Alternate Materials
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- Whether you are tying on a budget or just looking for a way to change things up a bit, having some alternative materials to incorporate into your tying patterns can be of great help. This video will explore the use of just some of those materials. We hope that you enjoy!
Production: Shorty Bartholomew and Chase Bartholomew
Intro Music: Supine by Teodor Wolgers
Background music provided by Apple Loops.
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I realize that this video came out a couple of years ago but I would like to say how much I loved it. Your experience and explanations of things are so easy to hear, understand. Normally I only watch video's where the narrator sounds interesting and I can understand them. Thank you for this. I just have to Subscribe now.
Wow, thank you!
I remember when i started fly tying money was a real problem so i choose a fly i use a lot of (my go to fly) and bought those materials and every payday or anytime i had some money, i would go buy one or two pieces of fly tying material. This was a great way to stock up on materials without ever feeling like i was breaking the bank!!
Now 48 years of fly tying later, i can fill a simi-trailer with my fly tying stuff!! Oh ya, i still need more materials! We will have enough, or ever be satisfied with the materials we have. Because someone somewhere created a fly pattern with materials we do not have!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I've even used dog hair that a neighbor's dog had shed! I worked in tackle shops for over 15 years, but I used to get my materials wherever I found them! I used to buy Aunt Lydia's Rug & Craft yarn by the skein at KMART for less than the cost of a single card at the fly shops. I also used to buy a lot of materials at craft shops.
Craft stores can be treasure troves if you are a creative tier! I have all sorts of material from them. I also have dubbing form my little decease doggy AJ.
Caribou hair floats better than Deer, Elk or Moose(not good)! It is quite hollow! The only disadvantage is Caribou is more brittle so will not hold up as well as the others! However, for a spun deer hair trimmed body such as a bomber, it floats much better than the rest. I hunt and have taken Caribou, so it is readily available to me, as is SnowShoe hare! Thanks for your video and the info!
Shorty enjoyed your video I got the noll fly tying kit for Christmas 1959 tying ever since
I have the Noll kit as well. Love the history of our sport.
Thank you Shorty for such a sensible approach to tying.
Thank YOU for the kind words.
I loved your ending! And, peace be also with you!
Thank you. It is all we can really ask for in these time. I am my greatest peace when at my vise or on the stream. Be well, my friend.
WoW ... incredibly well done video AND so informative. Thank you.
Nick in Redfield Arkansas
Thanks. I am glad you enjoyed it.
That's all excellent advice for beginners, who may not want to invest too much before they know for sure they're going to continue with the hobby. But - the background guitar strumming noise does nothing more than distract from the commentary. We don't need mind-numbing elevator sounds. Davie McPhail sets the standard. That all said - thank you for all you're doing to help others.
Thanks for the advice.
I haven’t tried a fly in over 30 years. But I’m getting back into that pleasure again! Your video was a great reminder that being creative is far more fun, then sticking to the book. Bugs took out a good portion of my feather stock. So I almost have start over building my supplies up. There’s a lot of new stuff going now. Let the fun begin!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
There are some amazing fly tyers out there. TH-cam always leads me to them. I ordered my vise yesterday and almost all the tools I need to get started. I am very excited to get started. I am hoping that I can get a good 50 years of tying in before I croak.
Welcome aboard. Best of luck!
Inspired by your “ the only fly box I’ll ever need. I promptly bought two for mr one for my wife and one for my son. Now I need to fill them. As a newbie to tying I am watching your other vids and will soon start on one pattern at a time until all slots are filled. Thank you for the inspiration. Tight lines and God Bless.
Thank YOU. It is always nice to know that people are enjoying my work.
You have opend my eyes to a whole new world and I haven't be tying but for 8 years and I am thrilled to learn more
I am going to do a series demonstrating how to those flies so stay tuned. Remember, we are trying to fool a creature with a brain smaller than a pencil eraser, so anything goes!
I like your outlook, Shorty! Thanks for this refreshing take on materials!
I am glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the comment.
Great job Shorty . Loving you videos !
Thanks. Glad to know you are enjoying them.
You have definitely taken fly tying to another level.
Thanks for sharing.
Iguana
Thank you for the kind words.
I want to go fishing with you!!!! Amazing videos, some of the best on TH-cam. I learned so much. Thanks for all your time.
Thank you so much. It is my pleasure.
Shorty killing it again! Awesome video bro!
Thanks, man!
We enjoyed your fly tying demonstration today at the Trout Unlimited banquet. Thank you for the fly also. Your newest fans, The Deemer family.
Awesome! I am happy that you found my channel. Keep in touch!
Thanks Shorty. Excellent vid..
Glad you enjoyed it
Mr Shorty I loved your video and explanations. Thanks
Thank YOU.
thank you - I love this video - so useful!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Amazing video shorty!!
Thanks!
Kudos on the production value.
Thanks. My son is the editor and producer for that type of video. I do the instructional videos, thus the lower production value. Lol! Thank for watching.
A couple of months ago I commented videos from Davy McPhail and from Barry Ord Clarke.
Both I wrote they are like the "Michelangelo of Flytying"!!!
Well Shorty, after seeing about 10-15 of your videos, for me you definitely fit in the same category. Simply one of the best and always an inspiration to try something new.
Greetings and tight lines from the Čech Republic 🇨🇿.
Wow! What a kind thing to say. I am humbled and honored to be in the same conversation as those two. Stay in touch and let me know how my patterns work for you. I bid you peace.
Excellent!
Glad you liked it!
Very well said. It’s great that you are introducing ideas for substituting materials as part of a basic series. It wasn’t until I joined a fly tying club after a couple of years on my own that I learned you don’t have to use exactly the same materials called for in an original recipe.
Thank you also for mentioning Fran Better’s The Usual, a wonderful fly. If you haven’t done a video on it (just started viewing your videos), it would be great if you could do one.
I just may include The Usual in the future. Thanks for the suggestion. And I think that you are spot on. One of the issues with beginning fly tiers is that they do not have a lot of materials but think that they need them. If you watch the rest of the beginner's series, you will see that I am trying to keep things simple with common materials. If they get bit by "the bug" then they can begin to become hoarders like the rest of us!
Shorty On The Fly Hoarding indeed. Not knowing about substitute materials has its costs in time & money. Imagine wanting to tie a Catskill Hendrickson & spending 2 years hunting pink urine-stained fur from a female fox. Finally got some in E. Millinockett, ME from a trapper who was so amused, he gave me the correct fur patch from a female fox. Then I found out I could have used pink dyed rabbit fur. Lesson learned. Substitute as needed!
Great video and great tips. Great to challenge yourself and become more universal.
Thanks.
This video is awesome, need more channels like yours
Thanks. I am glad you are enjoying it.
Really enjoyed the video, found it very useful thanks
Thanks for posting! Yeah, fly tying materials have (like everything else) become expensive and it makes sense to look for alternatives. Way back when (when hooks were $1.25 /100 - that long ago LOL!) I started fly tying most of the materials I used came from what I could hunt or trap. Funny that now, even though I have enough materials to stock a store, I still prefer those basic materials and my most effective flies are tied with natural color fur and feathers. If you or your friends don't hunt or trap ask around at the local sports desk, a lot of guys will be happy to trade for feathers, skins and tails.
Thanks for the comments. I have a few guys that trade me fur and feathers for flies. I have a pretty regular supply of Pheasant tails and Turkey tails AND a friend who gave me a 2 foot square patch of Moose body hair so I will never need to buy that again. I need a source for wood duck!!! Tight lines, my friend.
Oh man, thanks for doing this video. A newbie here. Pulling my own hair out trying to get started with so many materials to be had, very overwhelming. Your clear, down to earth video is a big help.
I am happy to be of service. Good luck with your tying.
What flies do you tie with your own hair?
Just found your channel and am very-much enjoying your videos. Well done!
I am glad you are enjoying them. Thank you.
Another winner!
Thanks!
Just found your channel. This is really professional, great video. Keep up the good work you are going places.
Thank you. I am glad that you are enjoying it.
Great vid Shorty!
Thanks man! Glad you liked it.
WTF! GREAT video for a newbie like myself. Hate wasting expensive materials.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video keep them coming
Thanks! Will do!
You are very precise and organized, a Don Bastian (the wet fly guru) type. Keep on good work, and stay safe.
Wow. Thank you. To be compared to Don Bastian is a true honor!
Thanks for posting. BRAVO ZULU
Funny! How many people on here know what BZ means? :-)
This channel is so underrated.
Tell your friends! Thanks.
Great information
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
I have thinking along those lines of what you speak of. Whenever my wife goes to the local craft stores I tag along. I found some wool that looks like material for dubbing or making bodies. I saw a trout take a caterpillar on one outing. May work.
The craft store can provide myriad materials for your fly tying. All kinds of yarn, embroidery floss, craft fur, etc. And don't overlook the beading section for some really great storage containers for hooks and beads. Let me know what you find.
thanks for the info
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.
Nice shorty 👍🇮🇪
Thanks, man!
Just found your channel and am really enjoying the content. Looking forward to more videos!
Glad to have you with us! Enjoy!
Like to see a description of using different parts of a rabbit foot. I've seen others discuss using different parts for different applications. Color suggestions?
Great suggestion!
Wow! Incredible 👍
100 is enought!
I use squirrel whiskers for my tails, I have a friend who hunts them during legal hunting season and he removes all the whiskers for me before he skins them... They are extremely durable...
Hey, whatever works! That’s what makes the whole thing fun. I have also used the fur from brushing my dog for some killer dubbing. Great to hear from you.
Is there somewhere a website, or a book to help choose alternate materials on the basis of the properties of the different metarials ? such as water resistant versus getting 'wet' etc... ?
Not that I am aware of. A general rule is that if it is a water dwelling creature, the fur will be buoyant as a result of the natural oils, muskrat, mink, beaver, nutria, etc... and snowshoe hare feet fall into that category as well.
@@ShortyOnTheFly ok thanks. makes alot of sense. but what with plumes (of non aquatic birds)
@@ludopolleunis4559 Most plumage, unless tied in as a hackle, will not float. But that is where I substitute deer hair of snowshoe rabbits foot fur as a wing material. CDC is also a good material for any number of different wing styles.
I'm going to save money by brushing my dogs and cats
Excellent!
Cdc is not expensive nowadays your can buy a bag for 3 dollars
I make my own hackle by butchering roosters
Good luck with that.