You should listen to Okayu's 'Mogu Mogu Yummy' song sometime. Might give you a better understanding of why her kit is what it is. She has a very, uh, "sensitive" voice.
20:13 good question, curse is best imo. the damage is crazy if you get lucky and is aoe, I randomly got the achievement for dealing over 10k dmg in one attack with a single cast from that weapon 22:18 hammer appears at lvl50 if you have a collab that can super collab or if you already have 3 collabs 23:46 yup, no negative effects. you don't need shackles if planning for that super collab
@Ganyonz in 0.7 Dev only add 1 new super collab it relate to old collab + brand new item in this patch, i mean you can look it up. I will leave it vague in case you want to figure it out yourself~
You can also super collab with the Super version of the item, however doing so does not improve the Super Collab, so there's at least one time where making the Super Collab is a downgrade over what the super item was doing for you.
3:48 I mean, given that it's Okayu, you're probably not _wrong..._ 17:34 Probably EN Curse. I don't really follow "the meta", but I seem to remember for a while that people thought highly enough of non-collabed EN Curse that it was the default final weapon. Though honestly that's more for people doing endless anyway. 18:02 ...a spot that has now been taken over by Wamy Water, yes. Though personally I don't see it; yes, it is good in its own right, but its collabs are also so good. 22:04 Again, in a manner of speaking... 22:15 The hammer requires you to either create three regular collabs (which wouldn't be happening with the limitations you put on your item slots) or reach level 50. Ah, you mention the level 50 thing later in the video. Yeah, it's level 50 _or_ three collabs (and also, one collab that can make a super collab) You actually _don't_ need to already have the item for the hammer to appear, though you do need the hammer and the item at max level (or the Super version of the required item) for the golden anvil to appear again. 26:10 I'm not sure I agree. Yes, the collab weapons _can_ overshadow the main weapon on some characters. Some might even say on many characters. But there's more than just the weapon that makes each character unique. In many cases, the skills are a bigger part. Some have skills that make them want to take ranged weapons. Others have skills that make them want to take melee weapons. Oh, and while you haven't played any of them yet, there actually are a few characters whose unique skills specifically give them buffs when using certain weapons and collabs from those weapons, generally a weapon that relates to them (you've probably already figured out who one of these characters is).
36:25 This is like the difference between a newbie and a n00b. A newbie is someone who's just started playing the game, they're still learning the mechanics and the intricacies and everything. A n00b is someone who's been playing a game for years on end, they have like thousands of hours playing this one game, but they still play like a newbie because they never bothered to learn about the mechanics and the intricacies.
30:08 okayu is one of the characters that can play different sensitive voice is far from doesnt matter u can play around sensitive voice to clear enemies get bunch of crit and become tanky get weapons that hit lot but low dmg to crit lot to get trigger charm more and run into enemy and eat them its risky but fun there is few more characters that can play similarly those kind of characters usually have skills that do dmg or insta kill or eat in this instance or if character is really tanky or have lot of healing u can get breastplate and run into them to kill etc.when i play i choose weapons to support characters skills not otherway around unless skills are litterally buff certain weapon
With Okayu I always take the lamb dish. The supercollab says it heals you and procs any "on eat" effect you have. For Okayu that means her crit increase is active as long as you stay. It also increases your health by 100 so it synergizes with the food.
Loving these runs. I’m also interested in seeing you do challenge runs. Like maybe always picking the first option when leveling up, no moving run, or go for a hardcore run where you only got 1 hp. This could be after you’ve played all the characters
iirc wamy water and en curse are the best base weapons. they better on their own than in their collabs, so it's nice to pick one or both of them to fill out the last slot(s).
3 weapons sounds about right, 2 collabs and one buffer weapon. I would say that you should probably avoid accelerating progression by not taking anvil and XP enhancers so that you spread out the level ups a bit more. (I know for my meta progression I have maxed out the XP gain and maxed out the Marketing "debuff" for increased swarm size. If I take spectacles or labcoat early in the run I can quite easily get 4 collabs in a 20 minute run.) This particular run it doesn't help the super collab you went for is super high dps so nothing really stands up to it, so once you got the collab, let alone the super, it was more about survival than enhancing dps. As for the leftover weapon after all the collabs, CEO Tears is one of my favourites in general because it covers my back from trash mobs getting behind me, especially if I'm playing a directional attack style that will focus on single target. If I'm playing a mass AoE style I usually end up using Sausage as the final weapon as an automatic close in weapons system. At max level it becomes a 2 hit with knockback so it can be helpful for creating space. Really it does depend on what is left over after the collabs (I always play full stack weapons so I use up a lot of stuff collabing). Another interesting video! I won't deny that if did feel jarring in the gacha portion when you referred to Korone as a dog though, when clearly everything in this game is a cat. 😉
My instinct is to take curse for last weapon. This is because in previous updates where the leaderboards were live I mostly played on endless and curse's damage scales immensely deep in endless runs. In stage runs though it's a little less clear a choice though i suppose. I kinda agree that Okayu isn't the most interesting kit even though eating enemies is novel. She's a fairly standard crit chatacter. Sake goes well with her kit since she'll always get the extra food crit it offers. From there, hope soda is indeed great and since her main weapon is multi shot she's also great with focus shades. Give her something like tiara as well and she is a character you can reach 100% crit on fairly easily (and as of the latest update, going over 100% crit chance boosts crit damage).
1:16 I think the middle ground is a great idea, with the hidden added bonus that you can focus on working towards a specific Super Collab that you have yet to unlock to get the Full Armory achievement. 3:27 I’m always for Projectile Shield on the Hard stages. It just works too well. 4:13 The onigiri take an arcing path depending on where you aim and bounce when they reach their hit limit, so… yeah, better to be higher up. 9:50 The rise and fall of Doot Doot, an oversimplification. 10:54 Just wait until you see Yuzuki Choco’s special… or Yozora Mel’s, for that matter. 12:12 I mean, with this setup you would do Gorilla’s Paw anyway. Shackles just lets you take another item with negative effects afterwards. 20:23 Not really, no. CEO’s Tears is just that good even as a standalone weapon. 23:29 Correct, hammer shows up at level 50 when you have an eligible super collab. 27:15 That’s understandable, and valid even while staying in the middle ground. 35:08 I love the “Aight, bet” vs “Told you”, FAFO-type stories that come with life lessons. 37:22 And the shield never went down. Incredible.
Alright! Time for the cat, Nekomata Okayu! Neko in Japanese means cat, and nekomimi means catgirl (either as dress-up or as a genetic mish-mash) so Miss Nekomata Okayu is a nekomimi. ---- 3:42 - That's a close up of her mouth while she's eating, the heart indicating that it's something very yummy. ---- 4:31 - The pepper from the Piki Piki Piman actually comes from Korone's streams. She was playing a retro game and chat was getting irritated at her, which she was okay with at first but it wore on her, so she came up with something. The pepper in it's plump form is when you're allowed to be irritated at her for her gameplay, and in its skinny form you are not allowed to be irritated at her. The skinny form is often seen in a cup of coffee and was the form Piki Piki Piman was when it was first added to the game. In the 0.6 update it was changed to the plump form. ---- 22:25 - The Golden Hammer does not appear until you're level 50. It can even appear on runs where you don't have everything for the Super Collab, but since you have the list of collabs and super collabs you don't have to worry about finding out what was and what wasn't part of it. You can only have one super collab, though. Even when you get to super-high levels, only one golden hammer drops. There is one item that's in two super collabs so that even if someone out there came up with a mod for the game (Kay does not support modding of the game), there would be no way to get all the super collabs in one run. ---- 29:39 - Hmm, now I'm wondering how you'd tackle the Couch Potato achievement, doing a run with no movement (you can still aim weapons, but can't move). Admittedly with the latest update adding in run items on top of the food it's easier now. ---- 38:07 - Funny you should mention "tankier" as there's the Tank Class achievement for having over 500 max HP in one run. Even the super collab that raises Max HP only raises your max by 100.
20:17 usually I take either curse or wamy for my last weapon ,curse cause the absurd damage it can do after enough bounces, and wamy for the 100% stun.
Curse is probably my favorite non collab weapon. Especially when taking on Halu level 5. Holy fire refers to the friendship between coco and kanata. They lived together for a while and kanata wrote a song to honor coco’s graduation. Kiseki knot.
With Okayu I like to spread out my damage as much as possible. The more enemies you hit, the more likely your charm is to proc on enemies around you. Then you can get something like the Marking Stamp to deal with bosses. Plushie is also really nice because she has a bunch of healing that you can choose when to pick up. I wouldn't recommend the labcoat, both her special and passives want you close to enemies, which can easily lead to you getting hit and resetting the bonus. Dragon fire is great, but it might leave you feeling pretty weak early on because both parts individually attack very slowly. edit: also you'll want to enchant the individual pieces of a collab before you collab them if you get the chance, if you do the collab will have both enchantments. Another edit: forgot to mention, with Okayu's onigiri, you want to be below the opponents, as the onigiri can hit an enemy on the way up and the way down, so you can hit each enemy twice.
Main + 3 weapons is actually a pretty good compromise if you want to work with that weapon limit. Would advise against that tho when doing Stage 3 Hard and Stage 4 Hard, and maybe when doing higher stage max Halu runs.
it is a decent compromise though, it solves the character skills that is based on weapons of different kinds and it keeps the weapons down to make the builds interesting for him. 3 and 4 hard or the settings I use which is 4 slots of extra enemies and halu 5 if I get it before the build items is formed needs ALOT of firepower.
The hammer has 2 possible requirements. Both of which have the same base requirement. The base requirement is having a collab that can be turned into a super collab, without that the hammer will never appear. note that the item for the super collab is not needed at all to get the hammer, though you obviously cannot use the hammer without having the item. Once you have that, the 2 ways that you can get the hammer are: a) have completed 3 total collabs (this includes the base collab requirement, and any others you did before it). b) be level 50. You'll notice that once you have the base collab, that a partial hammer will appear in the top-right of the hud which indicates your progress on method a). Upon getting your 3rd collab you will simply have the hammer, no need to pick it up, you just need to wait for the golden anvil to appear. In general, method a) is going to be a lot less likely to happen. This is because 3 collabs require a total of 42 weapon levels. And while boxes contribute to that; when you factor in things like leveling the main weapon, items, and skills, you're pretty likely to already be above 50 before you finish 3 collabs. And when you factor in that you typically need another 3-5 levels for the item before you can use the hammer, you're even less likely to get to use the hammer before level 50 than you are to get it before level 50. It happens sometimes, but you're probably still not using the hammer until like level 48.
27:00 to be honest I totally skipped the later halves of the earlier videos like Marine, Korone and Fauna. But I think it's because you're on the normal stages since those are easier and less exciting Though this part of the video should be a great time to yap about stuff like eating the batteries
Don't worry Ganyonz, you're not the only one to fall for such dumb tricks. I eventually learned to simply trust something I'm told by someone more experienced instead of testing my luck.
my 2 cents on the weapons would be try and get the character's skills and weapons up first to show that off a bit. and then try for 2-4 weapons aiming for some of the collabs and super collabs you have not shown off as much.
I am guessing most people associate Okayu with cats because her last name, Nekomata, contains Neko, the Japanese word for cat. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they put that in her name.
3:49 that's a mouth chewing....
OHHH, it's looking at her left cheek. It's like chipmunking......ya, I'm ruined.
@@Ganyonz yeah, you're cooked :v
Damn, for the longest time I thought it was a stomach
You should listen to Okayu's 'Mogu Mogu Yummy' song sometime. Might give you a better understanding of why her kit is what it is. She has a very, uh, "sensitive" voice.
20:13 good question, curse is best imo. the damage is crazy if you get lucky and is aoe, I randomly got the achievement for dealing over 10k dmg in one attack with a single cast from that weapon
22:18 hammer appears at lvl50 if you have a collab that can super collab or if you already have 3 collabs
23:46 yup, no negative effects. you don't need shackles if planning for that super collab
Things to note with super collab, if the said item that fused with the super collab, then the negative effect of that item is removed
Didn't know that, good to know though! I think I've only made 2 super collabs, this one makes three. Will keep that in mind moving forward.
@Ganyonz in 0.7 Dev only add 1 new super collab it relate to old collab + brand new item in this patch, i mean you can look it up. I will leave it vague in case you want to figure it out yourself~
You can also super collab with the Super version of the item, however doing so does not improve the Super Collab, so there's at least one time where making the Super Collab is a downgrade over what the super item was doing for you.
3:48 I mean, given that it's Okayu, you're probably not _wrong..._
17:34 Probably EN Curse. I don't really follow "the meta", but I seem to remember for a while that people thought highly enough of non-collabed EN Curse that it was the default final weapon. Though honestly that's more for people doing endless anyway.
18:02 ...a spot that has now been taken over by Wamy Water, yes. Though personally I don't see it; yes, it is good in its own right, but its collabs are also so good.
22:04 Again, in a manner of speaking...
22:15 The hammer requires you to either create three regular collabs (which wouldn't be happening with the limitations you put on your item slots) or reach level 50. Ah, you mention the level 50 thing later in the video. Yeah, it's level 50 _or_ three collabs (and also, one collab that can make a super collab) You actually _don't_ need to already have the item for the hammer to appear, though you do need the hammer and the item at max level (or the Super version of the required item) for the golden anvil to appear again.
26:10 I'm not sure I agree. Yes, the collab weapons _can_ overshadow the main weapon on some characters. Some might even say on many characters. But there's more than just the weapon that makes each character unique. In many cases, the skills are a bigger part. Some have skills that make them want to take ranged weapons. Others have skills that make them want to take melee weapons. Oh, and while you haven't played any of them yet, there actually are a few characters whose unique skills specifically give them buffs when using certain weapons and collabs from those weapons, generally a weapon that relates to them (you've probably already figured out who one of these characters is).
36:25 This is like the difference between a newbie and a n00b. A newbie is someone who's just started playing the game, they're still learning the mechanics and the intricacies and everything. A n00b is someone who's been playing a game for years on end, they have like thousands of hours playing this one game, but they still play like a newbie because they never bothered to learn about the mechanics and the intricacies.
22:25 you're right, the hammer only appears if you're either level 50 or have 3 collabs
30:08 okayu is one of the characters that can play different sensitive voice is far from doesnt matter u can play around sensitive voice to clear enemies get bunch of crit and become tanky get weapons that hit lot but low dmg to crit lot to get trigger charm more and run into enemy and eat them its risky but fun there is few more characters that can play similarly those kind of characters usually have skills that do dmg or insta kill or eat in this instance or if character is really tanky or have lot of healing u can get breastplate and run into them to kill etc.when i play i choose weapons to support characters skills not otherway around unless skills are litterally buff certain weapon
With Okayu I always take the lamb dish. The supercollab says it heals you and procs any "on eat" effect you have. For Okayu that means her crit increase is active as long as you stay. It also increases your health by 100 so it synergizes with the food.
Loving these runs. I’m also interested in seeing you do challenge runs. Like maybe always picking the first option when leveling up, no moving run, or go for a hardcore run where you only got 1 hp. This could be after you’ve played all the characters
iirc wamy water and en curse are the best base weapons. they better on their own than in their collabs, so it's nice to pick one or both of them to fill out the last slot(s).
3 weapons sounds about right, 2 collabs and one buffer weapon. I would say that you should probably avoid accelerating progression by not taking anvil and XP enhancers so that you spread out the level ups a bit more.
(I know for my meta progression I have maxed out the XP gain and maxed out the Marketing "debuff" for increased swarm size. If I take spectacles or labcoat early in the run I can quite easily get 4 collabs in a 20 minute run.)
This particular run it doesn't help the super collab you went for is super high dps so nothing really stands up to it, so once you got the collab, let alone the super, it was more about survival than enhancing dps.
As for the leftover weapon after all the collabs, CEO Tears is one of my favourites in general because it covers my back from trash mobs getting behind me, especially if I'm playing a directional attack style that will focus on single target.
If I'm playing a mass AoE style I usually end up using Sausage as the final weapon as an automatic close in weapons system. At max level it becomes a 2 hit with knockback so it can be helpful for creating space.
Really it does depend on what is left over after the collabs (I always play full stack weapons so I use up a lot of stuff collabing).
Another interesting video! I won't deny that if did feel jarring in the gacha portion when you referred to Korone as a dog though, when clearly everything in this game is a cat. 😉
Everything is a cat, except for dogs. I would never disrespect a dog like that!
My instinct is to take curse for last weapon. This is because in previous updates where the leaderboards were live I mostly played on endless and curse's damage scales immensely deep in endless runs. In stage runs though it's a little less clear a choice though i suppose.
I kinda agree that Okayu isn't the most interesting kit even though eating enemies is novel. She's a fairly standard crit chatacter. Sake goes well with her kit since she'll always get the extra food crit it offers. From there, hope soda is indeed great and since her main weapon is multi shot she's also great with focus shades. Give her something like tiara as well and she is a character you can reach 100% crit on fairly easily (and as of the latest update, going over 100% crit chance boosts crit damage).
12:50, yup that's a pacwoman, totally not a cat
17:50 i would look for spider cooking, just because it's aoe and it's in theme
1:16 I think the middle ground is a great idea, with the hidden added bonus that you can focus on working towards a specific Super Collab that you have yet to unlock to get the Full Armory achievement.
3:27 I’m always for Projectile Shield on the Hard stages. It just works too well.
4:13 The onigiri take an arcing path depending on where you aim and bounce when they reach their hit limit, so… yeah, better to be higher up.
9:50 The rise and fall of Doot Doot, an oversimplification.
10:54 Just wait until you see Yuzuki Choco’s special… or Yozora Mel’s, for that matter.
12:12 I mean, with this setup you would do Gorilla’s Paw anyway. Shackles just lets you take another item with negative effects afterwards.
20:23 Not really, no. CEO’s Tears is just that good even as a standalone weapon.
23:29 Correct, hammer shows up at level 50 when you have an eligible super collab.
27:15 That’s understandable, and valid even while staying in the middle ground.
35:08 I love the “Aight, bet” vs “Told you”, FAFO-type stories that come with life lessons.
37:22 And the shield never went down. Incredible.
Alright! Time for the cat, Nekomata Okayu! Neko in Japanese means cat, and nekomimi means catgirl (either as dress-up or as a genetic mish-mash) so Miss Nekomata Okayu is a nekomimi.
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3:42 - That's a close up of her mouth while she's eating, the heart indicating that it's something very yummy.
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4:31 - The pepper from the Piki Piki Piman actually comes from Korone's streams. She was playing a retro game and chat was getting irritated at her, which she was okay with at first but it wore on her, so she came up with something. The pepper in it's plump form is when you're allowed to be irritated at her for her gameplay, and in its skinny form you are not allowed to be irritated at her. The skinny form is often seen in a cup of coffee and was the form Piki Piki Piman was when it was first added to the game. In the 0.6 update it was changed to the plump form.
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22:25 - The Golden Hammer does not appear until you're level 50. It can even appear on runs where you don't have everything for the Super Collab, but since you have the list of collabs and super collabs you don't have to worry about finding out what was and what wasn't part of it. You can only have one super collab, though. Even when you get to super-high levels, only one golden hammer drops. There is one item that's in two super collabs so that even if someone out there came up with a mod for the game (Kay does not support modding of the game), there would be no way to get all the super collabs in one run.
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29:39 - Hmm, now I'm wondering how you'd tackle the Couch Potato achievement, doing a run with no movement (you can still aim weapons, but can't move). Admittedly with the latest update adding in run items on top of the food it's easier now.
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38:07 - Funny you should mention "tankier" as there's the Tank Class achievement for having over 500 max HP in one run. Even the super collab that raises Max HP only raises your max by 100.
20:17 usually I take either curse or wamy for my last weapon ,curse cause the absurd damage it can do after enough bounces, and wamy for the 100% stun.
Curse is probably my favorite non collab weapon. Especially when taking on Halu level 5.
Holy fire refers to the friendship between coco and kanata. They lived together for a while and kanata wrote a song to honor coco’s graduation. Kiseki knot.
With Okayu I like to spread out my damage as much as possible. The more enemies you hit, the more likely your charm is to proc on enemies around you. Then you can get something like the Marking Stamp to deal with bosses. Plushie is also really nice because she has a bunch of healing that you can choose when to pick up. I wouldn't recommend the labcoat, both her special and passives want you close to enemies, which can easily lead to you getting hit and resetting the bonus. Dragon fire is great, but it might leave you feeling pretty weak early on because both parts individually attack very slowly.
edit: also you'll want to enchant the individual pieces of a collab before you collab them if you get the chance, if you do the collab will have both enchantments.
Another edit: forgot to mention, with Okayu's onigiri, you want to be below the opponents, as the onigiri can hit an enemy on the way up and the way down, so you can hit each enemy twice.
Main + 3 weapons is actually a pretty good compromise if you want to work with that weapon limit. Would advise against that tho when doing Stage 3 Hard and Stage 4 Hard, and maybe when doing higher stage max Halu runs.
it is a decent compromise though, it solves the character skills that is based on weapons of different kinds and it keeps the weapons down to make the builds interesting for him. 3 and 4 hard or the settings I use which is 4 slots of extra enemies and halu 5 if I get it before the build items is formed needs ALOT of firepower.
The hammer has 2 possible requirements. Both of which have the same base requirement. The base requirement is having a collab that can be turned into a super collab, without that the hammer will never appear. note that the item for the super collab is not needed at all to get the hammer, though you obviously cannot use the hammer without having the item.
Once you have that, the 2 ways that you can get the hammer are:
a) have completed 3 total collabs (this includes the base collab requirement, and any others you did before it).
b) be level 50.
You'll notice that once you have the base collab, that a partial hammer will appear in the top-right of the hud which indicates your progress on method a). Upon getting your 3rd collab you will simply have the hammer, no need to pick it up, you just need to wait for the golden anvil to appear.
In general, method a) is going to be a lot less likely to happen. This is because 3 collabs require a total of 42 weapon levels. And while boxes contribute to that; when you factor in things like leveling the main weapon, items, and skills, you're pretty likely to already be above 50 before you finish 3 collabs. And when you factor in that you typically need another 3-5 levels for the item before you can use the hammer, you're even less likely to get to use the hammer before level 50 than you are to get it before level 50. It happens sometimes, but you're probably still not using the hammer until like level 48.
27:00 to be honest I totally skipped the later halves of the earlier videos like Marine, Korone and Fauna.
But I think it's because you're on the normal stages since those are easier and less exciting
Though this part of the video should be a great time to yap about stuff like eating the batteries
Woah now! I didnt EAT the batteries....I simply LICKED them 😂
Don't worry Ganyonz, you're not the only one to fall for such dumb tricks. I eventually learned to simply trust something I'm told by someone more experienced instead of testing my luck.
my 2 cents on the weapons would be try and get the character's skills and weapons up first to show that off a bit. and then try for 2-4 weapons aiming for some of the collabs and super collabs you have not shown off as much.
A couple of fun ones to try next are Tokoyami Towa, AZKi, and Shirakami Fubuki
3 weapons sound the best to make thematic builds.
I am guessing most people associate Okayu with cats because her last name, Nekomata, contains Neko, the Japanese word for cat. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they put that in her name.
I'd like to recommand Kaela. Good items for her are credit card and blacksmith gear
Patiently waiting for the Akai Haato video.
Halu 5 run next for more challenges.
Are you starting to believe this was a good buy/ investment , considering the time you put into the game?
I mean the game was free, so I guess technically considering the time put into it, the value is undefined.