UNBIASED Review of Temu Woodworking TOOLS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2023
- NO SPONSORSHIP to skew my views.
TOTAL GARBAGE - or Are there GEMS?
TEMU tools are here and they need to be tested. So in this weeks video I decided to buy 15 tools for £140 of my own money and gave them a test.
So many of these videos just open them and dont test them so here are a few that I have tested.
For a comprehensive list of all my tools - www.start-making.com/tools
A few links to the tools you have seen
PICA FINE PROPELLING PENCIL - I got the one with the H leads to avoid breakage.
UK LINK - amzn.to/48Q8cds
US LINK - amzn.to/48Q6bhs
OTHER PICA PENCILS
PICA PENCIL - UK LINK - amzn.to/42wLKnv
US LINK - amzn.to/3vQXTaz
PICA REFILLS - UK LINK - amzn.to/3S8pj2Q
PICA BUNDLE - US LINK - amzn.to/42dlPAZ
NOT BENT MARKING SQUARE
UK LINK - amzn.to/46afCqC
US LINK - amzn.to/48CciX1
Starrett Combination square - UK LINK - amzn.to/3vUSKOI
US LINK - amzn.to/3SAHU9h
Self Centring Drill bits (Cheap) - UK LINK - amzn.to/42epP40
US LINK - amzn.to/49dcCuS
(BOSCH Expensive) - UK LINK - amzn.to/3ue2F1d U US LINK - amzn.to/42iCGCd
All UK links are for products that I have used. US links are the closest I can find. They are recommendations made from my experience, your may differ.
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Let me know if there are any tools you have bought from TEMU that you recommend.
Ok so i did buy one the grinder discs that could cut your leg off there not bad tbh bought tape its accurate sholder square which is actually square small 4" clamp works not bad amd sommit else can't rember can't be that good and would say there resin moulds look pretty good. Ps they do offer refunds. 👍🏴
foam brushes a good price and work well. i bought the painting cones and they are great. i’ve bought some measuring stuff and they are good.
@@DebsHill1 yea tape a got is pretty good and accurate and for 3 quid can't complain. Gonna get the triangles I'll check out brushes.
None at all. But not because I dislike their tools, but because Aliexpress sells the exact same items at 2/3rds the price. As always you get what you pay for. If you can't afford to throw your money straight down the drain you shouldn't buy 'oriental' tools. That way you win some and draw even on the others.
@@PhoenixRising-nm1he I didn't no about the Ali express thing. If I've ever seen there stuff it's usually been slightly more expensive or says won't ship to UK. I think things like there silicone moulds and stuff they really shouldn't/can't mess up should be ok.
Loving the shop walls! It's awesome to see how well your shop has come together. Yea, I've steered clear of Temu myself, glad I watched the vid, thanks for putting it out there!
Hi Marcus. Thank you bud. Great advice on the intro too. Thank you.
That's the most honest Temu video I've seen yet. Thanks.
Wow, Thank you bud. I see a lot of sponsored ones and its not that I am against it in most cases but with TEMU I think what you receive is so hit and miss I would feel bad being an affiliate at the moment. Though, some stuff is great if you, like me, are on a budget and woodpecker is out of reach .
The screw extractor needs a hole drilling in for them to work there more ment for bolts
Darren, you are right. I wish I had seen this when they arrived. My error entirely , though I do think that the metal is sub par for the job, very soft.
@@startmaking1 I noticed another thing- it actually seems like the scew extractor IS spinning the screw head anticlockwise, but apparently the head just snapped off.
Better designed screw extractors are usually double-ended, with a spot drill bit on one end and the reverse thread on the other.
oh really. I didn't see that. The head definitely didn't snap off my one, was a pain to get the board off the bench as it was still screwed down.
My next tool search has begun. Thank you
Mark!! It’s NOT you! You are amazing to spend your money to help us - so that we learn not to waste ours!! You are commended, my friend. Thank you for your dedication to your craft. We are the beneficiaries of your dedication!
You are kind as always Andie. And that was my genuine aim in this video. Save a few other the cost and annoyance. Happy for people to make their own choices but information is key in most areas of life. Fun video to make despite the disappointing bits lol.
@@startmaking1also, I see sheeeeedloads of videos of people crying about “no instruction”, or they comment about no instruction in a 1 star review of the product. The thing is though - I think the description on how to use it is on the description of the product. When you initially look at the listing of a certain product it shows you what it is and how it works and then you buy it. So when you get it, presumably you already seen in their instructions/ video on the listing on how it works. 🤷♂️ I browse a lot of Chinese listings, not because I buy a lot, but because their websites works better with the suggestions (I’m talking about AliExpress, not overpriced temu lol). By looking at their suggestions at the bottom of the listing - I find out about loads of products I didn’t even know existed, or I needed lol
Don't want to get all ethical as its not really the place but there is always a human cost behind stupidly cheap stuff. Great video though Mark. Always like your honesty.
You know John, you are spot on and I am happy that Jon over at Lincoln street woodworks is doing a video on a more in depth look at the effects. He will smash it.
This is true. Also true for Amazon.
And an environmental cost for tools to fly round the world to be binned.
Sadly the presenter is hooked on Amazon and encourages his dopey followers to do the same. Amazon destroy jobs, the high street, the countryside and the economy of Britain.
Who me. Not hooked, I just dont have any actual shops close enough to me to visit and buy the tools. And you would not believe how many people ask me for links to the tools that I use. So I put amazon links into every video to save me having to reply and search out a link every time.
Another thing to keep in mind- ALWAYS use the same tape measure/measurement tool that you start a project with!
You will fill that not all measuring tools are exactly the same.
This is great advice.
“I wonder if the free stuff would’ve turned up in one piece” spat my tea out at that one 😂 good video - you’re a braver man then me ordering from Temu!
My inbox has not forgiven me for ordering. at least 5 spam emails a day now where I had none before.
Actually, from other creators that have gone that route, the packaging is a lot better.
I thought that too. What a fix
@@startmaking1 yeah i get a lot of that too, and it's the only thing i hate with Temu
Another good honest assessment Mark. I’ve recently done something very similar and tried my luck on a number of Temu tools. I had to laugh as you found pretty much the same thing as I. Some of it is great for the price and will do but the real cheap stuff is just that. I’m waiting to fit my cheap router lift so I’ll hold final judgement. It really is hit and miss and son constantly reminded of the old adage, buy cheap buy twice. Keep going with the channel matey, I’m always happy to see your updated video footage. Regards, Wayne
Seems that there is a pattern emerging with these TEMU videos. I will be interested to see some of the more big ticket items. Seems Bang good is doing ok for them.
A proper "honest Bob" job. 😊
Also noticed you have boarding up now, workshop coming along nicely 😀
Thank you Peter. Boarded, not well, but boarded and nearly finished painting. Wanted to get the interior video out but the electrician has been slightly delayed and that is the very last bit. Unless I put a second floor in. Which I should . we will see.
Loved your honesty!
Thank you Kathryn
Nice vid, Mark. I’ve got a few things from Temu and have been mildly pleased, but then, I’ve only gone for some cheap items that I wouldn’t have minded if they didn’t work out. I’ve been pleased with my right angled brackets and pencils but I’ve not risked some of the pricier items. I like the look of the T-square with the marking holes. I’ve been after one of those for a while so might go get me one of them.
Looking forward to some workshop setup videos in the near future…?
Thank you Roger. That is the way to go if you are testing the water the painted squares being a great example. I really did like the T square and the way it is made, I dont think it can easily arrive not square. So it should be a safe bet. Interior is nearly filmed and edited. Maybe out in 3 weeks. Then the workbench and layout I think. though, I have not decided the layout fully yet.
The screw extractors are for bolts, you drill a small hole and then insert the extractor. for the screws there is a different model.
You re right.
@steinaringvaldsen5286 yup, that's my bad. But if I give a few laughs in the process then I say it was worth it.
Never would I use that website, never.
Im beginning. to feel that way as I am getting a serious amount of junk in my email since then
@@startmaking1 to stop it just unsubscribe
For the concealed hinge jug (last Item), the jig settings for the cabinet clip appear to be correct. The usual approach is to fasten the mount to the cabinet using the slotted holes first to allow you to set uniform gaps etc, then drill for the round holes once alignment is finalised, and install those screws to lock in vertical alignment. When you placed the mount on the board simulating the cabinet, you appeared to be aligning the round holes on the mount with the marks on the simulated cabinet, thus setting the mount too far back. I have purchased a fair amount of odds and ends from Temu since they launched in Australia, and their packaging can be somewhat haphazard, but the only things I have had come through (US to Australia) that were damaged were some plastic extruded weather seals that had originally been straight but were rolled into a circle to ship, and were subsequently squashed flat during shipping, they retained kinks once straightened rendering them useless as they would drag in places and not seal in others.
I was about to say the same... I hope you figured it out but you used the wrong holes on the hinge bracket, the slotted ones allow fine tuning and then to lock it in place put 2 screws through the holes you used...
Thank you, you are spot on.
Brilliant….the last two, I’m away to purchase but elsewhere! Thank you.
I am cross with myself for not getting a jig for both of those jobs before. 2 jobs I have made more painful with the wrong tools. And a little lacking skill and patience I guess.
Kia Ora Mark..
Been down this road as well and yes tested them out and yes like some and ok for me at home..
Looking forward to more 😊
Kia Ora bud. You are spot on, some work well. Im not totally gutted with the experience. But I do wish I could get rid of the spam in my inbox that keeps pouring in. Oh well.
Had a few bits from Temu , I’ve been quite lucky but it won’t be my go to.
Good video and advice 👍👊
I think that is my take on it too now. wont do a lot of shopping there.
Great video as always Mark that seems to be how it goes buying tools off that site so ok but some just trash thanks for sharing your experience. Can’t wait to see what you do with the inside of the new shop .
Hi Jim. Seems there is a trend on TEMU .
That was a lot of fun. Thanks!
THankyou
3:25 “I hope you can see this” 😅 cracked me up, thinking we can see that from the moon 😅👍🏻
There is a slight bend right?
Pause at 06:45 - lol. Sums up the way you were feeling...but being honest, if you go into Temu stuff knowing what to expect and don't go for the 'precision stuff', then it's reasonable, but the old phrase, "buy cheap, pay twice" may even end up at 'Thrice or more' with Temu :)
Glad you're having fun! Keep up with the excellent videos!
YEs , yes it does. I did have fun though, even though it was not worth what I paid. Or maybe I broke even, hard to say. But the fun has to count for something.
I've seen a rash of these temu videos lately. Great to see one that hasn't affiliated with temu. Brilliant video. 🎉
Sadly I was late to the party as I had planned this a while ago. I am overall glad that I didn't accept their business offer.
I've bought a lot of #2 phillips head bits and bit holders and have had no issues. I bought the dowel hole jig, but I haven't used it yet, so I'm so glad to see it actually works. After seeing the t-squares and the center finder I will be buying them. Thank you
You are more than welcome. I figure I broke even all told.
HI. The Jig for marking up cabinet door hinges.... you use the hinge portion of the jug to mark out the rear most screw positions only. So it's forward holes in jig = rear holes in hinge. Your rear holes float as they are slotted for alignment. You never drill the front holes until you align the hinge
That all makes perfect sense. I figured it was me rather than the jig.
Thanks!
Wow Andie. I dont even know where to start. You watch all of my videos, post lovely, constructive and uplifting comments and now this. I am staggered. And I would say speechless but that is not something I have ever managed lol. From the bottom of my heart I thank you.
Lovely honest video, thank you :-)
you are most kind. thank you
They seem to have lots of issues, but I’m so tempted by their 12 piece chisel set and cutting board juice groove router jig that both keep showing up on my Facebook feed. They’d be for occasional cutting boards and a beater set of carpentry chisels, but they’re likely not worth the headache from the looks of things.
Thanks for doing these kinds of cheap tool videos
they are a love hate really. so far I have only used one maybe two of the things I bought, oh and the painters triangles.
Good review Mark, I would say that your experience mirrors mine except recently I have bought some gear from Amazon that had to be sent back because the quality was poor (polite word inserted instead of the 4 letter one I wanted to use). One thing that a quick skim through the comments doesn't seem to have been picked up - the screw extractors. These were developed, I believe, for the engineering industry a long time ago. We were certainly using them in the late 70s. The demo you showed a clip of was utterly wrong. What should happen is that a small pilot hole just larger than the extractor tip is drilled down the offending screw or bolt. The extractor is then used with a hand tap wrench- not a drill. You could use a drill once you have the extractor started but only on a very low speed setting. I can't speak to the quality of Temu's extractors but it was not a fair test of the technique. However, they do not always work when used properly and if you are using woodscrews there are quite a few ither techniques that may prove more effective. I would provide links but at my age I cannot remember exactly what you tube channel I saw them on. Keep it up.
Thank you Michael. you re absolutely correct and I have since learnt my error. They are still poor quality but I did not give them a fair test as per their intended use.
Hey up Mark , the clamping squares.!? :- make your own from scraps of plywood, the rest is subjective , if you’re buying for a one off job that you’ll never use again so long as it works why not, I’ve been using a triton tracksaw that I bought to fit a kitchen worktop and it’s still going strong, 8 years later.!! I’ve bought other tools just to salvage materials and hardware from them because they were just so cheap..!!on the other hand I bought a Bosch heat gun to strip a painted floor!! With constant use I burn’t out two of them which were replaced with a raised eyebrow at the shop I bought it from.!!! Not something you can easily do when they come from China..!!! also furniture auctions for exotic wood, !!! You can buy old solid wood tables And cabinets and strip them for boards for a fraction of the raw material cost, …. If you can buy it at all…. Another great vid..👍💪🏻💪🏻
Hi Ian. I actually did this a while ago and you are right, they are easier to use than the ones I got in this lot. What great advice in the rest of the comment. especially the wood. Very good advice. Thank you
Thanks for this great review, Mark. Having watched a few review videos of Temu purchases, I'm wary of them, as it does seem a very hit or miss experience. Now I would say I've bought the odd thing from China, through Amazon, and generally been very happy. Got a couple of featherboards which were really well made. I'll admit that when you pulled out the bent square, I had to laugh. But obviously it's not funny when you've spent £12 on it. I hope you can return it (and the others). I'd say if it's something where quality and accuracy is important then it's probably better spending a bit more.
Thank you James. Wary is sensible for sure. I guess it is not Chinese builds I want to avoid, as like you I have many through amazon. It is the delivery. I did chuckle too about that square. I will keep it as a warning to the other tools not to mess up when I use them.
I ordered a 24" miter slot and insert, and 18" sliding insert, 2 sets of the short inserts with screw holes, and the "nifty" little red 3D speed square. I had very low expectations, but here are the problems I had: My expected delivery window was 04/30/24 to 05/07/24, however, about 24 hours after placing my order I got an email telling me "Your order is confirmed - it being prepared for shipping" and "78.3% are ≤ 10 days. Get a $5.00 credit within 48 hours if delivered after May 7" I got it 05/03/24. That's not the problem. They had put everything in a plastic bag. AND, the only things in the bag were the little red speed square and the short miter slot feet. The bag was ripped and the longer items were gone. After contacting them, they credited my money back and gave me a “20% off coupon” The little speed square was in two pieces that screwed together and not square. The marking on it are a joke. The miter feet fit the bandsaw slot fine but I don’t trust them.
Wow, that is a terrible experience. Well, apart from the quick refund and coupon. I am finding that they are very good at returns. But not so good at the delivery and the quality. I guess that is why the first is the case. I am tempted to try another batch but it is such a gamble.
Thanks for dropping the coin so we didn't have to Mark. Hey "cheap and shiny"! That's my nickname.
Lol, thank you. PS hope the new shop is still looking as fine as it did in the last video. Jealous of that back drop.
That’s some good advice - For the tools you rely on: Spend it once. Spend it well.
I’ve seen other reviews on TEMU tools and they are all fairly similar. Don’t expect good packing or instructions and I have yet to see anyone receive a square that was not bent like yours.
Looking forward to seeing the completed shop with a tour and seeing you Start Making stuff!!
Yeah, all the videos agree, it's a gamble. I am not overall unhappy, probably call it a break even as I like the jigs and marking items but I wont go there for my regular tools.
Excellent video and process. thank you. Their work pants are pretty reasonable. Therapy equipment is a bargain also...
Thank you. Much appreciated. I actually need more work pants. good advice,
Great video, thank you, however..... you know the old adage, you get what you pay for!! Also I personally would not trust a combi square,(yep not even a Starrett) as a reliable square. Thanks again, looking forward to the next workshop vid, keep 'em coming! Cheers
Thank you Paul. you are right. That said, I have checked that combo square frequently as I was very sceptical too. I could not believe that it would stay square with the movement etc. So far, not missed a beat. I do get your point though and have been planning on getting a medium sized machinists square for a while now.
I know that starrett make exceptional tools but that is impressive,I bought a Benchdog square last year, expensive but spot on and British made! Thanks again,@@startmaking1
I am starting to take a look at Bench dogs items for that exact reason . And I am possibly planning a bench dog workbench. If I can bring myself to decide what to make.
I'm curious, did you try to return/get refunds on the broken/bent bits? My experience is they're more than happy to give your money back (as store credit instantly, or back to your payment method in a couple days) for things that got damaged in transit.
No, I decided against it and instead have kept them as a warning to myself. Sounds silly but I dont want to do any more transactions for a little while . See if I have any bank issues first.
This has been my experience. Some tools are great. Some are absolute junk, but they’ll refund with no hassle.
@@RGormanJr And so far with me, didn't want it shipped back! They just tell you to recycle or donate it.
They refund no questions asked and they let you keep the faulty or broken part.
Also for any aluminium ruler you can easily bend it back to shape.
Mine same came straight as an arrow in a duffel bag!No nicks nothing.
Most of their shipping handlers pay attention to such parcels it is the last mile end of the line independent courrier companies that mess up since they do not seperate their parcels and you get heavy ones on top of these hence the damages.
I have a nicer version of those corner clamps. No bend on the connecting rods though. They are frustrating to put together during a glue up, so most of the time now I just use small squeeze clamps and boom they're on and holding my project. There are much more affordable options for corner ninety degree setups, if you like me end up using clamps to install them anyway. Milescraft 4011 8" ClampSquares - 90 Degree Corner Clamp is the way to go. imo. Another enjoyable video. Thank you.
Edit the word 'nicer' to just say 'way more expensive'. :-)
I agree on the corner clamps. I am trying them with squeeze clamps and that seems far more doable. I will take a look into your suggestion too as I find it a lot easier having the corners held when I am doing things like boxes and drawers.
You've "hit the nail on the head", to coin a phrase. Its not just DIY tools, but electrical and other every day items. Some are fantastic value for money, others are just junk. You pays your money and you take your choice/chance.
Very good point.
I have bought loads from Temu for my laser engraving and tools and out of the many items I have bought 1 item was rubbish and the rest are well made and no issues !!!
Wow. that I good odds. Well done. I am a little jealous.
The hinge jig back plate setting seeming too far back on the carcass side could be for inset hinges/doors.
Yeah, I was 90% sure that it is user error on my part. Hence the still recommending it.
Mark, keep the jersey (jumper?) going. It's almost a trademark. My biggest concern with TEMU and those like them, would be giving up any of my personal information to the CCP. Some of the tips/advice you give in this video is bordering on expert information. Another good video, thanks.
But what happens when the jersey dies. You are right about the personal info side. I hope that Lincoln streets video addresses this side as it was too much to go into a tool review video but it is very important. My inbox is full of spam since I ordered and I am glad I used a credit card for sure. And thank you as always. PS loving the channel recommends I get from you too. Much appreciated.
@@startmaking1 You're welcome. I will continue to search for good wood workers and pass their contents along. You may have to email with your new account so I can stay in touch. As always, keep up the good work. BTW, you'll have to keep the jersey even when it looks like a battle torn banner from campaigns fought long ago. Better start shopping for replacements for it while it is still serviceable.📐
Dont worry . It was my personal account not my gmail. I get all of your recommendations. I really like seeing some of the smaller channels that I miss. Great content around just going unseen. I should frame it. Though wall space is a real premium as I plan French cleats and we all know how addictive they can be. A replacement will be really hard to decide on. I would love to grab some shirts from other makers but they all seem to be US based.
24:49 I got the little Square and found that if you loosen the bolts set it against a true square while you retighten the bolts it should then be square :):)
I will give it a shot, thank you
If you count the same twist circles on both clamps when tightening it becomes square then.
Overtightening one side produces a small gap.
Great vlog as usual and very professional. I assume that you are aiming at a world wide viewer but please use the correct term for things. e.g. tapered holes in hinges and tapered screws are countersunk. Were the screws really Philips head or Pozi? (More common in the UK).
Love the new workshop. I've decided French cleat racking is the way to go for my storage. Thanks for the idea. David
Thank you David. I do try my best but I am still learning I guess. French cleat is a lot of fun. I am looking forward to making a video for that.
Amazon tends to wrap their products in paper...which Temu uses lots of plastic. Paper is better for the environment due to its biodegradability.
That is a point I didn't think about. Thank you.
The carbide burrs are dental technician quality stuff (btw, used for plastic) sold to be used with a turbine (the professional equivalent of a Dremel) - while the temu garbage is made for wood (at least it’s supposed to be for it).
Oh really. Thank you. I had no idea. Not the best comparison then. Noted. I genuinely appreciate this kind of feedback so I can learn,
They also appear to be grabbing info when you log onto their site. Apparently been fined before for ollegal data mining.
th-cam.com/users/shortspWBPRh0lDmM?si=b0ol3Mva2BEjpFfk
yes, and that is a big worry. No saving is worth that.
@@startmaking1 Except Amazon gets the SAME data.
The screw extractor works, just drill a hole on the screw head with a steel bit, then use the extractor bit very slowly in reverse to grip the inside of the screw 🙏🙏 just did it myself the other day for the first time lol
Yes, this is my error. Thank you
I was wondering if the red aluminium tools were actually woodpecker ones. I think the hinge jig is made to mount the door to the outside of the frame/carcass not the inside
100% right on the jig, my error entirely . And that makes me happy as it is pretty good quality . The red aluminium stuff is all pretty good for the money. Sure, woodpecker are amazing but they are just so pricey.
I took a picture of my faulty object filled their form and was refunded in 10 mins. Better than Amazon. I did look up the bracket template and there was a video showing use including the other side of the hinge. I guess it was a different seller.
That's good. Thank you. I will pop back on and take another look.
More good information.
Thank you Kendall.
Sweet! Just did the same thing, no real need for the tools, but I spent $40 on tools and a phone case and screen protector, lol.
EDIT: About 6 minutes in: Crap...
Oh dear.
One thing about Temu you really have to read the advertisements very closely. Temu tools are 50/50 of getting what you want.
That is so very true. Not just get dazzled by the prices.
These direct Chinese sellers can have some bargains...but because most manufacturers seem to have little to no quality control, about 20% of their items come with defects. The bad items cannot really be returned to China, and the sellers tend to play games trying to avoid a refund. It is easy to get burned.
I agree on the quality control for sure. Apparently Temu are ok for refunds. Though I dont know.
I have bought a few woodworking tools from Temu and have not had problems
Thats good to hear.
I actually really love buying tools from temu, and wish, but it is more like watching "plan 9 from outer space". I don't expect to get quality tools, but i do get to spend an afternoon laughing my ass off for way less than the cost of a movie. The fact that I get something actually useful once in a while is just a bonus.
P.s. It genuinely is a great place to get mass quantities of cheap crap . Like if you need 50 copies of something that is just a basic piece of stamped metal, temu is excellent for that. If you need like fifty quadrillion 1/4 inch square bamboo dowels, they got you covered.
I like that way ion looking at it.
If you have any kind of drill press, a scrap of wood and two bolts. You can make your own center marking jig so long as you can read a tape measure.
Great idea and if I had a drill press I would give it a shot. For now, this will have to do. thank you
@@startmaking1 A small drill press isn't very expensive, think the big box store tabletop drill press. Yes I know it isn't great for huge projects, reason I also have a hand drill but, my tabletop drill press does more than I thought it would in my shop.
A company like this WILL learn by it's mistakes and before we know it there will be Temu outlets bullying Screwfix etc. out of the market . We are already bombarded with Chinese products and we just accept it . Sad but true .
Fantastic vid. btw . Keeping us well informed and up to date, stay on it chief 👊
Very true. And thank you for your input. Much appreciated.
They won't learn. The poor shipping isn't an oversight, its a feature. They advertise extremely low prices for a reason
@@alextheonewarrior I wasn't refering to the shipping costs , it's the poor quality goods that is the issue here regardless of transporting goods , and that eon't change . Like I said we just put up with it.
You pay your money , you take your choice , FACT .
Never heard of Temu till I watched this video.
Wow, I would have thought that just being on Instagram you would have been inundated with it all.
Shame the dowel maker didn't arrive. That's the one that keeps catching my eye. Ironically, even through you didn't take their sponsorship, Temu was still the first advert 😃 I've brought some clamps and the self centering dowel joining jig. Not used them yet but they seem well made.
I bought couple cheap small 4" squeeze clamps and granted its small but works well and at 1.39 each cant complain.
Good vid as always mate. Hows the electrics in the shop doing? So we are all waiting for the what goes where video…….
@@peterjohneggleton2011 same waiting for the final reveal
mine too sadly. Cant believe they are the ads on this one. Unavoidable . Damn.
No too long now.
Kreg sells the small pocket hole jig. Also, you should use a machinists square or something non-adjustable to confirm other squares.
All true.
I purchased the 90 degree angle bracket guide for my Makita track saw rails from Tumu, $18.00. It was 1/16 of an inch off over 48 inches, and I can live with that. A friend bought the same one from Amazon for $38.00 and it was also 1/16 inch off over 48 inches. The only problem I had with Tumu was they spammed my email box with at least a dozen emails a day. I subscribed from their emails and they instantly went away and haven't returned. Will I buy from Tumu again? That just depends on if I want to price shop for something. Good review, thanks.
Sounds like the same product, and you are right, being slightly off on certain tools is fine Probably not a square but not bad on a rail over that distance. My email is ridiculous right now. So much spam.
For your items without instructions, almost everything that NEEDS them have them available on the site in a PDF.
Brilliant.
I bought a set of the corner clamps from Amazon 7.1 inches for a set of two was 37$ they’re on sale right now for 26 🤦♂️
But they were packaged very well and were a good 90
Are the screws on them a true 90. I can't tell if mine are supposed to be bent further. Sure, it helps with tightening, but it always pulls the board to the side. Cant be right. I dont think anyway.
I appreciate your honesty and I too have bought from temu but have realised that they will flood the market and eventually kill off competition then watch the pricing. Just saying !!
You are welcome and thank you for the comment. Scarily I fear you may be right.
I've always assumed that you should first drill a small hole in a stripped Phillips head screw before trying to employ an extractor.
You are correct.
19:47 is there a link for this dowel jig please? Great vid thanks
Hi Jill. I am purposely not popping links in for the TEMU tools as I am not certain about the site etc. Not enough to put my name to it so to speak. IF you want to grab one this is just a normal link to their site.
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ok thats a long link, if you are worried about clicking it, just search dowelling jig on Temu
thanks for info
Thank you Richard.
Pretty much what I expected having tested similar sites previously. My lessons - only get what you need as their only aim is to get us to waste money on what we usually don't need and always assume the quality will be dubious so consider what you are buying with that in mind
Spot on.
Personally I have had loads of stuff from them and it's all been good and I have been a joiner for 40 years did you want it wrapped in cottonwool and that's why it doesn't cost £20 for postage
Cotton wool would also be pretty useless bud lol. I just wanted the square not to be in an envelope wedged against other , non ridgid, non flat items. Not much to ask for. Look at how amazon sent there, and that came fine. I get that the postage was cheap but, honestly I would have paid more to get tools that were not bent or cracked. But then I guess they dont really care.
The tool to get the stripped screw out are called easy outs, you need to drill a hole first then use the bits....easy.
You are correct , my error here.
Ive wonder about stuff from Temu. Think I'll give them a miss from what I've seen.
Have you watched Hooked on wood's China tool series. Very good honest reviews from Dennis.
Workshop walls look good but i hope that is not the final colour. Makes it very dark inside. Paint them white, you need as much light as possible
Hi Gordon. I have watched Dennis over at hooked on wood. Love his attention to detail. I actually designed my shop draws just like his. Really inspiring. You are right about the colour too by the way. I am hoping that with more light and some wood on the wall to break it up, that it will help. All other walls are bright white, so overall it is not dark but I worry about the look on film. time will tell and I can always paint over it I guess.
I bought a small router table insert, all aluminium and very nicely made and reasonable price although I have since seen it cheaper on Temu.
Yeah, I think that the Temu price also depends on how many times you have bought there too. It's a lottery.
Oooh finally, the Temu video I have been waiting for.
Man, thanks for doing this Mark, I had my suspicion for some ot these Chinese rip off, and yout video have confirmed some of it.
Well... first of all, about the ethical side of buying stuff from a dictator/tyrant led country... I guess some of the comments already addressed it and you already respond to them... soooo, let me move on to the products.
As for the rulers, I think i have confirmed that it IS a gamble. Sometimes we get the right-on-square ones, and sometimes we got the flawed (and therefore useless) ones. You got... I believe... 2 faulty ones ?
I also have the T-60, cost me about 7.5 pound (current exchange rate), as nobody sells woodpecker squares in my country. And it works with reguler mechanical pencil (0.5mm)
As fo the hinge tool... I think you got ther wrong one...
Those hinges... there are 3 types of them.
The one in this video is the.. ummm.. let's call it "full straight" type.
There are also the "Half Bent" and the "Full Bent" ones
The "Full Straight" ones like yours is when you want the cabinet door in front of the cabinet frame.
The "Half Straight" ones is when you have 2 door/flap on the cabinet, and both have hinges on the center (I hope this is not confusing to read... basically the cabinet have 2 door/flap, and the pull handle is on the opposite end of the cabinet, so the hinges are all in the center board)
The "Full Bent" ones is when you want the door/flap within the cabinet frame, instead of on the front.
I thik the tool you bought is for the "Full Bent" ones. which is why the marking is so far behind.
The screw extractor... yeah they don't work. I bought one set, hoping to extract a fully rusted screw from an old shower holder... the extractor got strip by the rusted screw...
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Lastly... about the palstic ones...
Look... in all seriousness... whe we buy these tools from China...we are basically idirectly stealing from the inventor, and giving our money to the Dictator and supporting modern slavery...
Soooo... if w'ere gonna steal anyway... why don't we give our money to our local folks ? just a thought, please consider it.
Because... these palstics ones... the 3d design is all over the internet. And if someonw in your local area sell a service of 3D printing, you can buy it from them.
Heck I bet you that they already have the 3D files.
And the Red Scribing Rulers the T-60 and the other one in this video (and also the bent one).
The 3D printed version is suprisingly accurate.
I know because I have one.
Of course, you gotta specifically tell the 3D printer guy, that you need this tobe accurate. They will know which settings in theri machines will minimize plastic contraction and ensuring the end product is accurate
I do really like the detail that you pour into your comments. And once again I can't fault it. I definitely used dome of these tools wrong. That is on me. The hinge especially. I like your idea of the 3d printing and supporting a local business. I just need to find one in all fairness.
@@startmaking1 I'm glad you like it. Sometimes I feel like I might have too much detail and becomes boring.
I learned about the hinges the hard way too, ha ha ha.
I really hope you can find the 3D print guy soon.
Not boring to me. Always learning.
Well you get what you pay for. The triangles you could have made on your laser for almost free and the cabinet jig (along with most of my jigs) I just make them out of scrap and they work just fine.
You need to check Izzy Swan's older videos. There's some great ideas that will open your thinking on new ideas and ways to do things.
Do you think that by the time I glue the triangles and have bought the plastic that it is cheaper. Im not certain but overall I do agree. I dont like the idea of Temu, hence no sponsorship or affiliate links.
I will take a deep dive into Izzy, he is the most innovative maker I have seen so far. Thank you again.
@@startmaking1 Izzy is great but I wish he would get back to his roots like his older videos. A lot of TH-camr's that grow loose their roots. I guess some get better and some get off track. Living where I do wood is everywhere so for me it would make a lot more sense just making things justifying the time for cost. I take it as a learning experience at the same time. Plus as an added bonus I have a free jig but also a CAD file for future use. I look forward to what you will do in the new shop.
so very true on all counts. As a new TH-camr I can see why channels change. I am at a tipping point where I want to make more content but the channel is at a size where it is more than a hobby now. It has potential. But that potential means accepting things like sponsors, patreon and other income streams to mean that potentially I could consider not having my full time job backing this up. Because at the moment doing what amounts to 2 full time jobs is hard. I think it is when you make the jump to just YT that things can get lost. You suddenly become more of a TH-camr and less of a woodworker if you are not careful.
Does the longer delivery time of Temu vs Amazon detract from the cost saving?
That is a good question. In truth, this didn't take all that long to arrive but definitely longer than amazon.
A sincere congratulations Mark. You are the first “maker” of the many I follow who acknowledges that receiving free items (let alone a sponsorship), has a likelihood to influence a tool review!
The other makers (US based), all seem to believe that as long as they aren’t being told explicitly what to say by the manufacturer or reseller, (Temu for example), than they are free from influence bias when they are given gifts in the form of free items to review.
They may know how to plane a board, but they know little about psychology or journalistic standards.
I’m not bothered by influencers getting a commission, but what I find amusing is the emphasis on the fact that they earn a, “small,” commission on sales. True story, I own my own home, raised two children including paying for college, and have a comfortable retirement all paid for by 30 some odd years of making a sales commission that averaged @ 5-6%. Cheers
Hi Bill. I dont have that good a memory but I believe it was you that told me that if I get something for free that I can't be truly unbiased. At the time I was not 100% sold so I did my own test. I accepted some tools and tried to be unbiased. While I managed to speak my mind, I felt something stopping me, kind of like my conscience I guess. So if it was in fact you who was kind enough to reach out, then thank you. And as you say there is nothing wrong with working on commission so long as you acknowledge that it will affect your judgement even if not consciously. I have to say that amazon paying whatever they do, 3% maybe, soon adds up. 5 to 6% is a very nice sum to accumulate and from the sound of it, it has done you well. Though I suspect that this may be more to do with your performance rather than the percentage. Thank you again .
@@startmaking1 Thanks, Mark. It was likely me that you recall. I realize it's very tough to be a sucessful TH-camr and keep everyone happy and well fed. Thank you for your best efforts towards respecting your audience. Cheers.
It was good advice well delivered and that is priceless. thank you
As a Mechanic, mototbikes, I've had to use the left handed bolt, stud, screw, remover need to drill a hole firdt.. when they work they great but.. Ilike the self centre bits it pays to pay.. bike engines tend to be ally and you tend to have steel bolt easy to mess up and if you snap one in a bolt imposable to drill out.. this of course would be the same for wood.. Great vid as per.. Davey P.. UK @startmaking1
Thank you for the insight. You are right, I used them totally wrong. I am still a little sceptical about the thread being that soft too. But for the price I should not be shocked at all.
Hi, not seen you appear on the home page lately so it was a pleasant surprise. Now as usual I do enjoy your energy, voice tones, gestures, camera angles etc etc. A few questions for my own understanding:
We’re you judging delivery, packing and tool or just the tool? Your setup seemed to be focused on the tool yet mentioned p&p often?
Did you assume all Amazon purchases were prime and so no p&p applied or was the purchaser paying p&p? It makes a notable difference and of course the Prime fee is paid every month regardless if a tool was purchased.
You can of course get refunded (and they do!) for missing/damaged items.
Also, no Temu item comes with instructions!!
I have purchased most of what you had and was fortunate and none were damaged (other stuff was) it just comes down to where it was in the bag!
I found the pocket hole jig to be fine, the corner clamps fiddly but fit into tight places and if not 100% ‘true’ my vice and minimal pressure fixed it.
The screw together tool just needs more time to mess with and some ‘screw tight fluid stuff’ as they work loose.
The hinge jig has worked fine on the four so far, it may be I have done it all wrong of course! 😱 eek!!
Any cheap n cheerful Chinese site needs to be shopped with expectations of getting screwed , it’s the overall win I look for….£50 spent £80 of happiness a win! Be prepared to fiddle a bit with stuff and bin other stuff.
As for Temu, so far I am enjoying it very much however if one wants the really cheap deals then shop now! The money being pumped in by the massive parent company will cease/slow down as sales/mkt share grows.
Weakest part of Temu, well its delivery and that’s the bit we don’t pay for and they don’t do. I do feel like any deliveries a lot depends on your local man….. Second weakest… packaging well Temu are screwing down their 1000’s of small suppliers so hard everything is cut back hence the lack off instructions as well!
It’s all the fun of the Temu experience, as they say with gambling don’t spend more than you could accept losing!!
Enjoyed this very much……thanks
Bob
England
The home page is a hit and miss place as far as my experience goes. You may find it is because I have been doing the workshop builds and if you have not watched one of those the algorithm may have waited for a more tool or build based video to recommend to you.
@@startmaking1 I think I understand as much as it’s possible to understand the algorithm!
Any understanding of it is a bonus. I think I get it and then I get a surprise, either better or worse than expected. Im glad that I dont rely on this as a career as it is still such a gamble.
Super cheap but also consider the environmental impact of shipping trash across the globe, plus the labour ethics that you’re ignoring. These plus and the quality should mean an overall “don’t do it.”
Another great point.
One thing that I think you missed with the Ts was the precision of the marking holes
Very true. They seem to be 1mm apart . Whether they line up to the number is a good point. I better test,
about those grinding bits i rather pay premium fot he bit than the actual machine because the machines only job is to be somewhat straight in the shaft and rotate which basically cant go wrong.
while the bit is the part that does the hard work.
sure a cheap machine may be noisy and smell f burnt electronics but as long as it rotates its good enough for sure a more reputable brand may have a bit more umpf and for sure be perfectly straigt in the shaft but it depends presission reuirement on the work u wanna do with it if it is worth the extra cost or not
while a cheap bit usually stay sharp for like one cut because they cheaped out on hardening or material so its basically unusable after the first time used.
my best example is my knock of Dremel for like $30 i used for the last 10 years or so.
The bits that came with it was utter crap and got blunt about the same day doing metal work while my Dremel/Bosch bit kit i bought for about $40-45 for it still mostly going strong ten years later.
Sure some bits has broke because handling error aka brain fart or had to do something that it wasn't really intended to do but could do it knowing its probably gonna break so cant really blame the manufacturer for that one.
Could not agree more. these are simply rubbish. I have just tested some kutzall grinding balls and wow.
I bought the right angle positioning squares from Amazon ($32) and they are almost exactly the same as Temu's. Everything is the same, even the packaging, but the hole placement is different. The ones I bought have holes that are equidistant from each other. I honestly have mixed feelings about them. They have their uses. I just don't fully trust them. It is possible that I might be missing something as well.
Hard to tell isnt it. I dont trust a lot of what I bought and I guess that is the issue. Even if you get a good tool from places like these, you still dont 100% know and doubt yourself when using it. Is the saving really worth it.
Interesting. I have found there are very few tools where buying cheap is good in the long run. I figure what i need, find a quality tool that will handle the job, and then i buy the next larger / size / better tool in the line. Why? because I find I under estimate jobs from time to time and the extra capacity from buying the next size up usually saves me. And...even though the tool can be quite pricy, i know I am going to still be using it 25 years later. Oh...and cheap tools just tend to do poor jobs.
I know there are exceptions...perhaps the squares you had on this video would be such a case, but I find the exceptions to be infrequent enough that i dont want to risk it.
Agreed, but there are some jobs at the start of my woodworking journey where cheap is all I needed as I would never use the tool all that much. But you are right, if you are doing a job often, then get the best you can afford.
Alas I bought the pocket hole one. Any chance you could explain the issue with that further? You have to drill twice? Really good video though.
I'm pretty sure the issue is the type of drill bit included. It seems to be a normal bit so you would have to use two sizes to pre-drill the screw holes as well as the inset.
This is spot on. I am going to try it with my cheap pocket hole drill. The issue is that as Darlene says, you get a long, wider drill; for the main bulk of the hole and the end has around 10mm of pilot drill for the hole the screw sits in. With this kit that is what is missing , instead they give you both drill sizes and the collets to hold them and expect you to drill each hole with the 2 different sizes, unscrewing the collet each time you change. This is a lot of changing. But if it works with aproper pocket hole bit, then it could have a use. Time will tell.
Thank you both. Makes much more sense to me
Hello. Not to be to lah-de-dah, but that is not how you use a screw extractor. The extractor needs a pilot hole in which to dig in to.. and then (by hand) you extract the screw with the reverse thread. smaller screws are tricky, because you need to drill the pilot hole in the shank, without destroying it and then use a small extractor.
you are spot on. Im the wally here. So many errors in 2 mins of footage. Still not convinced about the metal quality but then for the price I should not be surprised.
P.S. I hate that the “SUBSCRIBE” saw points right into your head! Maybe raise it higher up?
I agree. Lots of changes to be made once I have finished painting. That sign has a place but not there. Thank you.
What ever did we do in the old days , Ive given up buying cheap tools on Amazon, ebay , and only buy brand names now Trend ,Bahco cause they work
Very true. I do get tempted as little too easily.
I have ordered several times from them and have had to return a couple of things. They are excellent with returns! I hope you returned the items that were damaged or bad quality
I am keeping the broken items as a warning to my other tools about what happens if they dont perform. lol
what about the dowel maker?
I may have to go back and get that as I have the spare blades now.
Concerning Chinese tools I only buy those from reputable manufacturers like Wnew, Enjoywood, Ganwei and Fonson Tools. I only buy them from sellers that I have good experience with.
Good to know the reputable ones. Thank you
I haVe the corner clamps. Mine are square. They work well.
I am very jealous.
What is the actual name/link for the red t-shaped line/distance tool please?
The small one or the larger one.
I would just like to say thanks for the recommendation of the amazon square, at last a square thats perfectly square and doesnt cost the earth.
Hi Alan. You are welcome. I hope yours is as accurate as the one I got.
@@startmaking1 its spot on, after so many disappointing failures in that price range im well pleased.
Brilliant. That is great to hear.
I love a bargain.... but some bargains are not worth it.
NEVER buy the sanding discs from there. They don't stay attached for long.
Agreed.
You're being unfairly harsh against that TEMU square. It can run a straight line around a slight corner! That's a feature you won't get elsewhere! ;)
Drain pipes sprang to mind and, I actually cut a load of footage where I tried to use it on a curve. Great minds and all that.
Great video, I think I'll steer clear of them. Sorry to be picky, but your grey painted wall doesn't work well on video. The plywood was well suited to a woodworking channel.
Good thinking David. And I am thinking the same about the grey. I will up the lighting and see what happens but the ply was also tricky as it was a little light. I may need a middle ground. I wont stop until it is right.
Surely they should replace the damaged pieces?
I think that they will but I also think that they will be good props for warnings etc and also I am not sure I want to give account details for a refund.
The T-square is straight but are the measurements on it correct?
Very good question. I believe that they are good. Bit should triple check . Thank you
the square clamps is definitely you mate.
I still wonder if it is the threaded bits. They are no where near a right angle The red aluminium bit is perfect though. Do you have these and are your threaded bits 90 degrees. Im probably to blame but if I can fix them it would be good.