@@iruns1246 just cause computers can do it doesn’t mean that the people who cam don’t deserve the recognition for their skills. Some things simply require a human touch for a specific feeling, which is perfect for Cartoon Saloon (studio who made Wolfwalkers). They don’t take shortcuts by just rendering the scene with a computer.
I personally found Song of the Sea boring. but that was down to the pacing, and only the young boy appearing to have any agency whatsoever. That's about it, though. of their entire catalog that's about the one film I consider below excellent. ...eat your heart out, Disney.
@@pedrosian7031 I love song of the sea. It was heartwarming. And I would give it a 10/10. If you don't like it that's understandable because slow paced movies aren't for everyone after all. :)
Heck yeah! I’ve been absolutely in love with dont starves style since the very first trailer! But the more recent animated clips simply don’t seem to have the same ...flavour? As the first trailer did
@@definitelynotapervert5602 they might not be. All of Cartoon Saloon's films have produced at a financial loss, to the point where they had an appeal ad against film piracy shown in Irish cinemas. Without government support, they'd likely be gone by now.
agreed. I still can't decide if I like it more than Song of the Sea, but it's definitely a more coherent and well-paced story. I also love the diverse character personalities in Wolfalkers. Mebh elevates every scene. I can't wait to see what Cartoon Saloon makes next! Oh also the music in these films are so beautiful!
I agree. I theorize that Ben Bocquelet, Gumball’s creator, got inspired from Cartoon Network city. All the characters of Cartoon Network’s platform were 2D but in a 3D environment. Now with the movie confirmed, we’ll likely get more of his great ideas.
@@wenisme9670 There are multiple kinds of animation, from computer generated, to stop motion, to claymation, to flip books, to hand drawn, to digitally rendered and so forth. Not all animation is hand drawn.
@@Liminal_Sharks the movie was hand drawn on counter. They used 3D model Forrest as reference but everything we saw on the movie was digitally drawn on computer...
Im gonna be quite honest, ive been obsessed with mixed media animation for years now. And somehow this was the first time ive heard someone call it 2.5D
I'm so glad Wolfwalkers is getting the attention it deserves, Cartoon Saloon is absolutely incredible and I've loved them ever since I first watched Song of the Sea, which I also highly recommend if people haven't already watched it
It would get the attention it deserves by winning that Oscar for Best Animated Picture. Such recognition is long overdue for Cartoon Saloon. But chances are slim, because Disney/Pixar automatically wins just by general awareness and publicity, without Academy members actually watching these movies. Personally, I think Wolfwalkers is a masterful piece of art and the best movie of the year - also much better than Soul, which feels like your standard Pixar tale doing nothing interesting or innovative on a visual level.
@@MegaChaosGelee It's makes me really angry that Disney/Pixar films almost always automatically win but that's a whole other issue and even a nomination would be amazing and it would probably give it some more attention. It definitely deserves it, that's for sure And to be honest I haven't gotten the chance to watch Soul yet, but no matter how good it is, it won't be able to beat Wolfwalkers for me
They are keeping 2D animation alive and in more prominent use in animation studios around the world. They are going places people and I can't wait to see more films from them 😊
what i love about it is that on more than a few occasions you can see the actual sketch like a circle around the head, whereas most artists would go back and remove that layer, they didn't. it looks better that way.
@@ADifferentVibe well for starts the ''animation'' category is a sign of how little the academy cares about animated works in 2016 for instance the existential drama Anomalisa competed for the same prize as Shaun the Sheep just because they shared the medium of animation, they absolutely weren't the same genre of film though the academy refuse to care in that regard the Annie awards is a much better fit for animated works
@@ADifferentVibe Well, mainly Disney/Pixar ones, ALTHOUGH, “Spider-Verse” won back in ‘19, plus the fact that “Wolfwalkers” had major word-of-mouth from critics back when it was first released, so, yeah. There *might* be hope.
One of my favorite things about Wolf walkers (as well as one of the things I geek out about and am so impressed by) is the gorgeous art style and just how much love and work went into this movie.
I love all these animations and the hybrid techniques, but resent the whole "made in a computer" ethos like it was not made by a human hand, CGI requires a lot of human hand labor and is quite intensive, requires a lifetime of constant training and is not "easy", is quite difficult to archive excellence in CGI.
Hear hear! A lot of wannabe film buffs think CGI is a lazy "press A to animate" situation. It still requires a lot a human touches, not unlike stop-motion animation.
@@fireaza I think a lot of people associate CGI as lazy not so much on the animators part, but more so the director. It's like how a films like The Dark Knight or Mad Max: Fury Road used tons of clever practical effects are compared to films that use too much CGI like the Hobbit trilogy or Star Wars prequel trilogy. The director could go the extra mile and go practical, or give it to the CGI artists to take care of it. Or if you're really clever (Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance comes to mind), use them both to compliment one another.
agreed! I kinda winced when the narrator says things like "watercolor cant be achieved in 3D" but it absolutely can! It really undermines the amount of research and work 3D artists put into developing new shaders, techniques, and tools. anything is possible in 3D :)
This is what I came here to say!! Cringed a little everytime the voiceover referred to the digital art as "by a computer" and the traditional "by hand" haha...
Not only this...They don't know, what they are talking about - For example, look at 6:17, when they are talking about FPS - In the "24 fps" example, the animation is on 2s (every frame in those shots is shown twice - they used 12 drawings held for 2 frames)
After watching this movie I had a feeling that there was not enough of those wolf-vision perspectives and other awesome effects included, they were just so good that I couldnt get enough. Now, seeing how much effort did it take to create those beautiful scenes, I have even more respect to the animators and just can't expect more, the amount of work already put in the movie was immense already. Let that feeling of insufficiency be the determinant of how good this thing actually is. All the people working on this thing deserve some standing ovation.
I'm so glad that Cartoon Saloon movies are starting to get more recognition. The art style and the way the movies are produced is really different from the other companies. I hope they get more fame so they can make more.
I’m from Ireland and I’m really happy to see Cartoon Saloon get so much recognition, as when it comes to Ireland’s film industry we don’t really have much to offer, yeah we have some hidden gems here and there 💎, however when it comes to a worldwide audience we don’t get much. After I heard the hugely positive reaction from so many people around the world about Wolfwalkers, it made me have hope that Ireland’s film industry and Cartoon Saloon for that matter will reflect on this positive reaction and make more amazing films!
I have a whole new respect for the animation of this movies. I was so distracted by the stylized artwork and the way your eyes are drawn to see the scent trails I never noticed how dimensional the backgrounds are.
This movie moved me, not because of everything in general, but because of the magnificent work that there is in graphite, watercolors, painting, it shows that there is nothing in 3d, but there is depth, there is a marked contrast between the dress of father and robyn as the rectilinear city without deep marked features like there in the forest. I have seen her animated shorts and the hours of work are spectacular. Mey Wolwalkers opens many thoughts, shocks you as Robyn leaves her father behind and helps those who are really in danger
They’re always bribed by Disney, and despite Into the Spider-Verse winning an Oscar in 2019 the movie was still based on a Marvel IP. Sony owns the film rights to Spidey, but the characters are owned by Marvel (which is owned by Disney). People keep assuming Sony fully owns the characters, when it’s just the movies they own. Disney owns everything else, so they still get a portion of the revenue from movies not produced by Marvel Studios.
And if that’s not another messed up thing about the Academy, they recently announced that it’s forbidden to accept awards through video conferences. They have to be on stage, risking their own health.
I don't think Soul deserved the Oscar win, this film was incredible and just looked far better than Soul did. It was visibly beautiful and the soundtrack was incredible. The hand drawn animation was stunning
Cartoon Saloon has made so many amazing films, they really deserve to be winning more awards. The problem is, they always get overshadowed by bigger corporations.
THEY NEED TO DO A SEQUEL OR SERIES AFTER THIS. seriously. We get series from terrible animations like Home. yet Nothings planned after this? Wolf Walkers is freaking AMAZING.
watching these sequences was such an experience for me and i can only imagine what it must've been like to watch them in theaters. istg please let wolfwalkers have a chance at the oscars cartoon saloon deserve the respect
Animators that animators this.. there are other people in studios too.. not everything is done by only animators.. Modeling and texturing artist, Set designer, riggers, lighting artist and so many things I don't know yet.
Yeah... Also the way they say "something a computer alone wouldn't be able to do". Well, a computer wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING alone. Every little part of a computed animated movie ALSO has to be made by artists. The sculpting, the retopology, the UV making, the rigging, the texture paint, the materials, and THEN the animation, the shading, color correction, pós production and all... It's SO much work, and the computer is just a tool to let us navigate this digital 3D world. I love 2D animation and I hate that it was left behind for so many years, I hope it comes back with full strenght. But we can't pretend 3D animation is worthless and "THAT much easier to do" either...
Unbelievably fascinating. It's like making a CGI movie in reverse. You make the 3D models for the hand drawn scenes, instead of making hand drawn scenes to make a CGI movie.
no wonder i was charmed by this, its ALL HANDDRAWN in GRAFITE, yall deserve an award!!! i fell in love with movie, all of it was absolutely brilliant and beautiful!
True, for individual characters. But certain aspects of depth, like how backgrounds and characters move in relation to each other, are impossible to achieve without innovations like the paralax/multiplanar camera.
@@picnicsandstars Yes, true. I made that comment being cynical to this video, but as I go along the more I really love these videos. Insider does such a great job showing animation at its finest, and how it works. Apart from the "most animated movies are animated on 24fps, or 1's" stuff, Insider does some great pieces on animation in general.
6:17 You made a mistake here - Most animations are animated on 2s or even 3s, not on 1s... The movie itself has 24 frames per second, yes....and 1s,2s and 3s means, how many drawings were used in those 24 frames... Animating on 1s means that there are 24 drawings for 24 frames...It's often very expensive and time consuming, and also - animating on ones doesn't equal GOOD animation... There was one movie that used animating on 1s a lot - "Akira" - But akira was mostly animated on 2s - there were just more scenes that used 1s... Animating on 2s means that for 24 frames, the animators used 12 drawings held for 2 frames each...And this is what we are seeing on the right - It's not 24 fps...The animation on the right is animated on 2s, so basically, there are 12 drawings shown for 2 frames - You all can check this out, by looking at the video frame by frame... Animating on 3s means that for 24 frames, they used 8 drawings held for 3 frames each - It is mostly used in anime.
@@linusaranha6703 I often see that people don't understand that in 2D animation, frame rate kinda doesn't matter... They think that the frame rate in 2D animations is this same thing as FPS in Video games or Frame rate in live-action movies... This video isn't that triggering...Is misleading, yes, but it is not "harmful"... What triggers me the most, are those Videos, in which they interpolated 2D Animations, using Dain-app... And people in the comments there - They don't know ANYTHING about 2D animation, but they are FIRST to talk BS about how 2D animation should be done... Few comments from the comments section of "What Mulan (1998) would look like in 60fps", to show, what i am talking about When i saw the comments there...I literally wanted to find those people and punch them in the face, and you will understand why in a moment: _" Yeah, animated and live action movies are usually made around 24-25 fps, because it looks not too smooth, not too blurry. It's how our eyes see real life"_ _"that's really stupid reasoning. The 24 frame format is over a century old and there's literally no need for it to exist anymore. You've just been conditioned to thinking that movies should be in 24fps and that's why you don't like the better 60fps format."_ _"that is just because we are used to having games be 60 fps. at the end of the day, 60fps is better."_ _"It's all about convention though - we've been conditioned to expect 24fps. Should we start towards animation or film in general being 60fps, that film convention will eventually stick and we (or future generations more likely) wouldn't find it so jarring. "_ _" 60 fps could be better if directed correctly."_ (For context, this was an answer to someone's comment, in which he/she explained that animator choose timing for animations and that's why animation interpolated to 60 fps looks bad) _"You're completely wrong about 3D, It clearly needs a higher framerate like 48,50,60,120"_ (this was in answer to AN ANIMATOR, who said that 24 FPS is enough for 3D animation) _"Except no. The movie was animated at the frame rate it was because the artists have to draw every frame. The more fps, the more work. The interpolation that the ai uses looks fantastic and I would pay to see some of the stunning work that the animators did ramped up to 60 fps."_ _"I don't think they lower the FPS in fight scenes, they increase the shutter speed so that there's less motion blur and it looks more "raw" (I guess is a way of saying it)."_ Ok, enough comments, because just reading them makes me angry... The worst types of comments are comments like "HURR DURR, 24 FPS HAS 100 Years and it is old, so we should use 60 fps instead, I played VIDEO GAME AND IT LOOKED GREAT" And the second worst type of comments are comments from people, who don't understand how 2D animation works, but they are first to explain to others,even the professional animators, how their animations should be done.
@@tygra2886 exactly its just sooooo sooo annoying to see people showoff little that they have come across and remember against professionals in said fields.. that "60fps could be better if directed correctly" guy definitely isn't anyway close to the field he is talking abt... Definitely gamers tryna mix similar terms together to make themselves sound smart.
@@tygra2886 Thank you! I'm so glad I'm not alone. Also for commenting on interpolation. So many good animation scenes have been uploaded on YT in the "interpolated" "60fps" version. I can't understand for life how someone would find these abominations better than the original sequences...
@@tygra2886 oh yeah absolutely. I hate interpolation. However, while the "most movies are animated at 24 images per second" thing is misleading, I can understand a journalist making a mistake, something far different than being a 60fps ai evangelist
I'd never watched a cartoon saloon film before but when wolf walkers was released i was absolutely in love since the trailer! Everything about it is amazingly beautiful, the book is interesting and the film is great! i might watch some more of their films. Disney, take notes
I highly recommend watching them. All three previous movies of Cartoon Saloon - The Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea, and The Breadwinner - are Academy Award nominated masterpieces. Both regarding animation and storytelling. It's so easy to fall in love with this studio and their artful craft.
wolf walkers is the only movie that has ever made me cry, not even HTTYD 3, a film and series i had been following since i was 6, was able to make me shed a tear. seeing how much work was put into this film, how they made full 3d modeled backdrops that we never even SEE just to get it right- that takes skill and guts. not only was the animation steller but the story and score and all the things fell together to make this story something important. tho without the 2D (2.5?) animation it would have felt very different and been a very different film. BRING 2D BACK!!
I need to watch this, I've heard a lot of good stuff about it and the animation is AMAZING. I loved learning about this process, if I ever try 3d animation I'm gonna see if I can make this effect work :D
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*YES* ANIMATORS NEED MORE RECOGNITION, I HAVE SUCH A MAD AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN HAND DRAW EACH FRAME
Well computers can already do similar style of render right now. Much, much faster, and far cheaper.
Agreed
Hi bee
Especially in 2020!
@@iruns1246 just cause computers can do it doesn’t mean that the people who cam don’t deserve the recognition for their skills. Some things simply require a human touch for a specific feeling, which is perfect for Cartoon Saloon (studio who made Wolfwalkers). They don’t take shortcuts by just rendering the scene with a computer.
cartoon saloon honestly never disappoints with their movies
That’s very true
True
I personally found Song of the Sea boring. but that was down to the pacing, and only the young boy appearing to have any agency whatsoever. That's about it, though. of their entire catalog that's about the one film I consider below excellent.
...eat your heart out, Disney.
To bad they don't get money and have only made 4 films
@@pedrosian7031 I love song of the sea. It was heartwarming. And I would give it a 10/10. If you don't like it that's understandable because slow paced movies aren't for everyone after all. :)
I know Blender has been used in a lot of movies but it's still making me smile that more movies are being made using Blender.
Wait till you see what they use to make South Park.
I love this too being someone that uses blender
@@justinpedersen9174 MS Paint?
@@OrdinaryLatvian Autodesk Maya ;)
@@justinpedersen9174 for real tho, that's kinda expensive for that kind of animation :(
I really like Tom Moore's asthetic, Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea, all fantastic films. Really looking forward to this one.
It's already out on Apple TV
Same
Mhm I really love these movies and the art style.
Though I haven’t watched all of them
Just want to mention Don't Starve. It's a game, not a cartoon, but I think it's a good representation of "2.5D graphic".
Heck yeah! I’ve been absolutely in love with dont starves style since the very first trailer! But the more recent animated clips simply don’t seem to have the same ...flavour? As the first trailer did
I like that game
@@dianamaydraw8533 the game itself is beautiful for the simplicity it has, if you haven’t played it
@@enoxomnia of course I’ve played it! Not well, but I played it.
@@enoxomnia, hmm, I'll have to try it out.
Imagine how hard and how much time they did on this
They deserve to get famous
yeah, what a wonderful world
Took 5 years!
Animation is very time consuming and difficult.
He’s right.
I have EVEN MORE RESPECT FOR THIS MOVIE, and I've watched it over 5 TIMES NOW (gonna keep going, cause this movie is "FLIPPING GREAT!")!
This studio is something else....and I love it.
Yeah, I'm scared they'll go under tho, I swear they risk too much lol
@@clartblart3266 Nah, they'll be totally fine.
@@definitelynotapervert5602 Did you know they're making a 13 episode Tv series for Wolfwalkers?
@@definitelynotapervert5602 they might not be. All of Cartoon Saloon's films have produced at a financial loss, to the point where they had an appeal ad against film piracy shown in Irish cinemas. Without government support, they'd likely be gone by now.
@@sweetasterium that's a real shame... I really enjoy their films...
Absolutely astounding. I can't imagine the ache in their hands
ikr and they draw so beautifully : 0
Let alone the hands
The FATIGUE
Wolfwalkers is one of the best movies that came out in 2020
I love the art style ❤️
I've watched it over 5 times now...
@Kai Studio's I plan to
@@thespeedyyoshi 😁👍🐺😋
agreed. I still can't decide if I like it more than Song of the Sea, but it's definitely a more coherent and well-paced story. I also love the diverse character personalities in Wolfalkers. Mebh elevates every scene. I can't wait to see what Cartoon Saloon makes next!
Oh also the music in these films are so beautiful!
I thought of 2.5D when something is created like the Amazing World of Gumball. Had no idea what the "heighten" part was called but it is hecka neat
I agree. I theorize that Ben Bocquelet, Gumball’s creator, got inspired from Cartoon Network city. All the characters of Cartoon Network’s platform were 2D but in a 3D environment.
Now with the movie confirmed, we’ll likely get more of his great ideas.
Wolf walker was my best hand drawn movie of 2020...
True 😁
@@wenisme9670 There are multiple kinds of animation, from computer generated, to stop motion, to claymation, to flip books, to hand drawn, to digitally rendered and so forth. Not all animation is hand drawn.
@@wenisme9670 tell me how 3d animation is hand drawn then
@@Liminal_Sharks the movie was hand drawn on counter. They used 3D model Forrest as reference but everything we saw on the movie was digitally drawn on computer...
More like the best animation in 2020
I didnt know 2.5D was in movies, i never really noticed
Me neither
Im gonna be quite honest, ive been obsessed with mixed media animation for years now. And somehow this was the first time ive heard someone call it 2.5D
Yeah
@@ponyfish157 If it has layered depth using 2D assets in 3D space, then it's 2.5D. You're lacking visual library, that's why you just heard of it.
@@ponyfish157 what is mixed media? Is it like the spidervse style?
I’m so happy there are people in the world that’s not letting 2d animation die thank you so much cartoon saloon
I recommend watching wolfwalkers it’s a pretty good movie and gets you in the feels
it feels a lot like a disney movie 😀🤘
@@dikkorulz2391 Egy3i uht at it aeyw4
Where do I watch it?
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW Apple TV +
@@dikkorulz2391 no, its better
I'm so glad Wolfwalkers is getting the attention it deserves, Cartoon Saloon is absolutely incredible and I've loved them ever since I first watched Song of the Sea, which I also highly recommend if people haven't already watched it
It would get the attention it deserves by winning that Oscar for Best Animated Picture. Such recognition is long overdue for Cartoon Saloon. But chances are slim, because Disney/Pixar automatically wins just by general awareness and publicity, without Academy members actually watching these movies. Personally, I think Wolfwalkers is a masterful piece of art and the best movie of the year - also much better than Soul, which feels like your standard Pixar tale doing nothing interesting or innovative on a visual level.
@@MegaChaosGelee It's makes me really angry that Disney/Pixar films almost always automatically win but that's a whole other issue and even a nomination would be amazing and it would probably give it some more attention. It definitely deserves it, that's for sure
And to be honest I haven't gotten the chance to watch Soul yet, but no matter how good it is, it won't be able to beat Wolfwalkers for me
They are keeping 2D animation alive and in more prominent use in animation studios around the world. They are going places people and I can't wait to see more films from them 😊
what i love about it is that on more than a few occasions you can see the actual sketch like a circle around the head, whereas most artists would go back and remove that layer, they didn't. it looks better that way.
god watching the wolf sequences for the first time was a whole EXPERIENCE
Animation is so hard! People who do this for a living deserve more credit and respect!
This movie should win Best Animated Feature at the Oscars - it's that good of a film. I'd be happily surprised if it takes the award over Soul.
Hmm wolfwalker is way better
@@etriganthedemon666 I agree but lot of Oscars voters tend to favor big name productions more than ones who actually earn it for the better film.
@@ADifferentVibe Hmm Agree
@@ADifferentVibe well for starts the ''animation'' category is a sign of how little the academy cares about animated works
in 2016 for instance the existential drama Anomalisa competed for the same prize as Shaun the Sheep just because they shared the medium of animation, they absolutely weren't the same genre of film though
the academy refuse to care
in that regard the Annie awards is a much better fit for animated works
@@ADifferentVibe Well, mainly Disney/Pixar ones, ALTHOUGH, “Spider-Verse” won back in ‘19, plus the fact that “Wolfwalkers” had major word-of-mouth from critics back when it was first released, so, yeah.
There *might* be hope.
One of my favorite things about Wolf walkers (as well as one of the things I geek out about and am so impressed by) is the gorgeous art style and just how much love and work went into this movie.
I just finished watching Wolfwalkers a week ago and still watching it sometimes. It is by far one of the most beautiful movies to come out.
Taking the best of both techniques.
Reminds me of the combination of practical effects and CGI in live actions. Those are best!
Chico, its is very much true!
I love all these animations and the hybrid techniques, but resent the whole "made in a computer" ethos like it was not made by a human hand, CGI requires a lot of human hand labor and is quite intensive, requires a lifetime of constant training and is not "easy", is quite difficult to archive excellence in CGI.
Exactly. Even Cartoon Saloon said this, just in their own words.
Hear hear! A lot of wannabe film buffs think CGI is a lazy "press A to animate" situation. It still requires a lot a human touches, not unlike stop-motion animation.
@@fireaza I think a lot of people associate CGI as lazy not so much on the animators part, but more so the director. It's like how a films like The Dark Knight or Mad Max: Fury Road used tons of clever practical effects are compared to films that use too much CGI like the Hobbit trilogy or Star Wars prequel trilogy. The director could go the extra mile and go practical, or give it to the CGI artists to take care of it. Or if you're really clever (Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance comes to mind), use them both to compliment one another.
agreed! I kinda winced when the narrator says things like "watercolor cant be achieved in 3D" but it absolutely can! It really undermines the amount of research and work 3D artists put into developing new shaders, techniques, and tools. anything is possible in 3D :)
This is what I came here to say!! Cringed a little everytime the voiceover referred to the digital art as "by a computer" and the traditional "by hand" haha...
Toon Saloon deserves so much more recognition. I adore their unique art style and use of folklore.
Cartoon Saloon is my 2nd favorite non-American animated studio
1st one is studio ghibli im guessing?
@@AnnTheWatcher you are correct
Yeessss cultured I like this
Wolfwalkers deserve some awards!
Insider: Pronounces Kaguya as kuguya
Me: winces
Not only this...They don't know, what they are talking about - For example, look at 6:17, when they are talking about FPS - In the "24 fps" example, the animation is on 2s (every frame in those shots is shown twice - they used 12 drawings held for 2 frames)
I laughed so hard.
Kuguuya. oh no.
I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED
IKR
So their 24 FPS example was really 12?
After watching this movie I had a feeling that there was not enough of those wolf-vision perspectives and other awesome effects included, they were just so good that I couldnt get enough. Now, seeing how much effort did it take to create those beautiful scenes, I have even more respect to the animators and just can't expect more, the amount of work already put in the movie was immense already. Let that feeling of insufficiency be the determinant of how good this thing actually is. All the people working on this thing deserve some standing ovation.
I'm so glad that Cartoon Saloon movies are starting to get more recognition. The art style and the way the movies are produced is really different from the other companies. I hope they get more fame so they can make more.
Film *really* needs an award or SOMETHING EPIC
It's great to see an Irish Animation Studio based in Kilkenny are competing against Disney for the Oscars.
I’m from Ireland and I’m really happy to see Cartoon Saloon get so much recognition, as when it comes to Ireland’s film industry we don’t really have much to offer, yeah we have some hidden gems here and there 💎, however when it comes to a worldwide audience we don’t get much. After I heard the hugely positive reaction from so many people around the world about Wolfwalkers, it made me have hope that Ireland’s film industry and Cartoon Saloon for that matter will reflect on this positive reaction and make more amazing films!
I have a whole new respect for the animation of this movies. I was so distracted by the stylized artwork and the way your eyes are drawn to see the scent trails I never noticed how dimensional the backgrounds are.
This is honestly an amazing movie. If you haven't watched it yet, you should!
you know, when I watched Wolfwalkers I was also like: wait... this kinda looks like song of the sea 🤔
It's the same studio and mostly same animation team
@@lixxie144 And same director.
This movie moved me, not because of everything in general, but because of the magnificent work that there is in graphite, watercolors, painting, it shows that there is nothing in 3d, but there is depth, there is a marked contrast between the dress of father and robyn as the rectilinear city without deep marked features like there in the forest. I have seen her animated shorts and the hours of work are spectacular. Mey Wolwalkers opens many thoughts, shocks you as Robyn leaves her father behind and helps those who are really in danger
This is one of the best animated movie of 2020... It deserve to win an Oscar for the best animation...the story, the movement, the colours... 👌
If this film doesn't get an Oscar, the Academy is officially dead
They’re always bribed by Disney, and despite Into the Spider-Verse winning an Oscar in 2019 the movie was still based on a Marvel IP.
Sony owns the film rights to Spidey, but the characters are owned by Marvel (which is owned by Disney).
People keep assuming Sony fully owns the characters, when it’s just the movies they own. Disney owns everything else, so they still get a portion of the revenue from movies not produced by Marvel Studios.
And if that’s not another messed up thing about the Academy, they recently announced that it’s forbidden to accept awards through video conferences. They have to be on stage, risking their own health.
Oscars has long been dead since Brave won over Wreck-It-Ralph in Best animation category
I don't think Soul deserved the Oscar win, this film was incredible and just looked far better than Soul did. It was visibly beautiful and the soundtrack was incredible. The hand drawn animation was stunning
Soul was pretty good storywise, but I do agree, Wolfwalkers deserves an award better than Soul does.
7:17 wow, I never expect that. That film is absolutly amazing.
This Movie deserves a OSCAR, and i am sure that they will win it🐺🐺
Cartoon Saloon has made so many amazing films, they really deserve to be winning more awards. The problem is, they always get overshadowed by bigger corporations.
One of the most beautiful movie I ever seen. One of my favorite reminds me of Ghibli Movies.
THEY NEED TO DO A SEQUEL OR SERIES AFTER THIS. seriously. We get series from terrible animations like Home. yet Nothings planned after this? Wolf Walkers is freaking AMAZING.
I hope Wolfwalkers wins the Oscar! It's one of the best animated movies in 2020.
We need more 2D animation this generation
watching these sequences was such an experience for me and i can only imagine what it must've been like to watch them in theaters. istg please let wolfwalkers have a chance at the oscars cartoon saloon deserve the respect
Animators that animators this.. there are other people in studios too.. not everything is done by only animators..
Modeling and texturing artist, Set designer, riggers, lighting artist and so many things I don't know yet.
Yeah... Also the way they say "something a computer alone wouldn't be able to do". Well, a computer wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING alone. Every little part of a computed animated movie ALSO has to be made by artists. The sculpting, the retopology, the UV making, the rigging, the texture paint, the materials, and THEN the animation, the shading, color correction, pós production and all... It's SO much work, and the computer is just a tool to let us navigate this digital 3D world.
I love 2D animation and I hate that it was left behind for so many years, I hope it comes back with full strenght.
But we can't pretend 3D animation is worthless and "THAT much easier to do" either...
Catch all term
I know! We should give these guys the credit too as they made this film possible. They all did a fantastic job on this work of art!
"This is 2d-animation!" _shows 2d animation_
"And this is 3d-animation!" _shows an untextured, still 3d model_
@@Nejvyn Yeah I cringed a little bit at that part 🤦🏾♀️
Unbelievably fascinating. It's like making a CGI movie in reverse. You make the 3D models for the hand drawn scenes, instead of making hand drawn scenes to make a CGI movie.
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Me my dad and my lil brother loved this movie so much its so wonderfully made i applause to the animators👏❤️❤️❤️
no wonder i was charmed by this, its ALL HANDDRAWN in GRAFITE, yall deserve an award!!! i fell in love with movie, all of it was absolutely brilliant and beautiful!
So much work! But it paid off. The movie is gorgeous looking, every frame.
That's totally some masterwork piece of wolfwalkers i always taught the wolf vision was 2d but using 3d background was well amazing
The wolf vision POV looked so amazing. This was so well thought out.
The animation is breathtaking
This was quite insightful. Thank you for making this, Insider!
Movie is a masterpiece. Even process of creating is s masterpiece
Kuguuya.
That one word had me laughing so hard.
You can literally see the _circles on the face_ to draw the outline of the face in some scenes, it’s literally amazing.
This movie is one of my favorites!!! Hope the animators get more recognition for such talent!
ok 47 seconds in but uhh
*depth is literally one of the principals of animation, It's called solid drawing*
True, for individual characters. But certain aspects of depth, like how backgrounds and characters move in relation to each other, are impossible to achieve without innovations like the paralax/multiplanar camera.
@@picnicsandstars Yes, true.
I made that comment being cynical to this video, but as I go along the more I really love these videos. Insider does such a great job showing animation at its finest, and how it works. Apart from the "most animated movies are animated on 24fps, or 1's" stuff, Insider does some great pieces on animation in general.
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You made a mistake here - Most animations are animated on 2s or even 3s, not on 1s...
The movie itself has 24 frames per second, yes....and 1s,2s and 3s means, how many drawings were used in those 24 frames...
Animating on 1s means that there are 24 drawings for 24 frames...It's often very expensive and time consuming, and also - animating on ones doesn't equal GOOD animation... There was one movie that used animating on 1s a lot - "Akira" - But akira was mostly animated on 2s - there were just more scenes that used 1s...
Animating on 2s means that for 24 frames, the animators used 12 drawings held for 2 frames each...And this is what we are seeing on the right - It's not 24 fps...The animation on the right is animated on 2s, so basically, there are 12 drawings shown for 2 frames - You all can check this out, by looking at the video frame by frame...
Animating on 3s means that for 24 frames, they used 8 drawings held for 3 frames each - It is mostly used in anime.
I literally came down in the comments, triggered at the commentator for this...
@@linusaranha6703 I often see that people don't understand that in 2D animation, frame rate kinda doesn't matter...
They think that the frame rate in 2D animations is this same thing as FPS in Video games or Frame rate in live-action movies...
This video isn't that triggering...Is misleading, yes, but it is not "harmful"...
What triggers me the most, are those Videos, in which they interpolated 2D Animations, using Dain-app...
And people in the comments there - They don't know ANYTHING about 2D animation, but they are FIRST to talk BS about how 2D animation should be done...
Few comments from the comments section of "What Mulan (1998) would look like in 60fps", to show, what i am talking about
When i saw the comments there...I literally wanted to find those people and punch them in the face, and you will understand why in a moment:
_" Yeah, animated and live action movies are usually made around 24-25 fps, because it looks not too smooth, not too blurry. It's how our eyes see real life"_
_"that's really stupid reasoning. The 24 frame format is over a century old and there's literally no need for it to exist anymore. You've just been conditioned to thinking that movies should be in 24fps and that's why you don't like the better 60fps format."_
_"that is just because we are used to having games be 60 fps. at the end of the day, 60fps is better."_
_"It's all about convention though - we've been conditioned to expect 24fps. Should we start towards animation or film in general being 60fps, that film convention will eventually stick and we (or future generations more likely) wouldn't find it so jarring. "_
_" 60 fps could be better if directed correctly."_ (For context, this was an answer to someone's comment, in which he/she explained that animator choose timing for animations and that's why animation interpolated to 60 fps looks bad)
_"You're completely wrong about 3D, It clearly needs a higher framerate like 48,50,60,120"_ (this was in answer to AN ANIMATOR, who said that 24 FPS is enough for 3D animation)
_"Except no. The movie was animated at the frame rate it was because the artists have to draw every frame. The more fps, the more work. The interpolation that the ai uses looks fantastic and I would pay to see some of the stunning work that the animators did ramped up to 60 fps."_
_"I don't think they lower the FPS in fight scenes, they increase the shutter speed so that there's less motion blur and it looks more "raw" (I guess is a way of saying it)."_
Ok, enough comments, because just reading them makes me angry...
The worst types of comments are comments like "HURR DURR, 24 FPS HAS 100 Years and it is old, so we should use 60 fps instead, I played VIDEO GAME AND IT LOOKED GREAT"
And the second worst type of comments are comments from people, who don't understand how 2D animation works, but they are first to explain to others,even the professional animators, how their animations should be done.
@@tygra2886 exactly its just sooooo sooo annoying to see people showoff little that they have come across and remember against professionals in said fields.. that "60fps could be better if directed correctly" guy definitely isn't anyway close to the field he is talking abt... Definitely gamers tryna mix similar terms together to make themselves sound smart.
@@tygra2886 Thank you! I'm so glad I'm not alone. Also for commenting on interpolation. So many good animation scenes have been uploaded on YT in the "interpolated" "60fps" version. I can't understand for life how someone would find these abominations better than the original sequences...
@@tygra2886 oh yeah absolutely. I hate interpolation. However, while the "most movies are animated at 24 images per second" thing is misleading, I can understand a journalist making a mistake, something far different than being a 60fps ai evangelist
I'm so happy blender is finally being used in the productions of movies!!
I love this movie, the animation is spectacular, and it is one of my favorite movies.
I just love cartoon Saloon more and more
cartoon saloon is amazing, they never dissapoint with their flims.
Definitely a movie that sticks with you looooong after you watch it, both because of the story and the art.
This movie deserves so much more love.
MY GOSH THAT FILM THAT FILM IS EVERYTING
that is wildly impressive
I'd never watched a cartoon saloon film before but when wolf walkers was released i was absolutely in love since the trailer! Everything about it is amazingly beautiful, the book is interesting and the film is great! i might watch some more of their films. Disney, take notes
I highly recommend watching them. All three previous movies of Cartoon Saloon - The Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea, and The Breadwinner - are Academy Award nominated masterpieces. Both regarding animation and storytelling. It's so easy to fall in love with this studio and their artful craft.
Talk about dedication
Absolute genius. CGI rotoscoping!
I wish more studios would go back to 2D animation like this.
My arms would have died, my god. Marvelous work.
My children love this show so much and I’m so shocked at this animated 2D masterpiece
It a movie
Wowowowowow the animators deserves a raise
This is a great example of using 3d elements while keeping the film purely 2d.
When i saw the lion cave thing in aladdin i was so confused on why it looked 3d but 2d at the same time
I rly can recommend Wolfwalkers, the story is also way darker than the average disney pixar mix.
Cartoon Saloon you are the best! So hard projects, so perfect work and result! Incredible!
4:19 WOOOOOOOOOO YEEEEEEAHHH BABYYYYYYY
wolf walkers is the only movie that has ever made me cry, not even HTTYD 3, a film and series i had been following since i was 6, was able to make me shed a tear.
seeing how much work was put into this film, how they made full 3d modeled backdrops that we never even SEE just to get it right- that takes skill and guts.
not only was the animation steller but the story and score and all the things fell together to make this story something important. tho without the 2D (2.5?) animation it would have felt very different and been a very different film. BRING 2D BACK!!
Every time i read about this movie, i keep getting amazed on how they did it
It certainly shows in the magic of the film
I've been wating for this..!!! Some kind of indepth info about the animating process.
That movie is amazing!
I love this movie, good story and art
The multiplane camera was used in several films before "Bambi."
That’s really cool!
As a storytime Animator I just, love love LOVE vids like these
People are so creative
It was a beautiful film. It deserves awards.
Yes give this movie more attention
I need to watch this, I've heard a lot of good stuff about it and the animation is AMAZING. I loved learning about this process, if I ever try 3d animation I'm gonna see if I can make this effect work :D
It's so amazing to me, I am an architect myself and i love this 2d feelings so much becuase I asociate them with my own old 2d drawings.
it is such an amazing film that i now appreciate 10 times more :)
Wolfwalkers is so underrated. I watched it with my littlE sister and we LOVED IT
Many recent anime are great examples of 2.5D animation, with some of them being so good you can't tell the difference
Love Wolfwalkers.
*DAMN* this is INCREDIBLY impressive I am speechless at the amount of work that must have gone into this film 🤩
It's their job.
This type of animation is so cool after 2D
Man I love these animation videos on your channel! They’re amazing