Gonna be honest, I feel the same. Her post just seems off to me. Her accusation of Geoff was nothing more than a small mention with "Proof of friendship" (whatever that's supposed to imply) and a couple photos of Geoff in a hotel room. One where he's on his phone and one where he's just stood there. What throws me off about the two hotel photos is that they were supposedly provided by another 'victim' but no other anonymous accusations have been made, to my knowledge anyway. Plus with how open Geoff is with the community, it just doesn't fit. If it turns out that her claims are true I'll be heartcrushed but I currently believe he's innocent simply because nothing has been shown to prove his 'guilt' in my eyes.
@@matts1603 She already retracted that she said that he knew about Ryan, which makes her a liar. Just her, by the way and she proved that she initially lied. That casts doubt for me.
@Well Rounded it doesn't matter if you know him personally buddy you don't have to know someone personally for something to seem off about an accusation
I think pulling Geoff into this BS isn't right. He's a pretty honest person and taking everything pretty hard since even he couldn't expect this...Geoff I don't see being on the same plate with everything.
I agree. Like I said in the video, I won't deny having a personal bias and loving Geoff to death to the point where I just cannot see him doing anything like that. I don't know why the most recent woman pulled Geoff into it, because I agree with you, I don't believe Geoff had any knowledge of it.
We'll likely never know maybe a breakup? But Geoff has always been my favorite since RvB and considering he comes off as the loving father to both Millie and AH. I don't see this accusation get dragged out since he has a long standing reputation and its likely exs from other Rooster Teeth employees might start coming out soon.
Geoff did the dating correctly. He didn't use his position to groom, and get women and younger ladies to do what they wanted, and Geoff didn't lie to his family.
Let's be honest. If Jeremy, Gavin, Michael, Jack, and Matt end up leaving im officially done and will not be watching anymore. This whole situation is heartbreaking and sad.
As much as I like them all. Jack has been a bit much with the politics and trash talking anyone disagrees with him on Twitter. I got really tired of it
@@metastabillity8991 easy fix for that is dont follow jack on Twitter, and dont watch vids that feature him heavily, I occasionally dont want to watch vids with certain people and they put enough stuff out to find content with groups you like
I 100% believe that Geoff is innocent. He is an extremely honest, kind, and humble person. It’s not surprising that he wasn’t aware of how dating in the modern era works. Dude was married for 22 years. Those dating apps were not a thing when he was young.
Honestly, for all those accused should face trial. Even Vic, Ryan, Geoff, Adam. This cancel culture shit is going to end all of us. They should go to court and the criminal justice system should DO it’s job instead of the public.
Of course Geoff is innocent, there isn't anything in the womans statement that is negative for Geoff. It is about two consenting adults talking to each other. It is absolutely pathetic that we live in a society where a man in his 40s has to release a public statement defending his dating life. RT isn't above blame for this kind of culture though, they have stoked the flames of the "woke movement" and it is biting them in the ass. I feel bad for Geoff, him and Burnie are two of the most important role models in my life.
@vinek12 those two have 0 in common dude. Polyamory is a consensual relationship between more than two people. No one should hold anymore power over another. Grooming is manipulative and all about power dynamics.
@@MathewBall Ryan does deserve it since he was using his power as a online content creator to take advantage of his fans so he can sleep with them. This has more to do than just cheating on his wife.
@@MathewBall Dude, Ryan physically hurt these women. He tore them by forcing it in, women had trouble walking and sitting, he choked them without even talking about it and was extremely rough. Not to mention some were virgins, no experience and Ryan having all the power. He didn't just cheat on his wife, he hurt those women and opened the door by sleeping with women, while lying about it, by not wearing a condom, exposing them to the chance of STDs. Stop playing what he did down. Ryan is a monster.
@@jamesfranxx6151 if you are talking about Geoff, he was in an open relationship to try to save his marriage. basically, he is being vilified for going on a dating app.
James, it sounds to me like Geoff did nothing wrong. Why would you attack him like that? He had agreed consential sex (from all parties involved) outside of his wedding. What gives you the right to judge so harshly on thay?
There's another that handles it professionally, too (clearly noted that the woman who accused Geoff changed her story twice), but I don't remember the channel.
@@flameace78 rt sold out and forgot their hardcore first wave fans. I am disappointed in Ryan, and i feel for geoff, but i was done with rt when i found out they were part of Warner brothers or who the fuck ever
Jeremy mentioned later in his stream today that his and Kat's families are very large and family members have had Covid scares, which is what pushed them to move out there until AH goes back to the offices. That being said, I really hope the distance from TX helps him. I know he has a lot of mental health issues that he's been very open about, so hopefully being back home with family will help him.
@@EmmureMARIO64 yeah. Hes said he has been having increasingly severe panic attacks, so much so that his anxiety was so bad, earlier this summer when him amd Kat tried to adopt a dog, they ended up having to give it up because he couldn't take care of the puppy and himself. And because he's able to since AH is remote, he's moving back to New England to be closer to his family during the pandemic.
@@EmmureMARIO64 yes, he's planning on going back to TX when they return to the office. But as of right now that won't be until at LEAST early next year (possibly later).
I think if Geoff had done something truly wrong, he would of owned it immediately, especially since he has been sober, a polyamourus approach to try and keep a relationship alive is extremely heart breaking to try and do just to be with the person you love and its painful to see him have to go through this, Ryan didnt give a shit and didnt feel guilt, we know Geoff is someone who does feel guilt for truly bad things he has done, so I think should he of done something truly bad, like knowing about Ryan or being caught out in manipulating girls like Ryan did in monstrous ways, he would be honest and completely step away
If he's the Geoff we all know and love I fully agree. He's been so honest and genuine in the past and has tried to overcome so much in his life that I truly don't believe he's capable of this. I just hope someone else corroborates it so that it can be in the clear once and for all. And I hope that whatever happened with his family is improving, hopefully he doesn't leave.
Its extremely hard to open up a relationship but cheers to them for trying. I have a couple friends that have done it to save a high school relationship. I can't see Geoff as really being in the wrong.
i agree with this and that statement he put out that is honesty right their and he layed it all out and it kinda makes sense so unless their is damaging evidence geoff is innocent in this but i feel for milly though cause god knows theirs going to be assholes hounding the poor girl
I mean Ryan's a cold blooded killer why would he have felt guilty. Geoff's a good guy even when he's drunk but he has seemed so much better since being sober.
@@goodolecowboy13 oh, its nigh impossible, a large number of my friends are going through this exact situation, I know what those feelings were when it happened with just a girlfriend so fuck knows what poor Geoff was going through with his beloved wife
Geoff is definitely more of a man to actually own up to his mistakes, he’s a grown man and has been through a lot but 100% hand on Bible he is innocent
The girl who wrote it said he knew about Ryan, then changed her mind and said he didnt....shes changed her story twice to fit in with Geoffs statement. Hes kept quiet because hes dealing with a lot, he hired Ryan and created AH with Jack and has had to watch one person mess it all up
I don't think Geoff was aware of Haywood´s encounters with fans. He was too drunk, busy with Gavin and or later dealing with the sobering up-divorce. Ryan was enough smart to fool literally all RT, just check the RT AA about Ryan´s "airplane delay" that I quote was "weird" coming from him but turns out was having extra time with a fan.
Yeah Geoff has been in deep with the business side of things to really know what’s actually going on. It sounds like he’s just being told of the stuff every week while he works in a office.
I remember being in the audience for RTX Off Topic when he showed up super super late. I remember everyone being very confused followed by him telling a whole story about why. It did feel very out of character - I want to say this was 2017
A sick person photoshopped Geoff's daughter in explicit pics, legit horrifying. I haven't seen them and i wont so dont ask me where or how to get them.
@@renegadepyro726 I hate those kinds of people who waited until a firestorm and try to pour more fuel to the fire by spreading false claims just to look like the victim when they are the ones who are seeking attention. My heart goes out to Geoff and Trevor because they did nothing wrong. And the trolls need to seriously stop because they are just trying to get famous and get all of Rooster Teeth shut down. You know what happens to whores, they get shamed. I hope the accusers feel shame for what they started.
I think we're reaching that point with the controversy where there are few victims left who are comfortable sharing their experience and so people are resorting to fakes. With drama being so popular to watch, I think we'll see an influx of false stories that are attempting to prolong the controversy or spin the controversy onto someone else (such as Geoff and Trevor).
After hearing Geoff's story I feel like this is the complete opposite. Geoff is a mentally and emotionally scared person. The man has been struggling with addiction and heartbreak throughouthis life. Seeing how my father has dealt with just the addiction side of things, it is a terrible thing to deal with. Honestly Griffon and Geoff seem to be the only people that truly know what has happened. They really seem to have kept it very transparent with eachother so these accusations seem more baseless.
I think Jeremy for awhile now has talked about missing his family and wishing he was closer. I don't think this is him trying to leave (but if it ends up being that I'll be very sad)
He has also been making a lot of online connections outside Rooster Teeth lately. Chilled Chaos, Gassy Mexican, ect. It's like he's setting up a backup plan.
This all seems like people trying to drag the ship down. Ryan and Kovic we're all learning were horrible people, and deserved to be let go and never spoken of again, Jack and Michael's stream to go over things was short, direct, and to the point, and they said what they needed to say. Jeremy going back to New England to be closer to his family is a non-story, wanting to be closer to your family during all of this is his business and no one else's. Regarding Trevor, I am sure there are men and women everywhere (myself being one of them) who have dealt with being gaslighted in that kind of relationship before, and I do believe him that there was no abuse from him, if anything he was the victim of emotional abuse if even half of the stuff in that statement is true. And regarding Geoff, I will just say this: I believe him. We as the community have watched Geoff tumble down into the pit of depression and alcoholism, and then after taking his sabbatical, climb back up the hill and better himself, I can't tell you how many comments I saw in the months after he returned to his sabbatical of people saying how much healthier and happier he looked, and I agreed. He spoke on Off Topic about the moment that made him realize he had to clean up his life, for those who don't know it involved projectile vomiting in his kitchen, 45 minutes before he was supposed to be picking up his daughter, he has picked himself up and dusted himself off. I think it is also worth mentioning that as the information about Ryan slowly came out, Jack even mentioned in the talk with Michael that Geoff was hit particularly hard by this, and I honestly think the reason is because of his daughter. Geoff is like the ultimate dad, and is incredibly protective of Millie, he even said she was one of the main reasons he decided to quit drinking, so he could be there to keep being her dad. He has never played The Last of Us because he heard about the opening scenes and knew he wouldn't be able to handle it, he could only make it through the first few seconds of the trailer for the first Dead Island game (there is video of that on Rooster Teeth's YT channel) for similar reasons. Now think, he suddenly hears that a man who is essentially a pedophile, a man who he probably helped to hire, has been in the room with his daughter for who knows how many times? If I were Geoff, I'd be freaking out too. Last things last, yes he has come out and admitted that he sexted with someone who was a fan of RT. To this I say...so? Until I see evidence that he was grooming or manipulating people in the same way that Ryan was, this is irrelevant, they were both consenting adults, and being a member of an international media group that has become incredibly popular over the years, it's not that difficult to fathom that when you start dating people online, someone will recognize you.
The fact he owned up to sexting makes me believe him more. I mean he is honest. This man has been through hell and back and watching and hearing his journey has honestly been an inspiration for me to try to get myself out of the hole I’ve dug for me. I’ll never go through what he did, but if he can get better, so can I. All I see is Geoff wanting to be a good dad to Millie and I respect that. I am so upset because I trusted Ryan. I’m usually able to pick out people who are like that by a gut feeling, and I can avoid them, but Ryan, I thought he was really cool, and when I was 15 I looked up to him which is scary. Until solid proof comes out, I will refuse to believe Geoff is a bad person. When I say solid, I mean cold hard undeniable evidence. This man has been through so much shit. Allegations like this can ruin lives, as seen by how Spoctor was thought to be a pedo when he was a minor, the guy almost just gave up on everything even though everything put against him was false.
How is Ryan and Adam terrible people? I keep saying that talking point but it's never been explained. He lost his job because he had consensual sex with adults. How that sex happens, whatever fetish shit he's into, is frankly nobody's business. The fact that any celebrity can have sex with anyone and have all their kinks be outed and get cancelled for it is what people should be upset about here. A corporation destroying a man's life because of his sexual preferences is what is truly perverted here.
John Smith point being, for Ryan, a lot of what he did to said fans was against their will. Yes, you can consent to sex, but at the same time not consent to actions done during it. I haven’t kept up on it, but that’s what I’ve gathered so far at least?
I trust geoff. With his sebadical and everything during the timenwhere he was going through clearly marriage trouble. Im likely to believe him. Especially with griffin being a known lesbian before geoff marriage. Trever i think is just tsking the safe side with warner brothers with the latest outting of ryan and adam
Because they're firing their employees who are victims of their private sexual life being exposed. Scary that if you ever had clumsy sex with someone they could just send your text messages to your employer and have every media out there post it with nothing but unsubstantiated claims and nameless victims.
I have a heavy bias as I love all 3 of these people Geoff: I personally trust every word he says. After watching the off topic podcast where he came forward about the hate in the community, and in RT, and brought to light the problems that Fiona, Mica, and many others faced. He is a trustworthy man, and he's worked to help every person he's hired, and no one knew the hidden truth. Jeremy: Jeremy has said in the past(I believe early quarantine) that he was planning on returning to home. This isn't new, and he's struggling through so much even before this whole situation. He's obviously an alcoholic, and I've heard that he's struggling with his mental health, but he means the best. He needs to have a nice vacation back home, and reset. Especially since he was very close to Ryan being one of the Battle Buddies. Trevor: Trevor has always been open to the community, and has always been a bright face. It's very hard to believe that he would do anything, especially physical abuse. He also wrote about how he's been dealing with these issues out of the view of the community for years now, and I'm hoping that one of the groups that he's worked with on these problems will step forward and defend him. I'm sorry this is long, but like many community members I'm very worried. If this is like dominoes, one of these 3 could fall next. And then what happens after they fall? Do Michael and Gavin get accused of something? Or does RT and AH just disband? RT and AH have been there for us when we needed them most, and I hope I'm not alone in wanting to repay that favor. Love for anyone who needs it:💚🖤💚 ❤🖤❤ Edit: If anyone doesn't believe Trevor they need to read his story. It has FACTS to prove he's a good man. It's honestly horrible the stuff they all have to deal with.
@@colecooper5836 but there's still real accusations that come out among other real accusations. Timing is not enough, it's often the reason people feel confident to speak out.
I don’t know about the Geoff situation. If he did do something like this I feel like in his statement he truly seemed like he had no ill intent. Geoff seems too genuine to ever do any of this.
What I learned from Geoff’s statement: he is incredibly smart. (By that I mean he has a clear understanding of writing and he’s a natural leader and he easily could have any job he wanted to have) he could do anything but he chose to make rooster teeth. He never had to do this but he chose to build a community for all of us RT fans. I have a new level of appreciation and admiration for Geoff. His openness about his battle with alcoholism helped me through many dark times and he’s an amazing human being. I just hope people can let him heal and he can come back to RT when he’s ready. Edited for clarification
Jeremy is the heart and soul of AH, he is a man who has a lot of demons in his mind that he has been open about since the lockdown began and I think he just needs to be with family, if he does a Ray and completely step away, I know I'll follow him, but I'm with y'all, I think he just needs his loved ones right now
I don’t think he is leaving RT/AH he is just moving back to Boston so Cat (Kat? Idk) and him can be closer to their families during all this Lockdown stuff. Especially cause RT said they were going to be from home till the end of the year.
@@carsnob I disagree, his streams are hilarious and he as a personality could easily grow and become his own brand just like Ray, but I really hope it doesn't come to that, The Hap Tap lord himself is my big reason for still watching AH content
@@Tribleman247 I actually almost think Jeremy could be bigger than Ray on his own as he seems to exert a lot of energy into solo playthroughs and has shown to be very charismatic with other people which is why people are so quick to like him. Ray, if I’m being honest, seemed burnt out the last time I saw him, which to be fair was almost a year ago.
Please remember for Jeremy he's someone who has panic attacks and LOVES his family (everyone from close Kat, to close family, to his cats). I can TOTALLY see him taking a few months break in New England to be with his family, especially with the whole Ryan incident continuing to come out. I wish him the best, and I hope he re-centers himself while around those he loves.
If I understood the video correctly I don’t even think it’s a break. Sounds like he will continue to work remotely and just decided to do it closer to family than isolated in Texas
@@Jiggysbigdaddy, Yep, he explained since they’re all working from home any way that it’d work if he was back in Boston. He’s coming back when this all ends.
16+ years of listening to this man and watching his troubles, can tell he meant every word of that statement. Geoff doesn't deserve being dragged into this shit storm.
@@duncangreen8871 Let's Play makes like 3 times the amount of money in ad revenue compared to Rooster Teeth. The only hard part would be to get sponsor that WB provides currently.
Apart from Adam Kovic, all the recent controversies came from inside AH; Ryan and Geoff were Achievement Hunters (Geoff and Jack founded the channel), and Trevor is the current head of AH. Splitting from RT wouldn't solve anything, and it definitely wouldn't have prevented this shit-storm from happening.
Finally a summary and update from someone that actually -knows- achievement hunter. The ones bashing the company nonstop and taking every little accusation as utter fact have never even watched the channel. They haven't grown up with these people. They are just vultures.
It's terrible, funhaus and AH have gotten me through some rough times, but it will be better, sorry for all the girls that got taken advantage of, my thoughts and prayers go out to y'all, thank you for speaking out, love y'all.
Dude, I have to say that this is by far the most measured and reasonable reporting on the shenanigans going on at RT right now. Especially when contrasted with the hate boners at Clownfish TV. Well done and keep up the good work.
I don't think calling it shenanigans is fair. That's their term for goofy messing around with each other. What's been (secretly) happening was sick and twisted, and the new copycat allegations are disgusting
I can’t believe that any of this stuff is true about Geoff or Trevor! Sure, everyone does shitty stuff throughout their life and makes big mistakes that haunt people throughout the rest of their life! In the time of this Ryan situation, I believe people are rising up against the rest of AH and trying to pin allegations against other members! I’d hate to believe that something like this could ruin a community that I’ve watched for such a long time and changed my life in a time of grief! I’m not denying that these types of things don’t happen, but I think a lot of this is distorted a false!
Why would they turn on Geoff. Geoff has gone through enough. He’s not the same person from the 2000’s. He’s good. I’m proud of Geoff, he has come so far. He’s a single parent, trying to get life back on track and he has stopped drinking. Stop attacking Geoff. He’s the heart of the group. He did not know anything about Ryan’s actions, so stop. I didn’t know what happened to Geoff until now. I feel bad for him. He has a daughter, why would he throw his life away. Geoff is one of the reasons why I started watching Achievement Hunter. From the let’s build, his scenarios to Gavin, playing scary games, rage on mini golf, his signature “oops”, chicken farm, and just being a great guy. This is my opinion, I think Jeremy will be back I hope. He knows that the community loves him. And since they aren’t returning until the end of the year, he has time to be with his family. Were in the middle of a pamdemic, I would too be close to my family.
vinek12 then link the video??? Or give us a title? Also people can change. I don’t know how recent it is, but I know of a streamer who was cheating on his GF and flirting with 17 Y/O and he’s now going to therapy and working really hard to change himself, he has disable his DMs, closed his discord server, and much more. Geoff used to be an alcoholic. He changed. Even if he was a creep before, he realised his wrong doing and changed. What’s different with Ryan is he is actively doing this and has yet to realise his wrong doings. Also Geoff was trying to fix his marriage through polyamory. There isn’t anything wrong with that in my mind if both parties were okay with that.
vinek12 he didn’t though? This crushed him man. People can change. I’ve changed. I can’t help what you think, but until there is more proof I will say Geoff is innocent. He’s been fighting and going through hell, and fuck, he’s an inspiration to me. If he can bounce back from his lowest, so can I.
@Imperial Judesmen138 ah so you don't know what being woke is lol, yeah that's just the narrative people who denie climate change, and are anti vaxxer and all that stuff, try to push on people who disagree with them Being woke just means you are aware of things going on in the world, both good and bad, not about putting people down or any of that garbage
Bruh...i just read through the shit that was sent to trevor and that man needs all the hugs. And geoff just needs love in his life right now more than ever.
I just feel so sorry for Geoff, how could he have known of the shit that would just even slightly make him look guilty. He seems genuine in what he's said and I hope he's feeling better soon.
Geoff shouldn't be dragged into this he was always forthright he went through so much to be pulled to this Ryan's BS 😢 he deserves his privacy that all he ask
Some people just wanna lie at this point when the fire has been lit for publicity and I hate it... doing false accusations should be a crime at this point.
I swear to god dude people who are going after Geoff with allegations are pathetic the mans broken and has been for a awhile and now this situation with Ryan has brought more grief now people are going after him for what seems to be that they want attention and that’s a sick joke to do to this broken man that’s healing. God bless Geoff Ramsey and hope he gets well he will always be in my heart.
I relate to Geoff as far as alcohol addiction and sometimes want to relapse. I hope he's innocent, Glad he somewhat returned and want to wish him the best.
Geoff and Jack is what got me into watching Achievement Hunter and helping me get some difficult Achievements in Videogames with their achievement guide Videos
This is just plain dumb. The allegations against Geoff (aside from him knowing Ryan's doings, but the one who made the allegations retracted that statement) aren't even noteworthy or contentious. If it is false, it is not incriminating. If it is true, it is STILL not incriminating. Its literally a non-issue, why tf is this even a controversy...
Jeremy said in last night's stream the plan is to move back when the office opens again, also seems from a throw away comment from Kat that they both had grandparents in ill health over the last year so being closer is better whilst not physically needed in Austin.
Geoff's statement and his private past checks out honestly. I feel like people are now firing on all cylinders bc people are like that. I dont think Geoff did anything wrong
IF it helps Griffin said several times on different podcasts towards the end of their marriage that she didn't believe that monogamy was a realistic state for people.
Honestly, I have family up in Massachusetts too and much prefer living there compared to living where I am now, Florida. I had friends here and got a great paying job but after shit hit the fan in March I now have neither of those after my friends decided they no longer needed me and my job couldn’t afford to keep me on. I still live with my parents and brother but none want to move back. I felt so much calmer and happier up there and feel absolutely miserable down here so I absolutely understand why Jeremy and Kay are moving. Why stay in a place that caused you so much pain.
I dont see Jeremy as someone to leave quietly and subtly. He talks all the time how he loves making content. His books, music, twitch, and of course rt. And he always says rt is his biggest of all passions. So if anything I would expect him to try and work even harder to repair ah and rt after the whole situation and after he takes a break and spends some much needed time with family.
2020 had just been a fucked up year. Horrible are popping up and the true good people like Jack, Geoff, Jeremy, Trevor, Alfredo, Michael, Lindsey, Fiona are being thrown under a bus because of stupid people
I believe Geoff as much as I've believed him so far. His story lines up, and the way he was thrown under the bus was messed up, and I felt that way before he put his statement out. In fact I had even wondered if he and Griffin had tried out something like polyamory considering their personalities. It sucks that he felt he had to come out and say something. I hope he heals up from whatever is going on. I believe Trevor too. And I'm feeling bad for everyone affected by this: Ryan's family, friends, coworkers, and victims. I have never been so upset by a celebrity scandal like this before. And I know better than to think that TH-camrs put all their life out on social media. And it still hurts.
Ryan was the reason I started watching Achievement Hunter and then Rooster Teeth. I loved his dark humor and my friends who also watched AH would joke about how I acted like the Battle Buddies (Jeremy + Ryan team name.) It hurts every single time I see something come out about what he's done but I watch it every time because I need to know. I honestly hope he finds the help he needs.
I’ve missed Geoff so much these past months. I’m so glad he has cleared things up on the Reddit and my heart goes out to him. I hope he’s okay and things get better. I would love to have him on an Off Topic or RT Podcast at some point but I hope that is only when he’s ready. Edit: I would also love to see him play some golf again. Love the classic golf Geoff
@@NurBurG_N3RD and I quote “I would love to have him on off topic or RT Podcast at some point, but I hope that is only when he’s ready” I assumed any normal person would think the same about my golf statement
Trevor statement brought me to tears about his past relationship. I'm so sorry you had to go thru that man. BTW putting Jeremy Leave Austin makes everyone flip out when really he is just moving back to be closer to family. RT announced they would be working from home for the rest of the year so it make sense he wants to near his family. Respect that decision Lil J.
It hurts to hear but I still love Geoff... he’s filled my childhood with good memories and laughs. I know he needs time to recooperate but I hope there could still be some more good times eventually. It’s very heartbreaking to see my childhood crumble. :(
a very fair and measured commentary, thank you - you're the type of voice we need in the me too era, treating allegations with the seriousness they deserve, but not immediately damning anyone without evidence.
Look. I believe that Geoff would have 100% owned up to his bullshit, as he had for Rooster Teeth, as he had for Achievement Hunter, and as he had for himself all in his past. He was casted in the army, he knows the terms "respect" and "disrespect" hold heavy weight. I 100% think he is completely out of the wrong and I know wholeheartedly that he did not do anything like this. We can expect all we want out of anyone, even if we know them entirely or seem to know them entirely, but what Ryan did shocked us all. It really did. We grew with him, we loved him we laughed with him; accepted him. And to say these things about two of the many fucking backbones of Rooster Teeth and Achievement Hunter, wether it be true or not, is profound and unusual that it had to take one person speaking out for a plethora more to be outcast, but I can digress all I'd like. I do sincerely hope that Jeremy finds his peace with his wife and develops his own character, just as Ray. I'd be wrong if I said Geoff did anything, and although his statement hasn't been released, I don't want to believe any of these stories, because God Damn do they tug at my heart strings.
Do people not remember WWII when we fought actual monsters? What does any of this have to do with their day jobs? I love hearing people say “it wasn’t illegal, but…” You don’t make the damn laws, and you aren’t the judge, jury and executioner. Let the courts deal with this.
if geoff and trevor consensually knocked boots with another adult, so what? it doesnt matter. it doesnt matter how they met, if they are fans, if any one of them were cheating. its their personal life and outside of breaking a law they can do pretty much whatever they want - just like everyone else. Ryan did not break any laws that anyone has spoken of, almost legal is legal so that shit dont matter. i dont know or care if ryan was fired or quit but if he was fired then RT is perfectly fine in doing so as the whole thing effects their business, if you fuck with your employers business then thats a good reason to fire you. that just sensible business practice. This is a problem with placing "famous" people on some sort of pedestal when you realy dont know a damn thing about them. You know what they have told you., what they have let you see and then when that pedestal crumbles your world collapses. What Ryan did was kinda sleezy but not one of those women were innocent - they ALL KNEW HE WAS MARRIED so guess they are kinda sleezy too . Sleezy is not being a monster.
this whole Geoff situation is why some people still don't take victims seriously, it's pretty obviously a vindictive ex trying to get a mob to form around him. So much of his life, insecurities and struggles have been broadcast to the world. I can see why you would so desperately cling to the few private parts of your life you still have left, this must have felt like such a knife in the back from the community and trust me it's not the people who hate Geoff that will push him out of RT and AH it'll be the fans who can't respect his space and struggles.
It’s like Geoff himself said, “Y’all motherfuckers wanna watch Rome burn.” The hatedom surrounding Rooster Teeth is honestly sickening, you have full on channels dedicated to trashing, harassing and spreading hate on them. All under the guise of ‘Well they deserve to for x! You’re just a fanatic fan!” Like no duh you shouldn’t worship a company, but Christ the sheer zeal and pleasure people come from seeing bad stuff happen is disgusting. All because ‘this show was bad’ or ‘they’re too woke/left leaning” or “this person isnt funny, so I hate them”. Like you can be a critic of them without hating them. I got issues with RWBY. Still like it but it’s flawed no doubt. You have poles like that hero guy who literally make it their mission to shit on it nonstop. Like wtf it’s a show, it’s not even passion for it to be better at that point. Honestly I hope Geoff is okay eventually, and they bounce back from these past few days.
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The Geoff accusation appears to be someone trying to bandwagon, something that I expected to happen. This is why proof is so important, especially when making these kind of accusations as they have long reaching ramifications. This is why after the initial accusations came out I scrutinize the newer claims closely, looking for proofs to add on to prove the validity of the accusation. While both Adam and Ryan have been proven to be scummy towards their (probably soon-to-be-former) significant other, there will be those that bandwagon for clout and internet fame rather than exposing something that happened to them or something they participated in. And while you can argue that we should believe everyone in this kinds of scenarios, I want the truth. Not the interpretation of "your truth" but THE truth. The truth in this instance is that Ryan and Adam are scummy, the only remaining factor is how deep does the rabbit hole go? As for the fall of Rooster Teeth in general, I'd say it started with them selling the company out to Warner Media. This is the main reason people like Trevor and Geoff have had to make statements, because Warner is cleaning house and you can guarantee that anyone smelling sus will be shown the front door. There has been speculation on the leaving of Burnie and Gus, that being them seeing the writing on the walls and turn and burning before they were on the chopping block for whatever reason (some speculation is that they knew to some extent or something). If you want more of the business-y side of things, I'd check out some of the videos done by Clownfish TV (whether you like them or not) as they too have been keeping a close eye on this from an industry perspective as that's what their channel focuses on (industry news).
I don't think Geoff did anything wrong or even near the caliber of Ryan. I think Geoff looked in the community, realized and recognized the power imbalance and cut it off because he didn't want to do the type of shit Ryan was. Also the fact that Geoff and Griffon both were open about everything with each other and people they were seeing puts them in a completely different category than Ryan.
I think it's horrible Trevor and Geoff have had to release such personal information online. The OP with Geoff has edited her statement twice to fit in line with Geoffs statement, I didnt believe her from ths start.....why keep Ryan's evidence but not Geoffs Theres no way Geoff would have kept things quiet about Ryan, he has a daughter a few years younger than Ryan's victims
Geoff has already made a statement. He completely opened up about his mental health and the end of his previous marriage. Everything was consensual and he even admitted it wasn't for him. Nothing on what RH did and shouldn't be associated as such.
At the end of the day these are online personalities who are under the microscope right now by Warner Media and it appears to me Geoff and Trevor have to issue these statements because if speculations go crazy the Warner execs will pull the plug just to be safe. I honestly do not see Rooster Teeth lasting more than a year and their best case scenario is being sold to a rich indie dude and they can go back to basics again. That is, however, a pipe dream.
Having the internet has almost removed people's responsibility to learn social etiquette. How is this not part of the school curriculum? My daughter has had an Ethics class for 4 years now.
I don't get why any of this is framed as 'Ryan behind Achievement hunters back' How many people you work with come to you and ask permission to cheat on the mother of their children?
Apparently if you're into some kinky shit and a woman decides to post about it on reddit, you get cancelled and your 10+ year long friends will all turn on your immediately. Great move, RT.
They weren't just co-workers, they were friends and if my friends abused and raped the women with whom they were cheating on their spouse with, I'd also feel betrayed by all that going on behind my back and cut off all ties with them
@@ICHMUSSMALPIPI Can you find me even allegations of rape and abuse? Unless we're counting his desperate pleading to take down evidence of their relationships which I agree, implying he'll kill himself is a cowardly move.
This was bound to happen. Someone with either a chip on their shoulder or misconstruing events to suit a narrative. Anyone should feel like they can tell their story and be heard, but it's equally important to take things with a grain of salt and remember that there are three sides to every story; your side, my side and the truth.
This doesn't feel like a man trying to hide something. If there is one thing we know about Geoff, its that he's honest and doesn't really hide anything (like he said, we all know so much about his personal life). If this is true it would destroy the very foundation of RT and I can't see any feasible way that happens. We know too much for too long for me to believe these allegation.
so I know im late here, but I'm reading the texts between Trevor and Emily and... I'm just speechless. I'll be honest when I first heard the story a while ago (maybe December) I believed Emily, but now I just feel so terrible that Trevor had to go though that. If you haven't read the texts, they are awful, and I'm shocked that Trevor didn't say something earlier. Poor guy.
@@OneWackMedivac Okay so Trevor's ex-girlfriend Emily tried to accuse Trevor of being abusive in their past relationship, however Trevor wrote a very long detailed statement basically a letter to the fans and to Emily that he did nothing wrong and even has screenshots and other evidence as proof that Emily was the abusive one even taking shots at Barbara and calling her a slut and a whore, and she became a bit of a stalker which scared him and Barbs. So he's in the all clear, since this allegation has been going on for a while i think back when he was first hired.
Man, I really enjoyed your video and analysis but jeez the among us gameplay was a lil insensitive. All the black jokes that slip by in the chat constantly was so discomforting. You
On the Geoff thing, a psychological note. The personal tragedy, whatever it was, could have been something relatively minor (as tragedies go), but compounded with other stresses, can be magnified into something incredibly traumatic in someone's mind, especially if actions are taken which they later regret. Point is, whatever happened, no matter what it is, has left a deep wound in him. This is only compounded by Ryan's actions. That brings me to Jack; just keep being Geoff's friend dude. He needs you right now. Now, as for Ryan...and please hear me out for my reasoning. I largely disregard the accounts which are purely anecdotal due to ease of fabrication. It takes no effort to write a story. However, there is enough evidence in verified cases that renders the anecdotal cases irrelevant. It doesn't matter if we have those or not. We have plenty of chat logs, screen shots, photos and video to show that there is something deeply wrong with Ryan Haywood and that he has taken advantage of multiple young women.
I don’t believe a word of that against Geoff, just seems like some opportunist wanting their 15 minutes of fame. Really sick
Gonna be honest, I feel the same. Her post just seems off to me. Her accusation of Geoff was nothing more than a small mention with "Proof of friendship" (whatever that's supposed to imply) and a couple photos of Geoff in a hotel room. One where he's on his phone and one where he's just stood there. What throws me off about the two hotel photos is that they were supposedly provided by another 'victim' but no other anonymous accusations have been made, to my knowledge anyway. Plus with how open Geoff is with the community, it just doesn't fit. If it turns out that her claims are true I'll be heartcrushed but I currently believe he's innocent simply because nothing has been shown to prove his 'guilt' in my eyes.
What's worse is it's people like that then make it harder on actual victims
@@matts1603 She already retracted that she said that he knew about Ryan, which makes her a liar. Just her, by the way and she proved that she initially lied. That casts doubt for me.
@@matts1603 also isn't there a fact that he and Griffin tried an open marriage before getting a divorce?
@Well Rounded it doesn't matter if you know him personally buddy you don't have to know someone personally for something to seem off about an accusation
I think pulling Geoff into this BS isn't right. He's a pretty honest person and taking everything pretty hard since even he couldn't expect this...Geoff I don't see being on the same plate with everything.
I agree. Like I said in the video, I won't deny having a personal bias and loving Geoff to death to the point where I just cannot see him doing anything like that.
I don't know why the most recent woman pulled Geoff into it, because I agree with you, I don't believe Geoff had any knowledge of it.
We'll likely never know maybe a breakup? But Geoff has always been my favorite since RvB and considering he comes off as the loving father to both Millie and AH.
I don't see this accusation get dragged out since he has a long standing reputation and its likely exs from other Rooster Teeth employees might start coming out soon.
@@gravenwolf6535 yes he stated that he did sext someone
@@gravenwolf6535 yea him and Griffiron were in an open relationship
@Bill Anderson we'll just have to wait until we get more information.
Geoff did the dating correctly. He didn't use his position to groom, and get women and younger ladies to do what they wanted, and Geoff didn't lie to his family.
Geoff didn’t have an affair.
Geoff didn’t talk to underage people.
Geoff didn’t lie.
I don’t even know how anyone is talking about him right now
You mean like jack gavin an Bernie did?
@@triggaj4y what did they do?
he just covered up everyone's sex crimes.
This didn’t age well…
Let's be honest. If Jeremy, Gavin, Michael, Jack, and Matt end up leaving im officially done and will not be watching anymore. This whole situation is heartbreaking and sad.
Why would Gav and Micheal leave? Team nice dynamite is the best
As much as I like them all. Jack has been a bit much with the politics and trash talking anyone disagrees with him on Twitter. I got really tired of it
Play Pals will never end
@@metastabillity8991 easy fix for that is dont follow jack on Twitter, and dont watch vids that feature him heavily, I occasionally dont want to watch vids with certain people and they put enough stuff out to find content with groups you like
Honestly, I could see Gavin leaving. Slow Mo Guys is still very popular so he has a saftey parachute if shit completley hits the fan with AH.
I 100% believe that Geoff is innocent. He is an extremely honest, kind, and humble person. It’s not surprising that he wasn’t aware of how dating in the modern era works. Dude was married for 22 years. Those dating apps were not a thing when he was young.
Honestly, for all those accused should face trial. Even Vic, Ryan, Geoff, Adam.
This cancel culture shit is going to end all of us. They should go to court and the criminal justice system should DO it’s job instead of the public.
@@winster32 true
The was an update
@@seanglover9023 what was it
Of course Geoff is innocent, there isn't anything in the womans statement that is negative for Geoff. It is about two consenting adults talking to each other. It is absolutely pathetic that we live in a society where a man in his 40s has to release a public statement defending his dating life. RT isn't above blame for this kind of culture though, they have stoked the flames of the "woke movement" and it is biting them in the ass. I feel bad for Geoff, him and Burnie are two of the most important role models in my life.
I hope Geoff knows we all love and support him. He deserves all the time off he needs. Hopefully he will heal from whatever happen.
When jack said he was going through alot i didnt know it was that much. :(
I hope he heal it's takes Time for him to put the pieces together.
@vinek12 That's some mental gymnastics right there bud
@vinek12 It’s polyamory, and that doesn’t make you a sexual deviant
@vinek12 those two have 0 in common dude. Polyamory is a consensual relationship between more than two people. No one should hold anymore power over another. Grooming is manipulative and all about power dynamics.
Geoff doesn't deserve any of this. Same with Trevor.
The fact that Trevor was so patient with that girl amazes me. He didn’t deserve any of that.
I don't believe Ryan deserved any of this all for just cheating!
@@MathewBall Ryan does deserve it since he was using his power as a online content creator to take advantage of his fans so he can sleep with them. This has more to do than just cheating on his wife.
@@MathewBall It was more than just cheating...
@@MathewBall Dude, Ryan physically hurt these women. He tore them by forcing it in, women had trouble walking and sitting, he choked them without even talking about it and was extremely rough. Not to mention some were virgins, no experience and Ryan having all the power. He didn't just cheat on his wife, he hurt those women and opened the door by sleeping with women, while lying about it, by not wearing a condom, exposing them to the chance of STDs. Stop playing what he did down. Ryan is a monster.
Can’t believe people are trying to drag Geoff into this. He’s been through way too much and he doesn’t need this kind of BS in his life.
dude he has done the same as ryan
@@jamesfranxx6151 he actually didnt. And you clearly dont know the things ryan did if you are comparing geoff to him.
@@lvlHive he cheated and had a few extra girls
@@jamesfranxx6151 if you are talking about Geoff, he was in an open relationship to try to save his marriage. basically, he is being vilified for going on a dating app.
James, it sounds to me like Geoff did nothing wrong. Why would you attack him like that? He had agreed consential sex (from all parties involved) outside of his wedding. What gives you the right to judge so harshly on thay?
This video was extremely professional unlike other channels who just want to see RT burn
It's too easy cuz is alredy burning at some level.
People have come to hate Rooster Teeth so much that they've forgotten about the fans and the people that work there. Truly heartbreaking.
@@flameace78, As Geoff said... “Y’all motherfuckers just wanna watch Rome burn.” It’s sad really.
There's another that handles it professionally, too (clearly noted that the woman who accused Geoff changed her story twice), but I don't remember the channel.
@@flameace78 rt sold out and forgot their hardcore first wave fans. I am disappointed in Ryan, and i feel for geoff, but i was done with rt when i found out they were part of Warner brothers or who the fuck ever
Jeremy mentioned later in his stream today that his and Kat's families are very large and family members have had Covid scares, which is what pushed them to move out there until AH goes back to the offices.
That being said, I really hope the distance from TX helps him. I know he has a lot of mental health issues that he's been very open about, so hopefully being back home with family will help him.
Jeremy is going through a lot? He’s moving?
@@EmmureMARIO64 yeah. Hes said he has been having increasingly severe panic attacks, so much so that his anxiety was so bad, earlier this summer when him amd Kat tried to adopt a dog, they ended up having to give it up because he couldn't take care of the puppy and himself.
And because he's able to since AH is remote, he's moving back to New England to be closer to his family during the pandemic.
@@awesomeness0005 oh wow! So even if this whole pandemic ends, there’s a chance he’ll come back to AH or no?
@@EmmureMARIO64 yes, he's planning on going back to TX when they return to the office. But as of right now that won't be until at LEAST early next year (possibly later).
awesomeness0005 Thank you so much for letting us know!❤️
I think if Geoff had done something truly wrong, he would of owned it immediately, especially since he has been sober, a polyamourus approach to try and keep a relationship alive is extremely heart breaking to try and do just to be with the person you love and its painful to see him have to go through this, Ryan didnt give a shit and didnt feel guilt, we know Geoff is someone who does feel guilt for truly bad things he has done, so I think should he of done something truly bad, like knowing about Ryan or being caught out in manipulating girls like Ryan did in monstrous ways, he would be honest and completely step away
If he's the Geoff we all know and love I fully agree. He's been so honest and genuine in the past and has tried to overcome so much in his life that I truly don't believe he's capable of this.
I just hope someone else corroborates it so that it can be in the clear once and for all. And I hope that whatever happened with his family is improving, hopefully he doesn't leave.
Its extremely hard to open up a relationship but cheers to them for trying. I have a couple friends that have done it to save a high school relationship. I can't see Geoff as really being in the wrong.
i agree with this and that statement he put out that is honesty right their and he layed it all out and it kinda makes sense so unless their is damaging evidence geoff is innocent in this but i feel for milly though cause god knows theirs going to be assholes hounding the poor girl
I mean Ryan's a cold blooded killer why would he have felt guilty. Geoff's a good guy even when he's drunk but he has seemed so much better since being sober.
@@goodolecowboy13 oh, its nigh impossible, a large number of my friends are going through this exact situation, I know what those feelings were when it happened with just a girlfriend so fuck knows what poor Geoff was going through with his beloved wife
Geoff is definitely more of a man to actually own up to his mistakes, he’s a grown man and has been through a lot but 100% hand on Bible he is innocent
This whole thing just shows that too many people still inherently equate "taking a mental health break," with "running away."
^when Michael Jordan retired to play baseball
I hope that title doesn’t mean what I think it means
EDIT: So glad it wasn’t sexual assault allegations 😭
not a big difference
@@14twentyone52 definitely a difference
I think it's pretty obvious here that Geoff is innocent, no?
Is he tho? We all thought Ryan was innocent at first
@@KumaoftheForest yeah
@@KumaoftheForest he is innocent, he made a statement, it’s on the rt Reddit page
The girl who wrote it said he knew about Ryan, then changed her mind and said he didnt....shes changed her story twice to fit in with Geoffs statement.
Hes kept quiet because hes dealing with a lot, he hired Ryan and created AH with Jack and has had to watch one person mess it all up
@@Hapkidoman442 so did many guilty people
I don't think Geoff was aware of Haywood´s encounters with fans. He was too drunk, busy with Gavin and or later dealing with the sobering up-divorce. Ryan was enough smart to fool literally all RT, just check the RT AA about Ryan´s "airplane delay" that I quote was "weird" coming from him but turns out was having extra time with a fan.
Yeah Geoff has been in deep with the business side of things to really know what’s actually going on. It sounds like he’s just being told of the stuff every week while he works in a office.
I remember being in the audience for RTX Off Topic when he showed up super super late. I remember everyone being very confused followed by him telling a whole story about why. It did feel very out of character - I want to say this was 2017
@@__dane__ You mean Ryan or Geoff?
@@saavedra909 Ryan
@@lesterdesalvo7098 Well that fits with the declaration of several victims. Yeah, he was a true monster...
A sick person photoshopped Geoff's daughter in explicit pics, legit horrifying. I haven't seen them and i wont so dont ask me where or how to get them.
That’s horrible man. Geoff doesn’t deserve any of this. This company is drenched in geoffs sweat,blood and tears along with decades of his life.
You got a source for that claim? I’d never heard about that
Bro, if that's true, that's fucking file and sickening
that's so disgusting wtf-
@@misters1r900 Geoff mentions it in the off-topic #236
This is where things get outrageously out of control with rumors and trolls. The geoff and Trevor allegations are absurd.
That’s people wanting their 15 minutes of fame because they’re attention whores
@@renegadepyro726 I hate those kinds of people who waited until a firestorm and try to pour more fuel to the fire by spreading false claims just to look like the victim when they are the ones who are seeking attention. My heart goes out to Geoff and Trevor because they did nothing wrong. And the trolls need to seriously stop because they are just trying to get famous and get all of Rooster Teeth shut down. You know what happens to whores, they get shamed. I hope the accusers feel shame for what they started.
I think we're reaching that point with the controversy where there are few victims left who are comfortable sharing their experience and so people are resorting to fakes. With drama being so popular to watch, I think we'll see an influx of false stories that are attempting to prolong the controversy or spin the controversy onto someone else (such as Geoff and Trevor).
@@matts1603 Before you know it, they will go after all of AH which is sick and disturbing.
Yall said the same about Ryan
After hearing Geoff's story I feel like this is the complete opposite. Geoff is a mentally and emotionally scared person. The man has been struggling with addiction and heartbreak throughouthis life. Seeing how my father has dealt with just the addiction side of things, it is a terrible thing to deal with. Honestly Griffon and Geoff seem to be the only people that truly know what has happened. They really seem to have kept it very transparent with eachother so these accusations seem more baseless.
I think Jeremy for awhile now has talked about missing his family and wishing he was closer. I don't think this is him trying to leave (but if it ends up being that I'll be very sad)
He has also been making a lot of online connections outside Rooster Teeth lately. Chilled Chaos, Gassy Mexican, ect. It's like he's setting up a backup plan.
@@themothman3726 Jeremy and Matt have been in so many Chilled vids/streams lately that I have unoffically become part of Chilled's group.
@@themothman3726, he also said he’ll be back when this all ends. It’s just till the offices open againz
If that does happen, at least we still have Matt😁
@@themothman3726 I remember Gassy. Damn, I miss The Creatures
This all seems like people trying to drag the ship down. Ryan and Kovic we're all learning were horrible people, and deserved to be let go and never spoken of again, Jack and Michael's stream to go over things was short, direct, and to the point, and they said what they needed to say. Jeremy going back to New England to be closer to his family is a non-story, wanting to be closer to your family during all of this is his business and no one else's. Regarding Trevor, I am sure there are men and women everywhere (myself being one of them) who have dealt with being gaslighted in that kind of relationship before, and I do believe him that there was no abuse from him, if anything he was the victim of emotional abuse if even half of the stuff in that statement is true.
And regarding Geoff, I will just say this: I believe him. We as the community have watched Geoff tumble down into the pit of depression and alcoholism, and then after taking his sabbatical, climb back up the hill and better himself, I can't tell you how many comments I saw in the months after he returned to his sabbatical of people saying how much healthier and happier he looked, and I agreed. He spoke on Off Topic about the moment that made him realize he had to clean up his life, for those who don't know it involved projectile vomiting in his kitchen, 45 minutes before he was supposed to be picking up his daughter, he has picked himself up and dusted himself off. I think it is also worth mentioning that as the information about Ryan slowly came out, Jack even mentioned in the talk with Michael that Geoff was hit particularly hard by this, and I honestly think the reason is because of his daughter. Geoff is like the ultimate dad, and is incredibly protective of Millie, he even said she was one of the main reasons he decided to quit drinking, so he could be there to keep being her dad. He has never played The Last of Us because he heard about the opening scenes and knew he wouldn't be able to handle it, he could only make it through the first few seconds of the trailer for the first Dead Island game (there is video of that on Rooster Teeth's YT channel) for similar reasons. Now think, he suddenly hears that a man who is essentially a pedophile, a man who he probably helped to hire, has been in the room with his daughter for who knows how many times? If I were Geoff, I'd be freaking out too. Last things last, yes he has come out and admitted that he sexted with someone who was a fan of RT. To this I say...so? Until I see evidence that he was grooming or manipulating people in the same way that Ryan was, this is irrelevant, they were both consenting adults, and being a member of an international media group that has become incredibly popular over the years, it's not that difficult to fathom that when you start dating people online, someone will recognize you.
This was really well said. I agree on all your points.
Couldn't have been more well said/written. I agree.
The fact he owned up to sexting makes me believe him more. I mean he is honest. This man has been through hell and back and watching and hearing his journey has honestly been an inspiration for me to try to get myself out of the hole I’ve dug for me. I’ll never go through what he did, but if he can get better, so can I. All I see is Geoff wanting to be a good dad to Millie and I respect that. I am so upset because I trusted Ryan. I’m usually able to pick out people who are like that by a gut feeling, and I can avoid them, but Ryan, I thought he was really cool, and when I was 15 I looked up to him which is scary.
Until solid proof comes out, I will refuse to believe Geoff is a bad person. When I say solid, I mean cold hard undeniable evidence. This man has been through so much shit. Allegations like this can ruin lives, as seen by how Spoctor was thought to be a pedo when he was a minor, the guy almost just gave up on everything even though everything put against him was false.
How is Ryan and Adam terrible people? I keep saying that talking point but it's never been explained. He lost his job because he had consensual sex with adults. How that sex happens, whatever fetish shit he's into, is frankly nobody's business. The fact that any celebrity can have sex with anyone and have all their kinks be outed and get cancelled for it is what people should be upset about here.
A corporation destroying a man's life because of his sexual preferences is what is truly perverted here.
John Smith point being, for Ryan, a lot of what he did to said fans was against their will. Yes, you can consent to sex, but at the same time not consent to actions done during it. I haven’t kept up on it, but that’s what I’ve gathered so far at least?
I trust geoff. With his sebadical and everything during the timenwhere he was going through clearly marriage trouble. Im likely to believe him. Especially with griffin being a known lesbian before geoff marriage. Trever i think is just tsking the safe side with warner brothers with the latest outting of ryan and adam
Geoff already put put a statement which clears it all up and clears him of any involvement with Ryan.
where can i find this statement?
@Dibab i caught it, my bad
@vinek12 go be stupid somewhere else
vinek12 I can’t imagine Geoff being bad. He seems so genuine. Until solid proof comes out I’m standing with Geoff.
@vinek12 where? Is there an article or video on it or something?
This is all Insane to me to see such a dominant force in my childhood crumble so quickly it’s very frightening
Same bro
It’s so sad
It hurts brother, it hurts a lot.
Because they're firing their employees who are victims of their private sexual life being exposed. Scary that if you ever had clumsy sex with someone they could just send your text messages to your employer and have every media out there post it with nothing but unsubstantiated claims and nameless victims.
I have a heavy bias as I love all 3 of these people
Geoff: I personally trust every word he says. After watching the off topic podcast where he came forward about the hate in the community, and in RT, and brought to light the problems that Fiona, Mica, and many others faced. He is a trustworthy man, and he's worked to help every person he's hired, and no one knew the hidden truth.
Jeremy: Jeremy has said in the past(I believe early quarantine) that he was planning on returning to home. This isn't new, and he's struggling through so much even before this whole situation. He's obviously an alcoholic, and I've heard that he's struggling with his mental health, but he means the best. He needs to have a nice vacation back home, and reset. Especially since he was very close to Ryan being one of the Battle Buddies.
Trevor: Trevor has always been open to the community, and has always been a bright face. It's very hard to believe that he would do anything, especially physical abuse. He also wrote about how he's been dealing with these issues out of the view of the community for years now, and I'm hoping that one of the groups that he's worked with on these problems will step forward and defend him.
I'm sorry this is long, but like many community members I'm very worried. If this is like dominoes, one of these 3 could fall next. And then what happens after they fall? Do Michael and Gavin get accused of something? Or does RT and AH just disband? RT and AH have been there for us when we needed them most, and I hope I'm not alone in wanting to repay that favor.
Love for anyone who needs it:💚🖤💚 ❤🖤❤
Edit: If anyone doesn't believe Trevor they need to read his story. It has FACTS to prove he's a good man. It's honestly horrible the stuff they all have to deal with.
I believe Geoff. He was honest and I wish the girl had waited until making these statements about Geoff, the k*vic/h*ywood situation is too raw
Not saying allegations are false but they couldn’t have been better timing due to the other stuff getting leaked. Seems very suspicious.
My thought it WB has something to do with some of these leaks so they can easily clean house of RT
In combination with Warner Media's layoffs.
There's always false accusations mixed in with the real ones, people will stoop pretty low for attention.
Agreed
@@colecooper5836 but there's still real accusations that come out among other real accusations. Timing is not enough, it's often the reason people feel confident to speak out.
I don’t know about the Geoff situation. If he did do something like this I feel like in his statement he truly seemed like he had no ill intent. Geoff seems too genuine to ever do any of this.
What I learned from Geoff’s statement: he is incredibly smart. (By that I mean he has a clear understanding of writing and he’s a natural leader and he easily could have any job he wanted to have) he could do anything but he chose to make rooster teeth. He never had to do this but he chose to build a community for all of us RT fans. I have a new level of appreciation and admiration for Geoff. His openness about his battle with alcoholism helped me through many dark times and he’s an amazing human being. I just hope people can let him heal and he can come back to RT when he’s ready.
Edited for clarification
Why did you say you edited it in the edit?
Jeremy is the heart and soul of AH, he is a man who has a lot of demons in his mind that he has been open about since the lockdown began and I think he just needs to be with family, if he does a Ray and completely step away, I know I'll follow him, but I'm with y'all, I think he just needs his loved ones right now
I don’t think he is leaving RT/AH he is just moving back to Boston so Cat (Kat? Idk) and him can be closer to their families during all this Lockdown stuff. Especially cause RT said they were going to be from home till the end of the year.
Jeremy leaving RT would be like Michael or Gavin leaving. And his own channel wouldn't be as enjoyable without everyone else.
@@carsnob I disagree, his streams are hilarious and he as a personality could easily grow and become his own brand just like Ray, but I really hope it doesn't come to that, The Hap Tap lord himself is my big reason for still watching AH content
@@carsnob I think you forget all the contacts he has made over the years with other you tubers and twitch streamers.
@@Tribleman247 I actually almost think Jeremy could be bigger than Ray on his own as he seems to exert a lot of energy into solo playthroughs and has shown to be very charismatic with other people which is why people are so quick to like him. Ray, if I’m being honest, seemed burnt out the last time I saw him, which to be fair was almost a year ago.
Please remember for Jeremy he's someone who has panic attacks and LOVES his family (everyone from close Kat, to close family, to his cats). I can TOTALLY see him taking a few months break in New England to be with his family, especially with the whole Ryan incident continuing to come out. I wish him the best, and I hope he re-centers himself while around those he loves.
If I understood the video correctly I don’t even think it’s a break. Sounds like he will continue to work remotely and just decided to do it closer to family than isolated in Texas
@@Jiggysbigdaddy, Yep, he explained since they’re all working from home any way that it’d work if he was back in Boston. He’s coming back when this all ends.
He has panic attacks?
@@GenshinLover283, He mentioned it awhile ago, but yes.
@@R.-.W damn, that sucks
16+ years of listening to this man and watching his troubles, can tell he meant every word of that statement. Geoff doesn't deserve being dragged into this shit storm.
I wish AH could branch off from rooster teeth!
Seriously, unfortunately I don’t think that the Achievement Hunter and Let’s Play channels make enough money to support all of them.
@@duncangreen8871 Let's Play makes like 3 times the amount of money in ad revenue compared to Rooster Teeth. The only hard part would be to get sponsor that WB provides currently.
Apart from Adam Kovic, all the recent controversies came from inside AH; Ryan and Geoff were Achievement Hunters (Geoff and Jack founded the channel), and Trevor is the current head of AH. Splitting from RT wouldn't solve anything, and it definitely wouldn't have prevented this shit-storm from happening.
Finally a summary and update from someone that actually -knows- achievement hunter. The ones bashing the company nonstop and taking every little accusation as utter fact have never even watched the channel. They haven't grown up with these people. They are just vultures.
I just want happy AH back. I love them so much and this just hurts in every way.
If something happens with Jack or gus Im done
What about gav?
i'm more worried about Gav and Michael
@@kingofmonsters14 Honestly, of all the people it could have happened to, I'm least surprised it was Ryan.
@@alecwilliams8321 Edgar should've been a warning sign.
@@alecwilliams8321 Ryan is the only murderer type
It's terrible, funhaus and AH have gotten me through some rough times, but it will be better, sorry for all the girls that got taken advantage of, my thoughts and prayers go out to y'all, thank you for speaking out, love y'all.
People need to leave Geoff alone he wouldn’t lie about something like this. I stand with Geoff.
Dude, I have to say that this is by far the most measured and reasonable reporting on the shenanigans going on at RT right now. Especially when contrasted with the hate boners at Clownfish TV. Well done and keep up the good work.
I don't think calling it shenanigans is fair. That's their term for goofy messing around with each other. What's been (secretly) happening was sick and twisted, and the new copycat allegations are disgusting
I can’t believe that any of this stuff is true about Geoff or Trevor! Sure, everyone does shitty stuff throughout their life and makes big mistakes that haunt people throughout the rest of their life! In the time of this Ryan situation, I believe people are rising up against the rest of AH and trying to pin allegations against other members! I’d hate to believe that something like this could ruin a community that I’ve watched for such a long time and changed my life in a time of grief! I’m not denying that these types of things don’t happen, but I think a lot of this is distorted a false!
Why would they turn on Geoff. Geoff has gone through enough. He’s not the same person from the 2000’s. He’s good. I’m proud of Geoff, he has come so far. He’s a single parent, trying to get life back on track and he has stopped drinking. Stop attacking Geoff. He’s the heart of the group. He did not know anything about Ryan’s actions, so stop. I didn’t know what happened to Geoff until now. I feel bad for him. He has a daughter, why would he throw his life away. Geoff is one of the reasons why I started watching Achievement Hunter. From the let’s build, his scenarios to Gavin, playing scary games, rage on mini golf, his signature “oops”, chicken farm, and just being a great guy. This is my opinion, I think Jeremy will be back I hope. He knows that the community loves him. And since they aren’t returning until the end of the year, he has time to be with his family. Were in the middle of a pamdemic, I would too be close to my family.
vinek12 then link the video??? Or give us a title? Also people can change. I don’t know how recent it is, but I know of a streamer who was cheating on his GF and flirting with 17 Y/O and he’s now going to therapy and working really hard to change himself, he has disable his DMs, closed his discord server, and much more. Geoff used to be an alcoholic. He changed. Even if he was a creep before, he realised his wrong doing and changed. What’s different with Ryan is he is actively doing this and has yet to realise his wrong doings. Also Geoff was trying to fix his marriage through polyamory. There isn’t anything wrong with that in my mind if both parties were okay with that.
vinek12 he didn’t though? This crushed him man. People can change. I’ve changed. I can’t help what you think, but until there is more proof I will say Geoff is innocent. He’s been fighting and going through hell, and fuck, he’s an inspiration to me. If he can bounce back from his lowest, so can I.
I feel like if Trevor was really like that Barbara wouldn't stand for it and would immediately leave him and put him on blast
Lol Barb is woke af, I wouldn't trust her opinion any more than I could throw a car.
@@vanessar4141 I feel like you don't know what woke means, if that's your reason for not trusting someone
@Imperial Judesmen138 ok what does being woke mean to you?
@Imperial Judesmen138 ah so you don't know what being woke is lol, yeah that's just the narrative people who denie climate change, and are anti vaxxer and all that stuff, try to push on people who disagree with them
Being woke just means you are aware of things going on in the world, both good and bad, not about putting people down or any of that garbage
@@mr.waffles8739 sorry but you're mistaken sir, what you just described is based, not woke. The commenter before is correct.
Bruh...i just read through the shit that was sent to trevor and that man needs all the hugs. And geoff just needs love in his life right now more than ever.
I just feel so sorry for Geoff, how could he have known of the shit that would just even slightly make him look guilty. He seems genuine in what he's said and I hope he's feeling better soon.
Geoff shouldn't be dragged into this he was always forthright he went through so much to be pulled to this Ryan's BS 😢 he deserves his privacy that all he ask
Geoff is a victim of the world. He isn't guilty.
Jeremy has been struggling lately with a great deal, being around family always helps, him and Fredo are the future of AH... If it has one.
Some people just wanna lie at this point when the fire has been lit for publicity and I hate it... doing false accusations should be a crime at this point.
It is. It’s defamation of character! I’m 90% sure that is a crime.
I swear to god dude people who are going after Geoff with allegations are pathetic the mans broken and has been for a awhile and now this situation with Ryan has brought more grief now people are going after him for what seems to be that they want attention and that’s a sick joke to do to this broken man that’s healing. God bless Geoff Ramsey and hope he gets well he will always be in my heart.
I’m just gonna guess that all of them are eventually gonna be accused of something because fans are gonna see a opportunity to get attention from RT
I relate to Geoff as far as alcohol addiction and sometimes want to relapse. I hope he's innocent, Glad he somewhat returned and want to wish him the best.
Geoff and Jack is what got me into watching Achievement Hunter and helping me get some difficult Achievements in Videogames with their achievement guide Videos
This is just plain dumb. The allegations against Geoff (aside from him knowing Ryan's doings, but the one who made the allegations retracted that statement) aren't even noteworthy or contentious. If it is false, it is not incriminating. If it is true, it is STILL not incriminating. Its literally a non-issue, why tf is this even a controversy...
I love Geoff
And I also don’t think Trevor is abusive or evil, especially after reading his statement.
Jeremy said in last night's stream the plan is to move back when the office opens again, also seems from a throw away comment from Kat that they both had grandparents in ill health over the last year so being closer is better whilst not physically needed in Austin.
Geoff's statement and his private past checks out honestly. I feel like people are now firing on all cylinders bc people are like that. I dont think Geoff did anything wrong
IF it helps Griffin said several times on different podcasts towards the end of their marriage that she didn't believe that monogamy was a realistic state for people.
I think Jeremy is just taking advantage of the work from home and working near his family. I would do the exact same thing as him.
Honestly, I have family up in Massachusetts too and much prefer living there compared to living where I am now, Florida. I had friends here and got a great paying job but after shit hit the fan in March I now have neither of those after my friends decided they no longer needed me and my job couldn’t afford to keep me on. I still live with my parents and brother but none want to move back. I felt so much calmer and happier up there and feel absolutely miserable down here so I absolutely understand why Jeremy and Kay are moving. Why stay in a place that caused you so much pain.
I dont see Jeremy as someone to leave quietly and subtly. He talks all the time how he loves making content. His books, music, twitch, and of course rt. And he always says rt is his biggest of all passions. So if anything I would expect him to try and work even harder to repair ah and rt after the whole situation and after he takes a break and spends some much needed time with family.
2020 had just been a fucked up year. Horrible are popping up and the true good people like Jack, Geoff, Jeremy, Trevor, Alfredo, Michael, Lindsey, Fiona are being thrown under a bus because of stupid people
I believe Geoff as much as I've believed him so far. His story lines up, and the way he was thrown under the bus was messed up, and I felt that way before he put his statement out. In fact I had even wondered if he and Griffin had tried out something like polyamory considering their personalities. It sucks that he felt he had to come out and say something. I hope he heals up from whatever is going on. I believe Trevor too. And I'm feeling bad for everyone affected by this: Ryan's family, friends, coworkers, and victims. I have never been so upset by a celebrity scandal like this before. And I know better than to think that TH-camrs put all their life out on social media. And it still hurts.
Ryan was the reason I started watching Achievement Hunter and then Rooster Teeth. I loved his dark humor and my friends who also watched AH would joke about how I acted like the Battle Buddies (Jeremy + Ryan team name.) It hurts every single time I see something come out about what he's done but I watch it every time because I need to know. I honestly hope he finds the help he needs.
I’ve missed Geoff so much these past months. I’m so glad he has cleared things up on the Reddit and my heart goes out to him. I hope he’s okay and things get better. I would love to have him on an Off Topic or RT Podcast at some point but I hope that is only when he’s ready.
Edit: I would also love to see him play some golf again. Love the classic golf Geoff
The man is already going trough a hard time and you want him to play golf? do you even like geoff? :P
@@NurBurG_N3RD and I quote “I would love to have him on off topic or RT Podcast at some point, but I hope that is only when he’s ready” I assumed any normal person would think the same about my golf statement
Trevor statement brought me to tears about his past relationship. I'm so sorry you had to go thru that man.
BTW putting Jeremy Leave Austin makes everyone flip out when really he is just moving back to be closer to family. RT announced they would be working from home for the rest of the year so it make sense he wants to near his family. Respect that decision Lil J.
It hurts to hear but I still love Geoff... he’s filled my childhood with good memories and laughs. I know he needs time to recooperate but I hope there could still be some more good times eventually.
It’s very heartbreaking to see my childhood crumble. :(
a very fair and measured commentary, thank you - you're the type of voice we need in the me too era, treating allegations with the seriousness they deserve, but not immediately damning anyone without evidence.
Look. I believe that Geoff would have 100% owned up to his bullshit, as he had for Rooster Teeth, as he had for Achievement Hunter, and as he had for himself all in his past. He was casted in the army, he knows the terms "respect" and "disrespect" hold heavy weight. I 100% think he is completely out of the wrong and I know wholeheartedly that he did not do anything like this. We can expect all we want out of anyone, even if we know them entirely or seem to know them entirely, but what Ryan did shocked us all. It really did. We grew with him, we loved him we laughed with him; accepted him. And to say these things about two of the many fucking backbones of Rooster Teeth and Achievement Hunter, wether it be true or not, is profound and unusual that it had to take one person speaking out for a plethora more to be outcast, but I can digress all I'd like. I do sincerely hope that Jeremy finds his peace with his wife and develops his own character, just as Ray. I'd be wrong if I said Geoff did anything, and although his statement hasn't been released, I don't want to believe any of these stories, because God Damn do they tug at my heart strings.
Do people not remember WWII when we fought actual monsters? What does any of this have to do with their day jobs? I love hearing people say “it wasn’t illegal, but…” You don’t make the damn laws, and you aren’t the judge, jury and executioner. Let the courts deal with this.
Treh brought the receipts, two primary sources and an annotated bibliography.
if geoff and trevor consensually knocked boots with another adult, so what? it doesnt matter. it doesnt matter how they met, if they are fans, if any one of them were cheating. its their personal life and outside of breaking a law they can do pretty much whatever they want - just like everyone else. Ryan did not break any laws that anyone has spoken of, almost legal is legal so that shit dont matter. i dont know or care if ryan was fired or quit but if he was fired then RT is perfectly fine in doing so as the whole thing effects their business, if you fuck with your employers business then thats a good reason to fire you. that just sensible business practice. This is a problem with placing "famous" people on some sort of pedestal when you realy dont know a damn thing about them. You know what they have told you., what they have let you see and then when that pedestal crumbles your world collapses. What Ryan did was kinda sleezy but not one of those women were innocent - they ALL KNEW HE WAS MARRIED so guess they are kinda sleezy too . Sleezy is not being a monster.
this whole Geoff situation is why some people still don't take victims seriously, it's pretty obviously a vindictive ex trying to get a mob to form around him. So much of his life, insecurities and struggles have been broadcast to the world. I can see why you would so desperately cling to the few private parts of your life you still have left, this must have felt like such a knife in the back from the community and trust me it's not the people who hate Geoff that will push him out of RT and AH it'll be the fans who can't respect his space and struggles.
It’s like Geoff himself said, “Y’all motherfuckers wanna watch Rome burn.”
The hatedom surrounding Rooster Teeth is honestly sickening, you have full on channels dedicated to trashing, harassing and spreading hate on them. All under the guise of ‘Well they deserve to for x! You’re just a fanatic fan!”
Like no duh you shouldn’t worship a company, but Christ the sheer zeal and pleasure people come from seeing bad stuff happen is disgusting. All because ‘this show was bad’ or ‘they’re too woke/left leaning” or “this person isnt funny, so I hate them”.
Like you can be a critic of them without hating them. I got issues with RWBY. Still like it but it’s flawed no doubt. You have poles like that hero guy who literally make it their mission to shit on it nonstop. Like wtf it’s a show, it’s not even passion for it to be better at that point.
Honestly I hope Geoff is okay eventually, and they bounce back from these past few days.
Dear viewers, this is pretty well put together and had obvious time and effort put in. Why are there half as many comments as subscribers? Give ya boi some support!
The Geoff accusation appears to be someone trying to bandwagon, something that I expected to happen. This is why proof is so important, especially when making these kind of accusations as they have long reaching ramifications. This is why after the initial accusations came out I scrutinize the newer claims closely, looking for proofs to add on to prove the validity of the accusation. While both Adam and Ryan have been proven to be scummy towards their (probably soon-to-be-former) significant other, there will be those that bandwagon for clout and internet fame rather than exposing something that happened to them or something they participated in. And while you can argue that we should believe everyone in this kinds of scenarios, I want the truth. Not the interpretation of "your truth" but THE truth. The truth in this instance is that Ryan and Adam are scummy, the only remaining factor is how deep does the rabbit hole go?
As for the fall of Rooster Teeth in general, I'd say it started with them selling the company out to Warner Media. This is the main reason people like Trevor and Geoff have had to make statements, because Warner is cleaning house and you can guarantee that anyone smelling sus will be shown the front door. There has been speculation on the leaving of Burnie and Gus, that being them seeing the writing on the walls and turn and burning before they were on the chopping block for whatever reason (some speculation is that they knew to some extent or something). If you want more of the business-y side of things, I'd check out some of the videos done by Clownfish TV (whether you like them or not) as they too have been keeping a close eye on this from an industry perspective as that's what their channel focuses on (industry news).
I don't think Geoff did anything wrong or even near the caliber of Ryan. I think Geoff looked in the community, realized and recognized the power imbalance and cut it off because he didn't want to do the type of shit Ryan was. Also the fact that Geoff and Griffon both were open about everything with each other and people they were seeing puts them in a completely different category than Ryan.
I think it's horrible Trevor and Geoff have had to release such personal information online.
The OP with Geoff has edited her statement twice to fit in line with Geoffs statement, I didnt believe her from ths start.....why keep Ryan's evidence but not Geoffs
Theres no way Geoff would have kept things quiet about Ryan, he has a daughter a few years younger than Ryan's victims
Thank y’all for keeping us informed and not trying to stab RT/AH while they are down.
The only thing Trevor is guilty of is cooming in his own mouth
It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if more people falsely accuse members of Ah Like Michael or Gavin etc.
Not even! Gavin and Micheal is definitely not like that. Unless you have proof. You shouldn't paint others with the same brush.
Can we also take those who come up with these accusations just to destroy a person's career/life and label them, too, as Predators?
That's not a bad idea actually....or maybe like Scavengers
At minimum, guilty of slander. And liable for damages caused by their false accusations
they're "women" so therefore the shitty justice system the US has doesn't punish women
Geoff has already made a statement. He completely opened up about his mental health and the end of his previous marriage. Everything was consensual and he even admitted it wasn't for him. Nothing on what RH did and shouldn't be associated as such.
At the end of the day these are online personalities who are under the microscope right now by Warner Media and it appears to me Geoff and Trevor have to issue these statements because if speculations go crazy the Warner execs will pull the plug just to be safe. I honestly do not see Rooster Teeth lasting more than a year and their best case scenario is being sold to a rich indie dude and they can go back to basics again. That is, however, a pipe dream.
As a woman, I believe Geoff and Trevor. Ryan was a creep to begin with, but Geoff and Trevor were level-headed.
Holy shit. There goes my childhood.
Geoff was my favorite of the group, i really hope everything turns out ok for him and all of rooster teeth/ achievement hunter.
"cancel culture" is going too far. Geoff and Trevor did nothing wrong. People need to leave them out of this
I was wondering last week why i havent seen many uploads from AH recently, this is all brand new to me I’m SHOCKED
"Geoff's long tirade" you mean Geoff's calm explanation?
Weird how people are debating the age of consent and what’s “creepy”. How about if you’re older than 21, DON’T TRY TO SLEEP WITH TEENAGERS!
You'd think, but some people are extremely twisted.
can someone explain to me what the allegation against geoff is I feel I missed what the actual accusation was against him
That he send nudes to people. His post was to say it wasn’t to a fan and was on a dating site so it shouldn’t be viewed as predatory like [Redacted]
@@simonstephens3976 ah gotcha thanks
old.reddit.com/r/RyanHaywood/comments/jdeqvn/zurich/
Somewhere in the middle is Geoffs part supposedly.
Having the internet has almost removed people's responsibility to learn social etiquette. How is this not part of the school curriculum? My daughter has had an Ethics class for 4 years now.
I don't get why any of this is framed as 'Ryan behind Achievement hunters back'
How many people you work with come to you and ask permission to cheat on the mother of their children?
Apparently if you're into some kinky shit and a woman decides to post about it on reddit, you get cancelled and your 10+ year long friends will all turn on your immediately. Great move, RT.
They weren't just co-workers, they were friends and if my friends abused and raped the women with whom they were cheating on their spouse with, I'd also feel betrayed by all that going on behind my back and cut off all ties with them
@@ICHMUSSMALPIPI Can you find me even allegations of rape and abuse?
Unless we're counting his desperate pleading to take down evidence of their relationships which I agree, implying he'll kill himself is a cowardly move.
This was bound to happen. Someone with either a chip on their shoulder or misconstruing events to suit a narrative. Anyone should feel like they can tell their story and be heard, but it's equally important to take things with a grain of salt and remember that there are three sides to every story; your side, my side and the truth.
Can we please get a we survived 2020 t-shirt at the end of the year?
Seems like nothing will survive 2020 at this point
This doesn't feel like a man trying to hide something. If there is one thing we know about Geoff, its that he's honest and doesn't really hide anything (like he said, we all know so much about his personal life). If this is true it would destroy the very foundation of RT and I can't see any feasible way that happens. We know too much for too long for me to believe these allegation.
It always happens once there's a controversy like this, the false claims start pouring in for attention.
so I know im late here, but I'm reading the texts between Trevor and Emily and... I'm just speechless. I'll be honest when I first heard the story a while ago (maybe December) I believed Emily, but now I just feel so terrible that Trevor had to go though that. If you haven't read the texts, they are awful, and I'm shocked that Trevor didn't say something earlier. Poor guy.
holy crap i feel so sorry for trevor if his letter is true. that is so scary
Wait what letter?
I dont keep up enough now to know.
@@OneWackMedivac Okay so Trevor's ex-girlfriend Emily tried to accuse Trevor of being abusive in their past relationship, however Trevor wrote a very long detailed statement basically a letter to the fans and to Emily that he did nothing wrong and even has screenshots and other evidence as proof that Emily was the abusive one even taking shots at Barbara and calling her a slut and a whore, and she became a bit of a stalker which scared him and Barbs. So he's in the all clear, since this allegation has been going on for a while i think back when he was first hired.
It's a very long statement with so many screenshots and the texts from Emily are disturbing
@@hannahhobnob20 I had to stop reading her texts in that tirade of hers. It was scary shit.
@@christopherriley6299 it really was, she was practically stalking him at one point
Honestly I haven’t watched AH in about 5 years but I think Geoff is a standup dude so idk.
Man, I really enjoyed your video and analysis but jeez the among us gameplay was a lil insensitive. All the black jokes that slip by in the chat constantly was so discomforting. You
On the Geoff thing, a psychological note. The personal tragedy, whatever it was, could have been something relatively minor (as tragedies go), but compounded with other stresses, can be magnified into something incredibly traumatic in someone's mind, especially if actions are taken which they later regret. Point is, whatever happened, no matter what it is, has left a deep wound in him. This is only compounded by Ryan's actions. That brings me to Jack; just keep being Geoff's friend dude. He needs you right now.
Now, as for Ryan...and please hear me out for my reasoning. I largely disregard the accounts which are purely anecdotal due to ease of fabrication. It takes no effort to write a story. However, there is enough evidence in verified cases that renders the anecdotal cases irrelevant. It doesn't matter if we have those or not. We have plenty of chat logs, screen shots, photos and video to show that there is something deeply wrong with Ryan Haywood and that he has taken advantage of multiple young women.