Yo Pauli you should do a breakdown of body types and how that plays into a fighters style example Tyson was stocky and fought on the inside, and maybe how they fight against type like Chris Byrd stoky yet fought on the outside
@@te340 Yeah because the Roberto Duran was a bad comparison because at lightweight he had a long range attack.. Once he started moving up then he started to fight more on the inside.. Because he started to give up height and reach to most opponents.
I love a boxer like Mayweather because he mastered all styles. People don't realize how good of an inside fighter he was too, catching and shooting inside.
Fantastic video Paulie. While I agree that casual fans tend to understand swarmers more, I actually think hardcore fans tend to understand boxers more than intelligent pressure fighters. Most hardcore fans don't have a deep technical understanding, so whilst they appreciate that a pure boxer is a beautiful thing, they don't always understand what a Duran, Chavez, Toney, etc is doing on the inside. Whereas a pull counter is more "obvious" than shoulder positioning in a clinch, for example. At least that's the case in my observational experience.
Another style is the spoiler. Their specialty is frustrating their opponent, i.e. setting traps, presenting a false target, fighting in a broken rhythm, holding and hitting, timing headbutts to look accidental, transitioning from the outside to a sudden clinch very well, etc.
This such a good breakdown Pauli. This is what makes you a great commentator. This is why I subbed. I don't agree on everything you say but most time I do.
nice breakdown, Paulie! You're one of my favorite commentators. Could you also do a breakdown of the awkward style? How would the Drunken Master do versus a Drunken McGregor?
Followed your entire career my bro. You're one of my all time favorite fighters! Speaking of the jab you had 1 of the best of your era without question...you and Mayweather.
I like the boxer who thinks and can adapt to the situation he is in inside that squared circle ⭕️ ,Andre Ward was a favourite of mine when he was fighting. Hit and don’t get hit the art of boxing.
Love the video Paulie. Just have a couple things I want to interject on. 1st off, I think that people need to take into mind the 2 stages of Mayweathers career when defining his style. There is the “pretty boy” stage from 130-140 lbs. People forget that this was his more natural weight range. In these divisions Mayweather had a very high KO % and definitely wanted to end fights. He was much more aggressive though he did use smart boxing still but I would very much classify him as a boxer puncher at this stage. Just watch what he did to the much taller Diego Corrales at this size. Then there was the “Money” stage where he was fighting men naturally 2 divisions bigger than him, 147-154 lbs. Due to fighting much bigger guys, and hand problems; Mayweather relied much more on the slick fighting you talked about and that most people think about him. However, the notion of him being a runner is plain casual fan BS. Just because he made people Miss didn’t mean he was running. In fact he did very little of that as he was not one to waste movement. He moved at the right times. Also I would like to point out just how rough and tough he actually was. Just watch his use of forearms and physical strength and you can count on 1 finger the amount of times he was ever wobbled in a fight (Mosley) which he went on to dominate after. I also liked your opinion of Cotto. Cotto was best when cutting off the ring and pressuring guys but was also a very good boxer when matched against stronger fighters. Just look at his fights against Margarito, Canelo, Mayorga to name a few. In fact there was a period in time where he actually got a little too cute and tried to box too much and just wasn’t the same fighter until Freddie Roach got him back to being a tactical pressure fighter. Great video as always!
Agree with the definitions of outside fighter vs runner. I've always described it as: An outside fighter is looking to stay outside your range but within his, while runner is staying outside anybodys range -- essentially spoiling and stalling. Of course, most outside fighters indulge in a little tactical "running" from time to time, it being the dark art associated with their style - just as a pressure fighter might scatter in a few borderline shots or bully a little with the head just to disrupt your composure or a mauler/jab and grabber may hold and hit when they can get away with it and so on. I think much of the reason yell about "runners" as much as they do is that this cynical tactic is far less punished by referees than the others. We almost never see outside fighters get warnings for running, unless they take it to near comedy levels - and it should probably receive a similar amount of attention from referees as other "fouls" and rule bending strats.
Never understood why these counter punchers don’t learn to throw jabs….it’s perfect for your style. If you can’t find the head jab the body, arms, whatever.
Me and Paulie got the same styles in our mind. “Runner” is the fourth style he mentioned but that’s tongue n cheek. There’s 3 styles, Boxer, Boxer-Puncher (hybrid style that some fighters lean more to one than the other), and Brawler (aka fighter) which Paulie refers to here as Banger/Swarmer. Manny Pacquiao was a Brawler. An aggressive pressure fighting Brawler. Prime Mike (80s Mike) was an aggressive counterpunching pressure fighter. 90s Mike was an aggressive pressure fighting Brawler. Pretty Boy Floyd was a complete fighter. Any range, any style, any technique, and any punch. He did it all. Money May was a counterpunching Boxer. Deontay Wilder is a Brawler. But the problem is his team never figured it out and they kept trying to force him into a Boxer role. They should train him to be a high level Brawler.
That’s interesting I wonder how wilder would have done as a brawler…I think he would be too sloppy and get jabbed and countered easily…plus with his frame/size I think it’s almost too hard to be a brawler. I think the best wilder we ever saw was in his last fight in which he got KOed…
@@TheMoistBanana The best Wilder we’ve seen is his fights before the first Ortiz. Where he actually did some high level things in the ring, consistently. He wasn’t so focused on knocking out the opponent in one punch. He was trying to win rounds, and he won them. For reference, going back n watching you’ll see him throwing a combination then placing his lead hand on the opponents shoulder to control them before turning them or stepping laterally. He did that consistently. It wasn’t a fluke. After Ortiz 1 there was a clear shift in his tactics where he was just focused on getting the ko in a single punch. As for your Brawler question. Brawlers are the least skilled of the three styles. Like Paulie said there’s a method to their madness of course (Because strategy and skill is always involved) however they are stylistically the least skilled as they aren’t in there to BOX. The sports scoring criteria and rules are skewed towards Boxers, naturally. Brawlers get by on the other things and loopholes like stopping an opponent or winning a round because of a knockdown, etc. That’s true modus operandi. We see Wilder is clearly a Brawler. In the heat of the moment it’s always his reaction to brawl. Except because he hasn’t been trained for it, he miscalculates key factors like how tall he is, how long his arms are, foot position, distance from opponent… So what he ends up doing (which we see) is throwing off balanced, awkward arm punches, that don’t hurt the opponent, are easily avoidable, and leave him vulnerable to being countered. Again this is because his team consistently try to force him into a Boxer role. He started the sport at nearly 20yrs old. That won’t work. Brawling is much more natural to him. Just like it is to most of us. The focus for Wilder should be on throwing combinations, varying types of punches instead of just the jab (a Boxers bread n butter), Fighting in the pocket, and using lateral movement to get out of the way. He consistently goes straight back which is a problem for several reasons. Under this style, he’d still be a devastating knockout artist but now he’d have more opportunity to confuse, beat on opponents defense, and mentally pressure opposition. The goal should be for him to outwork opponents to win rounds rather than to outbox them. He doesn’t have the finesse.
Unfortunately most "Boxers only" dont have a killer instinct, most of the time they fight to not lose. If Boxing was run by that style.Boxing would be very boring to the casual fan.
The guy that is hard to put into a category is Thomas Hearns, because he had all the tools, and the ability to box.. But in most cases that was not his mentality. He was not a brawler, more of stalker, wanting you at the end of the punches.. I know the Hagler fight was an all out brawl...
@@jehdee22 reverse it he a puncher boxer.. He did not like the Motor City Cobra but he really came out trying to get you out there... Duran, (legend) Cuevas who was coming off 11 straight title defenses and went at both of them...
@@signalhilltv5237 i can't argue with you bro..i respect your point of view....I've never heard the term punched boxer used but i can't say you're wrong Good post bro and I stand corrected 🥊🥊
@@jehdee22 When you get a chance if you want to see a welterweight that had one of the best chin's ever and power in both hands, people did not want to fight Ike Quartey until he broke down in the second half of their fight.. Jose Luis Lopez....
@@signalhilltv5237 Quartey was a beast my bro....i follwed his entire career from when he was not known to his victory over Oscar in which he was robbed...mad respect to Ike and I'm not talking Tina's Ike 🥊😂👍
Magic Man is still one of the best veterans ever that I got to see in action. He ain’t a punk didn’t dodge or cherry pick. He got robbed even if just rounds vs Broner, I’m from Cincinnati and we all hate AB he’s a man child and will be broke and doing 2020s versions of the 90s Collect Call commercials soon enough.
Andre Ward had THE most boring style in the history of boxing. Boxing is about entertainment, and he was the worst. Anthony Joshua has the balance of puncher and boxer to make exciting fights.
I think Floyd had a much harder punch than he gets credit for. I think he could seriously crack. But I think he liked making guys look like novices in front of him. I just recently re-watched his fight with Canelo, and the guy that tanked thru the power shots of GGG, got hit hard enough by Floyd that he stopped trying to bully and rough Mayweather up. Mayweather was an expert at making guys miss and cracking them with stinging counters.
Yo Pauli you should do a breakdown of body types and how that plays into a fighters style example Tyson was stocky and fought on the inside, and maybe how they fight against type like Chris Byrd stoky yet fought on the outside
Type don’t matter. Look at skinny Tito Trinidad or a Roberto Duran
depends on ur dimemsions
@@te340 Yeah because the Roberto Duran was a bad comparison because at lightweight he had a long range attack.. Once he started moving up then he started to fight more on the inside.. Because he started to give up height and reach to most opponents.
@@signalhilltv5237 I’d have to disagree. Duran mauled guys at the lighter weight as well. Look at his fight against Ken Buchanan and Ray Leonard
U wanna know more about dudes body types? U call yourself big man.... Log off sus ibacca
9:55 nobody was thinking of Chavez Jr.
I thought the same thing 🤣
This was an excellent breakdown of the styles of boxing! Love the channel, Champ!
You should do an all time P4P lists by Style!
That’s stupid
I love a boxer like Mayweather because he mastered all styles. People don't realize how good of an inside fighter he was too, catching and shooting inside.
Very true
Because they're too jealous. Hating the fact he beat their favourite fighter.
Goat.
Floyd was a complete fighter.
Yep, Floyd borrowed a lot from Duran.
I’m very glad to see Paulie has sent those work experience kids back to their high school.
It was very good of him giving them that experience though.
Fantastic video Paulie. While I agree that casual fans tend to understand swarmers more, I actually think hardcore fans tend to understand boxers more than intelligent pressure fighters. Most hardcore fans don't have a deep technical understanding, so whilst they appreciate that a pure boxer is a beautiful thing, they don't always understand what a Duran, Chavez, Toney, etc is doing on the inside. Whereas a pull counter is more "obvious" than shoulder positioning in a clinch, for example. At least that's the case in my observational experience.
Great vid Paulie. Appreciate the honesty and compliments to other fighters.
There was a point of my life where I didn't appreciate the sweet Science. I didn't understand. Now that I'm older and I APPRECIATE and love it
Another style is the spoiler. Their specialty is frustrating their opponent, i.e. setting traps, presenting a false target, fighting in a broken rhythm, holding and hitting, timing headbutts to look accidental, transitioning from the outside to a sudden clinch very well, etc.
This such a good breakdown Pauli. This is what makes you a great commentator. This is why I subbed.
I don't agree on everything you say but most time I do.
I agree 💯 % wit ya bro!
From us hardcores, it has to be a tip of the hat to him. Because we are "educated boxing fans"¡!
He’s really enjoyable to watch when he’s talking Boxing. It’s when he gets into his racial views that makes him difficult and foolish.
Pauly on point again. As usual.
Appreciate ya bro.
Nice vid. I do think Dempsey was much more technical than given credit for. Lots of footwork and jabbing for the time
nice breakdown, Paulie! You're one of my favorite commentators. Could you also do a breakdown of the awkward style? How would the Drunken Master do versus a Drunken McGregor?
Followed your entire career my bro. You're one of my all time favorite fighters! Speaking of the jab you had 1 of the best of your era without question...you and Mayweather.
Pretty boy was a boxer puncher
Money Mayweather was the pure boxer
^ somebody knows their Boxing
@@ritzkola2302 thank you sir
Awesome vid.. ur da man Paulie!
I like the boxer who thinks and can adapt to the situation he is in inside that squared circle ⭕️ ,Andre Ward was a favourite of mine when he was fighting. Hit and don’t get hit the art of boxing.
Ward was brilliant with that.
Terence Crawford is that guy in this era
I like the slick sneaky fast style, aka Camacho, also the slick boxing style ala Whitaker
I'd consider mayweather a complete fighter. A boxer puncher is a jack of all trades but a master of none. A complete fighter can do it all.
Pretty boy was the complete fighter, money may was the boxer
no he can't do everything. He can't walk someone down and can't be a pressure fighter
@@naeemislam1105 you must know Floyd for his last 10 fights lol
@@naeemislam1105 Prime Floyd was a complete fighter.
Wow yes! Thank you for this Paulie!
This was a great video!!
Love the video Paulie. Just have a couple things I want to interject on. 1st off, I think that people need to take into mind the 2 stages of Mayweathers career when defining his style. There is the “pretty boy” stage from 130-140 lbs. People forget that this was his more natural weight range. In these divisions Mayweather had a very high KO % and definitely wanted to end fights. He was much more aggressive though he did use smart boxing still but I would very much classify him as a boxer puncher at this stage. Just watch what he did to the much taller Diego Corrales at this size. Then there was the “Money” stage where he was fighting men naturally 2 divisions bigger than him, 147-154 lbs. Due to fighting much bigger guys, and hand problems; Mayweather relied much more on the slick fighting you talked about and that most people think about him. However, the notion of him being a runner is plain casual fan BS. Just because he made people Miss didn’t mean he was running. In fact he did very little of that as he was not one to waste movement. He moved at the right times. Also I would like to point out just how rough and tough he actually was. Just watch his use of forearms and physical strength and you can count on 1 finger the amount of times he was ever wobbled in a fight (Mosley) which he went on to dominate after.
I also liked your opinion of Cotto. Cotto was best when cutting off the ring and pressuring guys but was also a very good boxer when matched against stronger fighters. Just look at his fights against Margarito, Canelo, Mayorga to name a few. In fact there was a period in time where he actually got a little too cute and tried to box too much and just wasn’t the same fighter until Freddie Roach got him back to being a tactical pressure fighter.
Great video as always!
love your take on Mayweather and the 2 stages of his career, I feel a lot of his attributes are overlooked.
Yes, some people don't get the weight difference
Awesome video
great breakdown 💯
Knock outss and aggression is a crowd favorite.. come from behind also
Paulie. What style would you put Bivol on?
Great video! So is Shawn Porter a swarmer? What about Mike Tyson's style?
Floyd not a boxer, he is a technician!
Technician- An expert in the practical application of a science.
Gerald McClellan has my favorite style
Beautiful style
Agreed. G-Man was a monster boxer puncher.
Very good talk Paulie
What does Tank classify as
Talented boxer-punchers make great fights with pure boxers, swarmers, and fellow boxer-punchers.
Does the app work in uk???
Can you do a video on how to make weight and how to know what weight class is good for you
Agree with the definitions of outside fighter vs runner. I've always described it as: An outside fighter is looking to stay outside your range but within his, while runner is staying outside anybodys range -- essentially spoiling and stalling. Of course, most outside fighters indulge in a little tactical "running" from time to time, it being the dark art associated with their style - just as a pressure fighter might scatter in a few borderline shots or bully a little with the head just to disrupt your composure or a mauler/jab and grabber may hold and hit when they can get away with it and so on. I think much of the reason yell about "runners" as much as they do is that this cynical tactic is far less punished by referees than the others. We almost never see outside fighters get warnings for running, unless they take it to near comedy levels - and it should probably receive a similar amount of attention from referees as other "fouls" and rule bending strats.
You basically can make a video game off Paulie's style breakdown!
Classic 👊
Never understood why these counter punchers don’t learn to throw jabs….it’s perfect for your style. If you can’t find the head jab the body, arms, whatever.
My favorite are boxer punchers like boots ennis or sometimes Spence. Keyshawn Davis his last fight I really loved how he fought also.
Paulie, PLEASE tell us how you would classify Michael Nunn or James Tony???
Btw Boxer-Puncher ALL day!
Me and Paulie got the same styles in our mind. “Runner” is the fourth style he mentioned but that’s tongue n cheek. There’s 3 styles, Boxer, Boxer-Puncher (hybrid style that some fighters lean more to one than the other), and Brawler (aka fighter) which Paulie refers to here as Banger/Swarmer.
Manny Pacquiao was a Brawler. An aggressive pressure fighting Brawler.
Prime Mike (80s Mike) was an aggressive counterpunching pressure fighter. 90s Mike was an aggressive pressure fighting Brawler.
Pretty Boy Floyd was a complete fighter. Any range, any style, any technique, and any punch. He did it all.
Money May was a counterpunching Boxer.
Deontay Wilder is a Brawler. But the problem is his team never figured it out and they kept trying to force him into a Boxer role. They should train him to be a high level Brawler.
That’s interesting I wonder how wilder would have done as a brawler…I think he would be too sloppy and get jabbed and countered easily…plus with his frame/size I think it’s almost too hard to be a brawler. I think the best wilder we ever saw was in his last fight in which he got KOed…
@@TheMoistBanana The best Wilder we’ve seen is his fights before the first Ortiz. Where he actually did some high level things in the ring, consistently. He wasn’t so focused on knocking out the opponent in one punch. He was trying to win rounds, and he won them. For reference, going back n watching you’ll see him throwing a combination then placing his lead hand on the opponents shoulder to control them before turning them or stepping laterally. He did that consistently. It wasn’t a fluke. After Ortiz 1 there was a clear shift in his tactics where he was just focused on getting the ko in a single punch.
As for your Brawler question. Brawlers are the least skilled of the three styles. Like Paulie said there’s a method to their madness of course (Because strategy and skill is always involved) however they are stylistically the least skilled as they aren’t in there to BOX. The sports scoring criteria and rules are skewed towards Boxers, naturally. Brawlers get by on the other things and loopholes like stopping an opponent or winning a round because of a knockdown, etc. That’s true modus operandi. We see Wilder is clearly a Brawler. In the heat of the moment it’s always his reaction to brawl. Except because he hasn’t been trained for it, he miscalculates key factors like how tall he is, how long his arms are, foot position, distance from opponent… So what he ends up doing (which we see) is throwing off balanced, awkward arm punches, that don’t hurt the opponent, are easily avoidable, and leave him vulnerable to being countered.
Again this is because his team consistently try to force him into a Boxer role. He started the sport at nearly 20yrs old. That won’t work. Brawling is much more natural to him. Just like it is to most of us.
The focus for Wilder should be on throwing combinations, varying types of punches instead of just the jab (a Boxers bread n butter), Fighting in the pocket, and using lateral movement to get out of the way. He consistently goes straight back which is a problem for several reasons. Under this style, he’d still be a devastating knockout artist but now he’d have more opportunity to confuse, beat on opponents defense, and mentally pressure opposition. The goal should be for him to outwork opponents to win rounds rather than to outbox them. He doesn’t have the finesse.
You got to do a PART-2, how about Shawn Porter and Manny.
Swarmers with a variety of good jabs.
I like Paulie's videos before I watch them. 😆 lol
Mayweather is the art boxing and adapts to different fighters and issue a lot casual forget pretty Floyd before hands issues
Is edwin valero consider a swarmer?
definitely swarmer his punches were harder than middleweights .why even move around
Spoilers were the hardest one to spar with. Slickster black fighters. Swarkers are easier to find but pain when they connect.
I couldn't of Said it Better,for the kids.
That app better not be glitchy.
I prefer punchers, they're more fun to watch my all time favorite Mike Tyson. Chavez was fun to watch too.
Chavez was a boxer-puncher
I like outboxers and boxer punchers ,,,,I don’t like slugging
I think I like the boxer puncher style.
Paulie you forgot to tell us what known pro boxers were runners?
I assume a slugger is a type of swarmer in this breakdown?
Unfortunately most "Boxers only" dont have a killer instinct, most of the time they fight to not lose. If Boxing was run by that style.Boxing would be very boring to the casual fan.
They fight not to lose? Nah they fight to win. Boxing is scored by round.
Seems like Mayweather did pretty ok with the casual fan... so did Ali for that matter.
@@Demarcointuit yup
The guy that is hard to put into a category is Thomas Hearns, because he had all the tools, and the ability to box.. But in most cases that was not his mentality. He was not a brawler, more of stalker, wanting you at the end of the punches.. I know the Hagler fight was an all out brawl...
Hearns is known as a boxer puncher.
@@jehdee22 reverse it he a puncher boxer.. He did not like the Motor City Cobra but he really came out trying to get you out there... Duran, (legend) Cuevas who was coming off 11 straight title defenses and went at both of them...
@@signalhilltv5237 i can't argue with you bro..i respect your point of view....I've never heard the term punched boxer used but i can't say you're wrong
Good post bro and I stand corrected
🥊🥊
@@jehdee22 When you get a chance if you want to see a welterweight that had one of the best chin's ever and power in both hands, people did not want to fight Ike Quartey until he broke down in the second half of their fight.. Jose Luis Lopez....
@@signalhilltv5237 Quartey was a beast my bro....i follwed his entire career from when he was not known to his victory over Oscar in which he was robbed...mad respect to Ike and I'm not talking Tina's Ike 🥊😂👍
Magic Man is still one of the best veterans ever that I got to see in action. He ain’t a punk didn’t dodge or cherry pick. He got robbed even if just rounds vs Broner, I’m from Cincinnati and we all hate AB he’s a man child and will be broke and doing 2020s versions of the 90s Collect Call commercials soon enough.
Salido was a swarmer Loma was confused and got whooped
Was Naseem Hamed a boxer, a puncher, a swarmer or a runner? Or was he all of these things?
A Boxer-puncher
Paulie loves cotto 😝😝
Remember when Paulie put that gold body paint on when he fought Cotto's brother 😁
@@nas8326 I don’t remember that
He said years ago at the end of the fight with Cotto he knew he'd fought a great fighter
@@BruteStrength99 thats why I respect this podcast he keeps it too real
1st 4 mins or so…for visual execution of this, go watch Bivol Vs Canelo (p.s I hope the guys been paid his purse by now) ✌🏻
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Boxer infighter
He forgot broner lol
Bendiciones hermosa Celina que Dios te cuidee donde quiera que verwohntt.online encantan tus videos.
Damn Paulie all those double negative sheesh.
Andre Ward had THE most boring style in the history of boxing. Boxing is about entertainment, and he was the worst. Anthony Joshua has the balance of puncher and boxer to make exciting fights.
Nah
I think Floyd had a much harder punch than he gets credit for. I think he could seriously crack. But I think he liked making guys look like novices in front of him. I just recently re-watched his fight with Canelo, and the guy that tanked thru the power shots of GGG, got hit hard enough by Floyd that he stopped trying to bully and rough Mayweather up. Mayweather was an expert at making guys miss and cracking them with stinging counters.
Floyd ducked khan
Who khan beat?
Conor mcgregor beat you up in sparring bro
stfu UFC has the footage just lay it out there you pu$$ies.keep supporting this literal Loser