@DailyStoic, you pinned this comment as a way to deflect from some of the validity present in the comments. Instead of questioning, you've doubled down and now you're insulting them by inferring they lack humor in what you still think is a humorous situation. Now, it isn't a serious situation, but it certainly is a situation that puts your values up in question... and it looks like many notice.
This could be taken as an opportunity for growth and self reflection, rather than "It can't possibly be me who is at fault, it must be everyone else" followed by petty insult throwing. Acknowledgement of ones own failure commands so much more respect than deflection. Honestly I'm happy that this channel introduced me to Stoicism, but I have long felt that Ryan does not always practice what he preaches with the constant need to validate himself by reeling off his achievements every chance he gets and constantly self aggrandizing his own virtues / showing off about his lifestyle and how he's living better than his imagined viewer. Not to mention the shilling of products and sponsorship whilst espousing the evils of greed lol. It ironically smacks of someone in need of self-validation. That in itself wouldn't even necessarily be a problem if he was open about it and took working on that as a focal point of his stoic practice (the Stoics stressed their own fallibility and the constant work needed to maintain their own virtues after all). After watching dozens if not hundreds of Ryan's videos on here though I have not once heard him address a single misstep or weakness of his own ability to live up to whatever virtue he is espousing that day, instead he talks as if he has somehow "completed stoicism" and is preaching from a position of infallibility. Probably the reason this has seen a particularly strong backlash is that it probably attracted those like me among his viewership who echoed such concerns and were hoping to be reassured by a sign of humility, instead finding the complete opposite. If Ryan deletes this video or starts preening out the negative comments that will be the end of the road for me with this channel, as it would run so contrary to what he proclaims to stand for,
What a petty, condescending comment to write to your audience. All because your little joke didn’t land. So disappointing. Ego is the enemy, remember? Looks like the reaction to this video bruised yours.
@@DALZIELMUSIC sure it's kinda lame but it's definitely not that deep man cool down matter of fact it's precisely another representation of the concept of the video which is not being perfect
@@militustoicaso be disappointed in something someone else does means he has power over you. Shoes in the years you’ve listened to him, you really haven’t learned anything about stoicism
Ryan just delete this video and save your dignity. You’re a good dude. I like your stuff. Be judicious and cut this video from your channel. The early metrics on a video like this might suggest “it’s working” so you might think “who cares it’s having the intended result”- but you’re poisoning the well in my opinion. Trust is much harder to measure.
I would argue to not even do it to save face for himself, but to delete it to preserve the integrity of the Daily Stoic School of Stoicism itself. This cheapens us.
Does anybody in these comments read his books? I find it oddly clear that they don’t read any of his books cause they act quite literally in opposition of the ideals he writes about
@@DALZIELMUSIC Everyone in the world has that in common. You can’t expect people to act perfectly. People make mistakes. It’s human. To expect someone to be perfect is to expect them to not be human. But the people in the comments act in opposition of more ideals than most should. I mean in this video, Ryan doesn’t even go against any of the ideals he writes about. What, is it that you expect some sort of big apology for a massive thing? Not every apology is big. Some are small, like the one he made in this video
I know for a fact they made jokes though, so what’s the big idea ? You aren’t better than him so why make a judgmental statement, literally goes against the key point of what stoicism is.
I unsubsidized as well. I can't believe how smarmy this was. He may read about Stoicism but he's no Stoic. I subscribed for Marcus Aurelius and got Commodus.
Ryan, I am grateful for your reintroducing philosophy into my life and thinking. This humble bragging, however, is so disingenuous I regret investing even 3 minutes of my life watching it. I feel like I need a shower.
“Do not waste one moment in regret, for to think feelingly of the mistakes of the past is to re-infect yourself. Turn from appearances and assume the feeling that would be yours were you already the one you wish to be.”
Love you Ryan! Your books have gotten me through some tough times and since I started reading your work and applying stoic principles to my life, I feel my life has improved exponentially. I’ve grown tremendously as a person. I have better emotional intelligence and self awareness. I struggle less with stress, and I’m overall a more motivated person. I try every day to go turn words to works! Thank you for all you do.
I think Ryan does follow stoic ideals, but I feel like he does value money over them. Which leads to his shady dealings such as clickbaiting and other scammy stuff Which is sad cuz u would’ve been way more rich paradoxically if you were 100 percent stoic and taught thru that lens Ppl want to be taught by an actual resilient stoic,
@@uxbf_hdncbecause the viewer feels taken advantage of. You can call it marketing, I can call it a slap across the face. It’s annoying and will make people unsub. But the spice must flow I guess
To a certain extent I agree, the video comes off as not being genuine and too much repetition on the benefit of pre-order. Nevertheless I still look up to Ryan and he is a huge inspiration to me and countless others. Just hope we won't be seeing too much of this type of content. Much love to all my brothers and sisters
The biggest community of Stoics is responding with the least Stoicism to a 3-minute video. Considering all the content he provides for free, we should feel happy for his new book. It seems perfectly fine for him to promote his own work.
1. You say everyone responds with the least amount of Stoicism. Do you say that when people you call Stoics praise videos? 2. You say considering all the content he provides, I am curious how arrive at your prices and how you measure who has received enough content that they cannot be critical. 3. In the sense that everything is perfectly fine that phrase has no meaning. I dont know much about Stoicism, but I know there is nothing so liberating as the truth.
I don’t think they are bothered by the book promotion, since it seems like 75% of his content is promoting his books. They are more upset, I think, by the misleading title. “I’m sorry…” would imply something real, juicy, and full of drama. He didn’t deliver and they are mad because the internet loves drama.
Nobody is perfect. We can only just do the best we can. "Let us prepare our minds as if we'd come to the very end of life. Let us postpone nothing. Let us balance life's books each day. The one who puts the finishing touches on their life each day is never short of time" Seneca
Dear God, help me embrace my mistakes as opportunities for growth, the humility to learn from them, and the resilience to move forward with newfound wisdom. All Say Amen.
Yes, this video is not congruent with Ryan's usual content. It's sad to see how quickly people are to paint Ryan in a pervasive way when he has done so much good. We should show some kindness/patience and demonstrate virtues to an individual who has done so much more overall obvious good than bad.
The favorite part of my morning was getting your daily stoic email. I've read your books, followed you for quite some time. You have helped me more than you could possibly know. You are a brilliant writer. This has devolved into pure shameless commerce. Recent video about stoics having enough, apparently you do not. I'm the one that is sorry, but I cannot follow you any longer. I'm out. Best wishes Ryan, You are an amazing young man!!!
@@timshields8720 I think he most a handful of followers with this one. I work in marketing and had he touched on our pain points rather than use clickbait, hed make more money in the long run. Don't know why he tried this method.
@@BillHicks420 exactly bro is probably tryna make a bit more money, its alright we all get greedy sometimes, dont forget that this man does teach good things too
@@BillHicks420 guy is a multi millionaire who preaches stoic values. There is nothing even close to humble and stoic about this level of self promotion disguised as a false “apology”. Come on. Just because his books (which are entirely based on the wisdom of centuries old dead guys) have value doesn’t mean that I’m not allowed to call it like I see it.
Just recently bought the Memento Mori coin, it had an insert to preorder the new book and I have…I like your work, I have most of your books and this year I joined the New Year New You Challenge for the first time. Having said all that, this message is a let-down, it won’t change my mind on enjoying your work and effort, but this video was a misstep.
So far I have Discourses Fragments Handbook and The Enchiridion by Epictetus along with a collection of Senecas essays and of course Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. I'm hoping to add Letters later on but afterwards any other recommendation? I prefer to stick with the ancients directly just personal preference so no disrespect towards the modern sources.
How Ryan should have responded: Hello everyone, I want to take a moment to address the video I posted on May 15th, which was poorly received by many of you. I owe you a sincere apology. Firstly, I want to acknowledge the disappointment and frustration expressed by those who felt the video was more about marketing my new book than about genuine reflection or apology. As a student of Stoicism, I strive to embody the principles I write about, including humility, integrity, and sincerity. Clearly, I fell short in this instance. In Stoicism, we learn the importance of recognizing and correcting our errors. Marcus Aurelius reminds us, "If someone can prove me wrong and show me my mistake in any thought or action, I shall gladly change. I seek the truth, which never harmed anyone: The harm is to persist in one’s own self-deception and ignorance." This video was an attempt to balance my professional commitments and personal growth, but it came across as insincere and self-serving. For that, I am truly sorry. Seneca teaches us that "we suffer more in imagination than in reality." In my eagerness to share my new work, I allowed my own ambitions and insecurities to cloud my judgment, leading to a video that felt more like a marketing ploy than a heartfelt message. I understand now that this approach was misguided and did not align with the Stoic values I hold dear. I also want to apologize for the clickbait nature of the video. Epictetus advises us to focus on what we can control and to let go of what we cannot. I can control the content I produce and how I communicate with you, my audience. Going forward, I will strive to be more mindful and genuine in my interactions, ensuring that my messages are rooted in true Stoic wisdom and not overshadowed by commercial interests. Your feedback has been invaluable, and I am committed to learning from this experience. I appreciate those who have supported my work and those who have called me out when I have strayed from the path. Stoicism is a journey of constant improvement, and I am grateful to have such a thoughtful and engaged community to help me along the way. Thank you for your understanding and for holding me accountable. I promise to do better. With respect and gratitude, [Ryan Holiday]
I agree this video is in poor taste. However if stoics have tought me anything. It doesn't matter who writes it , if it has useful knowledge it's still worth reading. In the end of the day this man makes a living of writing books. So can you blame him for trying new ways of selling his books. Everyone who embarks on new ways of doing things must accept looking foolish. So in a way I think this still aligns with Stoicism.
It's weird how we gatekeep Stoicism or any belief and Philosophy as it should only be used for this and this but no you cannot do this with it. I don't think it is wrong for someone to make money writing information that aims to help someone learn and grow. Hell most of what we buy does this. To play devil's advocate a bit here since I just find it funny how people of their own freewill clicked on this video and are upset about it when some even knew that this is potentially aiming to get your attention about his new book. The alternate argument here is people had a feeling it would be clickbait (I find that term terrible since the whole point of ads in general is to get your attention but obviously not in a very misleading way) no real harm was done at all this was such a short amount of time that it really impacted nothing at all. You got shown a book and that was it. Back to my actual thoughts though, you do have to know the audience as a marketer and that titles like this will throw off so many people for so many reasons. This seemed to get people's attention but it did half the work. The aim was get attention to the book. You got attention but that second part I don't know now. I'm sure people will still get it but now some will definitely not get it.. or stay subscribed.
I find amusing how everything starts pointing fingers out to him about this, criticizing, unsubing!, etc, for this. I don’t know much about the norms or details about stoicism, but I definitely have been fortunate enough to grab some knowledge from Ryan. If this is something he should meditate, “apologize”, “erase” or anything, I’m sure any decision he makes will be on good faith. We all make mistakes, we are people, humans, and we all grow and learn from mistakes. That’s what makes us a good person, give the benefit of the doubt. Cheers everyone.
Great meditation to start the day- true intellectual freedom is the ability to break our own rules and laws that we use to self manage. "Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist."
There was a Stoic named Chrysippus who died of laughter. Good to see that we don't have to worry about that ever happening to many of you. lol
@DailyStoic, you pinned this comment as a way to deflect from some of the validity present in the comments. Instead of questioning, you've doubled down and now you're insulting them by inferring they lack humor in what you still think is a humorous situation. Now, it isn't a serious situation, but it certainly is a situation that puts your values up in question... and it looks like many notice.
Pinning a comment from a burner account named after you is a very self-help author type of thing to do.
This could be taken as an opportunity for growth and self reflection, rather than "It can't possibly be me who is at fault, it must be everyone else" followed by petty insult throwing. Acknowledgement of ones own failure commands so much more respect than deflection.
Honestly I'm happy that this channel introduced me to Stoicism, but I have long felt that Ryan does not always practice what he preaches with the constant need to validate himself by reeling off his achievements every chance he gets and constantly self aggrandizing his own virtues / showing off about his lifestyle and how he's living better than his imagined viewer. Not to mention the shilling of products and sponsorship whilst espousing the evils of greed lol.
It ironically smacks of someone in need of self-validation. That in itself wouldn't even necessarily be a problem if he was open about it and took working on that as a focal point of his stoic practice (the Stoics stressed their own fallibility and the constant work needed to maintain their own virtues after all). After watching dozens if not hundreds of Ryan's videos on here though I have not once heard him address a single misstep or weakness of his own ability to live up to whatever virtue he is espousing that day, instead he talks as if he has somehow "completed stoicism" and is preaching from a position of infallibility.
Probably the reason this has seen a particularly strong backlash is that it probably attracted those like me among his viewership who echoed such concerns and were hoping to be reassured by a sign of humility, instead finding the complete opposite. If Ryan deletes this video or starts preening out the negative comments that will be the end of the road for me with this channel, as it would run so contrary to what he proclaims to stand for,
What a petty, condescending comment to write to your audience. All because your little joke didn’t land. So disappointing. Ego is the enemy, remember? Looks like the reaction to this video bruised yours.
@@DALZIELMUSIC sure it's kinda lame but it's definitely not that deep man cool down matter of fact it's precisely another representation of the concept of the video which is not being perfect
Apologize for click baiting
And for scammy marketing practices for the first book.
If there is no ukulele then what’s the point of that title?
I don't even watch these videos, I just read the comments. Click bait every time.
Unsubscribed
@@theaviator06 Yes. Lost credibility.
There’s nothing stoic about using clickbait and manufactured apologies as an advertising ploy
Agree
@@Augusto_Caten
But he didn't lie, I think its okay to tease people curiousty without lying
Yes. It's pretty gross.
He’s a former marketing executive. It’s what he does, unfortunately.
If he is quiet and it leads to no income, it proves..?
I believe it was Epicurus who wisely said: “Click baiters are wankers.”
LOL!
This made me laugh so much.
Love you Ryan but this was disappointing on a lot of levels.
He likes stoicism but he likes the money better
Damn, my first ever dislike on a Daily Stoic video. Ryan, no clickbait bro
Click bait hurts coming from this channel.
It’s the first time I’ve seen it after following for years, and I am immeasurably disappointed in him.
@@militustoicaso be disappointed in something someone else does means he has power over you. Shoes in the years you’ve listened to him, you really haven’t learned anything about stoicism
🙄
It’s just good humor lol
I am sorry that I listened to this. You are starting to come across like a combo of a used car salesman and a televangelist. Stick to Stoicism!!!
Couldn’t agree more!
It is HARD, Ryan. Stoicism is really a meditation for me as an ingredient for life. It feels wrong to be too detached!
hahahaha nice comparision!
I agree, super gross coming from someone with so much integrity.
what do we know about his integrity though really? he talks alot about it. and then he uploads this
Big fan, but after this video, you actually do owe us an apology.
Anytime you see a title like this you know the video is about to be some bullshit.
Yeah and those "I quit . . ." Or "I give up . . ."
not like me :D (or maybe yes xD)
"I'm sorry for being so super awesome!!" yeah, i'm not sure it fits with the channel message super great
Using all your American Apparel marketing skills on this one Ryan.
Ryan just delete this video and save your dignity. You’re a good dude. I like your stuff. Be judicious and cut this video from your channel. The early metrics on a video like this might suggest “it’s working” so you might think “who cares it’s having the intended result”- but you’re poisoning the well in my opinion. Trust is much harder to measure.
Well put.
I would argue to not even do it to save face for himself, but to delete it to preserve the integrity of the Daily Stoic School of Stoicism itself. This cheapens us.
Lol at least rename it. Damn Ryan
@@jimelwilliams7523 Yes. So fake and insincere..."this is uncomfortable and awkward..." Why not title it, My New Book
@@zs4673 I’ve noticed him talk more about being disliked. I think he’s getting a kick out of it.
I'm sorry... for clickbaiting and advertising all of my books...
Wtf was this...
TLDR; "Sorry, not Sorry" - Bruv 2024
Apologize for click baiting. Lame.
Absolutley pathetic! He has no shame, trying to placate us with false humility!
Thanks, skipping this dog shit video.
Hardcore “Trust Me, I’m Lying” energy there over that of the Daily Stoic Scholarch.
I'm sorry -- just kidding! New book plug!
Oh, come on! Really?
This is a vid you should apologize for, because wtf, dude.
I thought this was an apology for the bad AI video lol 😆
i was hoping so! that one stank
Literally was hoping it was. We deserve an apology for that horror lol
Does anybody in these comments read his books? I find it oddly clear that they don’t read any of his books cause they act quite literally in opposition of the ideals he writes about
@@djw3512 They at least have that in common with the author then.
@@DALZIELMUSIC Everyone in the world has that in common. You can’t expect people to act perfectly. People make mistakes. It’s human. To expect someone to be perfect is to expect them to not be human. But the people in the comments act in opposition of more ideals than most should. I mean in this video, Ryan doesn’t even go against any of the ideals he writes about. What, is it that you expect some sort of big apology for a massive thing? Not every apology is big. Some are small, like the one he made in this video
I wonder if Epictitus used clickbait
I know for a fact they made jokes though, so what’s the big idea ? You aren’t better than him so why make a judgmental statement, literally goes against the key point of what stoicism is.
No one expects anyone to be a "perfect " stoic.
It's a path. Not a destination.
Unsubscribed due to clickbait. Marcus would not have approved.
marcus in his grave boutta comeback and give ryan some literature😂
I unsubsidized as well. I can't believe how smarmy this was. He may read about Stoicism but he's no Stoic. I subscribed for Marcus Aurelius and got Commodus.
Same
Oof the good ol "I'm sorry..." with sad face clickbait, that's a huge nope here on YT, unless you wanna make your viewers mad.
Jeez man, should have just done an ACTUAL promo vid. Would have got us all excited and actually hit the mark. Poor form on this!
Ryan, I am grateful for your reintroducing philosophy into my life and thinking. This humble bragging, however, is so disingenuous I regret investing even 3 minutes of my life watching it. I feel like I need a shower.
lol 😂
I'm unsubscribing because this is crap.
Buddy it’s time to quit TH-cam
One of your friend Robert Greene's laws of power is to guard your reputation with your life. Oh Ryan Ryan Ryan
“Do not waste one moment in regret, for to think feelingly of the mistakes of the past is to re-infect yourself. Turn from appearances and assume the feeling that would be yours were you already the one you wish to be.”
Love you Ryan! Your books have gotten me through some tough times and since I started reading your work and applying stoic principles to my life, I feel my life has improved exponentially. I’ve grown tremendously as a person. I have better emotional intelligence and self awareness. I struggle less with stress, and I’m overall a more motivated person. I try every day to go turn words to works! Thank you for all you do.
Ryan Holiday once said, “my wife told me that she’s a stoic, and I’m just a guy who writes about stoicism.”
Ive already preordered the book. This type of video only cheapens you, your message and your hardwork. Perhaps you should apologise for this video?
Ive never been so disappointed in a youtube channel clickbaiting.
Unsubbed for the click bait
Same. There are few creators here that I actually expect better from, and he is one.
I like him too much to do that. I’d lose out.
@@lilmcgill2618don’t let anyone have power of you or
Whatever lol
Marketers will market
I think Ryan does follow stoic ideals, but I feel like he does value money over them. Which leads to his shady dealings such as clickbaiting and other scammy stuff
Which is sad cuz u would’ve been way more rich paradoxically if you were 100 percent stoic and taught thru that lens
Ppl want to be taught by an actual resilient stoic,
> actual resilient stoic
Does this person even exist in our times?
Trust him. He's lying.
hahaha what a phrase for put it in the dinning room.
@@GODofStoics Its a title of one of his books Anyway.👌🏽😊
@@raymondtendau2749 Yeah I was in sarcasm mode :P
This clickbaiting was gross.
Click bait. One big selling video.
Whats wrong with marketing? No one forced you to watch.. the title teases curiosity of people but not lying
@@uxbf_hdncbecause the viewer feels taken advantage of. You can call it marketing, I can call it a slap across the face. It’s annoying and will make people unsub. But the spice must flow I guess
I agree. Unfortunate.
To a certain extent I agree, the video comes off as not being genuine and too much repetition on the benefit of pre-order. Nevertheless I still look up to Ryan and he is a huge inspiration to me and countless others. Just hope we won't be seeing too much of this type of content. Much love to all my brothers and sisters
The biggest community of Stoics is responding with the least Stoicism to a 3-minute video. Considering all the content he provides for free, we should feel happy for his new book. It seems perfectly fine for him to promote his own work.
They’ll be fine. Gotta eat something and pray about it
1. You say everyone responds with the least amount of Stoicism. Do you say that when people you call Stoics praise videos? 2. You say considering all the content he provides, I am curious how arrive at your prices and how you measure who has received enough content that they cannot be critical. 3. In the sense that everything is perfectly fine that phrase has no meaning. I dont know much about Stoicism, but I know there is nothing so liberating as the truth.
I don’t think they are bothered by the book promotion, since it seems like 75% of his content is promoting his books. They are more upset, I think, by the misleading title. “I’m sorry…” would imply something real, juicy, and full of drama. He didn’t deliver and they are mad because the internet loves drama.
@@CateB9 Or saying sorry when you are humble bragging is just cheezy. lol
@@pablolasha 🧀 e
Nobody is perfect. We can only just do the best we can.
"Let us prepare our minds as if we'd come to the very end of life. Let us postpone nothing. Let us balance life's books each day. The one who puts the finishing touches on their life each day is never short of time"
Seneca
My biggest weakness… I care too much
Lost my respect for the click bait
Oh, this was too bad. A disappointing performance.
lol sorry for this sleeper book promo
Dear God, help me embrace my mistakes as opportunities for growth, the humility to learn from them, and the resilience to move forward with newfound wisdom. All Say Amen.
Bro he's marketing guy... Whay did you guys expect??
Good marketing
Cringy apology video, where’s penguinz
This isn't cute or funny. It trivializes everything you claim to believe in.
This video was both disgusting and dishonest. If you want to sell your books, do it in a less manipulative way. Unsubscribed.
When the modern emporer of stoics acts very unstoic and all the stoic disciples follow suit becoming unglued and unstoic 👀🍿
Yes, this video is not congruent with Ryan's usual content. It's sad to see how quickly people are to paint Ryan in a pervasive way when he has done so much good. We should show some kindness/patience and demonstrate virtues to an individual who has done so much more overall obvious good than bad.
Good point. Now I feel less offended haha. Not being sarcastic too❤
Seems people are finally realizing these people are hacks. It's fucking glorious.
I don't like this video but I think calling him a hack is too much. My opinion anyway and I respect yours. Nuances.
I can’t forgive you for this I’m sorry
You can’t forgive then you ask for forgiveness 😂
The favorite part of my morning was getting your daily stoic email. I've read your books, followed you for quite some time. You have helped me more than you could possibly know. You are a brilliant writer. This has devolved into pure shameless commerce. Recent video about stoics having enough, apparently you do not. I'm the one that is sorry, but I cannot follow you any longer. I'm out. Best wishes Ryan, You are an amazing young man!!!
😒 my greatest weakness is I work too hard. Lol. This will actually make sure that even if there were a Kindle deal, I wouldn't buy!
Running short on content be like ...
Which is sad when he can tie in stoicism with current problems most of us face
@@seabeedeedaily he's only chasing the $$$$$
@@timshields8720 I think he most a handful of followers with this one. I work in marketing and had he touched on our pain points rather than use clickbait, hed make more money in the long run. Don't know why he tried this method.
He lost a handful*
Nice ad bruh
The cynicism is strong with this one 🙄
yeah you should be sorry for this video
This is gross. I’m actually embarrassed that I’ve spent $ on Holiday’s books before.
Oh come on, it's not that bad. We are allowed to make mistakes.
@@BillHicks420 exactly bro is probably tryna make a bit more money, its alright we all get greedy sometimes, dont forget that this man does teach good things too
That didn’t take much 😂
@@itomato8836 Exactly. And OP, who bought his book, should know that his books can be very valuable.
@@BillHicks420 guy is a multi millionaire who preaches stoic values. There is nothing even close to humble and stoic about this level of self promotion disguised as a false “apology”. Come on.
Just because his books (which are entirely based on the wisdom of centuries old dead guys) have value doesn’t mean that I’m not allowed to call it like I see it.
Easiest unsubscribe choice I have made in awhile - Enjoy your clickbait
"My weakness? I work too hard " vibe
A creator keeping himself accountable for his content? Sign me up
Ah yes, philosophy being capitalised
Do you pay for your phone?
Just recently bought the Memento Mori coin, it had an insert to preorder the new book and I have…I like your work, I have most of your books and this year I joined the New Year New You Challenge for the first time. Having said all that, this message is a let-down, it won’t change my mind on enjoying your work and effort, but this video was a misstep.
I’m so tempted to unsubscribe after this click bait. Come on Ryan
Life is short. Momento Mori.
Why would you think we have time for this nonsense, Ryan?
Unsubscribed.
I gather most commentators would like a follow up vid: I'm sorry for the last video.
Let’s just keep going even if shit happens
I pre ordered it yesterday as soon as I saw your video and I can't wait to read it !
So far I have Discourses Fragments Handbook and The Enchiridion by Epictetus along with a collection of Senecas essays and of course Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. I'm hoping to add Letters later on but afterwards any other recommendation? I prefer to stick with the ancients directly just personal preference so no disrespect towards the modern sources.
They always like to think their followers are dumb. Not following anymore...
Recognize the issue. Make a plan. Reset!
He's will have to release another apology video for this apology video and apologize for apologizing for the wrong thing.
Yikes. Oh Ryan
This endeared me to you even more. It’s clickbait in a clever way that plays to both honesty and irony. Well done.
also, hate the non apologetic apology. unsubscribed
Thanks for the honesty Ryan. Thank you. You're a fantastic example of being a good man of character. :)
How Ryan should have responded:
Hello everyone,
I want to take a moment to address the video I posted on May 15th, which was poorly received by many of you. I owe you a sincere apology.
Firstly, I want to acknowledge the disappointment and frustration expressed by those who felt the video was more about marketing my new book than about genuine reflection or apology. As a student of Stoicism, I strive to embody the principles I write about, including humility, integrity, and sincerity. Clearly, I fell short in this instance.
In Stoicism, we learn the importance of recognizing and correcting our errors. Marcus Aurelius reminds us, "If someone can prove me wrong and show me my mistake in any thought or action, I shall gladly change. I seek the truth, which never harmed anyone: The harm is to persist in one’s own self-deception and ignorance." This video was an attempt to balance my professional commitments and personal growth, but it came across as insincere and self-serving. For that, I am truly sorry.
Seneca teaches us that "we suffer more in imagination than in reality." In my eagerness to share my new work, I allowed my own ambitions and insecurities to cloud my judgment, leading to a video that felt more like a marketing ploy than a heartfelt message. I understand now that this approach was misguided and did not align with the Stoic values I hold dear.
I also want to apologize for the clickbait nature of the video. Epictetus advises us to focus on what we can control and to let go of what we cannot. I can control the content I produce and how I communicate with you, my audience. Going forward, I will strive to be more mindful and genuine in my interactions, ensuring that my messages are rooted in true Stoic wisdom and not overshadowed by commercial interests.
Your feedback has been invaluable, and I am committed to learning from this experience. I appreciate those who have supported my work and those who have called me out when I have strayed from the path. Stoicism is a journey of constant improvement, and I am grateful to have such a thoughtful and engaged community to help me along the way.
Thank you for your understanding and for holding me accountable. I promise to do better.
With respect and gratitude,
[Ryan Holiday]
Yikes. Poor form, Ryan.
I think ima unsubscribe for a couple months
Don't forget his background was in digital marketing. Stoics too need to make a living in order to live a life of eudaimonia.
I agree this video is in poor taste. However if stoics have tought me anything. It doesn't matter who writes it , if it has useful knowledge it's still worth reading. In the end of the day this man makes a living of writing books. So can you blame him for trying new ways of selling his books. Everyone who embarks on new ways of doing things must accept looking foolish. So in a way I think this still aligns with Stoicism.
It's weird how we gatekeep Stoicism or any belief and Philosophy as it should only be used for this and this but no you cannot do this with it. I don't think it is wrong for someone to make money writing information that aims to help someone learn and grow. Hell most of what we buy does this. To play devil's advocate a bit here since I just find it funny how people of their own freewill clicked on this video and are upset about it when some even knew that this is potentially aiming to get your attention about his new book. The alternate argument here is people had a feeling it would be clickbait (I find that term terrible since the whole point of ads in general is to get your attention but obviously not in a very misleading way) no real harm was done at all this was such a short amount of time that it really impacted nothing at all. You got shown a book and that was it. Back to my actual thoughts though, you do have to know the audience as a marketer and that titles like this will throw off so many people for so many reasons. This seemed to get people's attention but it did half the work. The aim was get attention to the book. You got attention but that second part I don't know now. I'm sure people will still get it but now some will definitely not get it.. or stay subscribed.
i am sad for this video
Eat something
Wow expected more from you
This is the weirdest humble brag clickbait. Especially from a stoic channel?
Ah yes, the marketing stoic
Cringe clickbait shouldn't be coming from a honourable stoic channel.
Damn, the cuts in this video made me nauseous.
Dude, you know better than most, it's a process. It takes a life time.
This was an advertisement for "Trust Me, I'm Lying", wasn't it 😎
Can I pre-order the audible book?
I find amusing how everything starts pointing fingers out to him about this, criticizing, unsubing!, etc, for this. I don’t know much about the norms or details about stoicism, but I definitely have been fortunate enough to grab some knowledge from Ryan. If this is something he should meditate, “apologize”, “erase” or anything, I’m sure any decision he makes will be on good faith. We all make mistakes, we are people, humans, and we all grow and learn from mistakes. That’s what makes us a good person, give the benefit of the doubt. Cheers everyone.
Great meditation to start the day- true intellectual freedom is the ability to break our own rules and laws that we use to self manage. "Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist."
Don't do this man... Theres still time to delete and time to apologize for this video.
Hope that there will be another "I'm Sorry" video, where you'll feel sorry for real for this video.