Here are timestamps for the video! 0:06 Intro 1:00 special stage 5:28 Day 1 7:30 Day 2 7:53 Comfort zone 8:18 Ring wrangler 1 9:39 You’re too slow! 11:07 Don’t look back 12:44 Ring wrangler 2 13:55 funds running dry 16:07 gambling intervention 20:24 day 3 20:35 King of the hill 21:33 Ring wrangler 3 22:38 Flawless fortress 23:18 CHAOS EMERALD HILL 26:37 stuck in the past + miles ahead 30:00 WEST SIDE ISLAND CHAMPION 37:49 outro
28:27 “guys,did you hear the news,apparently sonic 2 is a great video game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible” 25:08 “did you guys know that sonic 2 is a great video game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible” 22:27 “because sonic 2 is a great video game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible”
Tbh, while Sonic 2 isn’t a bad game at all, I still play Sonic 1 way more as it’s personally just way more fun for me as I like the stages (yes even Marble and Labyrinth) and especially the bonus stages more from the original 🙂
If you're wondering why there's no ring wrangler for every level? It's because some stages are impossible to get the perfect bonus due to rings being out of bounds over death planes Also 23:25 That's just the recommended sonic 2 playthrough experience why is that an achievement lmao
Me: there should be an achievement for clearing metropolis zone without getting hit or dying Also me immediately 30 seconds later: *gets hit and then softlocks at the end*
bro you would not believe the amount of times i tried beating sonic2 withouth dying until i got to metropolis' boss, got hit and saw all my rings fell through the floor
@@TotallyReliableDinoJust browsing the list of achievements, I think "go through Quartz Quadrant and defeat 80 badniks without taking damage" is way harder than anything Sonic 1 had to offer. That could just be me though.
I love your commentary. EWWSU might’ve kickstarted my love for this channel, these videos and the Save The Light challenges made my love for it grow even more. I’d love to see more gaming challenges in the future 👍
A little pattern I've learned in the Special Stages is that Bombs won't appear in "blindspots" when turning corners (aside from one or two exceptions) which really helped when getting the Chaos Emeralds
I don’t know if anyone already said this or not yet, but the reason pressing the D-Pad on a Diagonal Spring slows you down is actually the AIR SPEED CAP KICKING IN. Yeah, for whatever reason, Sonic 2 got rid of Sonic 1's ground speed cap, but NOT the air speed cap, making a lot of air movement in Sonic 2 feel stiff because pressing the D-Pad AT ALL in the air cuts your speed heavily, and it's so bad. Thankfully, Sonic 3 removed this unremoved cap.
The special stage sign posts are strategically placed, they are hard to get to on purpose. It's possible to get all 7 emeralds just in emerald hill. The challenge is welcome
ive been playing sonic2 for 10 years but i will admit that its really easy to get all chaos emeralds in emerald hill. Not because the challenge itself is easy but its because i played the hell out of this game and mastered the special stages. Remember that what you think is easy may be very hard to someone else
There's also ANOTHER thing that makes getting the emeralds even MORE bullshit, if you can believe it. You know how checkpoints only spawn the special stage portal when you trigger them? Well, when you trigger a checkpoint, the game sets the flag to trigger all the checkpoints that it considers to be earlier in the stage. So that means that if you reach a checkpoint that's really far in the act, you lose as many chances at getting the emeralds as the number of checkpoints you passed. Works great as a checkpoint system, but it's absolute DOGSHIT for the special stage system.
@@TailsMilesProwler-1 technically, they have! the original game has had a few revisions, particularly with knuckles in sonic 2 and the sonic jam version. as for the original sega genesis release, yeah as far as i'm aware you're outta luck
@@TailsMilesProwler-1 actually it had some updates depending on region/what version of the game you bought and etc: Original release is the second most common version after revision A which was the one massively produced worldwide Differences between revision A And original release are very minor like fixing the ring counter,The casino night post being slightly under the ground, and changing placement or names in the credits, however knuckles in sonic 2, sonic classics, the mega arcade version, sonic jam and sonic the hedgehog 3 Are Built On Revision B, weirdly enough other collections like Sega smashpack and mega collection use revision A, the additions in revision B Are Really Major Fixes Like Clipping when getting trying to get squashed While Panning Down the Camera and etc And the funny thing is there's no revision of Sonic 2 That Fixed The Perfect Bonus On Zones Outside Emerald Hill Lol
shout out to sonic origins for increasing the render distance on s2 special stages and letting you keep your rings after completing them and permitting retries
Wait... you're the "Everything Wrong with Steven Universe" guy from like 3 years ago. So glad I found this channel again cuz this video was honestly a delight
I should mention that Sonic 1 just got a revision, meaning you have no longer earned all of its cheevs... And... neither have I now. Maybe I should rectify that... Oh, it also has a Subset now, but considering that's entirely Ring Wrangler tasks...
4:01 I learned to do these special stages using the mobile port and was so happy when I didn’t need save states or multiple attempts on the original rom
Metropolis really isn’t that bad. I don’t know why everyone hates it on it constantly. It’s slightly more difficult than the rest of the game, and the rest of the game is piss easy
Did you guys know metropolis zone is the best zone the sonic franchise has ever seen and is better in every way possible that it's previous zones in every way possible?
And that's why you play the 2013 version of the game kids, the Emerald Hill achievement with the emeralds is incredibly easy there. (and I'm very impressed to see someone do it in the 92 version)
This was a great video man. Sonic 2 was one of the Sonic games I grew up with, along with Black Knight, Secret Rings, Unleashed (Wii), and Sonic 4: Episode 1.
You have no idea how vindicating and liberating it is to see someone absolutely despise this game with the same passion I do. I hate this game to an ungodly degree and to see someone else finally see it for what it is instead of glazing it as if it's not hands down the worst of the classic games is such a breath of fresh air.
Hey, congrats on mastering Sonic 2. I too mastered this game about a couple months ago, and yeah, some of the achievements such as deathless, and the special stages definitely required a lot of muscle memory. I couldn't tell you how annoyed I was about the few times that I was at the final boss to only die because the bounce back upon hitting the final boss wouldn't work at times. And tails... I had to play them both separately because Tails was such a liability when it came to bosses and special stages. Lastly, I'm glad I wasn't the only one that went Super Sonic on a deathless run only to end up clipping through the lava and dying lol. Again, congrats on mastering Sonic 2. If or when you do go for Sonic CD I must give you fair warning, be prepared to spend multiple hours for a lot of single achievements. I have war flashbacks for how insane some of the achievements are.
I agree with most of your criticisms, but blaming the game for not taking into consideration that you can get all 7 emeralds in the first level makes no sense. Obviously it wasn't intended, so checkpoints behind the current one activating isn't an issue for 99% of people. At the end of the day it's a self-imposed challenge by fans, not developers. Blame RetroAchievements
@@SayoriTheCinnamonBun2015He should really study the fact that Sonic 2 is a great video game that's well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible.
the diagonal springs slow you down because moving yourself (with the d-pad) brings the air horizontal speed cap (which things that move you, rather than you moving yourself, often override) into effect. sonic 1 had this on the ground too which is why after e.g. bouncing off a horizontal spring holding a direction would slow you down in that game
Actually I think the checkpoints in this game was made completely with the idea of special stages in mind. If would make sense for the completely nonsensical placement of them if they placed them as a means for difficult special stage access rather than progression saving.
27:40 That badnik is actually coded wrong, as each ball segment you see when it extend out its arm has a massive hitbox, when it shouldn't. Edit: Also S3, S&K and S3&K are 3 seperate games, so will you complete all 3 or just S3&K?
@@Supersonic1014 Also, I was looking through my RA profile for if II had missed out on any games, and Sonic 1 has 12 new achievements. Will you go back to Sonic 1 or just leave it be? Also, one is a deathless one.
This video made me realize that sonic 2 is a great video game that is well designed and better than it's prequel in every way possible, thank you Supersonic1014
On 11:08~12:04: Here is the explanation regarding Level Select protection that Sonic 2 MD Set had (at the time of your video) on RetroAchievements: Usually, when you activate Level Select, the game sets a TRUE flag (0x01) inside the Console RAM on its dedicated address (0x00ffe1) which is permanent only to be resetted to 0x00 by a Hardware Reset (Reloading the Rom also works). Of course, there might be a way to check if the Player accessed that Level Select screen or not. However, its expected to be more complicated than just using that dedicated address I mentioned to do the job since you will be checking for Screen IDs instead of checking for LS activation itself.
5:38 Never seen that before! You got ejected out of a wall in the opposite direction. Then got spat out of a loop without going around the loop. 5:47 There's a multitude of ways for Super Sonic to get killed in that Zone. And I've seen that glitch before, so that one is quite common. 8:59 That's the Aerial Speed Cap for you. They gave unlimited speed cap on the ground, but forgot to do so for the air. They fixed that quirk in Sonic 3. 15:12 Dead. That's where you are right now. Can't say I've seen that before xD 22:04 What!? That is so stupid! I didn't even know about that xD 27:28 Screw that friggin' glitched ass hitbox badnik. "Thanks asshole!". I concur
really entertaining video, although i will say i don’t think your enjoyment/liking of sonic 2 as a whole should be dependent on the achievements fans made decades later but if that’s how you prefer to play games i ain’t the fun police or anything lol
It's not really the achievements that cause my dislike of Sonic 2, I've not liked it for years even before the achievements, the achievements just happen to highlight the things I already don't like about it.
For me personally, the special stage system in this game is one of my favorite things. You can just get 50 rings in Emerald Hill act 1, touch a checkpoint, get an emerald, get 50 rings again due to the rings respawning, get a different checkpoint, get the second emerald, and ultimately have super sonic in like Emerald Hill act 2 or Chemical Plant act 1 ( can't remember what it all works out to due to the number of checkpoints in each level), thus letting you use super sonic for the whole game Edit: In a normal playthrough, I find this very convenient, but getting to the part of the video where there's an achievement for specifically doing it all in Emerald Hill, I can see how that would then become really annoying, since it goes from "you can get in emerald hill if you feel like it" to "you *have* to get them all in emerald hill" which then open you up to the frustration of accidentally messing up and having to restart. So yeah i think I would find that achievement annoying too.
I remember when I mastered Sonic 2 back in 2022. I felt good when I got the no spindash, Tails playthrough, and no death achievement all at once. I had a fun time with most of the achievements, not so much with the no ring achievments, although I did a debug on Aquatic Ruin Zone and got it anyway, even though I wasn't supposed to. Ahaha. I mastered Sonic 1 in a single night, but it took me a few days or perhaps a week(?) to master Sonic 2.
Special stages were super tricky for me to get, I realized having Tails with me made it impossible, so I just booted up level select and grinded them out until I memorized them (damn 7th one).
I feel bad for your suffering in Sonic 2, I once played it, and literally had to do so much tries on special stage 3. Oh and I use the mobile version of it. Anyways, the 2 Death Egg bosses were much painful than Sky Chase and Metropolis. Speaking of Metropolis… I actually dodged the badniks with the blades. Oh and also Emerald Hill, Hill Top, and Aquatic Ruin are not that horrible. I beat those stages. The bosses were fine. But seriously, SEGA added a third act for NO reason. But finally, I learned a sound test code that can give me Super Sonic without the chaos emeralds. Anyways that’s all for this comment. Oh, and that part at 31:34 was really unlucky and caught me off guard, also at 28:42, you literally sounded like SEGA Sonic if he was falling.
These "No Ring" achievements would make Ceave Gaming proud, as I remember them doing a lot of videos where they mention "shiny yet deadly coins" in Mario games. So, if I ever take on this challenge (which isn't happening any time soon), and attempt the No Ring achievements, I'm gonna take to calling the rings "shiny yet deadly rings".
Sonic 2 on Genesis was the first Sonic game I ever played, and despite enjoying it a lot despite its flaws, its level design to me feels lacking compared to both Sonic 1 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles. First half has levels that feel kinda empty and underpopulated, and second half (Oil Ocean and onwards) feel filled with artifical difficultly. Sonic 1 by comparison, in my opinion had levels more populated with enemies and hazards, and a smoother less abrupt difficulty curve through the game. Sonic 2's flaws show just how troubled its development was.
The further i got into the vodeo the more i started to agree with you. This game is HORRIBLY designed. Makes sense for it being made in only a few months.
Not to brag, but collecting every Chaos Emerald in Emerald Hill Zone is really easy, whether you play the original release of newer releases like Origins.
The next video: i got every achievement in sanic2 in the video:DID YOU KNOW THAT SANIC2 IS A WELL DESIGNED GAME BETTER THAN ITS PREQUEL SANIC1 IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE?
Worth noting: Sonic 2 was not designed with an achievement system in mind. By all accounts, all you need to do is collect the chaos emeralds, and beat the game.
heres something I realized in Metropolis Zone.....ever noticed how all the badniks look remarkably like Pokemon? There's Staryu, Kingler, and Scyther....oh one more thing; Sonic 2 is a great game that is better than it's prequel in EVERY way!!!
![WHAT IF? SONIC AND TAILS NEVER MET? [REMASTERED] Parts 1-3 | What if Sonic](/img/n.gif)
this video is also gay
Thats gay
this comment is gay (and so is this reply)
the stream flashbacks are kicking in
THE COMMENTS ABOVE ME IS MEGA GAY!!!
@@fireytehspartan this reply is gayer than the others
something interesting to note is that sonic 2 is a great game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible
Here are timestamps for the video!
0:06 Intro
1:00 special stage
5:28 Day 1
7:30 Day 2
7:53 Comfort zone
8:18 Ring wrangler 1
9:39 You’re too slow!
11:07 Don’t look back
12:44 Ring wrangler 2
13:55 funds running dry
16:07 gambling intervention
20:24 day 3
20:35 King of the hill
21:33 Ring wrangler 3
22:38 Flawless fortress
23:18 CHAOS EMERALD HILL
26:37 stuck in the past + miles ahead
30:00 WEST SIDE ISLAND CHAMPION
37:49 outro
Finally, I've been immortalized in a SS1014 video, with my amazing quote of calling oil ocean a sea of petroleum
congratulations
nice
Noice
28:27 “guys,did you hear the news,apparently sonic 2 is a great video game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible”
25:08 “did you guys know that sonic 2 is a great video game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible”
22:27 “because sonic 2 is a great video game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible”
OK I GET IT SUPERSONIC2014
I’m not him I’m just timelapsing every single “S2IAGVGTIWDABTIPIEWP” he said lol
I know im just talking as i was saying it to him
HEY!!! DID YOU KNOW THAT SONIC 2 IS BETTER THAN ITS PREQUEL IN EVERY FUCKING WAY!!!!!!!!
Is he talking about Sonic CD?
Say it with me "SONIC 2 IS A GREAT GAME THAT IS WELL DESIGNED AND BETTER THAN ITS PREQUEL IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE
SONIC 3K IS A GREAT GAME THAT IS WELL DESIGNED AND BETTER THAN ITS PREQUEL IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE
SONIC 4 IS A GREAT GAME THAT IS WELL DESIGNED AND BETTER THEN ITS PREQUEL IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE
@@solarchromeYou better be talking about Sonic Mania boah….
@Im2lazy4thisCrit I ffogot about the failure that was sonic 4 and tbh sonic Mania is in my opinion better then 1,2,3 and 4
Tbh, while Sonic 2 isn’t a bad game at all, I still play Sonic 1 way more as it’s personally just way more fun for me as I like the stages (yes even Marble and Labyrinth) and especially the bonus stages more from the original 🙂
If you're wondering why there's no ring wrangler for every level? It's because some stages are impossible to get the perfect bonus due to rings being out of bounds over death planes
Also 23:25 That's just the recommended sonic 2 playthrough experience why is that an achievement lmao
WAIT THERES 8 SPECIAL STAGE ENTRANCES IN EMERALD HILL? I only knew of 7 lmao
Me: there should be an achievement for clearing metropolis zone without getting hit or dying
Also me immediately 30 seconds later: *gets hit and then softlocks at the end*
Loving this
No replies? Lemme fix that
everybody's chill until the gaming youtuber overlays fire over the screen while screaming
bro you would not believe the amount of times i tried beating sonic2 withouth dying until i got to metropolis' boss, got hit and saw all my rings fell through the floor
Not doing the sonic cd achievements is the best decision because it has 102 ACHIEVEMENTS
I did it and I have to say it's not That hard , it's like on the level of sonic 1
What about Sonic 3?
@@LolManI-75 sonic 3 standalone has 29 achievements,however S3&K has 53 achievements
@@TotallyReliableDino Oh.....ok
@@TotallyReliableDinoJust browsing the list of achievements, I think "go through Quartz Quadrant and defeat 80 badniks without taking damage" is way harder than anything Sonic 1 had to offer. That could just be me though.
I love your commentary.
EWWSU might’ve kickstarted my love for this channel, these videos and the Save The Light challenges made my love for it grow even more. I’d love to see more gaming challenges in the future 👍
bro sounds like the average 2010s sonic reviewer
cybershell core
Ye
A little pattern I've learned in the Special Stages is that Bombs won't appear in "blindspots" when turning corners (aside from one or two exceptions) which really helped when getting the Chaos Emeralds
As someone who’s currently finishing all the special stages with Tails, I winced when I saw the title. I know exactly how you feel, man.
I don’t know if anyone already said this or not yet, but the reason pressing the D-Pad on a Diagonal Spring slows you down is actually the AIR SPEED CAP KICKING IN. Yeah, for whatever reason, Sonic 2 got rid of Sonic 1's ground speed cap, but NOT the air speed cap, making a lot of air movement in Sonic 2 feel stiff because pressing the D-Pad AT ALL in the air cuts your speed heavily, and it's so bad. Thankfully, Sonic 3 removed this unremoved cap.
hey supersonic1014, did you know that sonic 2 is a great game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible?
Supersonic1014: NO
Why do u think he didnt anwser
Its his opinion though
The special stage sign posts are strategically placed, they are hard to get to on purpose. It's possible to get all 7 emeralds just in emerald hill. The challenge is welcome
ive been playing sonic2 for 10 years but i will admit that its really easy to get all chaos emeralds in emerald hill. Not because the challenge itself is easy but its because i played the hell out of this game and mastered the special stages.
Remember that what you think is easy may be very hard to someone else
@@KperaOfficial yeah ive been playing it for 15 years on and off
Wanna know what happens when the special stage ring opens?
When you enter, you spend ALL your rings. It's called paying the rings.
There's also ANOTHER thing that makes getting the emeralds even MORE bullshit, if you can believe it. You know how checkpoints only spawn the special stage portal when you trigger them? Well, when you trigger a checkpoint, the game sets the flag to trigger all the checkpoints that it considers to be earlier in the stage. So that means that if you reach a checkpoint that's really far in the act, you lose as many chances at getting the emeralds as the number of checkpoints you passed. Works great as a checkpoint system, but it's absolute DOGSHIT for the special stage system.
Yeah it's like The Checkpoints weren't Designed At All As A Portal To The Fucking Special Stages
He said that already
@@TailsMilesProwler-1 Sega : Yeah definitely gonna update That 32 year old game bc of a TH-cam comment 🥶
@@TailsMilesProwler-1 technically, they have! the original game has had a few revisions, particularly with knuckles in sonic 2 and the sonic jam version. as for the original sega genesis release, yeah as far as i'm aware you're outta luck
@@TailsMilesProwler-1 actually it had some updates depending on region/what version of the game you bought and etc:
Original release is the second most common version after revision A which was the one massively produced worldwide
Differences between revision A And original release are very minor like fixing the ring counter,The casino night post being slightly under the ground, and changing placement or names in the credits, however knuckles in sonic 2, sonic classics, the mega arcade version, sonic jam and sonic the hedgehog 3 Are Built On Revision B, weirdly enough other collections like Sega smashpack and mega collection use revision A, the additions in revision B Are Really Major Fixes Like Clipping when getting trying to get squashed While Panning Down the Camera and etc
And the funny thing is there's no revision of Sonic 2 That Fixed The Perfect Bonus On Zones Outside Emerald Hill Lol
shout out to sonic origins for increasing the render distance on s2 special stages and letting you keep your rings after completing them and permitting retries
they already added the 3d special stages in the mobile remaster of 2013, the origins version is just a port of that remaster
@@KperaOfficial I already knew that, but who tf is playing sonic on a phone, touch controls and sonic mix like butter and gasoline
@@drakordarkstarI play sonic on a phone ;-; (only for the achievements)
@@MaxusYT592 dude, massive respect for taking the time to get good with the unstable touch controls props for that.
@@drakordarkstar yo thx, but honestly, I find it kinda easy
Wait... you're the "Everything Wrong with Steven Universe" guy from like 3 years ago. So glad I found this channel again cuz this video was honestly a delight
I should mention that Sonic 1 just got a revision, meaning you have no longer earned all of its cheevs...
And... neither have I now. Maybe I should rectify that...
Oh, it also has a Subset now, but considering that's entirely Ring Wrangler tasks...
4:01 I learned to do these special stages using the mobile port and was so happy when I didn’t need save states or multiple attempts on the original rom
"The Diabolical Script"
oh, please. nothing was more diabolical than metropolis zone. ☺️
Metropolis really isn’t that bad. I don’t know why everyone hates it on it constantly. It’s slightly more difficult than the rest of the game, and the rest of the game is piss easy
Exactly, Metropolis is still easy as hell.
Man, the "stuck in the past" achievement hits different when you get back from playing S1.
I like the part where I say “yeehaw gamers”
Why did I say “yeehaw gamers”
Yeehaw gamers
Something tells me that this game wasn’t designed for achievements.
and you *can* say that you don't like some achivements or some parts of a game that was not designed for them
28:42 Sonic in the SegaSonic arcade game when he falls:
Isn’t there a Acheivement for not touching water in chemical plant.
That’s impossible
Fr theres literally mostly water in most of act 2
@@TailsMilesProwler-1 no, in the app version, it’s an achievement
this doesn't have the same achievements as sonic 2 2011
@@TailsMilesProwler-1 it's literally possible
4:37 It's just pain for me like imagine you get the final sol emerald and you don't have 50 rings but you remember you had 50 rings.
The Usage of The Other Promise for the Final Achievement really hits on point with "Grief, suffering, Regret", Good choice!
Who made the remix for it, actually?
It's actually really good, compare to the original.
@@Rob_Callistis Dunno tbh? It sounded like the original song to me.
Did you guys know metropolis zone is the best zone the sonic franchise has ever seen and is better in every way possible that it's previous zones in every way possible?
Dude "studio" ain't that hard to misspell 😃🔫
@@MaxusYT592 ?
@@tomasdariuspaun7586 I'm talking about studiopolis from Sonic mania, that zone and every other "polis" are better than metropolis
@@MaxusYT592 ah got it. You are very correct
thanks for the helpful info.
8:50 Ah yes, ACHIEVEMENTS.
And that's why you play the 2013 version of the game kids, the Emerald Hill achievement with the emeralds is incredibly easy there. (and I'm very impressed to see someone do it in the 92 version)
_gets to the deathless attempts_
Yep, the exact same spot that kept getting in my way!
Well, the same Zone at least.
This was a great video man. Sonic 2 was one of the Sonic games I grew up with, along with Black Knight, Secret Rings, Unleashed (Wii), and Sonic 4: Episode 1.
You have no idea how vindicating and liberating it is to see someone absolutely despise this game with the same passion I do. I hate this game to an ungodly degree and to see someone else finally see it for what it is instead of glazing it as if it's not hands down the worst of the classic games is such a breath of fresh air.
22:26 the best thing you said in this video unironically.
People who say sonic 2 is a good game have never actually played it before and just say it because tails is in it
Mann your content is so good you deserve way more subscribers❤❤
SONIC 2 IS PEAK LIL BUDDY
Yeah, but not metropolis
Bro ur the reason i use retroachivements now so its so cool to see you doing it again with sonic 2!
Hey, congrats on mastering Sonic 2. I too mastered this game about a couple months ago, and yeah, some of the achievements such as deathless, and the special stages definitely required a lot of muscle memory. I couldn't tell you how annoyed I was about the few times that I was at the final boss to only die because the bounce back upon hitting the final boss wouldn't work at times. And tails... I had to play them both separately because Tails was such a liability when it came to bosses and special stages. Lastly, I'm glad I wasn't the only one that went Super Sonic on a deathless run only to end up clipping through the lava and dying lol.
Again, congrats on mastering Sonic 2. If or when you do go for Sonic CD I must give you fair warning, be prepared to spend multiple hours for a lot of single achievements. I have war flashbacks for how insane some of the achievements are.
I agree with most of your criticisms, but blaming the game for not taking into consideration that you can get all 7 emeralds in the first level makes no sense.
Obviously it wasn't intended, so checkpoints behind the current one activating isn't an issue for 99% of people. At the end of the day it's a self-imposed challenge by fans, not developers. Blame RetroAchievements
I think he forgot that Sonic 2 is a great video game that's well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible.
he really should remember that Sonic 2 is a great game that's well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible.
@@solarchrome Sonic 2 is a great game that's well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible.
@@SayoriTheCinnamonBun2015He should really study the fact that Sonic 2 is a great video game that's well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible.
I don't think it's been alighted on yet just how well designed Sonic 2 is when compared to its predecessor 😂
tbh I’d watch an entire video talking about the best and worst of sonic’s level design
the diagonal springs slow you down because moving yourself (with the d-pad) brings the air horizontal speed cap (which things that move you, rather than you moving yourself, often override) into effect. sonic 1 had this on the ground too which is why after e.g. bouncing off a horizontal spring holding a direction would slow you down in that game
Actually I think the checkpoints in this game was made completely with the idea of special stages in mind. If would make sense for the completely nonsensical placement of them if they placed them as a means for difficult special stage access rather than progression saving.
Idk, some of his complaints come across as whiny to me, and I feel it were any other Sonic game that had similar jank he would glaze it over
One must imagine Sisyphus happy
*Just put in The code on The screen.*
32:30
P A I N
5:52 bro took fall damage as super sonic ☠
27:40 That badnik is actually coded wrong, as each ball segment you see when it extend out its arm has a massive hitbox, when it shouldn't.
Edit: Also S3, S&K and S3&K are 3 seperate games, so will you complete all 3 or just S3&K?
I'm just doing Sonic 3 & Knuckles for now. Maybe I'll do the other 2 games as their own video.
@@Supersonic1014 Also, I was looking through my RA profile for if II had missed out on any games, and Sonic 1 has 12 new achievements. Will you go back to Sonic 1 or just leave it be? Also, one is a deathless one.
Your edit is incorrect. Sonic 3, Sonic and Knuckles, and Sonic 3 and Knuckles are all the same game. They are all Sonic 3.
Sucks that tails can’t fly by himself in this
This video made me realize that sonic 2 is a great video game that is well designed and better than it's prequel in every way possible, thank you Supersonic1014
Finally someone calls out this shitty game, I swear people pretend to like it, bunch of zombie robots.
This guy is mad underrated, hope you get more popular
@ 20:59 It's me! Love the video!
On 11:08~12:04: Here is the explanation regarding Level Select protection that Sonic 2 MD Set had (at the time of your video) on RetroAchievements:
Usually, when you activate Level Select, the game sets a TRUE flag (0x01) inside the Console RAM on its dedicated address (0x00ffe1) which is permanent only to be resetted to 0x00 by a Hardware Reset (Reloading the Rom also works). Of course, there might be a way to check if the Player accessed that Level Select screen or not. However, its expected to be more complicated than just using that dedicated address I mentioned to do the job since you will be checking for Screen IDs instead of checking for LS activation itself.
The Roxas theme during the nightmare that is day 4 is so true
28:42 That "WAAAAAAAA" was personal 😂
5:38 Never seen that before! You got ejected out of a wall in the opposite direction. Then got spat out of a loop without going around the loop.
5:47 There's a multitude of ways for Super Sonic to get killed in that Zone. And I've seen that glitch before, so that one is quite common.
8:59 That's the Aerial Speed Cap for you. They gave unlimited speed cap on the ground, but forgot to do so for the air. They fixed that quirk in Sonic 3.
15:12 Dead. That's where you are right now. Can't say I've seen that before xD
22:04 What!? That is so stupid! I didn't even know about that xD
27:28 Screw that friggin' glitched ass hitbox badnik. "Thanks asshole!". I concur
really entertaining video, although i will say i don’t think your enjoyment/liking of sonic 2 as a whole should be dependent on the achievements fans made decades later
but if that’s how you prefer to play games i ain’t the fun police or anything lol
It's not really the achievements that cause my dislike of Sonic 2, I've not liked it for years even before the achievements, the achievements just happen to highlight the things I already don't like about it.
32:30 bro was so over he let out the peppino scream
For me personally, the special stage system in this game is one of my favorite things. You can just get 50 rings in Emerald Hill act 1, touch a checkpoint, get an emerald, get 50 rings again due to the rings respawning, get a different checkpoint, get the second emerald, and ultimately have super sonic in like Emerald Hill act 2 or Chemical Plant act 1 ( can't remember what it all works out to due to the number of checkpoints in each level), thus letting you use super sonic for the whole game
Edit: In a normal playthrough, I find this very convenient, but getting to the part of the video where there's an achievement for specifically doing it all in Emerald Hill, I can see how that would then become really annoying, since it goes from "you can get in emerald hill if you feel like it" to "you *have* to get them all in emerald hill" which then open you up to the frustration of accidentally messing up and having to restart. So yeah i think I would find that achievement annoying too.
That outro SYNCED with the music! Good work!
RA has given me so much new life into my old games, it's quite remarkable. I'd never try this one tho, kudos 😂
I've never seen ppl making this type of vids using RA achievements before. But I'm so happy that it's actually a thing
I remember when I mastered Sonic 2 back in 2022. I felt good when I got the no spindash, Tails playthrough, and no death achievement all at once.
I had a fun time with most of the achievements, not so much with the no ring achievments, although I did a debug on Aquatic Ruin Zone and got it anyway, even though I wasn't supposed to. Ahaha.
I mastered Sonic 1 in a single night, but it took me a few days or perhaps a week(?) to master Sonic 2.
im just glad they didn’t make a achievement to get every ring in metropolis
Honestly for the 7 emeralds in emerald hill, u could’ve just restarted the stage every time you finish a stage or 2. Saves time and sanity.
you cant do that in the OG game, thats exploit only works on the mobile ports
@@KperaOfficial ohh I didn’t know that, mb.
Weirdly enough reseting the game fully by pressing the reset button on original hardware saves your chaos emerald count if you play as sonic only
As A Sonic Pro, You Have Only Scratched The Surface! But Keep It Up Pal!
Me watching you bitch about sonic 2's bonus stages and I'm like, I've never had that much trouble with them, even with tails. Love the video anyway~
9:39 close to how Sonic said it
Sonic 2 is well designed
if you don't care about getting good endings
Special stages were super tricky for me to get, I realized having Tails with me made it impossible, so I just booted up level select and grinded them out until I memorized them (damn 7th one).
5:58 ur glad you missed the crash barrier. You would've needed to restart or go to your last save
Save?
He is using the retroarch emulator, he also said in his sonic 1 vid that he had to save a lot through certain parts, so yeah
I feel bad for your suffering in Sonic 2, I once played it, and literally had to do so much tries on special stage 3. Oh and I use the mobile version of it. Anyways, the 2 Death Egg bosses were much painful than Sky Chase and Metropolis. Speaking of Metropolis… I actually dodged the badniks with the blades. Oh and also Emerald Hill, Hill Top, and Aquatic Ruin are not that horrible. I beat those stages. The bosses were fine. But seriously, SEGA added a third act for NO reason. But finally, I learned a sound test code that can give me Super Sonic without the chaos emeralds. Anyways that’s all for this comment.
Oh, and that part at 31:34 was really unlucky and caught me off guard, also at 28:42, you literally sounded like SEGA Sonic if he was falling.
34:19 music sync moment
These "No Ring" achievements would make Ceave Gaming proud, as I remember them doing a lot of videos where they mention "shiny yet deadly coins" in Mario games. So, if I ever take on this challenge (which isn't happening any time soon), and attempt the No Ring achievements, I'm gonna take to calling the rings "shiny yet deadly rings".
Bro, Ceave Gaming gang!
Sonic 2 on Genesis was the first Sonic game I ever played, and despite enjoying it a lot despite its flaws, its level design to me feels lacking compared to both Sonic 1 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
First half has levels that feel kinda empty and underpopulated, and second half (Oil Ocean and onwards) feel filled with artifical difficultly.
Sonic 1 by comparison, in my opinion had levels more populated with enemies and hazards, and a smoother less abrupt difficulty curve through the game. Sonic 2's flaws show just how troubled its development was.
The further i got into the vodeo the more i started to agree with you. This game is HORRIBLY designed. Makes sense for it being made in only a few months.
Not to brag, but collecting every Chaos Emerald in Emerald Hill Zone is really easy, whether you play the original release of newer releases like Origins.
We need CD ,3, and 3d blast
all of the glitches you got in this video i have never experienced. in fact, ive never come across a gltich in Sonic 2.
Sonic 2 is perfectly programmed with no bugs whatsoever. This is a joke
retro achievements content gives me life
Sonic 1 is overhated tbh, while Sonic 2 gets away with its way more punishing gameplay (especially the special zone).
31:59 Ride em cowboy!
Great video on a great game that is well designed and better than its prequel in every way possible!
Oh, the suffering. You did great, my friend.
The next video: i got every achievement in sanic2 in the video:DID YOU KNOW THAT SANIC2 IS A WELL DESIGNED GAME BETTER THAN ITS PREQUEL SANIC1 IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE?
32:52 “You have to put this CD- up your a-“
Is what I think he was trying to say before his pc broke
Sonci 2 is a great videogame that is well designed and better than it's prequel in every way possible.
rare footage of a sonic fan complaining on sonic 2 special stages
Worth noting: Sonic 2 was not designed with an achievement system in mind. By all accounts, all you need to do is collect the chaos emeralds, and beat the game.
Something about Sonic 2 that’s interesting is that Sonic 2 is a great game that is well designed and better than it’s prequels in every way possible
🔥 RetroArch Time 🔥
heres something I realized in Metropolis Zone.....ever noticed how all the badniks look remarkably like Pokemon? There's Staryu, Kingler, and Scyther....oh one more thing;
Sonic 2 is a great game that is better than it's prequel in EVERY way!!!
I remember that when i was a kid i used to make my own routes to get all of the emeralds in Emeralid Hill, it became second nature
HOW EASY IT WOULD BE IF TAILS COULD FLY IN THIS GAME!!!