Complains about California, but then complains moving will be a paycut. Well, duh! You are paid more in California *because* it has a higher cost of living. This guy has a serious case of "grass is greener" syndrome, and shows he doesn't really care what his wife thinks. No matter where he moves, he'll find something to complain about.
Agreed!. He complains about his bosss, but CA is the size of a country 44 million people, he could get a different job/boss, or become his own boss. He says hes been unhappy for over 10 years-- I think he is just a whiner not a doer.
most agencies base part of your pay on your location. Its called "locality pay". If he moves to georgia, they will adjust his pay based on his locality. He will take a pay cut moving to georgia.
This caller sounds like the type of guy who is not happy with his life, and he tells himself the only other option is a big, extreme, drastic change that he can't attain, and uses it as an excuse to not do anything.
I moved last year from the cheapest part of the country (Louisiana) to California. It’s more expensive here, but my quality of life skyrocketed ten folds. Cheaper is cheaper for a reason. Be careful with that grass is greener on the other side mentality.
@@taylor15589 his wife would be unhappy for sure, losing 2/3 of her income to move to a state she knew she hates so that her husband can fulfill his dream but most likely would still whine abt life once he moves there.....
@@Jane-rh7tc oh yeah she would absolutely hate it. The dude is so selfish I don’t even think he sees it all. Leave her job, leave that kind of income, leave her family, leave her friends and even go to a place she doesn’t like?? Absolutely insane.. he’s even saying he just needs to be there a few more years. I do get tho that will feel like an eternity. Being mentally okay is super important so talks definitely need to be had, he probably shouldn’t stay at that job if he can’t take it. But to deny such a high income is just pure idiocy
Exactly sometimes you have to go through hell to get to the promise land. Especially if you got a family and like he said he got a pension he can’t afford to lose. He should keep dreaming about one day he won’t have to work full time if at all because of that pension. He should report whoever is giving him a hard time after all these years that’s ridiculous.
I work for a government agency in California. Leaving his job before he is eligible for his full pension will result in a HUGE financial hit. Refusal to work for the full 30 years in civil service is severely penalized financially. I have 25 years of service and dream of retirement every day but, the price of early retirement is very, very high. And, yes, this state SUCKS. I feel you, Josh, but, hang in there!
Hey. I was in this situation. But couldn’t walk away from that sweet retirement of 75k per year, after only working there 20 years, and being able to collect at any age. I stuck it out. Now it’s passive income until death.
Yeah, those golden handcuffs are real for sure. I work in a job that I hate, but the stability and benefits are good. So, I have to suck it up and deal with it until I retire. Many people are in that situation regardless of what state they live in.
a few thoughts. An experienced RN can earn an acceptable living in any state. Toxic jobs and bosses are to be found everywhere. I would like more specifics on the toxicity.
The RN life is very good in California though with high pay, strong unions and ratios. There is a reason so many travelers like me settle here when they’re finished traveling. I don’t think I could hang in another state anymore😂
I traded 20 years of my life to work for NYC, and that sacrifice set me up to be debt free. My advice to this caller would be to suck it up for seven more years in the People's Republic Of California, bank as much as possible, move to America, and never look back.
My wife and I sold our house in Florida to move to Texas. I invested some of the money from the sale in the stock market. The portfolio is up 543k this month alone, while everybody I know is watching stock news. I guess he knows the investment is making profit, but we've never really spoken openly about it. It's one of the best choices I made.
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This guy wants to blame a state for his unhappiness. LOL.. where ever you go, there you are. You don't like your boss, California is the size of a country with 44 million people, get a different boss, better yet become your own boss. Geeze..
Exactly. CA has issues, but what state doesn't. We also have a robust economy, incredible climate, every culture, great food, so much to do, mountains, the beach, I mean it's not that bad! Lol.
@@as2223you forgot high crime, homeless everywhere, drug problems, failing schools, high taxes, politics in schools, lack of freedoms, expensive real estate, crowded roads, expensive food etc. so yeah some of those things you said were true and other cities have those things as well. But is it worth what I mentioned?
@@o0usf0o well unfortunately I have visited and more importantly there are 49 options outside of California sobpicking a few of your least favorite isn’t a great argument. Lastly good or bad in another state doesn’t negate my argument. California is rich in resources and in a great location but it doesn’t change what the state has done to itself.
I dislike the politics and taxes of California, but he sounds like he is fixating on the state being the impediment to happiness. He and his wife really need to research and become excited about a new place, not just flee thinking happiness is found in another state.
I live in San Francisco and I am content. The main issues is that in the past years homelessness, crime and traffic has increased. The cost of housing has gone up but fortunately we purchased a home 20 years ago. We max out our 401 K plans, HSA and contribute to 529 plans. Being able to work from home and cutting my hours in half helped with my work life balance. My vacation also increased to 8 weeks off per year from 6 weeks. I also get 10 holidays and 16 sick days per year. I have 401 K matching and a pension. Hoping to retire at age 60 with $5-6 million if possible. I will probably buy a place in Hawaii at that point near my relatives and keep my house in San Francisco.
I love living in California! For some of us, it's the American Dream. Everyone is different, if you're unhappy here, and don't like paying for things, move elsewhere.
It All about him... This guy is going to be frustrated no matter what he does, he's obviously just an anxious person... I live in CA, work for a bad boss, with for the government, and my wife is a nurse... He's fine. Get over it and go to the beach, appreciate what you have and go to church
@@Person-mh6xq Well, I don't think it even matters what party you are in. If you are hate communism and high taxes, then Cali is not for you. It's a great state to visit, but I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can live there. It took my cousin over 20 years to finally get out of there because she hated it so much and she is not a republican.
Yep... they are a team. As a wife, I earn more right now but wouldn't mind my husband making more than myself. My corporate life is soul sucking... he can take on the extra bills/ savings coming from my paycheck 😅
@@yia01 Sure, $187.2k to $62.4k. But how much of that $187.2k is going towards the mortgage plus taxes plus just living in Cali. Depending on how much his pay cut is, still would make great income for the state. 2023 the median household income in Georgia was $74,632. If he stays in six figures (plus his ego probably can't go lower than that) and she takes a pay cut, they'll still be fine. Plus they have major equity in their house for being almost done. They can probably buy a house outright in Georgia. They wouldn't suffer like you think they would.
@@Feelsbad1 I think he would still be miserable. He's close to retirement age, meaning he most likely bought the house long time ago when it was cheap, and should be with a low rate if he refinanced 3 yrs ago. He's already doing a lot better financially than many younger generations, yet he's still miserable at a job that he hates but choose to not leave for 17 yrs. This guy's issue is not $$, he woule be miserable with different reasons even after he moves to Georgia
I thought the same thing. In fact, recently I asked my brother if he ever had a job he didn't hate and he was actually surprised. He said that he liked ALL of his jobs. He said that some of them did not pay very well and he wasn't thrilled about that but he said he really enjoyed all of his jobs. Now THAT surprised ME!
I actually really like my job! My boss is super chill, my co-workers mostly stick to themselves, only in office one day a week working 9-5 in finance. But my two previous jobs were terrible. Two previous bosses that I would never want to have again, two jobs I would never want to have again. Sometimes it takes a few crappy ones to find a really good one.
uh, thats 1 of ramseys key principles & y ken is there -- 'do work that u luv' /i dislike maybe 40% of the job. i like the otha 60%. if i can keep it mostly in that range as i hav 4 almos all of my career im fine ...
Im constantly bemused by the fact that people dont understand that pay scales tend to follow the cost of living. "If i move to a lower COL area i will get paid less!" Yeah, thats the way it works.
@@chet9128 no it doesn’t any if you who say it does means you don’t live here or you’re an idiot that makes blanket statements and fixates on problems. Usually you are the problem
I get the impression that this guy would be miserable anywhere. He’d just complain about different things and blame different people for his dissatisfaction with his life. Other than maybe prison or an abusive childhood, it doesn’t take 17 years to get yourself out of a miserable situation.
Oh he’s getting divorced. Dude is overly emotional and willing to sacrifice his wife’s good position for himself. Bro calm down and try getting a new job first before.
I live in the same metro as the caller. California has wacky ideas and laws, but the weather, things to do, and job opportunities are the best here by far.
@@ddawe31635 I lived in California for over 30 years. Now I live in a conservative red state. I like both. Red state is good for the quiet life, raising a family. California has more to do, more fun, better in your 20s. Both have their pros and cons.
And Georgia sucks dude ....lived in 3 different countries in Georgia one worse than the other! Plus who wants to live in a state that supports Moscow MTG??? WHAT AN EMBARRASSMENT SHE IS, TO GEORGIA AND THE USA! 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
Why can't he just change jobs in the same city? Also a great idea, "I'll move to a lower paying jobs so I pay less taxes!" You know what else that means? Less NET money too!
He sounds unhinged. A person like this can move to Alaska, Connecticut, Mississippi, Georgia and he could be unhappy there too. 17 years??? There’s something else happening here…I feel sorry for his wife. He’s a complainer big time. 10 years of misery bc of a pension? Bruh please
Is it REALY just the state? I had a friend who lived in Milwaukee and he contantly talked "i can't wait to get out of Milwaukee!!!" He moved to Orlando months later. He moved out Orlando just 6 months later.
California is a difficult state but the lifestyle and everything in Georgia is totally different. I don't think you guys won't like the change. Moving from the West Coast to the East Coast is hard. I live in Florida and don't like it. I lived in Arizona and loved it. It's, it's a totally different world on this side of the country.
I've met many folks this year who've moved to NC from CA, and they were able to sell their home in CA, and pay off their home here in NC due to the cost difference.
Then they bring their politics and mess up another state. They create the very thing they’re trying to escape. It’s the same thing with the illegals. Escape the 3rd world, only to create another one.
Foster to adopt? Just equals money from the state to equal what he was making in California. He’s not interested in freaking kids! He wants money! He said it himself he’s emotional; foster children already go through a tough time. He’s just going to add onto their stressors of being a foster child. Children do not belong with him that’s for sure! He low-key sounds like he’s ready to go postal! LBVS.
You didn't know that's what fostering has become? Speak to your local DA on foster kids who commit auto thefts cause the foster parents could care less. People don't care, but shocking whenever you remove morals and values from society. Wow. Shocking. Wow. Wow. Maybe vote harder next time?
I'm 31 now but I've often thought about fostering or foster to adopt in the future. Especially older kids! They need love too! People forget about them. Perhaps once I'm in my 40's and have my own home by then. I've never been interested in pregnancy but I love kids. My mom was sadly raised in several different foster homes. I'd even foster if it meant no assistance money, it just saddens me how many kids are currently in our system waiting for good homes.
I’m from California, hate California. The Army stationed me there TWICE in the WORST part of California. Life is what you make it. Josh, you might be your problem!
I lived in Ca for decades. People rarely complained about taxes until they started giving it to homeless and addicts. People don’t want to pay taxes for that.
This guy thinks a "geographic fix" is going to solve his supposed problems. CA to GA is a huge cultural shift. I retired from the State of Tennessee, it was a toxic work environment the last few years, but I like the retiree benefits. He needs to think long and hard before he gives those up.
I live in California. I feel for Josh. Not leaving because of the job, but if I got an opportunity to leave. Bye Bye California. High Tax, High Crime, High Homeless. High Grime. That's CA.
That's the opposite side of the country from where the wife's family lives. Also, what if they move to GA and they hate it there? He needs to find a job in a state closer to CA.
I feel his pain. I was stuck in the Seattle area, which has changed for the worse over the years. I was able to retire and escape to Boise, and life is so much better now.
Wow, RN in CA makes $90 hr??? I was an RN for 23 years and am currently an NP. She makes way more than me. Still complains living in CA and hates everything? Get the hell out then! There are plenty of people who would love to take your place!
@@Desertbiker617, a lot of nurses here in California work per diem and work at a fulltime position and on call on a second. Most hospital RNs are unionized and they make a lot of OT and DT. Its pretty crazy which is why a lot of RNs will fly in from different states and work for a couple of weeks and then fly back home for a month
Happiness in life is what matters. If you make less money but you are happy and can pay your bills then who cares?? Live your life while you have it. It is extremely short.
Josh needs to transfer to Georgia alone. Stay for a year and see if it really is what you want. You can fly home once a month. If it’s everything you thought it was going to be, then your wife can move. What does it matter if your house is paid off in 4 years if you hate California? Sell it after a year and buy a house of your choice in Georgia. I’m a Southerner that’s lived in CA for decades. I hate it until I visit “back home” and can’t wait to get back “home” to California.
Starting pay for a nurse in Georgia is about $30/hr. Experienced nurses can earn more, and those in specialized areas can earn even more. And while the pay will probably be 50% less, taxes are less, congestion (at least outside of Atlanta) is less, but ... the humidity is a beast in summer. Be prepared.
Come on man! It’s Sacramento! Of course it sucks! Come down to the Central Coast. Tons of nursing jobs, perfect weather and I’m sure you have enough equity to purchase a small house around here.
Why would a couple decide to “FOSTER” a child under an already BAD situation? Spare a child’s exposure to your problems. Fostering is a very demanding and stressful commitment. You are not the man to do this charitable endeavor. Don’t drag unsuspecting victims into your unhappy life.
California taxes are high! Move to Nebraska! Our property taxes are nearly $5,000 a year for a $300,000 home. We bought a new truck, taxes on that were $5,000. Nebraska is the tax me state!
Try buying a house, gas for your car, groceries, utilities in California. You have ZERO perspective. Or come to MN and get bent over on income tax and sales tax.
@garagehobbies The problem is that none of those states are well run. Both OR and WA have major freeway problems. The states don't widen their freeways, and traffic has insane choke points in both states.
California isn’t cheap and has its problems but he’s stayed 17 years? He’s not going to suddenly become happy in another state. I know too many people who have moved thinking that would happen and they’re usually trying to get back within a couple years.
His house is probably way more expensive than other places in the country. If he moves, he could probably pay cash for his next house in a cheaper area.
Yes. He said that he's only 4 years from having his house paid off. Which means he probably has massive equity. He could sell it and pay cash for a house somewhere else and still have a bunch left over.
i live in CA, hopefully one day ill move. but i understand that taking a paycut would be worth it. ive looked at other states and see how much lower taxes are, cost of living, gas, car registration, etc. people are under the illusion in CA that having that high dollar is that great when so much of our paychecks go to taxes and the crazy costs of stuff here
Ok, Im putting two and two together here. He says he is a federal government employee (at the beginning). Later alludes to doing travel agency work. He is a GSA employee. There is no reason he cannot stay w GSA in a different position. And most if not all of this kind of work is done remotely. To keep his marriage, and if they agree to leave California, he should let his wife pick where to move to. They each can work wherever.
He sounds like he's the problem. The fact that he seems to have gotten himself into a situation where he has to get out yesterday, is saying something! And pushing the move to somewhere his wife hates...!!! He's almost retired, house almost paid. Dude shut up, get a hobby, and find gratitude!
Leaving family is not a good idea. I know, I moved across Canada and regret it. Do not leave family. You have 7 more years, suck it up or get a new job.
I feel where he’s coming from. It can be soul-crushing if the environment you’re in day in and day out is toxic. You can have gratitude for the good things in your life and still want to live and work in a place more in line with your core values. Sometimes you wind up in a place temporarily that is an energy suck because of things that are out of your control. Sometimes it’s in your control and just due to bad decisions. Either way, wanting to change it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s an ungrateful complainer. It just means he needs to make some decisions (and maybe some sacrifices) to change the situation if it’s important to him.
Just get a new job. For $90 an hour, I would not move. The wife will not lose her 401k. Will cost of living be 66% lover? Sounds like the problem is his job. And not really California.
LOL this caller annoyed me in the first minute of hearing hime rant. Stop blaming a state for your unhappiness and change what you can with consideration to your wife.
I took it to mean he works for the federal government but he was talking so fast i may have missed it. If federal it doesn't matter where he lives. Depending where he lives in california and where he moves to in georgia, he will take a pay cut due to the cost of living adjustment which will ultimately affect his high 3 and thus his pension but it probably won't be major difference.
He likely got in trouble for not referring to a co-worker as “they/them,” cause he speaks so fast, it sounded like “ze/zi.” When he tried to explain it to HR, he kept making the same mistake because he was speaking too quickly.
California is truly and awful state to live in, there are parts of it that are like a 3rd world country. But people want to stay because of the weather. The people that cite the weather in most cases, spend the vast majority of their lives indoors. Climate control exists and is way cheaper than living in California.
His lifestyle doesn’t let him leave. He can’t take his and his wife’s high paying (salaried) wages here to another state which will charge you less. His wife would definitely hate moving to most of the states this guy is thinking. Especially when she find out they are not as hospitable to worker rights as California is
@@Evirthewarrioror just maybe some policies are good? California is really good with worker protection laws buddy. Once you move out of state you see how bad other states exploit their workers
@@hawkeye3938 Californians are being exploited by their government in taxes way more than they are by their employers. The cost of living absurdly high in California, Just on housing, you are paying over twice what you do in other states. The Median home price in California is like 900k now with the median size 1790 square feet? I just bought a 1817 square foot new construction house for 350k, right outside of Charlotte NC. We have about 150k in household income. So it isn't like we are taking a massive hit on living standards.
@@wolfie71231 California voted against same sex marriage twice!!! But the politicians passed it anyway. Keep believing everyone in Cali is with the agenda
There are no easy answers here. If his timeline were two years (and not seven), I would tell him to stay. Whatever he does, he and his wife have to be on the same page. Otherwise, their marriage won't survive. Also, where was he going with the adoption thing? I fail to see how adopting a child would address any of his problems--in fact, the increase in their household expenses would only make thing worse.
Absolutely true. Finance is 20% numbers and 80% emotions/personality. These two lack insight in this call. If Rachel was not Dave's offspring she'd never be sitting at that desk. The man is trapped, I can hear it in his desperation and he really needs some guidance. i hope he goes to a professional financial counselor and therapy session to get some insight where to focus his attention rather than on being trapped in his work situation. Rachel failed again.
Money is not the problem, this guys "toxic" job is not the problem, this guys attitude is the problem, he needs to change his headspace towards an attitude of gratitude.
Why is it the state of California’s fault that your wife would make less money if you moved somewhere else? This guy is all over the place. He just can’t figure anything out so he blames it on everything else.
Two of my wife’s coworkers (with families) moved a thousand miles away. They both moved back. Life isn’t always greener on the other side. For years I used to think, “Win the lottery and move to Colorado.” I’ve been there many times since 2015 for fun, family and daughter’s college. My Colorado fantasy ended long ago. No thanks.
This guy is full of BS.. He is a Federal employee located in CA but wants to move to GA and stay working with the same agency. You know what's going to happen? His locality pay will be reduced because it is based on his geographical place of employment. He won't be able to keep his CA locality pay; it will go down to the GA locality pay. That's how it works, dude.
I'm a native Californian, who moved out of state in 2020 largely for political reasons. While I don't regret my decision at all, I think the caller is placing too much emphasis on the perceived benefits of leaving California. Yes the cost of living in California is high, but wages are also high. Depending on where you relocate and your chosen occupation, you may find that your standard of living decreases by moving to a red state. Sometimes it's in your best interest to accept the good and the bad.
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No matter where he goes he is never going to get away from Josh.
Going to a state that your wife hates is a bad bad bad idea
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Josh needs to lay off the caffeine.
Lolol
I normally watch at 2x speed. Couldn't do it.
He is JACKED!
Complains about California, but then complains moving will be a paycut. Well, duh! You are paid more in California *because* it has a higher cost of living. This guy has a serious case of "grass is greener" syndrome, and shows he doesn't really care what his wife thinks. No matter where he moves, he'll find something to complain about.
He'll move to Georgia and then complain about all the gay men and mosquitoes
Agreed!. He complains about his bosss, but CA is the size of a country 44 million people, he could get a different job/boss, or become his own boss. He says hes been unhappy for over 10 years-- I think he is just a whiner not a doer.
Bingo
most agencies base part of your pay on your location. Its called "locality pay". If he moves to georgia, they will adjust his pay based on his locality. He will take a pay cut moving to georgia.
@@irenekanel.ac.7721 hes working for the government probably couldnt handle a job in the private sector.
This caller sounds like the type of guy who is not happy with his life, and he tells himself the only other option is a big, extreme, drastic change that he can't attain, and uses it as an excuse to not do anything.
I moved last year from the cheapest part of the country (Louisiana) to California. It’s more expensive here, but my quality of life skyrocketed ten folds. Cheaper is cheaper for a reason. Be careful with that grass is greener on the other side mentality.
Money doesn't make you happy. But NOT HAVING MONEY will surely make you miserable.
So true.
Losing that amount of income too… like that is not a quick adjustment to get used too
@@taylor15589 his wife would be unhappy for sure, losing 2/3 of her income to move to a state she knew she hates so that her husband can fulfill his dream but most likely would still whine abt life once he moves there.....
@@Jane-rh7tc oh yeah she would absolutely hate it. The dude is so selfish I don’t even think he sees it all. Leave her job, leave that kind of income, leave her family, leave her friends and even go to a place she doesn’t like?? Absolutely insane..
he’s even saying he just needs to be there a few more years.
I do get tho that will feel like an eternity. Being mentally okay is super important so talks definitely need to be had, he probably shouldn’t stay at that job if he can’t take it. But to deny such a high income is just pure idiocy
Exactly sometimes you have to go through hell to get to the promise land.
Especially if you got a family and like he said he got a pension he can’t afford to lose.
He should keep dreaming about one day he won’t have to work full time if at all because of
that pension. He should report whoever is giving him a hard time after all these years that’s ridiculous.
I work for a government agency in California. Leaving his job before he is eligible for his full pension will result in a HUGE financial hit. Refusal to work for the full 30 years in civil service is severely penalized financially. I have 25 years of service and dream of retirement every day but, the price of early retirement is very, very high. And, yes, this state SUCKS. I feel you, Josh, but, hang in there!
Nothing is going to change when they move. He’ll continue to whine.
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Ok. So I'm not the only one thinking he's a drama queen. 😂
Or she'll start whining
Completely inappropriate comment for so many reasons. Good grief.
@@tugboat2030 at least she's realistic enough and knows she hates Georgia before she moves there
You've wanted to leave for 17 years and yet you're still there.... Those golden handcuffs must be really tight.
The taxes suck but the money is good! 😂
Hey. I was in this situation. But couldn’t walk away from that sweet retirement of 75k per year, after only working there 20 years, and being able to collect at any age. I stuck it out. Now it’s passive income until death.
Same for me kinda, I work for the State but I love my job. But the main reason is I'm not leaving my aging parents as I'm an only child.
@@q6_zillawhat do you do
Yeah, those golden handcuffs are real for sure. I work in a job that I hate, but the stability and benefits are good. So, I have to suck it up and deal with it until I retire. Many people are in that situation regardless of what state they live in.
a few thoughts. An experienced RN can earn an acceptable living in any state. Toxic jobs and bosses are to be found everywhere. I would like more specifics on the toxicity.
The RN life is very good in California though with high pay, strong unions and ratios. There is a reason so many travelers like me settle here when they’re finished traveling. I don’t think I could hang in another state anymore😂
Absolutely. She can make way more than $30 in any state.
Lived in NC, SC, CA, and OR. They were all great. The one constant, you will be where you are.
Lol
If he voted Democrat, then he better stay for what he voted for. If he didn't vote Democrat, then move asap.
What place did you like the most?
I am also going to leave Cali at some point 😅
@taylord1558 I left Cali for oregon, and I regret it. Different state, but the same bullsh*t. Go to a red state. That's my next move.
@@strangerthingsaresaid7655 yeah im republican. Cali too democrat 😬😬
I traded 20 years of my life to work for NYC, and that sacrifice set me up to be debt free. My advice to this caller would be to suck it up for seven more years in the People's Republic Of California, bank as much as possible, move to America, and never look back.
My wife and I sold our house in Florida to move to Texas. I invested some of the money from the sale in the stock market. The portfolio is up 543k this month alone, while everybody I know is watching stock news. I guess he knows the investment is making profit, but we've never really spoken openly about it. It's one of the best choices I made.
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This guy wants to blame a state for his unhappiness. LOL.. where ever you go, there you are. You don't like your boss, California is the size of a country with 44 million people, get a different boss, better yet become your own boss. Geeze..
Exactly. CA has issues, but what state doesn't. We also have a robust economy, incredible climate, every culture, great food, so much to do, mountains, the beach, I mean it's not that bad! Lol.
@@as2223you forgot high crime, homeless everywhere, drug problems, failing schools, high taxes, politics in schools, lack of freedoms, expensive real estate, crowded roads, expensive food etc. so yeah some of those things you said were true and other cities have those things as well. But is it worth what I mentioned?
@@lukerider479you should visit just about every state along the Mississippi River. You’ll be begging for California
@@o0usf0o well unfortunately I have visited and more importantly there are 49 options outside of California sobpicking a few of your least favorite isn’t a great argument. Lastly good or bad in another state doesn’t negate my argument. California is rich in resources and in a great location but it doesn’t change what the state has done to itself.
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I dislike the politics and taxes of California, but he sounds like he is fixating on the state being the impediment to happiness. He and his wife really need to research and become excited about a new place, not just flee thinking happiness is found in another state.
I live in San Francisco and I am content. The main issues is that in the past years homelessness, crime and traffic has increased. The cost of housing has gone up but fortunately we purchased a home 20 years ago. We max out our 401 K plans, HSA and contribute to 529 plans. Being able to work from home and cutting my hours in half helped with my work life balance. My vacation also increased to 8 weeks off per year from 6 weeks. I also get 10 holidays and 16 sick days per year. I have 401 K matching and a pension. Hoping to retire at age 60 with $5-6 million if possible. I will probably buy a place in Hawaii at that point near my relatives and keep my house in San Francisco.
I love living in California! For some of us, it's the American Dream. Everyone is different, if you're unhappy here, and don't like paying for things, move elsewhere.
It All about him... This guy is going to be frustrated no matter what he does, he's obviously just an anxious person... I live in CA, work for a bad boss, with for the government, and my wife is a nurse... He's fine. Get over it and go to the beach, appreciate what you have and go to church
Go to church? Remember when California shut churches down under threat of arrest. How did your forget that?
California is terrible. I did it for 30+ years and God put it into my heart to leave that devils playground of a state. It saved my life to leave.
All good...except the "go to church" nonsense. Not everyone believes in that.
@@John-du2mq You are way too dramatic and clearly a heavy-duty republican to even say such ridiculousness.
@@Person-mh6xq Well, I don't think it even matters what party you are in. If you are hate communism and high taxes, then Cali is not for you. It's a great state to visit, but I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can live there. It took my cousin over 20 years to finally get out of there because she hated it so much and she is not a republican.
Hes blaming the government for his problems but working for the government 😂
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"We work for the government in the wealthiest state in the US and make phenomenal wages...I hate it here."
@@LyricalTampon. Proof money doesn’t buy happiness
@@LyricalTamponsays the person obviously not from California
Federal vs. state. State taxes in California do not benefit federal employees.
He himself isn't ready to take a pay cut and switch jobs but he's fine with his wife taking a paycut lmfaoooo
Yep... they are a team. As a wife, I earn more right now but wouldn't mind my husband making more than myself. My corporate life is soul sucking... he can take on the extra bills/ savings coming from my paycheck 😅
$90/h to $30/h is not a pay cut. that basically not working anymore.
@@yia01 Sure, $187.2k to $62.4k. But how much of that $187.2k is going towards the mortgage plus taxes plus just living in Cali. Depending on how much his pay cut is, still would make great income for the state. 2023 the median household income in Georgia was $74,632. If he stays in six figures (plus his ego probably can't go lower than that) and she takes a pay cut, they'll still be fine. Plus they have major equity in their house for being almost done. They can probably buy a house outright in Georgia. They wouldn't suffer like you think they would.
@@Feelsbad1 I think he would still be miserable. He's close to retirement age, meaning he most likely bought the house long time ago when it was cheap, and should be with a low rate if he refinanced 3 yrs ago. He's already doing a lot better financially than many younger generations, yet he's still miserable at a job that he hates but choose to not leave for 17 yrs. This guy's issue is not $$, he woule be miserable with different reasons even after he moves to Georgia
Life is too short to live in a crappy situation... exactly why I'm moving back to CA from TX lol
So you like CA that much better than TX?
@@e79422 It's not a state thing, it's a climate thing.
Blue High tax states tend to be High income also. Can't complain about the taxes when you enjoy the high income. Pick your poison.
High cost of living too. A lot of times it’s not necessarily a wash. People in NY are paying thousands for a box apartment
And high crime in blue states
@@cainmarko1234 and top universities and employers in blue states 😉
They always want their cake to eat it too.
I thought we all hated our jobs....I didn't know there was an option to work a job I liked.
There is.I mean I have bad days but they are rare, I really like both of my jobs.
I thought the same thing. In fact, recently I asked my brother if he ever had a job he didn't hate and he was actually surprised. He said that he liked ALL of his jobs. He said that some of them did not pay very well and he wasn't thrilled about that but he said he really enjoyed all of his jobs. Now THAT surprised ME!
I actually really like my job! My boss is super chill, my co-workers mostly stick to themselves, only in office one day a week working 9-5 in finance. But my two previous jobs were terrible. Two previous bosses that I would never want to have again, two jobs I would never want to have again. Sometimes it takes a few crappy ones to find a really good one.
uh, thats 1 of ramseys key principles & y ken is there -- 'do work that u luv' /i dislike maybe 40% of the job. i like the otha 60%. if i can keep it mostly in that range as i hav 4 almos all of my career im fine ...
Dude is heading for a divorce. This guy must be awful to live with. She needs to shed him and go be happy.
How do you know she’s not just as bad?
Im constantly bemused by the fact that people dont understand that pay scales tend to follow the cost of living. "If i move to a lower COL area i will get paid less!" Yeah, thats the way it works.
You’ll be complaining about the next state when you move. ✌️
If you’ve been miserable for 17 years, the problem is YOU not the state borders that you live within.
Usually I would agree with that statement but California really sucks.
Have you been to California? That’s like saying complaining about the heat in hell is a you problem.
@@chet9128 no it doesn’t any if you who say it does means you don’t live here or you’re an idiot that makes blanket statements and fixates on problems. Usually you are the problem
Unless it's California. That states makes everyone miserable.
I get the impression that this guy would be miserable anywhere. He’d just complain about different things and blame different people for his dissatisfaction with his life.
Other than maybe prison or an abusive childhood, it doesn’t take 17 years to get yourself out of a miserable situation.
Definition of energy vampire right here. If he keeps this up the wife will get fed up and leave him 😅
Leave him for a BBC in Georgia and end up on Blacked ;)
Oh he’s getting divorced. Dude is overly emotional and willing to sacrifice his wife’s good position for himself. Bro calm down and try getting a new job first before.
He's complaining about his job. But he also complained about his wife going from $90 to $30. Not hard to see what the issue is.
90 to 30 is heart wrenching
Maybe Josh is the toxic work environment?!
Wherever he goes, he will be there!
Show: And, your wife?
Josh: Ahhh, who cares.
LOL. Yeah, that's kind of what I was hearing also in this call.
I live in the same metro as the caller. California has wacky ideas and laws, but the weather, things to do, and job opportunities are the best here by far.
And where else have you lived?
Polluted ocean, crazy people, bums
@@ddawe31635 I lived in California for over 30 years. Now I live in a conservative red state. I like both. Red state is good for the quiet life, raising a family. California has more to do, more fun, better in your 20s. Both have their pros and cons.
And Georgia sucks dude ....lived in 3 different countries in Georgia one worse than the other! Plus who wants to live in a state that supports Moscow MTG??? WHAT AN EMBARRASSMENT SHE IS, TO GEORGIA AND THE USA! 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
Lol, There are way fewer job opportunities now. All the large companies are leaving. It is a Shithole.
Why can't he just change jobs in the same city? Also a great idea, "I'll move to a lower paying jobs so I pay less taxes!" You know what else that means? Less NET money too!
He sounds unhinged. A person like this can move to Alaska, Connecticut, Mississippi, Georgia and he could be unhappy there too. 17 years??? There’s something else happening here…I feel sorry for his wife. He’s a complainer big time. 10 years of misery bc of a pension? Bruh please
Is it REALY just the state? I had a friend who lived in Milwaukee and he contantly talked "i can't wait to get out of Milwaukee!!!" He moved to Orlando months later. He moved out Orlando just 6 months later.
California is a difficult state but the lifestyle and everything in Georgia is totally different. I don't think you guys won't like the change. Moving from the West Coast to the East Coast is hard. I live in Florida and don't like it. I lived in Arizona and loved it.
It's, it's a totally different world on this side of the country.
I bet I can tell why he doesn’t get along with his boss.
I've met many folks this year who've moved to NC from CA, and they were able to sell their home in CA, and pay off their home here in NC due to the cost difference.
Parts of NC are getting crazy expensive. Cary
@@KyleSKiser They drive up prices for the rest of us. At least that's what happened in Tennessee.
Then they bring their politics and mess up another state. They create the very thing they’re trying to escape. It’s the same thing with the illegals. Escape the 3rd world, only to create another one.
Foster to adopt? Just equals money from the state to equal what he was making in California. He’s not interested in freaking kids! He wants money! He said it himself he’s emotional; foster children already go through a tough time. He’s just going to add onto their stressors of being a foster child. Children do not belong with him that’s for sure! He low-key sounds like he’s ready to go postal! LBVS.
I know, this is so gross. He's close to retirement, but wants to adopt kids? He’s not thinking of his wife or these kids.
You didn't know that's what fostering has become? Speak to your local DA on foster kids who commit auto thefts cause the foster parents could care less. People don't care, but shocking whenever you remove morals and values from society. Wow. Shocking. Wow. Wow. Maybe vote harder next time?
I'm 31 now but I've often thought about fostering or foster to adopt in the future. Especially older kids! They need love too! People forget about them. Perhaps once I'm in my 40's and have my own home by then. I've never been interested in pregnancy but I love kids. My mom was sadly raised in several different foster homes. I'd even foster if it meant no assistance money, it just saddens me how many kids are currently in our system waiting for good homes.
I’m from California, hate California. The Army stationed me there TWICE in the WORST part of California. Life is what you make it. Josh, you might be your problem!
I live in GA. There are nurses here making $150k and higher.
I agree. Caller is blowing smoke.
Sounds like he watches the news too much... Most days I couldn't tell you what state I'm in if I didn't already know.
I lived in Ca for decades. People rarely complained about taxes until they started giving it to homeless and addicts. People don’t want to pay taxes for that.
You don't care about homeless families?
@@ryder4508 I do make them get jobs.
@@joesmith3590 You assume those people don't have jobs?
@@ryder4508 most don’t I see them every day. You can rent a room anywhere with a job. Drugs are more Important.
This guy thinks a "geographic fix" is going to solve his supposed problems. CA to GA is a huge cultural shift. I retired from the State of Tennessee, it was a toxic work environment the last few years, but I like the retiree benefits. He needs to think long and hard before he gives those up.
I live in California. I feel for Josh. Not leaving because of the job, but if I got an opportunity to leave. Bye Bye California. High Tax, High Crime, High Homeless. High Grime. That's CA.
That's the opposite side of the country from where the wife's family lives. Also, what if they move to GA and they hate it there? He needs to find a job in a state closer to CA.
Just moved from Washington state to Virginia Beach.. !! Best decision ever .
His wife is a nurse. She should be able to pull in way more than $30/hour.
Much more. Such a versatile career.
Depends.
But not $90.
@@Cocked-Lockedprobably a metro area. Like Kansas City or St. Louis
Sounds like he wants to move to the southeastern united states. All wages are lower there.
He called hoping they would support his ideas and he could tell his wife they said to do it.
I feel his pain. I was stuck in the Seattle area, which has changed for the worse over the years. I was able to retire and escape to Boise, and life is so much better now.
Wow, RN in CA makes $90 hr???
I was an RN for 23 years and am currently an NP.
She makes way more than me.
Still complains living in CA and hates everything?
Get the hell out then!
There are plenty of people who would love to take your place!
Nurse here in NorCal make $150-350k a year with OT. It’s crazy
@@pjsaki4797 no way, that's more than some doctors.
@@Desertbiker617, a lot of nurses here in California work per diem and work at a fulltime position and on call on a second. Most hospital RNs are unionized and they make a lot of OT and DT. Its pretty crazy which is why a lot of RNs will fly in from different states and work for a couple of weeks and then fly back home for a month
Happiness in life is what matters. If you make less money but you are happy and can pay your bills then who cares?? Live your life while you have it. It is extremely short.
Life is short. Happiness is important. Money is not Happiness.
Yes it is
@@robertcurry9413explain?
Josh needs to transfer to Georgia alone. Stay for a year and see if it really is what you want. You can fly home once a month. If it’s everything you thought it was going to be, then your wife can move. What does it matter if your house is paid off in 4 years if you hate California? Sell it after a year and buy a house of your choice in Georgia. I’m a Southerner that’s lived in CA for decades. I hate it until I visit “back home” and can’t wait to get back “home” to California.
Starting pay for a nurse in Georgia is about $30/hr. Experienced nurses can earn more, and those in specialized areas can earn even more. And while the pay will probably be 50% less, taxes are less, congestion (at least outside of Atlanta) is less, but ... the humidity is a beast in summer. Be prepared.
Come on man! It’s Sacramento! Of course it sucks! Come down to the Central Coast. Tons of nursing jobs, perfect weather and I’m sure you have enough equity to purchase a small house around here.
Totally agree. The Central Coast area is a great quality of life.
Georgia has travel nursing positions. I am doing one of them now. :) I've also seen staff RN positions paying up to $50hr depending on the area in GA.
Why would a couple decide to “FOSTER” a child under an already BAD situation? Spare a child’s exposure to your problems. Fostering is a very demanding and stressful commitment. You are not the man to do this charitable endeavor. Don’t drag unsuspecting victims into your unhappy life.
California taxes are high! Move to Nebraska! Our property taxes are nearly $5,000 a year for a $300,000 home. We bought a new truck, taxes on that were $5,000. Nebraska is the tax me state!
Try buying a house, gas for your car, groceries, utilities in California. You have ZERO perspective. Or come to MN and get bent over on income tax and sales tax.
Would expect taxes to be closer to 10k on a 300k home 5 sounds great.
Knew it was California before I even clicked 😂
I'm ready to bring on Escape from LA and quarantine this people from the rest of us.
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Anymore it is a huge toss-up between California, Oregon, and Washington.
@garagehobbies The problem is that none of those states are well run.
Both OR and WA have major freeway problems. The states don't widen their freeways, and traffic has insane choke points in both states.
It’s the Ramsey show… you think they’d ever air a call about hating Texas lol
I think he will be unhappy wherever he goes.
California isn’t cheap and has its problems but he’s stayed 17 years? He’s not going to suddenly become happy in another state. I know too many people who have moved thinking that would happen and they’re usually trying to get back within a couple years.
Sounds like he works with me. I’m also a federal employee in SoCal. I feel the same way.
His house is probably way more expensive than other places in the country. If he moves, he could probably pay cash for his next house in a cheaper area.
Yes. He said that he's only 4 years from having his house paid off. Which means he probably has massive equity. He could sell it and pay cash for a house somewhere else and still have a bunch left over.
i live in CA, hopefully one day ill move. but i understand that taking a paycut would be worth it. ive looked at other states and see how much lower taxes are, cost of living, gas, car registration, etc. people are under the illusion in CA that having that high dollar is that great when so much of our paychecks go to taxes and the crazy costs of stuff here
Ok, Im putting two and two together here. He says he is a federal government employee (at the beginning). Later alludes to doing travel agency work. He is a GSA employee. There is no reason he cannot stay w GSA in a different position. And most if not all of this kind of work is done remotely. To keep his marriage, and if they agree to leave California, he should let his wife pick where to move to. They each can work wherever.
He sounds like he's the problem. The fact that he seems to have gotten himself into a situation where he has to get out yesterday, is saying something! And pushing the move to somewhere his wife hates...!!! He's almost retired, house almost paid. Dude shut up, get a hobby, and find gratitude!
*And thinking of fostering kids to makeup income confirms he's trash!!!*
Leaving family is not a good idea. I know, I moved across Canada and regret it. Do not leave family. You have 7 more years, suck it up or get a new job.
When you leave, California will audit you a few times on the way out. Trust me.
Literally “trust me bro”
Yep
Lol. Tony is the butthurt reply guy.
Audit you out? Care to explain?
@@billmelater6470 Tony 100% works for the California Franchise Tax Board. 😂😂
I feel where he’s coming from. It can be soul-crushing if the environment you’re in day in and day out is toxic. You can have gratitude for the good things in your life and still want to live and work in a place more in line with your core values. Sometimes you wind up in a place temporarily that is an energy suck because of things that are out of your control. Sometimes it’s in your control and just due to bad decisions. Either way, wanting to change it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s an ungrateful complainer. It just means he needs to make some decisions (and maybe some sacrifices) to change the situation if it’s important to him.
You will have a bigger problem once you move besides the money. Your wife will hate you.
Why would his wife go from $90/hr to $30? He really isn't good at getting the math right.
I don't mind people moving from CA elsewhere but for the love of everything stop bringing CA prices with you. Especially for housing.
Take a vacation to the area you are planning to move to.
I'm in the same exact boat, living in CA and hate my boss. Leaving next month, can't stand this place 😂. Already knew it was CA
You'll be in a different state, so you won't need as much money. Don't worry about that. 401ks can be transferred - no loss.
I never heard how much he makes and what type of job he does, definitely need more info so we can provide and accurate input.
Does this guy talk at 2-3x speed regularly?
3.5x
Just get a new job.
For $90 an hour, I would not move.
The wife will not lose her 401k.
Will cost of living be 66% lover?
Sounds like the problem is his job. And not really California.
LOL this caller annoyed me in the first minute of hearing hime rant. Stop blaming a state for your unhappiness and change what you can with consideration to your wife.
Ride it out. I wouldn't leave with only 7 years left until pension eligible
I took it to mean he works for the federal government but he was talking so fast i may have missed it. If federal it doesn't matter where he lives. Depending where he lives in california and where he moves to in georgia, he will take a pay cut due to the cost of living adjustment which will ultimately affect his high 3 and thus his pension but it probably won't be major difference.
The way he sounds is probably why his boss hates him and probably his coworkers too
He likely got in trouble for not referring to a co-worker as “they/them,” cause he speaks so fast, it sounded like “ze/zi.” When he tried to explain it to HR, he kept making the same mistake because he was speaking too quickly.
He doesn't need to leave the state. He can just get another job. What a whiner.
California is truly and awful state to live in, there are parts of it that are like a 3rd world country. But people want to stay because of the weather. The people that cite the weather in most cases, spend the vast majority of their lives indoors. Climate control exists and is way cheaper than living in California.
His lifestyle doesn’t let him leave. He can’t take his and his wife’s high paying (salaried) wages here to another state which will charge you less.
His wife would definitely hate moving to most of the states this guy is thinking. Especially when she find out they are not as hospitable to worker rights as California is
@@Evirthewarrioror just maybe some policies are good? California is really good with worker protection laws buddy. Once you move out of state you see how bad other states exploit their workers
@@hawkeye3938That's Bull. There is absolutely NO worker protection in California. None.
@@hawkeye3938 Californians are being exploited by their government in taxes way more than they are by their employers. The cost of living absurdly high in California, Just on housing, you are paying over twice what you do in other states. The Median home price in California is like 900k now with the median size 1790 square feet?
I just bought a 1817 square foot new construction house for 350k, right outside of Charlotte NC.
We have about 150k in household income. So it isn't like we are taking a massive hit on living standards.
Victim mentality. You’ve wanted to leave for 17 years, everyone around you is horrible? Maybe it’s you.
California does not suck!!! The politicians do!!!
Who elects the politicians?
@@wolfie71231 California voted against same sex marriage twice!!! But the politicians passed it anyway. Keep believing everyone in Cali is with the agenda
@@wolfie71231 who elected Kamala? Do you know anyone who voted for her in the primary?
I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA. I LOVE ❤️ THIS STATE !!!! You must be Jealous
My family has been in SF since WWII. I agree! Sacramento is not all of CA.
As they say, don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
you may not be aware of the leftist politics. very evil. and in charge of the CA State government …not good.
No one is jealous of your poop map, chill.
Bahahahhhahahahhahaaha
There are no easy answers here. If his timeline were two years (and not seven), I would tell him to stay. Whatever he does, he and his wife have to be on the same page. Otherwise, their marriage won't survive. Also, where was he going with the adoption thing? I fail to see how adopting a child would address any of his problems--in fact, the increase in their household expenses would only make thing worse.
How did no one suggest to get a different job in California....
They did at 4:35
California is a very expensive place to live but it has the best weather
These two offer so little support for this caller. Rachel only repeats what the callers say. I would like to have had Ken or John on this call.
Dude, he asked an emotional question. What kind of advice should they have given? Be logical.
Absolutely true. Finance is 20% numbers and 80% emotions/personality. These two lack insight in this call. If Rachel was not Dave's offspring she'd never be sitting at that desk. The man is trapped, I can hear it in his desperation and he really needs some guidance. i hope he goes to a professional financial counselor and therapy session to get some insight where to focus his attention rather than on being trapped in his work situation. Rachel failed again.
@@MrDisneyCollector true. They dropped him on this call. He really needs some direction not Rachel just repeating what he said.
Money is not the problem, this guys "toxic" job is not the problem, this guys attitude is the problem, he needs to change his headspace towards an attitude of gratitude.
Why is it the state of California’s fault that your wife would make less money if you moved somewhere else? This guy is all over the place. He just can’t figure anything out so he blames it on everything else.
Things should Revolve around HAPPINESS. A fine Balance has to be made between Economy and Emotions.
Hates the state yet he loves his salary and what it provides. I think this is where John says “this is not about the state”…
No, it’s where he says “aRe YoU SaFe??”
Man’s emotional. Sounds pathetic with his whining. He waited this long. Poor planning on his end.
georgia aint no paradise
Beef farts smell the same there. I like the smell of my beef farts
His boss is Newsom
Nope he said he's a federal employee not a State employee.
Two of my wife’s coworkers (with families) moved a thousand miles away. They both moved back. Life isn’t always greener on the other side. For years I used to think, “Win the lottery and move to Colorado.” I’ve been there many times since 2015 for fun, family and daughter’s college. My Colorado fantasy ended long ago. No thanks.
Colorado is like Cali now - beautiful and expensive and drug infested. Both are lovely to visit, would never live there.
This guy is full of BS.. He is a Federal employee located in CA but wants to move to GA and stay working with the same agency. You know what's going to happen? His locality pay will be reduced because it is based on his geographical place of employment. He won't be able to keep his CA locality pay; it will go down to the GA locality pay. That's how it works, dude.
The way I heard it, he knows that and accepts that. It's his wife's income he is most concerned with.
I'm a native Californian, who moved out of state in 2020 largely for political reasons. While I don't regret my decision at all, I think the caller is placing too much emphasis on the perceived benefits of leaving California. Yes the cost of living in California is high, but wages are also high. Depending on where you relocate and your chosen occupation, you may find that your standard of living decreases by moving to a red state. Sometimes it's in your best interest to accept the good and the bad.