Nice report, good stuff. I have been saying for years, that a significant percentage of the EV revolution is related to conversions. TSLA will never build a 911, or a 2000ti, or a Z car, or a GTO, or whatever ... Neither will Rivian, or Fiskar, or anyone else. But a LOT of us do not want an iPhone on wheels with an 18" screen ... We want a classic car with gauges and a shifter and - god forbid - a clutch. IF battery energy density can get to 2X, hot hatch's will be all the rage. I would love to have an eSirocco, or a 1986 Jag XJ6 (w/o the Lucas Prince of Darkness wiring and ECM issues). We'll be buying conversion kits and building stuff, just w/o the gas guzzler - yeah !!!!
So glad we found you on TH-cam, Ricky. Love what you're doing. This could mean a huge renaissance in the restoration and restomod industry with the resurrection of hundreds of truly long-forgotten old designs. Thinking back thru my own & friend's ownership history we started salivating over those glory days moments. And just think - no maintenance!
I was like “ perfect to drop that dual motor under the hood of my ‘86 Chevy truck, and a couple of battery packs replacing the dual fuel tanks under the truck bed. Then I heard the price. Ok. Back to dreaming of a brand new Rivian.
Oh no, you can so this for much less, just not though this company. There are plenty of forklift motors in 100-250hp range and batteries can be just about anything. Used hybrid car batteries are plentiful, for instance. You'll have to pay for quality controller and other parts, but still easily in under 5 figures.
@@nitroxdsm as someone who's done an ev conversion myself, it can probably be done for under 5 figures but I wouldn't say "easily" at all. Batteries are real tough to find cheap, even salvaged
During Obama’s first term he signed a bill allowing cash for clunkers get paid a little bit more than scrap value for old classic cars and I Saw Thousands of complete,& running classic cars … crushed!…. That could’ve been converted into electric vehicles… Electric vehicles have less than a dozen moving parts compared to gas and diesel engines that have hundreds if not thousands of moving parts… Electric vehicle stay clean !! they don’t have oil..grease and fluids dripped all over them… (And I know how to recharge them as you’re driving down the road) No plug-ins needed
More and more cars have bolt-in kits available, with everything you need to install yourself. Beetles, Minis, Fiat 500s, Porsche 356, a lot of cars. When you consider how much it can cost to rebuild an engine for a fairly rare car where parts are hard to find ... I can see how going electric can be a good choice.
Awesome video Ricky! It must have been funny for those seeing Marc climb out of that first gen Mini, those cars are tiny! It could be a great opportunity for those with an older Miata to make the swap, a bit more affordable than the Roadster (first or second gen)
we really need to find the sweet spot, of the $10K conversion, excluding vehicle cost, all these boutique $100k conversion shops are not going to work for most of us, we just need get the kits worked out and a bit of tech support, I guess that's asking a lot
I don't know what Classic cars you're driving but I never get anxiety about driving any of my Classics, and as for the sounds and smells well that's just classic car heaven, No wonder a lot of people are anxious about ev's having to listen again and again to all the negativity turned off at 1:30 thanks for making me realise how great my original cars are - cheers.
I owned a classic BMW. Loved every moment of it. But it became a chore keeping it on the road. I drove it less and less and eventually practically gave it away. If I could, I would’ve converted it. Less hassle, more driving.
Twenty-two minutes espousing the benefits of an EV conversion without once mentioning the green aspect, i.e. zero emissions. My guess is it is a major factor, if not the deciding factor for the majority of EV owners and prospective adopters. Very telling. Very Texas.
Was thinking about what it would cost to convert a Z car exactly the way they did a while back. Would love to do this someday. Hopefully it gets a little more affordable over time, but totally get why it cost what it cost now.
This is an important point - EV conversions are far less energy intensive than new EVs as the body is already made. There should be a huge market for cheap off-the-shelf kits for all kinds of popular cars that anyone with a basic knowledge and access to tools should be able to fit. It's one thing to massively overengineer expensive beautiful parts for vanity, but the world needs mass market conversions quickly, and they need to know they need it!
Indeed! And, as far as I can tell, that market is really starting to appear. Plus, battery technology has to be (please, God) on the verge of the next breakthrough.
Ouch, 60-100k to turn a classic car into a Leaf equivalent (well they didn't mention range but judging by EV West's conversions, typically only 100-150mi).
You’re absolutely right - this is not a good alternative for efficient transportation, this is a way to drive an iconic classic car with close to zero headaches and dramatically better performance. This is about preservation of the classic driving experience. A modern EV will always be a more efficient and less costly way to get down the road.
Well, this classic car lover who only drives about 20 miles per day thinks these are cooler than a Leaf. That Cobra with a 4 or 5 speed will be pure joy to drive. (With drag tires and running gear, it would do wheelies on command. And, yes, I want my car to do wheelies. I'm not even kidding). Plus all of these cars, and the countless ones yet to be converted, are unique, rolling works of art.
I bought three Porsche 356s years ago when they were relatively cheap. One of them would be perfect for a conversation. A relatively solid shell, suspension, and the engine in boxes.
They do just such clean EV conversions love their work, and would love to see the out of the norm projects from them like converting first-gen Audi R8, Toyota Hilux, ,,,
No respect able mechanic would switch to electric. Ethinol is one thing. I need a car that's reliable electric is not reliable. That's why ones with a electric computers. Arnt on the road anymore. Most cars are from 20 years or newer planned dobscelecencd. ,. You still see 1970 1960. Literally learn your general maintenance and your fine. They are under cover not cuz of being gas it's cuz they are history and unavailbe anymore and theirs nothing like them on the marowr
There is a channel on TH-cam called Jerry rig everything and he is converting an electric hummer! And if this can be done ?…a school bus or a semi can be done…
OK, but a Geo Metro convertible with a nice electric motor would also tear ass considering how light weight they are and that actually sounds as cool as anything else here.
lots of iffs & buts = weight is STILL a BIG penalty...........years to go yet with costs too (of component parts etc)- it all soon adds up real fast-(you havent got your cate and are eating it yet!)
I had a lav mic while Marc had our nice super cardioid mic. We’ve bought another mic so we wouldn’t use a lav in that environment. We’re working on it!
Two Bit da Vinci Your under clothing body mike sound was good even in the high ambient noise environment. His would’ve been better if you had instructed him on the proper technique: Hold it straight up and just below in front of his chin and speak across it. A shotgun (medium or long) with the appropriate cover would’ve been the best to reject the unwanted noise.
7:20 the inverter/controller unit is the one like the eBox concept of AC Propulsion which lead to the development of Tesla Roadster. Sadly AC propulsion didn't progress anywhere
Thanks for recommending this video to me. I appreciate how you understand that I & many other drivers respect the environment, but really enjoy handling a manual transmission car. It’s exciting to know that the people at Moment Motors are bridging the gap between the past and the future of the automotive industry! Their outstanding craftsmanship & attention to their customer’s needs will make them a leader in this niche of the electric car industry in the future. Thanks again for sharing 😃
In the background there is a sound. That sound is a massive part of driving a good car. Without it driving an old car is like driving a new one except for the knocks, clunks and rattles
You have no idea what you’re talking about… I cringe every time I have to deal with an antique gas engine with all those gears and slow speeds. EVs make gas cars look straight stupid
I recently purchased an old used Toyota Prius and I don’t ever have to shut it off it keeps me in air conditioning …when the electricity was gone for a week , here in Michigan …and I slept inside of it My next vehicle will be a Toyota Highlander which is a much bigger and more powerful vehicle… And I will use that to tow my light weight tiny house trailer
For $100k - I'll need a hover conversion and a Mr. Fusion fuel system.
100k? Ill skip and buy a brand new Porsche Taycan....
Nice report, good stuff. I have been saying for years, that a significant percentage of the EV revolution is related to conversions. TSLA will never build a 911, or a 2000ti, or a Z car, or a GTO, or whatever ... Neither will Rivian, or Fiskar, or anyone else. But a LOT of us do not want an iPhone on wheels with an 18" screen ... We want a classic car with gauges and a shifter and - god forbid - a clutch. IF battery energy density can get to 2X, hot hatch's will be all the rage. I would love to have an eSirocco, or a 1986 Jag XJ6 (w/o the Lucas Prince of Darkness wiring and ECM issues). We'll be buying conversion kits and building stuff, just w/o the gas guzzler - yeah !!!!
The xj6 is exactly why I found this video! too bad moment will charge $50k-$150k. Not saying it's not worth it, but it's not at all feasible.
So glad we found you on TH-cam, Ricky. Love what you're doing. This could mean a huge renaissance in the restoration and restomod industry with the resurrection of hundreds of truly long-forgotten old designs. Thinking back thru my own & friend's ownership history we started salivating over those glory days moments. And just think - no maintenance!
Seriously thinking about this for my mini.
That would be so awesome!
Do it and publish some videos about it including the result, It would be awesome :)
I was like “ perfect to drop that dual motor under the hood of my ‘86 Chevy truck, and a couple of battery packs replacing the dual fuel tanks under the truck bed. Then I heard the price. Ok. Back to dreaming of a brand new Rivian.
Just wait a little til prices drop. I bet 2-3 more years they'll be way lower
Oh no, you can so this for much less, just not though this company. There are plenty of forklift motors in 100-250hp range and batteries can be just about anything. Used hybrid car batteries are plentiful, for instance. You'll have to pay for quality controller and other parts, but still easily in under 5 figures.
@@nitroxdsm as someone who's done an ev conversion myself, it can probably be done for under 5 figures but I wouldn't say "easily" at all. Batteries are real tough to find cheap, even salvaged
During Obama’s first term he signed a bill allowing cash for clunkers get paid a little bit more than scrap value for old classic cars and I Saw
Thousands of complete,& running classic cars … crushed!….
That could’ve been converted into electric vehicles…
Electric vehicles have less than a dozen moving parts compared to gas and diesel engines that have hundreds if not thousands of moving parts…
Electric vehicle stay clean !!
they don’t have oil..grease and fluids dripped all over them…
(And I know how to recharge them as you’re driving down the road)
No plug-ins needed
More and more cars have bolt-in kits available, with everything you need to install yourself. Beetles, Minis, Fiat 500s, Porsche 356, a lot of cars. When you consider how much it can cost to rebuild an engine for a fairly rare car where parts are hard to find ... I can see how going electric can be a good choice.
$85,000 is a bit much for the middle class.
Awesome video Ricky! It must have been funny for those seeing Marc climb out of that first gen Mini, those cars are tiny! It could be a great opportunity for those with an older Miata to make the swap, a bit more affordable than the Roadster (first or second gen)
This sounds like a great idea and even slightly practical. Thanks for sharing this video.
Ironic that they're surrounded by annoying ICE noise.
we really need to find the sweet spot, of the $10K conversion, excluding vehicle cost, all these boutique $100k conversion shops are not going to work for most of us, we just need get the kits worked out and a bit of tech support, I guess that's asking a lot
I don't know what Classic cars you're driving but I never get anxiety about driving any of my Classics, and as for the sounds and smells well that's just classic car heaven, No wonder a lot of people are anxious about ev's having to listen again and again to all the negativity turned off at 1:30 thanks for making me realise how great my original cars are - cheers.
You are telling me your old 40 year old car is reliable? I’d say you don’t drive much. They’re Terribly unreliable it’s pretty easy to understand.
I owned a classic BMW. Loved every moment of it. But it became a chore keeping it on the road. I drove it less and less and eventually practically gave it away.
If I could, I would’ve converted it.
Less hassle, more driving.
You can bolt on a polished oval air filter for looks and aluminum fake headers… It would really throw people off 😂
Twenty-two minutes espousing the benefits of an EV conversion without once mentioning the green aspect, i.e. zero emissions. My guess is it is a major factor, if not the deciding factor for the majority of EV owners and prospective adopters. Very telling. Very Texas.
A replica (if exists) Jensen Interceptor should be perfect for the job.
It's amazing how mass production cuts costs.
Thanks for sharing this. I have seen the cobra in a bunch of pictures and in the back ground and not a review on it. so cool of you. Thanks
Was thinking about what it would cost to convert a Z car exactly the way they did a while back. Would love to do this someday. Hopefully it gets a little more affordable over time, but totally get why it cost what it cost now.
Moment motor guy is a very lively person.
He doesn’t shut up. That’s right. I said it
This is an important point - EV conversions are far less energy intensive than new EVs as the body is already made.
There should be a huge market for cheap off-the-shelf kits for all kinds of popular cars that anyone with a basic knowledge and access to tools should be able to fit. It's one thing to massively overengineer expensive beautiful parts for vanity, but the world needs mass market conversions quickly, and they need to know they need it!
Exactly!
Totally agree, but do it to any car except a Cobra ;) Ever since the 60's I loved that car.
Indeed! And, as far as I can tell, that market is really starting to appear. Plus, battery technology has to be (please, God) on the verge of the next breakthrough.
Ouch, 60-100k to turn a classic car into a Leaf equivalent (well they didn't mention range but judging by EV West's conversions, typically only 100-150mi).
Yeah, for all the benefits, it's a shitload money for poor performance and poor range
You’re absolutely right - this is not a good alternative for efficient transportation, this is a way to drive an iconic classic car with close to zero headaches and dramatically better performance. This is about preservation of the classic driving experience. A modern EV will always be a more efficient and less costly way to get down the road.
Well, this classic car lover who only drives about 20 miles per day thinks these are cooler than a Leaf. That Cobra with a 4 or 5 speed will be pure joy to drive. (With drag tires and running gear, it would do wheelies on command. And, yes, I want my car to do wheelies. I'm not even kidding). Plus all of these cars, and the countless ones yet to be converted, are unique, rolling works of art.
Britain has electric micro-cars.
I bought three Porsche 356s years ago when they were relatively cheap. One of them would be perfect for a conversation. A relatively solid shell, suspension, and the engine in boxes.
That motor set up in the Z is absolutely awesome. That's the way it should look like.
Now I know what to do with my VELOSTER!!!
mmmmm now I only have to win Lotto. Dreams are free....Thats what I want
Hate all that engine noise in the background. Bosch and Borg Warner make integrated units. Transmission, controller and motor together
Remove the engine and gearbox from a classic, it is now just a kit car. A classic car is much more than wheels and a body
I would love to convert my Jeep Wrangler. If only I could afford to do it.
Oh I’d love to have an EV wrangler!
They do just such clean EV conversions love their work, and would love to see the out of the norm projects from them like converting first-gen Audi R8, Toyota Hilux, ,,,
Not a single mask in sight...
Yes video's exist only in the exact time you watch them and could not have existed on a prior date.
Great segment, Ricky -- Well done!
No respect able mechanic would switch to electric. Ethinol is one thing. I need a car that's reliable electric is not reliable. That's why ones with a electric computers. Arnt on the road anymore. Most cars are from 20 years or newer planned dobscelecencd. ,. You still see 1970 1960. Literally learn your general maintenance and your fine. They are under cover not cuz of being gas it's cuz they are history and unavailbe anymore and theirs nothing like them on the marowr
these are the most polluting cars, thanks for doing this job of converting them.
Are conversions eligible for an EV federal tax credit? If not, getting that legislated would help incentivize conversions.
Electric motors and battery systems are far big enough and strong enough to power full-size school buses and Semis
I messaged you about converting my restored 1969 Chevelle SS 396 :)
There is a channel on TH-cam called Jerry rig everything and he is converting an electric hummer!
And if this can be done ?…a school bus or a semi can be done…
OK, but a Geo Metro convertible with a nice electric motor would also tear ass considering how light weight they are and that actually sounds as cool as anything else here.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing
Nice car for the 1%. Which is fine, just a niche market.
Maybe 2%? Not for me tho, I'd be very happy with a used Chevy Bolt!
If you both would hold the microphones close to your mouths, the sound could be much better.
Electric Dreams of mechanical monsters. Fun
how much does a conversion kit cost for a classic mini?
Want one!
1959Mercedes 190sl my dream car and it would be better if it's electric
wow yah, good call!!
Yes sir old cadillacs swap to electric motors perfect
Exuberant... Nice guy.
Guy has sold me. I have a '66 Corvair and I may get it converted.
lots of iffs & buts = weight is STILL a BIG penalty...........years to go yet with costs too (of component parts etc)- it all soon adds up real fast-(you havent got your cate and are eating it yet!)
Aim not driving that go carts I’ll stay with my muscle car
Clearly you haven’t driven an electric sports car
I'm loving it.
Good report, thanks. (But, again, “Bad sound makes good video look bad.”)
I had a lav mic while Marc had our nice super cardioid mic. We’ve bought another mic so we wouldn’t use a lav in that environment. We’re working on it!
Two Bit da Vinci Your under clothing body mike sound was good even in the high ambient noise environment. His would’ve been better if you had instructed him on the proper technique: Hold it straight up and just below in front of his chin and speak across it. A shotgun (medium or long) with the appropriate cover would’ve been the best to reject the unwanted noise.
7:20 the inverter/controller unit is the one like the eBox concept of AC Propulsion which lead to the development of Tesla Roadster. Sadly AC propulsion didn't progress anywhere
WHY IS THE CYBER TRUCK NOT ON THE TESLA WEBSITE? To many orders and had to pull it down?
Yes, Edward Monfort did this exact set up using Netgain Warp 11s in 2014 on a school bus as seen on TH-cam.
I’ll take a ‘79 corvette please
Oh that sounds great!
Thanks for recommending this video to me. I appreciate how you understand that I & many other drivers respect the environment, but really enjoy handling a manual transmission car. It’s exciting to know that the people at Moment Motors are bridging the gap between the past and the future of the automotive industry! Their outstanding craftsmanship & attention to their customer’s needs will make them a leader in this niche of the electric car industry in the future. Thanks again for sharing 😃
I'd like to see a little more styling on the motor unit. Maybe Japanese art motorcycle inspired & nice logo.
Work in progress....Doh!
Misleading title graphic!
Don’t do that ha!
Can he convert my Volkswagen T6 Ocean 4WD?
Nice video, but the roar of the ICE cars at an electric event was a shame.
turn a classic car electric its no longer a classic its just a car
Moment guy really really likes to talk. Like, really really
"I have a question mark for you"
Magna makes a retrofit differential.
How much for a 260z 2+2 kit?
What do they put where the tanks used to be?
I'll take that Datsun Z please ! :)
Almost regret asking lol...
How do we get our car to tou to convert
After talking about how car hoods are opened to reveal something interesting, he ends up showing boring black boxes and wires. Sharp
Dude keeps running away from Mark Davis (MOMENT), focus bro.
He doesn’t shut up. That’s right. I said it
@@jspriver I guess it happens when a person is passionate about something
50-60k... damn
72 mercedes 280
cool 👏🏻
I'm loving it.
I put solar panels on the roof, gets me where I’m going even on a cloudy day.
In the background there is a sound. That sound is a massive part of driving a good car. Without it driving an old car is like driving a new one except for the knocks, clunks and rattles
you know something has ‘jumped the shark’ when someone is willing to spend twice to three times what is worth...
Only stupid people convert their car into electric
You have no idea what you’re talking about… I cringe every time I have to deal with an antique gas engine with all those gears and slow speeds. EVs make gas cars look straight stupid
I recently purchased an old used Toyota Prius and I don’t ever have to shut it off
it keeps me in air conditioning …when the electricity was gone for a week ,
here in Michigan …and I slept inside of it
My next vehicle will be a Toyota Highlander which is a much bigger and more powerful vehicle…
And I will use that to tow my light weight tiny house trailer
For making existing combustion engines,future proof you had better to buy E fuels not convert the vehicle into electric
In a short amount of time, it might make economic sense to start converting NON-classic older vehicles to EV. That's the point of real interest to me.