There’s a few misconceptions about modern city Filipina, we will generally try in the first instance to be independent as were being taught to stand on our own two feet. This will embolden us to help others and be a proactive member of society. Of course we are yearning for our life partner to settle with and have a family, this is still the dream of a every Filipina and we would give up our careers to have the “ ideal family” . As for partners..you’ll try to date up, I personally always found western guys attractive. I was a corporate banker for Citi and Wells, and while your working your with friends/work mates and a family..your potential of meeting foreign guy is limited as most are not really serious and I would continue a relationship if the guy is not serious. So a nice guy can certainly find a modern city Filipina..we are just more work ..charrr. God bless.
Hello Kelly, Thank you for your thoughtful contribution. You’re always welcome to share your perspective here. I’ll pin this to the top in hopes of others reading and benefiting. Best, Joe
@@Joeysgonerogue Thankyou ..I really your analysis is correct although if we find a guy attractive, we find them attractive. And personally there’s a demographic of Filipina that really find western guys the most attractive.
Good morning Joey from Southern California, always appreciate the straight talk, if it only helps out one guy out of many, I'd call that a win. Best Wishes Always.
love your videos and topics. In this one it is my understanding that we cannot generalize too much in life because all cases are different. One thing to consider indeed is that most American expats here are not at the same level of understanding emotionally and financially, but mostly emotionally. Love is everywhere available for the right people and right understanding even in different "classes". Yes, it is good to warn many dummy expats because many women here are beauties, emotionally and in terms of giving unconditional love. I found a very classy women, very busy with her job 16 hours per day taking care of a family and their children. Thank you Joe, in a month or so I will be again in BGC and hope to have a cup of coffee with you and learn from your experience. Take care
High class girls have more options rather than marry an elderly pensioner. The seniors are looking for poor province girls who need an opportunity in life.
I like your analysis and I agree that "High Class" Filipinas are seldom interested in foreigners. The reason why so many "Low Class" (no offence meant) Filipinas are interested in us is because they want to get out of poverty.
@@homebasebelgium359 Don’t we all want the best and hopefully the real true loves our lives..like our working lives we try our very best to make the most of our opportunities. And to be honest I would like a guy a can spend years and years with ..Happy hunting guys. God bless.
Thank you! I’ve not heard the term “climber” before. Much better description of what I was trying to define. Thank you for the great contribution! Best, Joe
I think "high class" generally means affluent (read rich). If I were to expatriate to the Philippines or Taiwan or Thailand or ... I would want to meet a professional (lawyer, teacher, nurse, etc.) working or retired woman who has her own money, whose kids (if any) are grown and gone, and who wants companionship with a western man. Young women from affluent families in their 20s or 30s would be very hard to meet let alone establish a relationship. There are more unattached attractive Filipinas in their 40s to 50s than one might think. Location is important but a satisfying relationship with a high character lady can be found if one is careful and patient. I spent about ten years visiting, working, and living all over the Pacific and they do exist.
12 Work/ +21 Vacation/ 45 Calendar Days until Civil Service Retirement/ 90 Days to my Six Month Trial in Cebu City. IF I meet someone... It's probably going to be someone that matches my background & interests. Education, Bookstores, Gaming... Most of the women in my family were in Healthcare...
Haha! You mentioned about golf clubs, my hubby and I brought our clubs from UK to Philippines and I do yoga and pilates. I'll remind my husband today that I've come from a family of lawyers/liars hahaha!
YOu are very very correct! Highly educated and middle to higher class Filipinas also date yuppies, professionals, who are young, most of the time , their colleagues. Somebody who keeps up with their lifestyle. So, in cities like Baguio, Manila, etc, you rarely see old, western men dating or living with young women. If there are fireginers, these are likewise young, successful ones, he hehe
An exception to being with people of own kind is if that foreigner ( desirably) speaks the local language and is assimilated into the local culture both economically and socially. Then, there are fewer problems entering those families. If he is now a Filipino citizen, even better. If you went to school there, and networked and went native, then, OK. Much easier. An FOB tourist or a retiree is not really that type. Plus, young successful men outside of the PH rarely go to the PH to assimilate, integrate, start businesses, go to school there, etc.
Great points! I truly believe the amount of seemingly "special treatment" I receive is because I continue to make the effort to learn Tagalog and assimilate. People in every country appreciate it when foreigners are respectful. Thank you for watching and writing. Best regards, Joe
@@Joeysgonerogue I am now fluent in Tagalog and it is night and day. I am pretty much treated as a local. I also rarely get ripped off now. One needs to keep in mind that Filipinos are not Japanese or Koreans. They are way, way less xenophobic. Still not Brazilians, by all means, but things become way easier when you become a speaker of the local language. But you need to speak it well. Not just " mahal kita" and "kamusta ka". My goddaughter once told me, "I always thought you were a pure White Filipino ". Your fluency, though may be a minus if there is a girl who specifically looks for a " porener" to practice English, show him off to her friends and eventually to emigrate to " the States". Those are not interested in Pinoy Hilaw and Pinoy-Pinoyan.
@@vince1012 Filipina yearn for a loving husband and family ..just we generally put some things on hold to achieve our short term goals ..if we vibe we vibe.
WRT to the "unicorn"...older, secure, unmarried or widowed Filipina. They may be rare but they do exist so don't exclude that age group if you're searching for a Filipina partner online.
I agree, but I find it distasteful. Money doesn’t make one sophisticated. It does make you more of whatever you are, and that ain’t always a good thing. Thanks for watching and contributing to the conversation. Best regards, Joe
The run of the mill foreigners generally will not cut it with the modern city Filipina, guys that come here really have no idea about the professional Filipino and the society. The quality Filipina know there worth so whether Filipino or it be a western guy they will need to be on point to attract the true unicorns. Filipina are no different from other women …they will want the best mate they can get ..looks and security. And if your a guy that’s dated plethora of Filipina ..you’ll find your level, whether it be province or city modern, but for sure it’s easier to date the province girls as they are in rich supply. I personally only ended up dating city Filipina as it’s not my bag living in the province away from infrastructure..but each to there own.
Hi Eric, you nailed it! Nothing in life (income, quality of friendships, women, etc) exceeds our own value, at least not for long. Thank you for the great contribution. Best, Joe.
Curious. You have been in the Philippines for more than a year, and I’ve been following your Chanel since day 1. Do you still enjoy the Philippines? Or are you sick and tired of the inefficiencies there? Filipina in Texas is asking.
Can I answer? I both enjoy and do not enjoy. My last visit I was at a very big resort in Cavite. A great place, but they had no credit card terminal. I had to pay cash. So, that means I had to carry 12,000 pesos in cash on me. Who does that? They told me to go to an ATM. I took a long, long ride on the back of the motorcycle to the ATM, and had to pay for it, but the ATM was out of order. Had to go to another ATM very, very far. Still wondering why in 2024, a huge resort would not take credit cards. Then, I went to a cafe there and asked for a coke and they answered, " We have no coke". It is experiences like this that make me rethink actual living in the PH 365 days a year. So, I visit, stay maybe 3 months at a time and then go. I want to ask a proud Filipino why in countries around the PH, there is no such problem. They are also " poor" but they have credit card machines, their ATMs work, their products are not "out of stock". Same people with the same economy and the same face as Filipinos. Don't get me wrong, I love the PH but I cannot live there all the time. I need to get out. If I have to stay in the PH, I will stay in Angeles City. They have better services.
Hi, Thank you for watching for so long and taking time to write. I have very few "bad" days where I feel frustrated. I've pretty much settled in and only plan 1 thing per day if it requires some type of official action (immigration, banking, etc.). What I'm really impressed with (from an efficiency standpoint) is how much easier it is to get a doctor's appointment here than in the USA. When I left the US it took 2 months to see my primary care doc and over 6 months to schedule a colonoscopy. As far as enjoying the Philippine, I still love it; the kindness here is unlike anyplace I've been. Thank you again, Best, Joe
Who are we Joe? It seems you are not even in the country? I agree though, affluent Filipinas don't want anything to do with foreigners, or as a matter of fact nor with poor Filipinos, too.
Hi Alvin, We are people like me retired in the Philippines. I try not to say “you” as it feels like preaching to others. I am in the country and spend most of my time exploring on the motorcycle. Thank you for watching and writing. Best, Joe.
I’m a Filipina who is a U.S. citizen. Both my parents were Filipinos and I remember my mom telling us (we were all girls, no boys) to get a good education, good job, and never, ever depend on anyone to feed us. So if anything happens in the relationship, we can take care of ourselves with dignity and with no fear. That was the best advice ever!
Hi Pamela, You were blessed to a have wonderful mother to guide you and it sounds like you've made a great life! Thank you for watching, writing, and the channel support.. Best, Joe
@ChadPerfect-It will be a mistake for men if they think the old fashion way that women just need to take care of the house. Be a maid without a pay and serve the men. There are also men that want to stay home and have the women care for them. Why can’t it be both on the same page/goal and share.
@ChadPerfect- not biological. It is just a set of rigid ideas- expectations and behaviors, which is harmful to everyone. But Philippines are perfect for your expectations. I believe 75% of Filipinas there is very traditional. Wife stays home husband work. But won’t mostly work with big age gap beween foreigners ( a lot of them complains they were abandoned) and Filipina. I beilieve its exactly same reason. Younger girls didn’t see the world yet.
@ChadPerfect- Even though I’m educated and I’ve been successful with my career, I’ve been married for 34 years to the same man. There were plenty of times I almost gave up. However, here we are, still in love with each other. I guess it depends on who and what you are both fighting for……
Men generally do not date for money ..but high value women does not necessarily mean high earner..especially in the phil’s. As wages and jobs are not comparable as we know to western wage structure. Most foreigner guys in the phil’s simply will not meet the criteria for 1% of unicorn Filipina.
@@Eric-qm5xw Pretty outdated info to be honest. Its not uncommon to find people in the philippines earning $5000 a month. Just look at all the new SUVs and Pickup Trucks and Cars on the road. Those cost a lot of money, and it shouldnt be a surprise why there are hundreds and thousands of those expensive vehicles on the roads. Wealth has quadrupled in the Philippines over the past 10 years alone. I am now earning 8x more now than when i entered the workforce 6 years ago. Of course, I wouldnt expect an expat to know these things if the only reliable source they've had is a filipina on the dating site who hasnt had a day of college or high school education. College education rates have grown significantly over the past decade, and currently, tertiary education rates are higher in the PH than america. 45% of Filipinos go to college, only 37% for great old America.
Dating a high class or busy professional is exhausting and expensive. No thank you. I prefer what I can tolerate and that is peaceful relaxation without stress. I already worked in the rat race for over 50 years. Now is my time to enjoy life with someone who has already finished her career.
These women spend more money on a group dinner and a round of drinks than the average dude on pensions or disability.. STOP dreaming guys... They are OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE,, (I have lived here for years...I know these people well).
There’s a few misconceptions about modern city Filipina, we will generally try in the first instance to be independent as were being taught to stand on our own two feet. This will embolden us to help others and be a proactive member of society. Of course we are yearning for our life partner to settle with and have a family, this is still the dream of a every Filipina and we would give up our careers to have the “ ideal family” . As for partners..you’ll try to date up, I personally always found western guys attractive. I was a corporate banker for Citi and Wells, and while your working your with friends/work mates and a family..your potential of meeting foreign guy is limited as most are not really serious and I would continue a relationship if the guy is not serious. So a nice guy can certainly find a modern city Filipina..we are just more work ..charrr. God bless.
Hello Kelly, Thank you for your thoughtful contribution. You’re always welcome to share your perspective here. I’ll pin this to the top in hopes of others reading and benefiting. Best, Joe
@@Joeysgonerogue Thankyou ..I really your analysis is correct although if we find a guy attractive, we find them attractive. And personally there’s a demographic of Filipina that really find western guys the most attractive.
Good morning Joey from Southern California, always appreciate the straight talk, if it only helps out one guy out of many, I'd call that a win. Best Wishes Always.
Hi Dutch, Thank you for watching and the well wishes. I truly appreciate it. Best, Joe
love your videos and topics. In this one it is my understanding that we cannot generalize too much in life because all cases are different. One thing to consider indeed is that most American expats here are not at the same level of understanding emotionally and financially, but mostly emotionally. Love is everywhere available for the right people and right understanding even in different "classes". Yes, it is good to warn many dummy expats because many women here are beauties, emotionally and in terms of giving unconditional love. I found a very classy women, very busy with her job 16 hours per day taking care of a family and their children. Thank you Joe, in a month or so I will be again in BGC and hope to have a cup of coffee with you and learn from your experience. Take care
Hi Paul, Great contribution here, thank you... I'm looking forward to meeting you soon. Best, Joe
As Tom Leykis said, "Men marry what they can afford."
Wow! I love that and have never heard it before. Thank much, Joe!
High class girls have more options rather than marry an elderly pensioner. The seniors are looking for poor province girls who need an opportunity in life.
100%
Spot on ..although the older guys will convince themselves that an uneducated poor province girls are the best fit for them.
I like your analysis and I agree that "High Class" Filipinas are seldom interested in foreigners. The reason why so many "Low Class" (no offence meant) Filipinas are interested in us is because they want to get out of poverty.
Hi! Thank you for watching and taking the time to write. I appreciate you contributing to the conversation. Best, Joe
@ChadPerfect-No different from the west..they know their worth.
True 💯
@@homebasebelgium359 Don’t we all want the best and hopefully the real true loves our lives..like our working lives we try our very best to make the most of our opportunities. And to be honest I would like a guy a can spend years and years with ..Happy hunting guys. God bless.
filipinas with highclass stature also marries foreigners but within their stature and age range not with an older guys
Nice vid. I agree 100%. My ex wife was a climber. Been there, done that.
Thank you! I’ve not heard the term “climber” before. Much better description of what I was trying to define. Thank you for the great contribution! Best, Joe
like the JB comparison. My children know songs you know by heart. I am a Cardinal, learned so much, but my roots are JB.
Love it!
I think "high class" generally means affluent (read rich). If I were to expatriate to the Philippines or Taiwan or Thailand or ... I would want to meet a professional (lawyer, teacher, nurse, etc.) working or retired woman who has her own money, whose kids (if any) are grown and gone, and who wants companionship with a western man. Young women from affluent families in their 20s or 30s would be very hard to meet let alone establish a relationship. There are more unattached attractive Filipinas in their 40s to 50s than one might think. Location is important but a satisfying relationship with a high character lady can be found if one is careful and patient. I spent about ten years visiting, working, and living all over the Pacific and they do exist.
Hi Mike, Excellent contribution, thank you!
12 Work/ +21 Vacation/ 45 Calendar Days until Civil Service Retirement/ 90 Days to my Six Month Trial in Cebu City. IF I meet someone... It's probably going to be someone that matches my background & interests. Education, Bookstores, Gaming... Most of the women in my family were in Healthcare...
I’m excited for you! There are a lot of women in the bookstores, and gaming is huge here too. You’ll be in heaven!
Haha! You mentioned about golf clubs, my hubby and I brought our clubs from UK to Philippines and I do yoga and pilates. I'll remind my husband today that I've come from a family of lawyers/liars hahaha!
Too funny, I love it, and I love it more that you two are living a great life! Thank you for watching and writing. Best, Joe.
YOu are very very correct! Highly educated and middle to higher class Filipinas also date yuppies, professionals, who are young, most of the time , their colleagues. Somebody who keeps up with their lifestyle. So, in cities like Baguio, Manila, etc, you rarely see old, western men dating or living with young women. If there are fireginers, these are likewise young, successful ones, he hehe
Spot on! Thank you for watching and writing, I very much appreciate your contribution here. Best, Joe
An exception to being with people of own kind is if that foreigner ( desirably) speaks the local language and is assimilated into the local culture both economically and socially. Then, there are fewer problems entering those families. If he is now a Filipino citizen, even better.
If you went to school there, and networked and went native, then, OK. Much easier. An FOB tourist or a retiree is not really that type.
Plus, young successful men outside of the PH rarely go to the PH to assimilate, integrate, start businesses, go to school there, etc.
Great points! I truly believe the amount of seemingly "special treatment" I receive is because I continue to make the effort to learn Tagalog and assimilate. People in every country appreciate it when foreigners are respectful. Thank you for watching and writing. Best regards, Joe
@@Joeysgonerogue I am now fluent in Tagalog and it is night and day. I am pretty much treated as a local. I also rarely get ripped off now.
One needs to keep in mind that Filipinos are not Japanese or Koreans. They are way, way less xenophobic. Still not Brazilians, by all means, but things become way easier when you become a speaker of the local language. But you need to speak it well.
Not just " mahal kita" and "kamusta ka".
My goddaughter once told me, "I always thought you were a pure White Filipino ".
Your fluency, though may be a minus if there is a girl who specifically looks for a
" porener" to practice English, show him off to her friends and eventually to emigrate to " the States".
Those are not interested in Pinoy Hilaw and Pinoy-Pinoyan.
I dated 2 "high class" Filipinas who were very normal. They mixed well in all situations. One didn't work and another worked normal hours.
Hi Vince, Thank you for contributing to the conversation. I’m glad to hear of your experience! Best, Joe
@@vince1012 Filipina yearn for a loving husband and family ..just we generally put some things on hold to achieve our short term goals ..if we vibe we vibe.
WRT to the "unicorn"...older, secure, unmarried or widowed Filipina. They may be rare but they do exist so don't exclude that age group if you're searching for a Filipina partner online.
Finding a unicorn would be marvelous! Thank you for the prompt to us all! Best, Joe.
Class is short for socioeconomic class... nothing wrong with that...
In that context, I whole heartedly agree. Best, Joe.
Duh, Filipinos divide themselves into social classes, usually by income.
I agree, but I find it distasteful. Money doesn’t make one sophisticated. It does make you more of whatever you are, and that ain’t always a good thing. Thanks for watching and contributing to the conversation. Best regards, Joe
I just want someone to chill with, no working required. Already did the serious life thing.
I’m with you!
Exactly!!
The run of the mill foreigners generally will not cut it with the modern city Filipina, guys that come here really have no idea about the professional Filipino and the society. The quality Filipina know there worth so whether Filipino or it be a western guy they will need to be on point to attract the true unicorns. Filipina are no different from other women …they will want the best mate they can get ..looks and security. And if your a guy that’s dated plethora of Filipina ..you’ll find your level, whether it be province or city modern, but for sure it’s easier to date the province girls as they are in rich supply. I personally only ended up dating city Filipina as it’s not my bag living in the province away from infrastructure..but each to there own.
Hi Eric, you nailed it! Nothing in life (income, quality of friendships, women, etc) exceeds our own value, at least not for long. Thank you for the great contribution. Best, Joe.
@@Joeysgonerogue All the best.
Curious. You have been in the Philippines for more than a year, and I’ve been following your Chanel since day 1. Do you still enjoy the Philippines? Or are you sick and tired of the inefficiencies there? Filipina in Texas is asking.
Can I answer? I both enjoy and do not enjoy. My last visit I was at a very big resort in Cavite. A great place, but they had no credit card terminal. I had to pay cash. So, that means I had to carry 12,000 pesos in cash on me. Who does that? They told me to go to an ATM. I took a long, long ride on the back of the motorcycle to the ATM, and had to pay for it, but the ATM was out of order. Had to go to another ATM very, very far.
Still wondering why in 2024, a huge resort would not take credit cards.
Then, I went to a cafe there and asked for a coke and they answered,
" We have no coke".
It is experiences like this that make me rethink actual living in the PH 365 days a year.
So, I visit, stay maybe 3 months at a time and then go.
I want to ask a proud Filipino why in countries around the PH, there is no such problem. They are also " poor" but they have credit card machines, their ATMs work, their products are not "out of stock". Same people with the same economy and the same face as Filipinos.
Don't get me wrong, I love the PH but I cannot live there all the time. I need to get out.
If I have to stay in the PH, I will stay in Angeles City. They have better services.
Hi, Thank you for watching for so long and taking time to write. I have very few "bad" days where I feel frustrated. I've pretty much settled in and only plan 1 thing per day if it requires some type of official action (immigration, banking, etc.). What I'm really impressed with (from an efficiency standpoint) is how much easier it is to get a doctor's appointment here than in the USA. When I left the US it took 2 months to see my primary care doc and over 6 months to schedule a colonoscopy. As far as enjoying the Philippine, I still love it; the kindness here is unlike anyplace I've been. Thank you again, Best, Joe
Who are we Joe? It seems you are not even in the country? I agree though, affluent Filipinas don't want anything to do with foreigners, or as a matter of fact nor with poor Filipinos, too.
Hi Alvin, We are people like me retired in the Philippines. I try not to say “you” as it feels like preaching to others. I am in the country and spend most of my time exploring on the motorcycle. Thank you for watching and writing. Best, Joe.
Yes they do but most foreigners will not fit their criteria.
Yup, it's a nonsensical idea to begin with. Wherever you are in the world, rich people date and marry rich people. Whodathunk it?
True! Thank you for watching and writing. I really appreciate it. Best, Joe.
I’m a Filipina who is a U.S. citizen. Both my parents were Filipinos and I remember my mom telling us (we were all girls, no boys) to get a good education, good job, and never, ever depend on anyone to feed us. So if anything happens in the relationship, we can take care of ourselves with dignity and with no fear. That was the best advice ever!
Good for you
Hi Pamela, You were blessed to a have wonderful mother to guide you and it sounds like you've made a great life! Thank you for watching, writing, and the channel support.. Best, Joe
@ChadPerfect-It will be a mistake for men if they think the old fashion way that women just need to take care of the house. Be a maid without a pay and serve the men. There are also men that want to stay home and have the women care for them. Why can’t it be both on the same page/goal and share.
@ChadPerfect- not biological. It is just a set of rigid ideas- expectations and behaviors, which is harmful to everyone. But Philippines are perfect for your expectations. I believe 75% of Filipinas there is very traditional. Wife stays home husband work. But won’t mostly work with big age gap beween foreigners ( a lot of them complains they were abandoned) and Filipina. I beilieve its exactly same reason. Younger girls didn’t see the world yet.
@ChadPerfect- Even though I’m educated and I’ve been successful with my career, I’ve been married for 34 years to the same man. There were plenty of times I almost gave up. However, here we are, still in love with each other. I guess it depends on who and what you are both fighting for……
Only non high value men aim for high earner women
Mike, Great observation... There may be a TON of truth in that statement. I'm pinning this one to the top. Best, Joe
@@Joeysgonerogue Awesome Joe. Keep up the great videos
Men generally do not date for money ..but high value women does not necessarily mean high earner..especially in the phil’s. As wages and jobs are not comparable as we know to western wage structure. Most foreigner guys in the phil’s simply will not meet the criteria for 1% of unicorn Filipina.
@@Eric-qm5xw Pretty outdated info to be honest. Its not uncommon to find people in the philippines earning $5000 a month. Just look at all the new SUVs and Pickup Trucks and Cars on the road. Those cost a lot of money, and it shouldnt be a surprise why there are hundreds and thousands of those expensive vehicles on the roads. Wealth has quadrupled in the Philippines over the past 10 years alone. I am now earning 8x more now than when i entered the workforce 6 years ago.
Of course, I wouldnt expect an expat to know these things if the only reliable source they've had is a filipina on the dating site who hasnt had a day of college or high school education. College education rates have grown significantly over the past decade, and currently, tertiary education rates are higher in the PH than america. 45% of Filipinos go to college, only 37% for great old America.
Simping brings nothing but misery 😂
100%
Dating a high class or busy professional is exhausting and expensive. No thank you. I prefer what I can tolerate and that is peaceful relaxation without stress. I already worked in the rat race for over 50 years. Now is my time to enjoy life with someone who has already finished her career.
Johnny, I couldn’t have said it better. Thank you, Joe
It goes both ways. You probably wouldn't be in their list as well
These women spend more money on a group dinner and a round of drinks than the average dude on pensions or disability..
STOP dreaming guys...
They are OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE,,
(I have lived here for years...I know these people well).
Harsh, but true. Thank you for watching and contributing! Best, Joe
Foreign guys will not generally mix in professional circles to meet the quality Filipina.