled in favor of casinos never claimed Phil cheated. What Phil did was "Advantage Play", which is not cheating or illegal in any way. Casinos cry like little britches wherever they're not the ones doing the hustling, and they provide enough government and economic revenue that courts will side with them.
@@MsHojat how is it cheating when he literally gave them a million instructions that they STILL agreed too. A little research would have avoided it entirely but fun fact…. Its not illegal to cheat at gambling. Just like counting cards, they dont like it but thats about all they can do, punch air. Sure its unfair but have you been to a casino…? They’re all scams lmao, anyone hits big on a slot its an “error”.
well he cheated duhhh
The house don't like to lose 😂 Phil is a MASTER. If I were the judge they would've had to eat it lol😂
If those establishments didn't automatically have many red flags after his bizarre requests, and played along, they deserve to be taken.
Bro is playing some next level games beyond Baccarat.
Ll9
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Cope
I bet the floor magician at the casino was laughing the whole time.
My brain had fun turning that into a visual.😂😂😂
I love how you can lose everything at a casino and they say "that's tough luck" but if you win its sue sue sue.
Sooner or later you might come to realize that laws are there to protect the rich from the poor, not the other way around. Now, Ivey isnt poor, but the casino owners are waaaaaay richer than him.
@@aslemartinsen5284 And he was essentially using marked cards, the flaw in these cards allowed you tell which way they were oriented and he had the dealer rotate the cards so high value ones were sorted.
He didn't win. He *cheated*.
It's theft and he was lucky to escape prison.
They agreed thinking it wouldn’t help him 😂 that’s their fault
agree 100%
in baccarat you have to place your bets before cards are dealt. Phil Ivey and his cohorts convinced the dealers to deal the cards before betting for good luck 😂.
he had to pay the money back. it was stupid. casino agreed and then wined about how they lost. they are supposed to always win.
They didn't agree to have the cards rotated though. That part was the shady part.
Basically the casino got beaten in there own games and sued him for it,wow!!
No, he used a 3rd party to collude with a casino employee to cheat money from the casino. Frankly he should prolly be in prison. Yes the casinos are taking advantage of you. Everyone knows they have the edge and everyone knows their layout is setup etc etc etc but the games are still working with a probability. He changed the probability that even the casino cannot legally change by colluding with the dealer.
@@StoneXue How did you get this information?
@@BigG1691 By... The short?
@@RealCraftspirit short? Do elaborate.
@@StoneXue “prolly”? You really used “prolly”? 😂
Met him in the Bellagio years ago. We talked about everything except gambling. Nice guy.
you talk about yo mama? burned!
You talked, he listened waiting for you to stfu
The fact that he lost the lawsuits despite them willingly meeting all of his requests is insane to me. Like they don’t take that amount from people on the weekly.
Casinos donate millions to politicians
He's american, and rhe courts where in England. Thats why he lost.
I’ve heard about this story many times. Also years ago. But when I heard I immediately thought this is the casino’s fault. 1 for allowing such strange requests, especially allowing him to choose his decks 😂. And 2 the dealers allowing his strange requests during play 😂. Kinda makes you think that the casinos were in on it!
Your logic is sound. In what world can the casino not be involved. Very strange.
Wouldn’t say the casino was involved in this. Casino’s typically love big spenders verses the random people who may lose $100 the one time they go. They accommodate high rollers because that’s how they make money. Some places in Vegas give show tickets, hotel rooms, etc. They accommodated his requests because they knew how much he was spending thinking they’d make that money. Then when he won millions from them, they turned him away. It happens all the time. Casinos turn people away who do well in table games.
@@itsJMac2013 accommodations are different. Allowing someone to pick their own deck and doing some of the other things Phil did in this scam was crazy! He had to have had someone on the inside. Or the casino is run by idiots
If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying
Lamaaao🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you need to cheat to win, get better lol
@@one-to-one-ratio In all fairness, casino's are a scam and should be scammed themselves. It's all a sh*t show to begin with
Eddie Guerrero
@@one-to-one-ratio casinos literally don’t play fair….
Casinos agreed and then they sued when they lost? SMH!
Money talks...
When my hustle beats your hustle, you quit.
There is a alot more to the story. Its crazy how he works.
Not what happened. He didn't bring Kelly to convince the dealers of anything. She was there because she she has a photographic memory. She has the ability to identify the cards by the tiny variations on the back of the casinos hand cut cards. Hand cut cards are not symmetrical like your standard playing cards. Every single casino cards back is slightly different than the other. After playing a few rounds she knew what every card was in the deck without them even being flipped over. They exploited a weakness in the casino. Now is that cheating? The court said yes.
Wtf would the casino allow those requests?
@@edwardallen2696 I'm not sure if they still do but casinos would pay Phil Ivey to play. He's pretty much the tiger woods or the Michael Jordan of poker. He asked for a private dealer that speaks Mandarin and he wanted a private table for him and one of his guests. Not really that big of a grant for one of the biggest high stakes gamblers in the world. The casino always thinks they're going to come out on top. He knocked him dead for 20 million. That number was too high. It didn't sit right with them. So they went after him
This is true
@@edwardallen2696 the high stakes, once you get up to very large bets baccarat especially, they give you everything, he wired 3 mil but just 500,000 get you free lodging in a villa worth 20000+ a day!
So that is why in a term Comp?
@@elasticharmony your comment doesn’t make sense
Phil still around doe doing his thing I’ve watched him Live on YT, he a Poker champion 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I always enjoy watching phil ivey and daniel negreanu play hold em.
If it really took them four months to realize what he was doing, kudos to Phil Ivey because he’s a smart dude
No it’s just criminals that run casinos are stupid
Casino always wins. They knew he was asking for those “bizarre requests” because of some kind of cheat so they granted it to him. They either knew his scheme or knew they would figure it out. If he loses, we make money. If he wins, we find out (or already know) his scheme and can take our money back. Casino will always outsmart you.
I don't think they got their money back
@@LILPHILSTAR well u thought wrong just do 5 seconds of research the same amount u spent commenting u could’ve found the truth Jeez the internet is hilarious
@@kalebanth8323 damn you are right. Last time I saw something about this was shortly after they went to court and it looked like he would be able to keep the money (which would have made sense)
@David Munir not by the law but the Casino is allowed to kick you out as far as I know
@@LILPHILSTAR same shit as Pepsi offering that $20 million dollar jet as a reward for buying 6 million in Pepsi
They knew somebody would inevitably buy 6 mil in Pepsi drinks just for the jet but they also knew they could win in a lawsuit if anybody ever actually tried it
I wouldn't let Phil Ivey play slots in my casino 😂
I wouldn't let him go to the buffet in mine!
@@J-B0NE lol I'd worry more about Phil Hellmuth eating, that mf is always grubbing in the middle of a session and the announcers are always making fun of him cause he eats like a pig 😂
U got a casino?
he's a huge losing gambler, I remember seeing him drop 500k in a night 10 years ago at craps when we were both playing the same tournament
@@semesabrown8203 he’s up millions of dollars
Phil: Im a gambler
Casino: Im a handler
End the casino business. It’s internally rigged and meant to steal from you.
He literally found an edge 😆
A massive edge, Ice Age movie type of edge ahah
The casinos were happy to indulge him in his requests when they thought they were going to get their usual house advantage to the tune of millions of Ivy's dollars. When they ended up losing they sued to get their money back and the courts (naturally) sided with the casinos.
Really? Because I heard that he won both lawsuits because he didn’t really cheat they just put everything on the table for him to have advantage over them so in actuality he never cheat them
@@Pokerghost11 just Google it dude, he lost both lawsuits
It must be true it's on the internet!
But he's not counting cards or anything right isn't he literally just cheating?
@@mattpet7913 He was edge sorting, which is a form of card counting. This segment was on 60 Min on CBS many years back.
And this is why I truly hate casinos. Fair is fair. You walk in knowing the house has an advantage as a player and you either decide to play or not. That’s your responsibility to yourself as an adult.
As a casino if you’re going to have a hand in people ruining their lives that’s fair game, but when a player wins fair and square you better be damn sure to pay him his fucking money
Why is it that when we play the EXACT same game the casinos do, were bad guys and get sued. But people who lose everything to a shady casino who stacks odds has absolutely no recourse. Absolutely ridiculous. We've got criminals making our laws.
When the video mentions Baccarat and the card is being turned over, I'm pretty sure that's a clip straight out of the classic James Bond movie 'Goldeneye'.
Onatoppp
@@simranm732 "Onatopp? ONATOPP."
@@mustangmaniac1983 i swear that shit caught me off guard, she'd get onatopp of everyone and kill them
Movie coming out when?
1997
@@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII how about you actually tell the movie instead of just saying 1997. U wasted ur time commenting that and wasted the other guys time who’s comment u commented on. Also wasted everyone else’s time who would like to see the movie your talking about but we don’t know because u only said 1997. U are a seriously weird fella I promise u that
@@kalebanth8323 calm down Kaleb with a K. Everyone knows it’s Casino. And I stand corrected it’s 1995 not 1997.
This deserves a boring 2 hour documentary with lot's of insights that I'll watch in parts in 2 months
I couldn't be happier for the guy
Homie looks like a GTA Online Character
Because what? He's black? Go back to school child
About time someone took them to the cleaners as their casinos are the biggest Crooks going
Yeah he got the shit sued out of him, lost all the cases and appeals, and the money he won. As well as got himself banned from a shitload of casinos.
Casinos: come and win big!
Also casinos: give back my money
He's the tiger woods of poker
If he was actually that good, he wouldn't need to attempt to rig a game to make money. Like why even put yourself into that position if you could go rip high roller tables in hold em?
@@conorcarrigan5543 the casino's allowed his requests tho lol.
@@BerryFin Oh, I'm not saying the caisno should have won the court case and he for sure should have been paid out. But if he was really so great at poker with all these big money tournaments he really wouldn't need to try and rig games to make money, just go sit at a poker table and win. Go play the big cash games and dominate. Instead he does stuff like this and defaulting on his 150 million dollar loss on pokerstars.
He wasn't superstitious. The cards had defects on the edges of certain cards, so he knew which cards they were by looking at the cards.
It's a 1 minute video and you still missed him saying exactly that
He didn't cheat just because he could figure something out on the cards. Phil should of won his case
shut up dog u know nothing ! haha
Cliff that's literally the definition of cheating. The cards were marked and he knew it. TBF the casinos deserve it for allowing his requests.
@@johnmilik9909it isn't cheating. U just made a mistake again.
The mob just waiting for the perfect time to collect that back lol
It’s honestly amazing that these casinos didn’t see it coming.
He did not cheat. The casinos were outsmarted and then sued. Of course the New Jersey and UK courts would side with the casinos. When players lose, we take our lumps and move on. When casinos lose , they cry like babies.
Don’t ever start a poker video with Phil Ivey in it and say “this poker player” it should start off saying this is Phil Ivey the greatest player to ever live robbed 2 casinos legally because he’s the fkn man 😂
Daniel Negreanu and Doyle Brunson are both better
He's just the fkn man at cheating... Hard to believe that the Casinos couldn't tell what he was up to when he made those requests... 😮
@@travisgoodrich4290Daniel would tell you Ivey is better...
Literally the saying, “Don’t hate the player hate the game” lol
The GOAT
as a law student we know very well abt the case lmao
Why?
@@imt3206 its a landmark case we have to study for contract law. if i'm being honest i dont remember the essence and the judgement for the case
Okay Netflix need to do a movie on this
Worse days of my life, learning and being addicted to gambling. Lol! Best day of my life quitting gambling forever!! 😂 I actually have money in my pockets now
How can you stop
That’s not even gambling. He straight hustled them. A 100% calculated profit scheme
Could’ve had more if you didn’t stop gambling 🌚…. Possibly have more money😭
Same her, but I played for fun and small timer. I go on Friday after work or weekends in my late 20s to AC. I played with only $100-$300 for about 5 hours and make an extra $100 to $300 and call it quit when I am up. This would be free drinks, pass time, cover some weekly cost. I am 50yo now and well off from working and investments. I have only made 2 trips to vegas in last decade. I been feeling to book a trip to Vegas, but I have young teens to care for.
@@niktotinsticks sure or lost more it’s a very low chance to win
dude is flexing those beats solo headphones like it's 2009 🤣
They were happy to take his 3 mil, but when they lost 20, it became a problem
Lol I love how everyone thinks they know what happened. 😂
TH-cam Comments.... where everyone is a expert on Everything.
Explain?
Do you know "what happened"?
@@agsplashpoolz I don’t know what happened no
My hero…‼️
The fact that i cannot understand a damn thing about everything being said, tells me they deserve to win it
Thats like calling the cops on the bank for taking back the money you already stole.
This was a really precise and short clip of how they did it. Ivey is a great poker player but an even better hustler. Much respect.
To everyone who thinks this is cheating let me ask you this…Do casinos allow people to play to play who don’t know what they’re doing? All the time. It’s called exploiting a weakness. Phil did the same thing right back at them…he exploited a weakness. He never touched the cards. They never switched anything out. He followed the rules that he and the casino agreed on before hand. If that’s cheating, then it’s also cheating for the casino to allow people to play who don’t understand the games…or allow people to play while intoxicated…and all of that money should be returned to people as well.
Respectable guy
Salute to the duo!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Hard to believe that the casinos were totally oblivious to what he was doing... 😮
Cope he was having the dealer change the cards so he’d win every time ya how did they not know???
Why can't casinos ever lose with dignity? They lost a game with rules they set and in they have the audacity to sue... How about people boycott their ass never ever visit that place?
When your that good, THEY try to dehumanize you
Casinos did sue, but from my quick Google search, he only lost half of the winnings. It wasn't considered to be fraud, but it was considered to be a violation of some code. He got to keep about 10M
No different than taking advantage of serving free alcohol to get ya pissed up. Gambling drunk is a disadvantage.
Phil turned the tables and they don’t like that.
Casinos will just steal it all back from slot machine players..... in a week
Day
A week and they’ve quadrupled it. It’ll take one day and thats max. Even go to the private rooms and watch people lose $100k in 5 minutes.
Took even less since they sued the guy and won the case
@@BattleBondGamer That took much longer than a week much less a day. That would take months up to years.
he's the most savage high stakes gambler ever
Let us not forget. Behind every great man is a Boss Woman. Well played, Kelly.
To be clear he didn’t cheat. The casinos just didn’t want to take this heavy loss.
Wow..thanks so much for explaining...now I totally understand exactly what happened!!😮
if a casino finds out you are professional they kick you out
casino granted what he wanted, didn’t ask why. Got out played and they’re like “nah i’m sueing him” casinos are really the worst legal business, people bet their life savings and go homeless and casinos are like 😁👍 but when someone else wins 0.01% of the money they have they like nah bro we sueing you
Welcome to the real world..
All businesses are the same they want your money and if you try taking theirs they go after you like a dog with rabies..how old are u ?
Still trying to figure out how the world works ?
I love that when you beat the “house” they’re like, “nope, sorry, you’re banned.”😆 Good for them! Take them for all they’re worth.
It was an exploit tho
Did anyone here on the internet notice, that if you made a lot of money, there is always something thats after you
Literally agreed to his rules for a chance to win 3 million then sue when he leaves with 20 million
😭🤣
Phil Ivey had the worst lawyer possible. He went cheap on his lawyer and got annihilated in court. A great lawyer would’ve won the case easily. Frugal Ivey
Sounds like a elaborate way to
Cheat 😂
So how is that cheating? Lol
Even though it was ruled cheating and shouldn't have been. The casinos agreed to all of those rule changes. The cards imperfection should have been caught by the casino. Phil is observant not a cheater. Unfortunately money makes the world go round and because the casinos are taxed at such a high rate the courts side with them. For context, I worked in table games as a pit manager. The list of mistakes that the casino made here are almost endless. That does not make Phil a cheater.
Casino agrees to everything he asks for and let's him play..
They lose and get upset and claim cheating.
They would happily take the $3m in the same way and not say a word.
Fuck the casinos.
You are the type of person that thinks card counting is cheating. GTFO
@@johnv5156 that’s not
Cheating….that a skill that’s frowned upon 😂
Just because I despise casinos does not mean I will take the cheater's side here. I am glad they caught him.
Who would play at a casino who won't pay if you win
Asked the casino to have tell tales on which cards are low/high. Casino said yes to this "cheat/scheme". that's not cheating. The casinos was stupid enough to give that tell tale advantage to Pi.
They can scam you but you can’t scam them. Sounds about right
It's like a heist movie.
It wasn’t a “scheme” as you described. The casinos control and game and THEY granted all of his requests.
What a great guy. I wouldn't ask him to hold my beer.
I remember a game back in the day where you would play holdem vs the bank. You would basically bet anything of value and hope the bank has nothing so any pair is good. Up to six players could play at any time so most ppl chose to show their cards to each other making difficult bets with high cards easier.
Until a gang of six abused it so much that they won 6-figures in one night and the casino banned showing the cards to one another. lol
There was no cheating scandal. What happened is if you are observant you can notice the difference of pattern on the back of card
My fellow LLB students. We all love the criteria set in Ivey V Genting casinos!
Casinos are allowed to cheat their customers and people just accept it.
Finally someone ripped off the casino the casinos have no shame in ripping off regular folks and causing them to become addicted to gambling .
That’s hustling right there
Not really they sued him bc he cheated and he lost so he had to pay it back
We are born with great abilities, only suppressed by our oppressors.
The house always wins. You can play fair, count cards, or cheat, but one way or another, the house ALWAYS wins.
Then how are there professional gamblers?
@nonamephinsyt This was about casinos, though. Many pros make money in tournaments and other venues and aren't told "you're better than us at our own games and we don't like it." If you make too much at a casino, they escort you out or ban you. Eventually, the house wins.
@@LAWoman746 that's not always true. You'll only get banned if you are suspected of cheating. Casinos like big players because they know odds are they will get the money back in a future game.
Can you imagine if all the top ranked players in all sports had to give all their money up if they won a chapionship
This was the most convoluted, half assed attempt at telling this story and anyone that doesn’t know what happened will only be confused and see Phil Ivey in a negative light
As they should. Hes a cheater.
@@Mrclean431 you must work for the casino huh ?!?
Dude looks like Alex Rodriguez
Whoever has enough money wins in court. The justice system is for the rich.
true story! blink 182's new song is a tribute to this"controversy"
can you share a title please?
@@psylencecy agreed
Please?