Things I've learned about woodworking: everything you do will take twice as long as planned, and most industry promises of "easy" and "simple" blah blah blah, are never quite that easy or simple.
I was looking into these and now that I've seen his video I will get them very simple, and I like simple. I like this guy and his explanation, he's funny and not grumpy like some.
I am currently trying these on an existing kitchen cabinet. I’m having to rebuild the internal framing as it didn’t exist. Finally got the first one installed. Had to get the side frames to 1/16 on each side for it to work. Be aware.
Note that you cannot use these on the bottom drawer, which I install first as a reference for those above. Clever, but with a few pieces of plywood and squeeze clamps, you can accomplish the same task.
This was a very good, clear, concise review. A torpedo level would be helpful in ensuring that the slide jig has not slipped. Kreg should've put a level in the jig. Take note that there are similar products available. I probably will buy these Kreg jigs for a drawer project.
yea I have just used a straight edge and a level so depending on the price I may or may not ... but for sho the self adjusting clamps, I replaced my vice grips with self adjusting ones and winner, so for clamps they are worth the money, bought a few of them, and just like the vice grips, its worth it not fussing with that knob for large adjustments, only tiny pressure ones
Soft close and drawer glides in general require a higher 'level' of precision. Kreg jigs help a lot. I've used them numerous times after other 'handymen' installed soft close drawer glides in a conversion and they would not soft close.
Maybe I missed something here. It looks like it installs the slide in the cabinet about a half inch above your line for where the bottom of the drawer was suppose to be. Then when you flipped them over it looked like the bottom of the drawer was flush with the bottom of the slides.
The front end of the jig is lower by about that much. Only the first inch or so of the jig. I should probably read the manual to see if that is explained... Maybe tomorrow... 😁
I bought clamps at Harbor freight for $6.95 each and they are far better than these expensive Kreg clamps. The drawer slide jig doesn't work at all unless your drawers are made of balsa wood. They sag when you put weight on them no matter how tightly they are clamped.
ON a side note, it seems it would be safer for your hands, for your material and for the teeth of your table saw if you lowered the blade below the table surface while working on or around the saw table.
Love the lack of ads and sponsorships on your channel. The new style of clamp is called Automaxx - and the reviews on Amazon are very bad. I'll stick with my Harbor Freight knockoffs, they work great for putting in lots of pocket holes in material that is the same width.
Hmmm, 434 ratings on Amazon.com and 4.5 stars out of five. 337 ratings on Amazon.ca and also 4.5 stars. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess I'll just have to give it a year and see if my opinion changes.
I will second the dislike for the Automaxx, I have one and it is very difficult to adjust the small wheel that adjust the clamping pressure. The Wheel needs to be bigger and at the end like the conventional vise grips. I also have found the clamping pressure is not the same on various thickness of stock. Armor company makes a similar product that works much better
What is it about the Rockler's don't you like, I watched some videos on both and I seem to like the Rockler's better but they don't seem to provide a solution for supporting the drawer when attaching the slide to the drawer like the Kreg's. Not sure which ones to get now.
@@jac_builtWoodworks yes, that's it.. You cant install the slider to the drawer, and you have to be creative. Plus, the spacer rod is not that accurate and does not fit in some places.
A jig should make a process repeatable and easier to do, these do not do that very well. I have a set that I bought and I find using spacers and plywood gives me much more reliable results. I love Kreg's products, just not these. The clamps are great - they are not included, so buy them and skip the supports.
"for a few bucks" ... Kreg is like the apple of the tool world. You can't use those jigs with standard clamps, you have to buy the kreg "face clamps" too. Sucks
Kreg products are crap. Cheaply made and overly complicated. This thing can be replaced with a2x4 with a straight edge or even a small piece of plywood. Amazing the crap people will buy!
I’ve always thought about getting a set of the drawer slide jigs. After seeing your video I think I will just make some out of plywood.
quicker and cheaper, at least you can make the material long enough for it not drop at the front.
I’d encourage it because this jig really is for shit
Thanks...Clear presentation and addressed the issue I was having with the jig drifting even when clamped!
Things I've learned about woodworking: everything you do will take twice as long as planned, and most industry promises of "easy" and "simple" blah blah blah, are never quite that easy or simple.
Doing it manually is easy enough, but this is very nice to have. Just ordered a set.
I was looking into these and now that I've seen his video I will get them very simple, and I like simple. I like this guy and his explanation, he's funny and not grumpy like some.
You're not smart and you're bad at everything.
I am currently trying these on an existing kitchen cabinet. I’m having to rebuild the internal framing as it didn’t exist. Finally got the first one installed. Had to get the side frames to 1/16 on each side for it to work. Be aware.
Thanks You for your tools.
My 30x24” drawer fell on me while I was trying to reattach the clamps after they slipped. I hate the clamps I got. They need to be set before using.
Looks pretty handy, I will have to look into getting a set!
It's literally a plastic 2x4.
Note that you cannot use these on the bottom drawer, which I install first as a reference for those above. Clever, but with a few pieces of plywood and squeeze clamps, you can accomplish the same task.
This was a very good, clear, concise review. A torpedo level would be helpful in ensuring that the slide jig has not slipped. Kreg should've put a level in the jig. Take note that there are similar products available. I probably will buy these Kreg jigs for a drawer project.
Awesome. THx for the vid
Have those jigs and clamps , And this made it easier to Understand them1 Thanks Art! I use those Clamps A lot for other tasks
What about cabinets with a face frame
Then you hold the jig on the inside behind the face frame. The Kreg Instructions cover that: th-cam.com/video/GGWwZUpJLbU/w-d-xo.html
yea I have just used a straight edge and a level so depending on the price I may or may not ... but for sho the self adjusting clamps, I replaced my vice grips with self adjusting ones and winner, so for clamps they are worth the money, bought a few of them, and just like the vice grips, its worth it not fussing with that knob for large adjustments, only tiny pressure ones
Nice video thank you.
Soft close and drawer glides in general require a higher 'level' of precision. Kreg jigs help a lot. I've used them numerous times after other 'handymen' installed soft close drawer glides in a conversion and they would not soft close.
Maybe I missed something here. It looks like it installs the slide in the cabinet about a half inch above your line for where the bottom of the drawer was suppose to be. Then when you flipped them over it looked like the bottom of the drawer was flush with the bottom of the slides.
The front end of the jig is lower by about that much. Only the first inch or so of the jig. I should probably read the manual to see if that is explained... Maybe tomorrow... 😁
I feel affirmed watching you struggle with this jig, lol. I tried it for the first time this week. Call me underwhelmed.
Thank you I like I will now get some.
That bit @4:49 is very important - worth watching this video for...
Those jigs are more difficult to use if you don't have cabinet sidewalls and have to use a drawer slide back bracket mount.
I would say they are useless without cabinet sidewalls.
Agreed 100%. Based on first hand experience.
loved hearing your thoughts
I bought clamps at Harbor freight for $6.95 each and they are far better than these expensive Kreg clamps. The drawer slide jig doesn't work at all unless your drawers are made of balsa wood. They sag when you put weight on them no matter how tightly they are clamped.
Nice video Art! Thank you for sharing it with us!💖👍👌😎JP
ON a side note, it seems it would be safer for your hands, for your material and for the teeth of your table saw if you lowered the blade below the table surface while working on or around the saw table.
Спасибо, что так подробно все показали)
С удовольствием. С Рождеством!
(this is from Google Translate, I wonder how good a job it does...)
@@Wordsnwood It works great) Thank you so much) Merry Christmas!
Love the lack of ads and sponsorships on your channel.
The new style of clamp is called Automaxx - and the reviews on Amazon are very bad. I'll stick with my Harbor Freight knockoffs, they work great for putting in lots of pocket holes in material that is the same width.
Hmmm, 434 ratings on Amazon.com and 4.5 stars out of five. 337 ratings on Amazon.ca and also 4.5 stars. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I guess I'll just have to give it a year and see if my opinion changes.
I will second the dislike for the Automaxx, I have one and it is very difficult to adjust the small wheel that adjust the clamping pressure. The Wheel needs to be bigger and at the end like the conventional vise grips. I also have found the clamping pressure is not the same on various thickness of stock. Armor company makes a similar product that works much better
I'm getting one..
because I have the Rockler's and I dont like it...
What is it about the Rockler's don't you like, I watched some videos on both and I seem to like the Rockler's better but they don't seem to provide a solution for supporting the drawer when attaching the slide to the drawer like the Kreg's. Not sure which ones to get now.
@@jac_builtWoodworks yes, that's it.. You cant install the slider to the drawer, and you have to be creative. Plus, the spacer rod is not that accurate and does not fit in some places.
A jig should make a process repeatable and easier to do, these do not do that very well. I have a set that I bought and I find using spacers and plywood gives me much more reliable results. I love Kreg's products, just not these. The clamps are great - they are not included, so buy them and skip the supports.
They definitely are almost useless for installing euro slides on a face frame cabinet.
"for a few bucks" ... Kreg is like the apple of the tool world. You can't use those jigs with standard clamps, you have to buy the kreg "face clamps" too. Sucks
If you have a face frame they work better.
Kreg products are crap. Cheaply made and overly complicated. This thing can be replaced with a2x4 with a straight edge or even a small piece of plywood. Amazing the crap people will buy!
You can build them yourself.
Always enjoy your videos, but you seemed rushed and almost out of breath for this one. Slow down and relax. Stay safe.
Wise words, thanks.
Lmao After watching you use those Kreg draw slide installers I doubt Kreg with let you do a sponsored video. Relax take a deep breath.
I did say right at the beginning that I wanted to do a "quick" video... ;-)