It was actually because Carpet of Spikes instantly activates its passive ability on purchase so when he bought it it instantly threw out many many super mines which immediately hit the nearby bloons on impact instead of landing on the track. Actually insane.
Honestly the random towers are all fun, but I think it's more interesting when there's multiple of them. I think you could create an interesting and fair run by banning Spike Factory, but in exchange, allowing up to 3 random towers, with the caveat that you have to max each one out before getting a new one. So once you've bought a tower, you have to get a 5-5-5 dead end with it in order to get your second tower. You can at any point sell a tower and begin that tier again. That feels like it would be balanced while allowing you to potentially get more power and even synergies.
@@genio2509 True, it's not a polished idea. Though because of the fact that the prices aren't truly random but instead constrained to a range, there's probably a numerical algorithm you could follow to heavily influence the odds of getting a relatively cheap 5-5-5.
Carpet of Super Mines (5-5-X) is too OP on apopalypse because they don't time out. The spikes expire after 50 seconds (bottom path extends this) or the round ending; Which ever happens first. Since rounds don't end the piles stay as long as they are allowed. The first BAD takes ~100 seconds to travel this map and your 5-5-1 spits out spikes that last 100 seconds.
11:41 Bro was so pissed he almost swore on the main channel. Never mind he does it at 17:54. But nah, you can't have a tower that cost roughly 75k and can't pop lead bloons, or get fucked on camo leads 😭
the "incident" at 0:40 seems to be the dart using the attack animation of the monkey that was before it, as the subsequent engi is "throwing" nails when attacking like a dart monkey
I think what happened at 17:09 is that you got either a 5-5-X Super monkey or a 4-5-X one and you used the X-5-X super monkey ability out of desperation before changing said super monkey to the 5-5-1 spike factory
@@RickMattison314 oh ive tried it, WAY above anything in vanilla, all of the upgrades are multiplicative. each projectile has the pierce of a perma-spike, the damage of a super mine, _and_ they're getting carpeted.
Idea: how long can 3 random 5-5-5 towers last on the longest custom map? Maybe this is too boring, easy and lengthy idk. Making it CHIMPS mode could up the stakes but I'd be fine if selling is allowed
Iirc, 554 spactory is stronger than the 555 because of the big attack speed reduction permaspike has not being worth the damage and lifespan. 555 sniper is probably obscene now with the bouncing crosspath buffs, and 5xx huge damage and splash buffs
pretty sure the insane amount of pierce the permaspike gives would make up for the loss in attackspeed considering how important pierce is to the spactory
555 increases the pierce from 10 to 90 which is a 900% dmg increase. 555 reduces attack speed from 1.75 -> 6.06 which is a 400% decrease. (The 0.75 on both from middle path doesn't matter, you can just multiply it at the end with multiplication laws) In total 555 is a big dmg increase in my book, considering every pierce used triggers the full dmg of the spike pile. However the Super Mines explosion onlynoccurs when the spike pile is used up and i did not bother to calculate hat dmg, so it might be higher
@@BOOMDIGGER That is a good point I had not considered. The super mines explosion is incredibly strong at 1000 damage with normal pierce, so able to damage multiple bloons, so it's hard to actually be sure. Also, hard to be certain on the pierce, funkiness of how the ultimate crosspathing does it's math, since it *might* be ~30 going to 110, which is ~x3.7 damage in return for that 400% attack speed reduction, plus you will trigger the big explosion less. Supermines normally has 18 pierce, and carpet has 15 at 150, base spactory is 5 pierce, so if it sums both their increases it would be 5+13+10 = 28, but idk how it actually does it
For some reason the spikes from that carpet could hit bloons before reaching the track so when you got the 551 spactory it threw 100 super mines that almost instantly blew up wiping out everything.
This might be impossible to pull off in a normal game but I'm suggesting this: "How long can all the ultimate 5-5-5 crosspath towers with random projectiles + all paragons (official and modded) last on the longest custom map?"
The 5-5-1 Spike Factory appearing with the Sun Temple effects and instantly wiping the ZOMGs near it was heavenly.
Sun gods blessing
It was actually because Carpet of Spikes instantly activates its passive ability on purchase so when he bought it it instantly threw out many many super mines which immediately hit the nearby bloons on impact instead of landing on the track. Actually insane.
17:10ish for anyone wandering
It kinda looked like the temple sacrificed the bloons
@@fikus7879 yeah, thx
I was wAndering and trading
Thank you for confirming, a second time, that sellback is 75% and not 70% with monkey knowledge
A second sellback has hit the tower
Why? 😔
3:02 bro said "we gotta go higher" and got a Monkey Ace
can we get much higher
so hiigh
🎵ignore this comment🎵 (I dont know the song)
@@TrixterTheFemboy so highhhhhhhhhh
Honestly the random towers are all fun, but I think it's more interesting when there's multiple of them. I think you could create an interesting and fair run by banning Spike Factory, but in exchange, allowing up to 3 random towers, with the caveat that you have to max each one out before getting a new one. So once you've bought a tower, you have to get a 5-5-5 dead end with it in order to get your second tower. You can at any point sell a tower and begin that tier again. That feels like it would be balanced while allowing you to potentially get more power and even synergies.
The thing is, it takes a while to get a 5-5-5, in this run he got only 2.
@@genio2509 True, it's not a polished idea. Though because of the fact that the prices aren't truly random but instead constrained to a range, there's probably a numerical algorithm you could follow to heavily influence the odds of getting a relatively cheap 5-5-5.
Carpet of Super Mines (5-5-X) is too OP on apopalypse because they don't time out. The spikes expire after 50 seconds (bottom path extends this) or the round ending; Which ever happens first. Since rounds don't end the piles stay as long as they are allowed. The first BAD takes ~100 seconds to travel this map and your 5-5-1 spits out spikes that last 100 seconds.
4:14 "i wonder why there is not sniper paragon..."
What a 2-3-3 sniper can do:
11:41 Bro was so pissed he almost swore on the main channel. Never mind he does it at 17:54.
But nah, you can't have a tower that cost roughly 75k and can't pop lead bloons, or get fucked on camo leads 😭
no sacrifice true sun god🌚
Aslong as he don't swear at the beginning of videos he will be fine
Is shit a swear word? Unless he fbombs something, I don't see any problems
this makes me so curious to see what the spactory paragon is going to be when it finally gets added sometime next decade
Fire as always ISAB 🔥
Thank you isab for lasting long with a random tower
I missed this so much
7:06 stutter of all time
the "incident" at 0:40 seems to be the dart using the attack animation of the monkey that was before it, as the subsequent engi is "throwing" nails when attacking like a dart monkey
0:01 Good question isab
3:00 I think the ace was clipping below the map, making the darts invisible
You should beat elite Blastapopoulos with a T4 cap with this mod combo
Or at least ban the absolutely busted T5s
I think what happened at 17:09 is that you got either a 5-5-X Super monkey or a 4-5-X one and you used the X-5-X super monkey ability out of desperation before changing said super monkey to the 5-5-1 spike factory
No he got a 4-0-4 which he upgraded into a 5-5-1 spike factory which instantly casts spike storm when upgraded
Imagine if he actually got the 5-5-5 Spactory, though. That thing is on the level of Degree 100 Paragons (maybe even higher!).
@@RickMattison314leagues higher even before buffs. With buffs I believe 555 spacktory can get to rounf 350-400 alone
@@RickMattison314 oh ive tried it, WAY above anything in vanilla, all of the upgrades are multiplicative. each projectile has the pierce of a perma-spike, the damage of a super mine, _and_ they're getting carpeted.
Hello Mr. ISAB. Thank you for the video😁
one random 5-5-5 tower definitely lasts longer than ISAB with Sauda
Not by the notification, but by the call of heart
spidey sense
Depends who he’s doing it with
That’s the point-
What if he's doing it with Sauda?
@@Joco9995 seconds max
Most normal isab comment.
@@Joco999Day 407 of wishing i was Sauda
This channel refuses to die istg
discount village at 7:25
Omega discount village at 9:33
i would love yo see more of this, its always so entrataining
2030: the spactory paragon re-writes all meta in its image.
plz dont ban the Spactory, i think that's the best part of this video
Idea: how long can 3 random 5-5-5 towers last on the longest custom map?
Maybe this is too boring, easy and lengthy idk. Making it CHIMPS mode could up the stakes but I'd be fine if selling is allowed
Iirc, 554 spactory is stronger than the 555 because of the big attack speed reduction permaspike has not being worth the damage and lifespan.
555 sniper is probably obscene now with the bouncing crosspath buffs, and 5xx huge damage and splash buffs
pretty sure the insane amount of pierce the permaspike gives would make up for the loss in attackspeed considering how important pierce is to the spactory
555 increases the pierce from 10 to 90 which is a 900% dmg increase.
555 reduces attack speed from 1.75 -> 6.06 which is a 400% decrease. (The 0.75 on both from middle path doesn't matter, you can just multiply it at the end with multiplication laws)
In total 555 is a big dmg increase in my book, considering every pierce used triggers the full dmg of the spike pile. However the Super Mines explosion onlynoccurs when the spike pile is used up and i did not bother to calculate hat dmg, so it might be higher
@@BOOMDIGGER That is a good point I had not considered. The super mines explosion is incredibly strong at 1000 damage with normal pierce, so able to damage multiple bloons, so it's hard to actually be sure. Also, hard to be certain on the pierce, funkiness of how the ultimate crosspathing does it's math, since it *might* be ~30 going to 110, which is ~x3.7 damage in return for that 400% attack speed reduction, plus you will trigger the big explosion less.
Supermines normally has 18 pierce, and carpet has 15 at 150, base spactory is 5 pierce, so if it sums both their increases it would be 5+13+10 = 28, but idk how it actually does it
@@TOOTHBRUSHDUCKdo ur research and stop spreading misinformation ur not even sure abt idiot
For some reason the spikes from that carpet could hit bloons before reaching the track so when you got the 551 spactory it threw 100 super mines that almost instantly blew up wiping out everything.
Isab you're my hero thank you
Not now babe, my GOAT uploaded 💯
"Its never going to get pierced capped" "Why is it getting pierced capped"
Isab posts, i tune in
Really good vid today!!
ISAB, please come back home, we miss you.
Comment doesn’t even make sense
@@FYZZUMP thats isab's horse he misses isab
Mommy ISAB🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
i can last very long
Mortars carried this whole thing, yet people still won’t use it bc micro
7:06 ibbity-ib-ib-ib-ib-that’s all folks!
gonna roll up to the club with my new robo monkey isab merch
What mod Manager are you using for btd6 mods?
It can last longer than me, that's for sure.
Night 137 of watching isab every night before bed
Great video
cool video
Isab is life
Why can't the 5-5-5 tower just be replaced with the paragon(if the tower has one) of the tower?
0:56
Boats shoot BEHIND?! What are you on ISAB?
They shoot sideways.
Im pretty sure the buccaneer caused the tower to shoot from the sides when it was attacking he bloons
5-5-X spactory is comical
Now try this, but with a custom map.
Is the thumbnail called the Legend of the Sun Terror or Tech God of the Night?
This might be impossible to pull off in a normal game but I'm suggesting this:
"How long can all the ultimate 5-5-5 crosspath towers with random projectiles + all paragons (official and modded) last on the longest custom map?"
Are paragons in the tower cycle?
Hi, Isab!
I'm going to guess round 200
Isab i love you
5-5-anything spac is just too OP.... 5-5-5 alone would likely get you to about round 250+
Comrades, keeping pushing the bots back. The war still rages but we are not and will nor faulter.
I want this to be a bot comment
@@Nilloc777well, I’m not
@@alexs8629 drats
12:39 operation ouch ?
W vid
CHA! MAGANERA!
Sauda next
Maybe you should use a mib next time
You were too scared of swapping towers imo
Sugma
Glazers
Wait wtf I never knew it was aPOPalyse I just read it as apocalypse bruh 😂
Longer than all of skibidi toilet
NO BOTS
The problem isn't spike factory being op, is everything being absolute shit
Peak
Snowpat 🤮
I died of cringe ( also funny strat you have run )
Thank you ISAB for the gambling session 🙏🙏
I hear more and more Yugioh Quotes in the last time
Do you play yugioh in your freetime isab?😮
Chicken sandwich
1 min ago is crazy
balls.
How long can one random 555 sauda last against isab😂
Hi
content well running dry i see
isab is drying his well
Long...
wow. I can't even last more than 1 round with ISAB
I broke discord and now I can’t join your server. :(
longer than me :(
😊
90th comment
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wdym ONLY s single 5-5-5 tower?
aisb
11 seconds
6 hours ago and late
is it gay to gay, or not to gay?
It’s gay to not gay
What...
Gray
The question?
Nut?
not even 1k views yet after 5 minutes? Fell off
"How Long Can One ISAB Last With Sauda?"
Sauda balls
Stop using mods
Why? He is running out of idea very quickly if he didn' use mods, btw mods made his vid more interesting
The real question is how long I’d last with ISAB 🫢