It's weird how when you prosecute someone it says "the prosecutor and defendant may state their cases", but the decision was already made. I feel like the target should have one last chance to defend themself and let the pros change their mind and inno
I mean Prosecutor is a very heavy risk reward. And outing yourself just to inno them would be very dangerous to Pros (then again same as hanging a townie). Maybe a once per game button that lets you inno and keep your prosecution charge? That way you can eject out of mislynches yet don't hold the trials hostage.
Thats a good idea, lets the pros confirm themselves without the risk of lynching a townie, drawback being that it uses a charge so that its a balanced trade.
@@davidhower7095 Yeah, I think that's a smart balancing move, to be honest. Allow the defendant to plead their case to the Prosecutor. If the prosecutor believes them, they can choose to judge them as innocent, but still losing a charge. I still think that doing this should automatically use up the day, however.
@@quince5892 I think that Prosecution should also automatically end the day even if the person returns to play. You're revealed, and you used up a charge. Be careful with your next charge, assuming you remain alive by that night.
its crazy how the apocalypses have all these world ending power but still falls to the legal system (pest is making a huge fuss in the middle of the night, time to hang)
At the end there, I can just imagine Pipe walking over to William and asking "Are you alive?" To a perfectly alive person and William just turns and looks at Pipe mad. "Do I look dead to you?"
@@FalconAggie Yeah, Berserker/War is Support. It's there to help the other ones by speeding up Soul Collector's transformation and killing people with bread once Baker transforms to make it an easy majority. Plus, it forces people to stay home once it has Rampage, making finding the horsemen a guessing game more than anything. Plaguebearer is Support as well, by tracking infections early game, then supporting the same way as War once it transforms.
This video really shows why pest's upcoming rework is so badly needed lmao - transformed pest left alone for like 3 days because it's the least threatening evil
The Apoc Hierarchy at work. It is steep and very extreme. Death is King, the most scary. When they show up panic mode occurs. Plus Soul Collector is quite easy to achieve their goal with. Takes 3-6 days to transform and 7 to win. Famine is Second, not quite as scary as Death, but still can ravage the Town. Issue is Baker is hell trying to achieve the goal with. Which I feel really undermines Famine's usefulness. Takes at minimum 3 days, but you can also go the entire game not transforming. And then another 3 days to win. 6 to Never. No other Apoc has that limitation. War is Third, but so far below Death and Famine. When War appears it's like a Neutral Killing. No one really cares. The new buff did wonders, because losing 2 per night is terrifying end game. Not much to say on War. Berserker does its job of being an Apoc Killing that thins the herd. Not special, not OP, not weak. Just average. Pestilence. The loser. They added super epic overpowered game destroying Apoc roles, gave the one night killing Apoc role the ability to kill from Night 2. And then Pest has to infect FOURTEEN PLAYERS and then kill ONE AT A TIME. It is worse than Arso. At least Arso can blow the top whenever. Pest is strangeholded. And by the time they transform, which can take 1-14 days, they have to kill 1 at a time. Baker at least is RNGesus, get a good lucky game and you're set. But Pest? Not even a threat.
I feel Pest should be more threatening while still maintaining its uniqueness. We already have Apoc Game Over, Apoc Hex Bomb, Apoc Killing. Pest should be Apoc Support. Once Plaguebearer becomes Pest, make all the Infected unable to use their abilities. Can't Pros, can't shoot, can't Jail, can't invest, can't kill.
15:05 I’ve seen townies throw wins in this scenario by visiting lmao, I was pest and I told everyone to stay home (3 town and me, only 1 of the other townies could visit), and I was going to try and mislynch the Psy the next day, but psy visited my target and died giving me the win anyway xd
My greatest gratitude to Mr. Pipetron for getting a RARE achievement in Town of Salem 2. (this video was insane I just wanted to join this comment section thingy for once bc I’m kinda early lol, that voodoo master had karma hit him like a truck and at the end the way you chose ur pros and votes, it was the best way possible for town to win but that death was unexpected but also not bc that coroner felt fake as hell from the start)
Thank you porous tongue for Getting a RARE Achievement in Town of Salem 2 by prosecuting your local Cosmic Horse-Riding Representative of the Fundamental Concept of Death.
I knew 10 was fake because his Coroner will was completely wrong. Coroner rework shows the EXACT role that kills a target and then you can permanently hunt for that role while searching people at night. I'm surprised you didn't notice that, Pipe!
Ah, perfect. It’s 4 AM for me and I’ve been struggling to fall asleep. Pipton coming to the rescue with some relaxing ToS2 content just when I need it. Thanks you sir!
FYI, yes, Plaguebearer shows as having the Plague to Spies, and the Baker shows as having Bread That's what makes finding Bread on N1 as Spy very important; there's a 50/50 shot that you just found the Baker.
An interesting buff to pestilence would be to effectively apply a should on every player. If they can visit, they bring the sickness to the person they visit and that person dies. If they can't or don't visit, then they subumb to the plague themselves. Plague remains a powerful attack.
honestly pest is the least scary transformation of the 4 HM. it’s like War but with Powerful attacks instead of Unstoppable, and can only visit one target.
How about this for a new role Cultist- Day ability-Kidnap a Town member during the day (Available at day 2) (May only be used once) Night Ability-Talk to the Person you kidnapped Secretly. You may choose either to 1.Convert that person into your faction, (They have to accept like the admirer) 2.Execute them If they kidnap a non town member and they accept the proposal and its a neutral killing. They will kill the Cultist and learn who all the Coven are. If they accept and it is town role. The town will be notified that a member of the town has been converted. Once they have the Book they act like the conjurer. Visit and attack.
That day 3 coven wipe was hilarious. 3/4 coven died leaving a lonely HM to fend for himself vs 4 confirmed roles (Jailor, Trapper, Pros, Spy), and 2 appocs
Ahh so like the other recent video you did, the guy who was found to be affected by a horseman D2 turned out to be a horseman. Crazy The odds that the guy you checked isnt just an Apoc role is the same chance of investigating an enchanted role, so I'd just lynch it
This is the complete opposite of a game I just had yesterday where the *Conjurer* nuked the *Mayor* and the *Deputy* shot the *Pros* I used bold to make it easier to read
I had a game where I was Pros and was getting claims from everyone. One player had claimed Sheriff but didn't post their N1 results on D2, so I was a little sus of them. But some jabroni just outright refused to claim to me in whispers, after I asked him twice, so I just Pros'd him. Turns out he was town and we got double killed, but I put the Sheriff as sus in my will, just in case. Town being town, they completely ignored that and threw. Surprise surprise, the Sheriff turned out to be fake and won the game.
Why didn’t you pros the sheriff that hasn’t posted will because some people don’t want to claim in whispers because of wildling or the person asking for claims could be fake.
@@jonathantorres3589 He could've easily just claimed his alignment. He just straight up refused to give an answer, which is textbook evil behaviour. He was also the only non-claimer.
Dang, Coven got obliterated in one night but the Hex almost won. Meanwhile, three of the deadliest roles began causing havoc. Trapper and Pros clutched that game.
It will show the animation but rather than cutting to a death it will show a special message saying that this person is immune. I think I got a screenshot of it from when someone hit War as Deputy (if so I'll edit this out with the message)
Tbf i think you shouldve immediately known that 10 was fake bc they claimed coro and didnt get exact results for who the ck was. Edit: lmao, pipton did realize it but only after he had already won.
It's weird how when you prosecute someone it says "the prosecutor and defendant may state their cases", but the decision was already made. I feel like the target should have one last chance to defend themself and let the pros change their mind and inno
I mean Prosecutor is a very heavy risk reward. And outing yourself just to inno them would be very dangerous to Pros (then again same as hanging a townie). Maybe a once per game button that lets you inno and keep your prosecution charge? That way you can eject out of mislynches yet don't hold the trials hostage.
@@destinyjewel2588Or just let Pros vote inno and lose their charge? You’ve still got one left, and you’ve been revealed.
Thats a good idea, lets the pros confirm themselves without the risk of lynching a townie, drawback being that it uses a charge so that its a balanced trade.
@@davidhower7095 Yeah, I think that's a smart balancing move, to be honest.
Allow the defendant to plead their case to the Prosecutor. If the prosecutor believes them, they can choose to judge them as innocent, but still losing a charge.
I still think that doing this should automatically use up the day, however.
@@quince5892 I think that Prosecution should also automatically end the day even if the person returns to play.
You're revealed, and you used up a charge. Be careful with your next charge, assuming you remain alive by that night.
A horsemen of the apocalypse to the deputy:” you can’t defeat me.” Deputy:”I know, but he can.” Pros pops out and immediately hangs the horseman
Meanwhile, the Conjurer nukes a Jester pretending to be SK.
its crazy how the apocalypses have all these world ending power but still falls to the legal system (pest is making a huge fuss in the middle of the night, time to hang)
So the prosecutor wins by destroying all of Asgard from the inside whilst fighting off the Hulk at the same time
Seems legit
At the end there, I can just imagine Pipe walking over to William and asking "Are you alive?" To a perfectly alive person and William just turns and looks at Pipe mad. "Do I look dead to you?"
The fact that Death and Famine can control the town, while War and Pest are left to just "attack" till found, really show the unevenness of the Apoc
I feel like War is the support NA. By killing it speeds up Soul Collector and takes attention away from Famine and Pestilence.
@@FalconAggie Yeah, Berserker/War is Support. It's there to help the other ones by speeding up Soul Collector's transformation and killing people with bread once Baker transforms to make it an easy majority. Plus, it forces people to stay home once it has Rampage, making finding the horsemen a guessing game more than anything.
Plaguebearer is Support as well, by tracking infections early game, then supporting the same way as War once it transforms.
pb is by defo the weakest of the 4 though, other than maybe solo famine
Good news war and pest got buffs
They balance when it’s a 4 nue apoc, they support each other but on there own have disadvantag
this game was actually insane holy flummery
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tarnation yeah it was a insane game
What the tarnation are you on about
Kick the bucket
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SC: I am BECOME DEATH
Pipton, clicking buttons: then PERISH
This video really shows why pest's upcoming rework is so badly needed lmao - transformed pest left alone for like 3 days because it's the least threatening evil
The Apoc Hierarchy at work. It is steep and very extreme.
Death is King, the most scary. When they show up panic mode occurs. Plus Soul Collector is quite easy to achieve their goal with. Takes 3-6 days to transform and 7 to win.
Famine is Second, not quite as scary as Death, but still can ravage the Town. Issue is Baker is hell trying to achieve the goal with. Which I feel really undermines Famine's usefulness. Takes at minimum 3 days, but you can also go the entire game not transforming. And then another 3 days to win. 6 to Never. No other Apoc has that limitation.
War is Third, but so far below Death and Famine. When War appears it's like a Neutral Killing. No one really cares. The new buff did wonders, because losing 2 per night is terrifying end game. Not much to say on War. Berserker does its job of being an Apoc Killing that thins the herd. Not special, not OP, not weak. Just average.
Pestilence. The loser. They added super epic overpowered game destroying Apoc roles, gave the one night killing Apoc role the ability to kill from Night 2. And then Pest has to infect FOURTEEN PLAYERS and then kill ONE AT A TIME. It is worse than Arso. At least Arso can blow the top whenever. Pest is strangeholded. And by the time they transform, which can take 1-14 days, they have to kill 1 at a time. Baker at least is RNGesus, get a good lucky game and you're set. But Pest? Not even a threat.
I feel Pest should be more threatening while still maintaining its uniqueness. We already have Apoc Game Over, Apoc Hex Bomb, Apoc Killing. Pest should be Apoc Support. Once Plaguebearer becomes Pest, make all the Infected unable to use their abilities. Can't Pros, can't shoot, can't Jail, can't invest, can't kill.
Make them too sick to do anything. It is even lore appropriate.
@@LycanFerret didnt pest lose its unstoppable attack too?
@@mikadosannoji553 Yes. They are Powerful Attack.
15:05 I’ve seen townies throw wins in this scenario by visiting lmao, I was pest and I told everyone to stay home (3 town and me, only 1 of the other townies could visit), and I was going to try and mislynch the Psy the next day, but psy visited my target and died giving me the win anyway xd
thank YOU pipple tipple for prosecuting a Horseman of the Apocalypse in Town of Salem 2
stop pleaseee
HS jumpscare.... the whiplash
please never say the phrase pipple tipple again.
My greatest gratitude to Mr. Pipetron for getting a RARE achievement in Town of Salem 2. (this video was insane I just wanted to join this comment section thingy for once bc I’m kinda early lol, that voodoo master had karma hit him like a truck and at the end the way you chose ur pros and votes, it was the best way possible for town to win but that death was unexpected but also not bc that coroner felt fake as hell from the start)
6:07
Love how 4 referenced R6S into 6’s death about the trappers trap.
A town against 4 coven and 3 apocs and a jester hanged on d2. Town had so many chances of failing.
Hey pipe, thanks for the amazing videos man. You always make videos that are so funny.
Not only a good game as Pros, but a good game where you got to use all your prosecutions and live to tell the tale.
Thank you porous tongue for Getting a RARE Achievement in Town of Salem 2 by prosecuting your local Cosmic Horse-Riding Representative of the Fundamental Concept of Death.
I knew 10 was fake because his Coroner will was completely wrong. Coroner rework shows the EXACT role that kills a target and then you can permanently hunt for that role while searching people at night. I'm surprised you didn't notice that, Pipe!
Ah, perfect. It’s 4 AM for me and I’ve been struggling to fall asleep. Pipton coming to the rescue with some relaxing ToS2 content just when I need it. Thanks you sir!
They should add an achievement where you pros 2 or more Apocalypse and win the game.
FYI, yes, Plaguebearer shows as having the Plague to Spies, and the Baker shows as having Bread
That's what makes finding Bread on N1 as Spy very important; there's a 50/50 shot that you just found the Baker.
I 100% would have lost this game, I was so sure 7 was pest fake claiming spy, his will was always on either dead or plagued people holy moly
if you wanna find Jailor as Pros, try saying "Whoever is Jailor, jail me tonight" or something like that
An interesting buff to pestilence would be to effectively apply a should on every player. If they can visit, they bring the sickness to the person they visit and that person dies. If they can't or don't visit, then they subumb to the plague themselves. Plague remains a powerful attack.
Wasn't 10's coroner will fake from day 2? Coroner gets killer's exact role, not "coven killing"
Gotta love how Pipe has the ability to stay composed when the game escalates every night. Well played all around.
Holy 7 Townie game, with 3 apoc and full coven team, and you still manage to win it
honestly pest is the least scary transformation of the 4 HM. it’s like War but with Powerful attacks instead of Unstoppable, and can only visit one target.
This was one of the most clutch prosec moments ive seen in TOS2 yet, amazing game!
That achievement... Apocalypse Averted indeed. LOL not just one, but 3.
Thank you pipton for such an amazing content
How about this for a new role
Cultist-
Day ability-Kidnap a Town member during the day (Available at day 2) (May only be used once)
Night Ability-Talk to the Person you kidnapped Secretly.
You may choose either to
1.Convert that person into your faction, (They have to accept like the admirer)
2.Execute them
If they kidnap a non town member and they accept the proposal and its a neutral killing.
They will kill the Cultist and learn who all the Coven are.
If they accept and it is town role. The town will be notified that a member of the town has been converted.
Once they have the Book they act like the conjurer. Visit and attack.
I feel like if this doesn't make it as a new coven role, it could perhaps be a rework for how vampires work in general.
PB shows as being plagued n1 if a spy bugs them N1, it was fairly obvious 1 was plaguebarer
Spy can see plague on pb, bread on baker, and if arso stays home; spy can also see soul collections
2 na turned horsemen AS WELL AS 4 coven, and town still wins. wild game, pipton, wild game.
That day 3 coven wipe was hilarious. 3/4 coven died leaving a lonely HM to fend for himself vs 4 confirmed roles (Jailor, Trapper, Pros, Spy), and 2 appocs
Thank you Piptron for getting a Rare Achievement in Town on Salem 2
stop pleaseee
rare footage of a Pros not immediately dying day 2
Thank you POIPE for getting a RARE achievement as the PROSECUTOR.
Thank you Pickle
Great job pipe
So it begins... good luck on your achivment hunt !
Apocalypse rolls into town. Prosecutor: Not on my watch.
Wow pitonium you really got a RARE achievement in town of Salem 2
Jesus tarnation christ, this was amazing.
Thank you Pipetron for getting a RARE achievement in Town of Salem 2
SC: I am BECOME DEATHPipton, clicking buttons: then PERISH. Thank you pipton for such an amazing content.
LETS GO PROS 🎉🎉🎉
"I am become death, destroyer of wo-" "* GUI L T Y!!*"
Perfect prosecutor game ngl
Wow, its great that YOU Got a RARE Achievement in Town of Salem 2
Thank you, pipton, for getting a RARE achievement in Town of Salem 2
Pest and War are the least threatening NAs. Can easily ignore them in favor of anyone else.
We should've known earlier about fake coroner b/c if 5 is ck and 3 is enchanter that means they would be fake.
Ahh so like the other recent video you did, the guy who was found to be affected by a horseman D2 turned out to be a horseman. Crazy
The odds that the guy you checked isnt just an Apoc role is the same chance of investigating an enchanted role, so I'd just lynch it
I got the win 100 games yesterday too! You gotta stop leaving when you die bro 😂
Hey Pipe, what would you say is your favorite model out of all the character models so far in ToS2?
Whenever I roll pros, it seems like I'm in a day 1 psy or seer enemy will, so I just have a good reason to pop it
Are you going for all the achivments?
Thank you Piptron for PROSECUTING the Horseman of the APOCOLYPSE and winning 100 games in Town of Salem 2
This is the complete opposite of a game I just had yesterday where the *Conjurer* nuked the *Mayor* and the *Deputy* shot the *Pros*
I used bold to make it easier to read
okay, trap gives invincible defense. noted.
When I roll TPOW, I feel like hiding more than when I’m NK
Coven in that first game got so demolished lmao
ive been watching the vids for a while now, but why is there no maf? is it coven all any?
ToS2 got rid of Maf. Most mafia roles got converted to Coven Varients.
@@burningfox4974 damn really, are they thinking of bringing it back?
Peta'S, worst nightmare hanging A HORSE
DANG COVEN GOT DESTROYED
I had a game where I was Pros and was getting claims from everyone. One player had claimed Sheriff but didn't post their N1 results on D2, so I was a little sus of them.
But some jabroni just outright refused to claim to me in whispers, after I asked him twice, so I just Pros'd him. Turns out he was town and we got double killed, but I put the Sheriff as sus in my will, just in case.
Town being town, they completely ignored that and threw. Surprise surprise, the Sheriff turned out to be fake and won the game.
Why didn’t you pros the sheriff that hasn’t posted will because some people don’t want to claim in whispers because of wildling or the person asking for claims could be fake.
@@jonathantorres3589 He could've easily just claimed his alignment.
He just straight up refused to give an answer, which is textbook evil behaviour.
He was also the only non-claimer.
@@LAZERAK47V2 yeah that only non claimer left was needed to understand the pros
Imagine if Marshall from BetterTOS mod could exist in ToS2
Imagine
Horseman Death, the name was RiP. Kinda funny.
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Day 30 of asking Pipe to play Lovers mode in Tos 1 till he gets the rare Pestilence message.
I feel like Coroner is just if Retri was Buns
GG Great video as always :)
That was almost 4 horsemen + Coven lol
Spy can see plague on pb and bread on baker
A pros who's stronger than deputy? Amazing! UNHEARD OF!
Hi! So excuse my ignorance but why are so many comments saying "thank you pipton/piplesomething for X"?? 😂
Dang, Coven got obliterated in one night but the Hex almost won. Meanwhile, three of the deadliest roles began causing havoc.
Trapper and Pros clutched that game.
7 town, 4 coven, 3 apoc and 1 jest and town wins gg
they had maj from the start and still lost 💀
I've always been curious. What happens if a deputy shoots a role with higher defense than the attack
It will show the animation but rather than cutting to a death it will show a special message saying that this person is immune. I think I got a screenshot of it from when someone hit War as Deputy (if so I'll edit this out with the message)
I think it’s something like “(Deputy) shot (Invincible Target) in broad daylight, but their defense was too high!”
Your responses were so quick. I thought I would have to check for responses tomorrow. Also thx for letting me know
@@davidhower7095 Yeah that's pretty much the message
@@destinyjewel2588 I kinda want to see the Conjurer version of it lol
i am 90% sure pestilence has unstoppable attack
I love how coven just got destroyed n3 LMAO
4's name was Domingo German lmao.
Marlyne
W gameplay as always.
You should play some more town traitor
Hey i was the jailor in this game, definitely a fun one
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thank you PIPTON for getting this RARE achievement by PROSECUTING a HORSEY BOI
nice game
A 3 apoc game and the pros kills 2 of them
Tbf i think you shouldve immediately known that 10 was fake bc they claimed coro and didnt get exact results for who the ck was.
Edit: lmao, pipton did realize it but only after he had already won.
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Pipe he will not be hanged he will never be hanged he will be hung laughs in English nerd
Pros is just better mayor
nice
Thank you Pipton for getting a RARE achievement as the PROSECUTOR role in Town of Salem 2.
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