It's a shame they've made the windows like 20% smaller for the next station display indicator thing. One of the best things about the trains was the large windows that curve up the ceiling a bit, but now they've been covered up. Can anyone read the train number at the front of the train though? 132? 153? Would be nice to know the actual number so we can track exactly where on the line it is instead of relying on luck to see it.
@@tuqeOf course but it's only the "next station is" mesages on there really, which you can see when pulling into any station anyway. Important update announcements that the driver might say never get shown on them. I think the main issue I was getting at though is just how much space it's taking up, the display covers like 10% of the dropped wall/covered window area, it just seems like so much window was unessesarily covered. Consiering they had the trains completely stripped out it just seems like the system was designed inefficiantly, it's just a dot matrix display. I used to repair the platform ones and they really don't take much. Thanks for the train number though railwaymedia. Will check if its nearby when im waiting for a central line train next
Their refurbing these at a fair rate, they're getting one converted every 3-4 weeks on average. I drive trucks (logistics) delivering parts for the refurbs taking place
I always find it weird how the dot matrix display on London Underground is basically just a subtitle for the announcement. In Germany it is more usual for dot matrix display to alternate between the name of the next stop, the line number/name, the destination, the exit side, and the time/date, with abbreviations being used instead of running text. Also, since about a decade already, full-color LCD screens are more popular on trains and buses here. Dot matrix has become rare and isn't usually used for new or newly refurbished vehicles.
I noticed that when I went to Germany! I think the dot matrix is being used here (and when they get round to doing the 1972TS) for reasons of cost, and because TfL wants to replace these with the 2024TS when they get the funding.
This is not permanent. In the TfL site they say that these announcements are temporarily for testing the new trains, and they’re searching for a female voice for new announcements.
I want to see what’s does it look like when Refurbished Central Line train arrives Tottenham Court Road towards the east, I guess it will be more faster than the Normal 1992 stock
Rumour has it they’re going to fit the Bakerloo line with new traction motors soon as well. They’ve already tested one with new dot matrix screens. This shows how desperate TFL are now. They’ve blown their budget on replacing the 1973 stock. Even then, only half of the line will be equipped with brand new trains to run alongside the 1973 stock for a long time to come.
Every platform on every line at every station on the system is differentiated by direction - eastbound, northbound, etc. Never understood why the addition of just that one extra word in the announcements is apparently such a problem. And the announced direction can change in synch with the direction shown on the platforms along the route eg Piccadilly line from southbound to westbound etc.
Doesn't the bound of the trains change if you're at different points? I think the Piccadilly line is north and south bound at Finsbury Park but east and west bound at Acton Town
I don’t understand why they don’t just use Sarah Parnell to voice the line she done it before but only for certain stations such as Bank, and Stratford.
Good train but already miss old announcements new one is clear and contributed to gender equality…… but boring. That’s been established. But yes cool to see something fresh that’ll keep the tfl budget in check with new trains. Hearing the traction sounds feels like some weird hybrid of Central Victoria and Circle lines
@@rossmarks7856Through a Freedom of Information request for tube announcements (which includes audio files for both the new announcements for the Bakerloo and central) contains a txt file specifying that they're temporary and they will be looking into finding a female voice over artist
The DC motors and inverters were replaced due to significant maintenance issues. Bombardier (now Alstom) is providing the MITRAC inverters (similar to the 2009, S7 and S8 stock) and ABB provided the new traction motors being built to Bombardier specs. All of that should allow the train to be more reliable, easier maintenance, allow regenerative braking, and significantly less energy consumption.
The new motors just sound incredibly cursed on those lmao. Good they're running through the core now though.
Tbh i dont have too much of a problem with them, at least the trains are more reliable now
The motors sound like the victoria line motors
@@FigureMahdavithat’s cause they pretty much are they have very similar design and are now both ac motors
It's a shame they've made the windows like 20% smaller for the next station display indicator thing. One of the best things about the trains was the large windows that curve up the ceiling a bit, but now they've been covered up. Can anyone read the train number at the front of the train though? 132? 153? Would be nice to know the actual number so we can track exactly where on the line it is instead of relying on luck to see it.
It’s unfortunate but having a display to read what’s being said is an overwhelmingly positive change for accessibility
Train 132, leading carriage 91001 and 92001
@@tuqeOf course but it's only the "next station is" mesages on there really, which you can see when pulling into any station anyway. Important update announcements that the driver might say never get shown on them. I think the main issue I was getting at though is just how much space it's taking up, the display covers like 10% of the dropped wall/covered window area, it just seems like so much window was unessesarily covered. Consiering they had the trains completely stripped out it just seems like the system was designed inefficiantly, it's just a dot matrix display. I used to repair the platform ones and they really don't take much.
Thanks for the train number though railwaymedia. Will check if its nearby when im waiting for a central line train next
@@railwaymedialondonWill 132 always be attached to this specific refurbished train?
I went to London the other week to see if I could catch one but no luck
Do you know when these run?
There’s just 1 unit. Right now it’s running on Mondays through Wednesday but that’s subject to change
@@railwaymedialondon Okay. Cheers
They may be run on the stock transfer paths in the morning and evening peaks on Mon-Thu
Their refurbing these at a fair rate, they're getting one converted every 3-4 weeks on average. I drive trucks (logistics) delivering parts for the refurbs taking place
@@yosmosonic On any part of the line?
I do love the seat moquette pattern as it reminds me of the 1940s style moquette on the former LT Standard Stock.
It was inspired the older moquettes, it does look much better than the blue one (barman I think it's called?9
Is there a timetable for when this particular train is running?
On TSW4 yes
@@flox1514 What?
@@flox1514On TSW4? There is no Central Line route on there...
This seems to run every Monday and Tuesday as train 132
Look at how quiet its departure was shame they are not more though
This is the first testing phase the whole line will be replaced by the mid-end of 2025 the main worker for this change confirmed it
I always find it weird how the dot matrix display on London Underground is basically just a subtitle for the announcement. In Germany it is more usual for dot matrix display to alternate between the name of the next stop, the line number/name, the destination, the exit side, and the time/date, with abbreviations being used instead of running text. Also, since about a decade already, full-color LCD screens are more popular on trains and buses here. Dot matrix has become rare and isn't usually used for new or newly refurbished vehicles.
I noticed that when I went to Germany! I think the dot matrix is being used here (and when they get round to doing the 1972TS) for reasons of cost, and because TfL wants to replace these with the 2024TS when they get the funding.
How do you know when these refurbished trains are running?
They won't know until he spot them
Bro isn't me
This is not permanent. In the TfL site they say that these announcements are temporarily for testing the new trains, and they’re searching for a female voice for new announcements.
It sounds the tractions motets
sound a bit like Victoria line
With the regenerative breaking it might finally cool down
It has some form of regen already. But yes maybe a more efficient form may make it cooler.
It's not going to cool down, it's just going to heat up less
I love Sarah Parnell's voice!
When do these run?
I want to see what’s does it look like when Refurbished Central Line train arrives Tottenham Court Road towards the east, I guess it will be more faster than the Normal 1992 stock
Not bad for a rare ac motor sound and a new announcement sound. When did the ac motor replaced the dc motor sound is going to do?
It's going to fix the life of the trains. The vehicles had been sick with the dc ones
@@Great_WesternTVFanHm, well maybe we have to find out if they preferred the dc motor sound in real life if that’s the only cases.
Nice video. Is there any website to track this train. Attempted a few times but never found it!
Intertube website
@@railwaymedialondon for the intertube website, is it shown as #001 or #132?
Now we can see the Refurbished trains at Oxford Circus.
How do you know when it is running?
Intertube website
@@railwaymedialondon can I have a link please
When is departed Stratford why did it sound like the s stock depart
Its due to the new motors being AC and not DC so probably the same motors as used on the s stock and 09 stock
One of the head workers for the project confirmed that they changed the engines to 2009/s stock engines for smoother rides
Rumour has it they’re going to fit the Bakerloo line with new traction motors soon as well. They’ve already tested one with new dot matrix screens. This shows how desperate TFL are now. They’ve blown their budget on replacing the 1973 stock. Even then, only half of the line will be equipped with brand new trains to run alongside the 1973 stock for a long time to come.
Every platform on every line at every station on the system is differentiated by direction - eastbound, northbound, etc. Never understood why the addition of just that one extra word in the announcements is apparently such a problem. And the announced direction can change in synch with the direction shown on the platforms along the route eg Piccadilly line from southbound to westbound etc.
Doesn't the bound of the trains change if you're at different points? I think the Piccadilly line is north and south bound at Finsbury Park but east and west bound at Acton Town
@@railwaymedialondon re-read my final sentence.
@@roglaker9353I don’t actually understand what you’re talking about
Instead of eg "This is a Central line train to ..." it would Instead be "This is a westbound Central line train to ..."
Why no west ruislip?
This particular train was scheduled to stable in Ruislip depot via Ruislip Gardens
I've heard the 2nd refurbished train won't be in service until end of this year.
It's not only two trains, all the non refurbished 1992 stocks are getting changed to refurbished and will be out around next year
who thought it was a good idea to put the s stock motors in the 1992 stock??
Amazing! Can’t wait to see one for myself! :)
Did you know the NGR trains use the London Underground LED font?
I don’t understand why they don’t just use Sarah Parnell to voice the line she done it before but only for certain stations such as Bank, and Stratford.
Good clear announcements, nice to hear
Good train but already miss old announcements new one is clear and contributed to gender equality…… but boring. That’s been established.
But yes cool to see something fresh that’ll keep the tfl budget in check with new trains. Hearing the traction sounds feels like some weird hybrid of Central Victoria and Circle lines
They are just temporary announcements and will be changed to a female voice later.
@@AmandaBjurkvist What is your source for this info?
@@rossmarks7856The new announcements are confirmed permanent
@@Daniellovesbusesandtrains That's a huge shame.
@@rossmarks7856Through a Freedom of Information request for tube announcements (which includes audio files for both the new announcements for the Bakerloo and central) contains a txt file specifying that they're temporary and they will be looking into finding a female voice over artist
Those announcements are disgusting… bring the old ones back
yup only the ac motors sound good
Sad to see the older acceleration sound is gone and replaced by something like a Victoria or S stock motor. :(
AC motors for you. More reliable and quieter.
They may be more reliable, but nothing beats the original, in my opinion.
@@frcdanoob9537 Less power consumption aswell
Personally I prefer the sound of earlier generations of AC motors, like on the 1996 Stock or the German Class 423 trains.
I still miss the days when all the seats were sprung. Now it's like sitting on a box.
Who is the new voice announcer
Adrian Hieat, or smth like this
i was literally at that station at that exact time!
0:03 wait... slow?!? Why?!?
Ugh its FAILING!
So it doesn’t crash into the train in front
Oh ok
Why is there only one still in service😅😅😅😅
???
because it's a prototype, when final testing is finished all the stock will be overhauled.
@@MannyAntipov is it? Ibe noticed 2 actually, so i was slightly wrong. 92 stock 91001 and 91201 or something like that
Only one exists
what do you mean by "still"?
THE BRUSH MOTORS SOUNDED SOOO MUTCH BETTET WTF HAVE THEY DONE
They are all breaking down TfL needed as solution and these are much more reliable then the old ones
love the refurbishment just miss the old voice of the train
Very good video!
This is my opinion but I don’t like how they refurbished it I love the old one makes more sense 👍
Are these announcements still only for testing and they will get a female voice in, or are they permanent with this nerdy sounding guy
Its most likely permanent
Wrong, it's temporary @@qtrainprod
@@FarmYardGamingI’ve also heard they’re temporary but what are they being replaced with?
@@reececollison5101 Nobody knows for sure who'll be voicing it but they're planning to get a female voice from what I've heard
It’s great that the announcements are in Japanese too! 😂
Good video I subscribed!
Basically a 2009 stock now
VICTORIA LINE 2.0 WHY DOES IT MAKE THATT SOUND
The DC motors and inverters were replaced due to significant maintenance issues. Bombardier (now Alstom) is providing the MITRAC inverters (similar to the 2009, S7 and S8 stock) and ABB provided the new traction motors being built to Bombardier specs. All of that should allow the train to be more reliable, easier maintenance, allow regenerative braking, and significantly less energy consumption.
Hope i can go on one!
This looks similar
Central Line 1992 Tube Stock
yoo its a victoria line train
mind the gap
I'll catch that train
The Motors Are Litterly The S Stock Motors Sounds Like A S Stock!
#CentralLineRebish
By Donald Mediumar
look at this generation. people on their phones talking gibberish. DISGUSTING
I don’t like the motors at all!
Nope that was absolutely nothing for the ac motors traction sounds but the dc motors tractions sounds are much more better.
The announcements are bad 😂
TSW4 I love this route of Bakerloo. Nice Graphics 😂
This is real life.
1992 stock, more like 1992 S stock
Why are they not speaking English is this a test run in china?
what?
@@ImpossibleRai the people in the background
No they are probably tourists
Oh right
Stratford in is North East London, UK, Liverpool Street is in Central London, Ruislip Gardens is in west London