Why Korea and China are BETTER than NA and EU | Doublelift
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- I tell you guys why Korea and China are better than us.
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There's documentary video that shows what IG players doing during S8. One footage in that video hit me big time, it was TheShy sitting infront of pc, playing Sion on a dummy. And later the coach of IG told the fans TheShy would spend hours and hours everyday doing this, just to perfect the animation canceling between skill and auto. That was just insane amount of effort they put into this game.
I did this when trying to practice riven auto Q animation cancel for 40 minutes in practice mode and got bored, he did it for hours damn
@@ohmygodlawl on sion too
Damn that's actually pretty monotonous. Maximum I can do in training mode is places where I can dash as Yasuo and EVEN after 3 years I can't do the raptor dash reliably.
@@Valigarmanda Are you using a keybind to let you walk wherever you want without accidentally targeting something? It should be quite easy once you set that up
Can you link this video by chance??
The fact that the term "tryhard" is used as an insult in Western says it all.
Well no. It's used as an excuse for the loser to excuse his/her loss to the opponent not "playing for fun". It's not an insult on the basis of someone spending too much time on league. "No-life" on the other hand could be attributed to that
@@GOTHICforLIFE1 ehm actually 🤓👆
This is why eastern players (that dont become superstars) have shorter careers on average compared to NA/EU. The grindset is real, and if you stop to take a break you might get replaced by someone who doesnt
That also attribute to larger playerbase too. If you had as many players in China, many of these NA pros will grind 24/7 fear of getting replaced.
And this is why they win worlds every year and NA/EU never will
@@EE12345 EU still has a chance tho. They have been in the finals a lot
@@tobiasholding855 EU has a chance lmao. If getting 0-3'd and hoping you get in the right side of the bracket while having a very top heavy league then it's looking gloom and doom.
In SC2 serral managed to stop the Koreans in the bleakest of time and only worked 6 hours and was a complete human being, europe has won MSI being happy, and I truly believe that’s better and I would take it. Europe are chokers for now but if you know anything about them, if they overcome that, they become the goats.
real shit - this isn't just pertaining to league but everything. to be the best you sacrifice a lot, often too much but that is why and how you become the best.
Do you think that is a healthy culture to have? If you sacrifice your life and your health in order to achieve "success" it is never worth it. Nobody has ever laid on their deathbed wishing they had worked harder.
@@beaverones41 yeah make them understand that tho, these pp literally think that by working hard you can achieve "success", I am sorry for there are multiple factors behind that too
@@fcos9704 It's the same in real life yes, working hard will not guarantee you success. All it does is create the false belief that if you don't succeed it must be because you just didn't work hard enough and this results in a lot of mental health problems. Hustle culture is terribly toxic and we need to escape such mindsets if we care about human well-being.
@@beaverones41 ye sure working very hard can be toxic etc especially in school and studying. But if you truly wanna be the best it takes a shit ton of work. Were talking about being the best here not below average or average and to achieve this. Did usain bolt become the best runner in the world by slacking off? No he trained like crazy blood,sweat, and tears. Your really going off topic btw with the 'is it a healthy culture to have?' Like bruh were not talking about that and also, no shit. Just like i said to be the best you also gotta be the best at working.
@@rookeyji5177 Should we put such importance on being the best? Usian Bolt did work very hard but he also had a body that others cannot achieve just from working hard. In other words he had advantages, I am not saying this to put down what he did, Usain Bolt was truly amazing but my point is that the culture becomes extremely toxic and not good for mental health when the view is that anyone can achieve anything if they just work hard enough, that is just not the case.
Working hard is great and all if for the right causes but in general it is not the virtue that you think it is.
I mean Tyler does workout 5 days a week
He's built different
I think his a real big problem 🤣
@@gijuchoi6751 HAHAHAHHAHAHA DUDE BEST COMMENT
5 days a _weak_ more like
And plays 7 days a week
For Tyler 1, physical health is a routine. League is his job that he is prioritizing. Working out for T1 is like waking up and brewing a cup of coffee and taking a shit
Facts. He says he's just built diffrent, but he built himself that way.
exactly, and let's not forget that "maintaining shape" is much easier than getting into shape, so i think he trains just to maintain his health and spam league games all day
It doesn't mean he's super healthy tho, with steroids he take
@@Arejen03 he doesnt take steroids lmao
I love Tyler 1 bro but dont be delu he has nothing to do with Gods like Keria Faker Chovy BDD etc xD
Tyler is just Built Different
Tyler is a quarter Korean
As a eastern player of LOL (Taiwanese) looking at this clip , I have to say DL is splitting pure truth here. Honestly this concept aint just pertains for e-sports but also fits in any other expertises. For me personally i would't grind for league so much becuz we average player play is as a leisure, not a career. I feel sad for eastern players becuz while they were gaining short result they are also generating some irreversible damage to their physical condition.(bare with my poor english, aint my first language)
The physique of Tyler1 is a testament of how tough and determined Tyler1's mindset is, and that is what helps him to get those 4 out of 5 infinity stones of League.
chill out its called roids
Why 4 abd what are those 5
😂
I agree to have the mindset and be focus on your results but health is health
The fact that everyone in the chat is saying stuff like "grind mindset will break your mind and body" is indicative of the mental weakness in NA. THATS why we lose to eastern teams consistently.
idk if it is weakness or just a different set of prios
is that why LEC and LCS have such polarizing performance as well?
did he watch GS vs Beyond&UOL ?
I feel like he’s said this before unless this is an old clip
Spot on
I think Doublelift should consider that you can do vod reviews while running on a treadmill and kill two birds with one stone.
This definitely makes me want to grind League less, and work out more.
Well actually they have coaches for questions like "what am i gonna eat" + "what am i gonna do at the gym today", or well atleast they should do this
Well the typical diet in Korea or China is generally healthier than that of the United States, therefore you don't necessarily need to specifically prioritize eating healthily in those countries.
China is a flip cuz loads of their traditional dish are rich in fat and carb. Sure the daily home meal in china is prolly healthier than Mcdonald meal but obese rate in china cities is like 20% so not that much healthier iguess
Typical diet in Korea sucks. No fruit, almost no vegetables, highest alcohol consumption in the world, not drinking enough water, lots of pork. They do consume way less salt than westerners though. Worst thing here is that being fat is social suicide so lots of people, especially young girls, only eat once a day.
@@DefendTheKnee korean foods actually has a lot of sodium
@@ohmygodlawl You're right, I retract my statement. I thought because they generally don't sprinkle salt they should be consuming way less salt, but their sodium intake is way higher than western countries.
@@DefendTheKnee yea but most Korean orgs are hiring home cooks and restaurant chefs to cook making sure the meals are a little more healthier
So true. East will always be better because they sacrifice and limit their social life and physical activity to perfect their gameplay. Nothing wrong with that. There is more pressure here in the U.S. to be physically fit, have a good social circle, find a spouse/partner, it’s just cultural.
And EUW balances both
Most shocking part of this video is that Doublelift has been going to the gym for 7 years.
How is that shocking?
You can clearly tell, he used to be quite scrawny. Now his chest and shoulders are maybe not impressive, but at least respectable. It's actually the case for many League players like Caps and Jensen also.
Doublelift was a very overweight teenager, his physique now is pretty good and exceptionally so when looked at as a comparison
You know you don't have to become a body builder just because ur going to the gym
Somebody can't possibly look like T1 and not prioritize their health. You don't have to go to the gym for 8 hours, you only have to go for like 2.
You can do with roids, lol
@@user-fz5ff1tj4i clueless. You still need to workout to get big with roids
Asian grinding culture can be compared to a shounen character using his life force to gain an advantage. They will shorten their career but in return they will be better than their western counterparts.
Not only shorten their career... Some of them have also health issues cuz it
someone send to tyler plz and send me the clip
It’s about Competition. NA players can sit on their giant salary not worry about improving or getting benched
"i'm taking a shit i'm thinking about league" will go down as one of my favorite quotes period
Especially after you lose a ranked game. yeah
They also have health check and regular gyms in lck. It is just that they are more passionate about the game and more knowledgable. If you really wanna be great, you have to sacrifice. Plus they are still ao young that after they retire, they can focus on other things cause you usually don't play league when you are near or after your 30. By then when you are successfull, you have earned all the money than an average person who worked 21yrs old to their 50's. Your future is basically secured as long as you use your money wisely.
This "regular gyms thing" is recent. I don't think Madlife had that, him and other OG's.
It;s the ping guys........
I wish I was like that, shit shower and thinking about league
The ranked player base of na is a littler over 1 million while eu and Korea are around 2. China is a much higher number but I haven’t been able to find an exact one. Just having a player base that is double the size of NA will automatically make them have more good players.
China have like 20 servers as big as EUW
Back in 2016, NA player base was equivalent to EU/KR, it became worse along the years and their player base dropped. In the past LCS used to get 150k+ views average. NA was actually a hyped region in the past, mainly due to TSM
That's not true, NA's playerbase is almsot 2m just for ranked, EU is almost 4m and Korea is 4.5m, China numbers are not known but probalty in the 8 digits. League is much bigger than you think.
@@ivailoivanov01 my numbers are old i think, but you get the point. EU and KR having more players than NA will also make them have more good players. and more bad players lol
@@jackhassett2826 u sure? But NA has so many imports that the rest should be good then no?
Tyler1 was buff before league addiction. I imagine his cardio isn’t great but it’s not like his lifts would drop from playing as long as he still goes
More like he drops the steroids
This is the same guy that said Korea would always be one year behind the rest of the world.
It’s in the Asian blood
Wunder could easily stomp NA without even playing the game.
He used to stomp in eu without playing the game so what's ur point ?
He used to stomp everyone without playing the game.
Now he is stomped by everyone, and still without playing :/
@@hacimstar130 He can't anymore, that's why he should go to NA.
What i learned, from competitive games, is yea you have to be a actual freak and never do anything else, i play apex legends and league thats it the only two games, people go doesnt that get boring?
No because im winning, im enjoying it and its fun lmao yea i said it.
Summary
DL said LoL isnt the priority and basically called lpl and lck nolifes/tryhards...
Some people are built different..
1:19 I think this encapsulates his point perfectly . that's #real
Way more than 2%. You probably weren’t working out or eating right
im pretty lpl players do this more often than lck. korean players are more focused on their mentality rather than perfecting every skills. DWG Kia do their research before playing the match or the series hence that's why they are on another level of macro compared to other teams
If Bjergsen, Caps, DL, Rekkles played in LCK or LPL they would’ve been just as good as the best players
Jankos could’ve been the best player in the world in 2019 if he played in lpl for the whole year
Caps and Perkz only. They're the two western GOATs in terms of raw mechanical skills and talent.
@@sajivdoley6949 you mean the perkz that hasn't even looked like the best mid in NA a lot of his time in NA?
@@sajivdoley6949 raw mechanical skill and talent. Sorry but that title belongs to Mr Earl
@@sajivdoley6949 Jankos is the reason G2 beat SKT, Caps Caps and Perkz weren’t top 3 in their role
Even though Perkz is the EU goat he has the worst mechanics among all these players
Caps is probably the best mechanical western player followed by DL then Bjergsen then Rekkles but it means nothing
Mechanics are jot that important the 2 least mechanical players in G2 were the 2 most important (Jankos and Perkz)
DL has been in the top 20 players list in 2016 to 2019 when rekkles has only been in the 2014 one
Jankos is criminally underrated, he is top 5 greatest jungle of all time after bengi, score, peanut, ambition
I can name 10 mid laners greater than Perkz and caps
Maybe but we can only imagine. Since it is still just an if. Reality is that jankos isnt the best player in world 2019 and he didnt play in lpl. Also its kinda obvious ya know? Like everybody knows the advantage lpl and lck has when it comes to practice. Thats like saying 'faker isnt the best player of all time if he didnt win 3 worlds' like yes? But the reality is that faker did win 3 worlds lol.
Dont get people who make these weird dream scenarios
After the asian games we found out its only the Koreans, Chinese without imports are at best FNC. I'm sure even G2 can beat their top teams. 60/40. KR > EU > CHN > US
going to the gym for 7 years, I can't see it at all ??!!!
Asians are so good at strategy/more mentally driven cooperative games while Westerners including RU are very good at tactical shooter and instinct based games. Atleast that was I observed in their respective esports.
Very true, i don't think i've ever heard of a team out of Asia that got even remotely close to winning a CSGO major.
능숙한것과 능숙하지 않은것을 인종에 따라 구별하는것은 의미가 없습니다. 예를 들어줄게요. 한국인들이 lol이전에 스타크래프트와 같은 전략 시뮬레이션이 한국에서 활발했을 때 세계를 제패했었습니다. 그러나 FPS게임은 크게 성과를 내지 못했어요. 그 때 서양사람들이 말하길 '한국인은 전략게임에 능숙하지만 fps게임은 소질이 없다.' 라고 단정지었습니다. 그러나 한국 게임시장에 오버워치가 인기가 많아짐과 동시에 모든 오버워치 세계대회를 휩쓸었습니다. pubg도 마찬가지에요. 인종에 따라 소질이 있고 없다고 단정짓는건 스스로 한계를 정해놓는 것이기 때문에 더 나은 성과를 기대할 수 없습니다. 중요한건 어떤 게임이든 그 게임에 얼마만큼 몰두할 수 있는지, 그리고 그 인프라가 조성되어 있는지.. 그게 가장 중요합니다
meh, to say american teams prioritize too much on working out is hilarious, NA players just want to get rich and have a streaming career at the end of it, Kr and LPL and tons of EU players actually believe they can win worlds and be one of the best, it's priorities, NA teams have known for a while about the skill gap and rather than try to close that gap naturally, they get imports and players focus on streaming and getting endorsement deals
I think Doublelift is right about the importance of a tryhard mindset and wrong about that of a healthy lifestyle
Why is he talking aboout physical health when it's all about mental health?
Did we even watch the same video, he literally started by talking about how NA teams place a priority on physical health as a means to better mental performance
T1 streams as a job dont Get it twisted!
He also plays countless hours off stream lol what's your point
@@rikaorimoto8674 im talking about streaming if u cant read, and you're f***king dense
Its esport not game
Even faker exercises guys...so take care of yourselves.
I kinda disagree with DL here, you can still play a lot of league while being healthy, you can still play like 8 to 10 hrs a day and get enough rest and exercise if you manage your time better and eat healthy diet.
@@nd7231 yess thats what im saying, its like doing any other profession especially athletes, practice makes perfect.
1:55 Bro, it steroids.
When you use steroids, you're not a homo sapien anymore. That's how OP steroids are.
Pewdiepie made a nice video (every fitness celebrity influencer is lying to you..)
I will not watch or respect t1 before he tell his audience about his juice-use.
Its just a silly (shitty) video game, and we aren't fooling ourselves otherwise.
NA EU is easy bruh
in my own server i got hardstuck on plat 4
but on my NA account i got diamond
U all talking how healthy T1 lifestyle is, and u don't take into account steroids this guy takes you don't get stuff like that natural 😂. Wait it out his health problems in later life.
Talk for na not for eu lmao
We overthink it. They are better. Too much pressure on our players. NA will win worlds on an off year with bad eastern teams and then NA will win like 3 out of the next 5 because no more pressure. Its a real thing even in sports. The metaphorical monkey off their back
when ???win
Thats not the reason, totally disagree. I have experienced NA since 2010! The problem in NA is mentality and psychology. Such as easy to give up, grieving for mistakes instead of fixing them, and toxic!
you think NA is toxic, korean server players are being paid to grief other ppls games
You mean korea *
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This is not only untrue but grossly irresponsible. You can absolutely lead a healthy life while being competitive. They don't cancel out each other. If anything, a true competitor will strive for that extra "2%." Being unhealthy makes you SO much worse at video games. There's a lot of things holding NA back, but this is not one of them
Like going to the gym for 1hour and 30 mins wont hold you back but over time it can make you look fit asf. Working out is not a big time commitment each day
@@Icelandic_hero Thats 1 hour and 30 minutes that you lose every single week. That shit would stack up fast. It's no surprise that being healthy isn't a bigger buff than practicing, that should be obvious just from common sense.
@@comboanimations1226 no it doesn't stack up. you still have 22.5 hours, even if you subtract 15.5 hours for sleep and recreation, that's still 8 hours you're giving to practice. it's way more than enough.
@@comboanimations1226 its 1 hour and 30 minutes per day 4-5 times a week so yeah it seems like a lot but you realize these korean pros sleep like 5, 6, 7 hours and tyler1 works out 5-6 times a week witch more games than 99.999% of players each day. I don't know which is better for pros of course but I'm saying people that havent worked out dont know how easy it is to look great while doing what you love
@@Icelandic_hero I understand that working out is hard, takes time and is good for the majority of people playing league. what i simply saying is that for competitive league, 1.5 hours a day that you're missing while the Korean players are working results in korean players being more skilled because of their hard work.
also NA are delusional thinking they are great in their shit region
Korea and China are better than NA and EU but not OCE lol ocegang ocegang ocegang
Because they have no life and they can play all day
I think the real reason why asians are better in league is because of genes just like how Eu dominate Football and NA dominate Basketball because if you don't have talent even if you grind 20hrs a day you will still not become one of the best just look hardstuck players they have more games compared to pros but they still can't reach master up
Genetics talk is why you’re hardstuck
@@Cafetero_ but I'm not hardstuck tho I don't even play league now and I'm sure you did not even reach my peak rank in league
@@tempoejqkrjrjek2972 Hes just triggered because you suggested that immutable characteristics might give a competitive advantage to someone in some way. Even though he wouldn't bat an eye if you hadn't talked about league and only brought up the amount of black people in the NBA/NFL.
From how you prhased this you don't have a good understanding of genetics at all.
In general, I would recommend staying away from the pattern of observing a trend and saying "oh it's probably genes" unless talking about phenotype. Genetics (especially around behavior) are incredibly complicated lmao.
And the 'black people' who dominate running for instance often have ancestral ties to West Africa meaning that their potential advantage predates modern conceptions of race. My point being that you're speaking about race when you really mean genetics and the two concepts are sometimes correlated but not necessarily so.
A Russian team won the TI in dota this year btw.
And yet EU is always up there Top 4 worlds….
All it matters is the championship tho, top4 means nothing for Asians
even the top 2 last year was already forgotten ,,,
@@fvjxznvueaepd8u Top 2 doesn't mean anything either if you're getting swept
And all this shit being under the harsh and strict rules of the German work regulations. Doublelift just stating bullshit here, it’s nothing to do with sacrificing health and all that shit, yes, Asians do heavily commit on the grind that often than not come with consequences such as Uzi but if EU can do top2 2 times in 5 years while being even more regulated on working hours and health control by the German government, then so can NA.
No one really cares about Top 4 or Top 2 . The only thing that matters here (at least for Asian teams) is the Summoner's Cup .
This is just false
Lol that’s bullshit I’ve been to lck esports home buildings and they have dedicated gyms and at least one hour in their schedule make excuses for NA sir. :)
who said KR better than EU ? just DK better than EU teams and it was just after their super team before that they were meh, EU teams been crushing all KR teams past 3 years
cope harder
*G2 (not other EU teams)has been crushing Korean teams the past 3 years. Now that they are irrelevant, what would happen..? monkaHmm
Yeah eu teams have been winning worlds unlike kr
@@LukusGames G2 solo'd korea for 2 whole years wdym "cope harder" LMFAO
yeah g2 won all world championship since season 1 what abot koreayuck ? what have they achieved these past 10 years lol even a g2 academy can destroy all asian nerds who never won a single international competition
korea + NA > chinese. You cannot say chinese are good at LoL when they always had at least 1-3 koreans in their team lmfao