I just switched from fifa a few days ago to PES. The community is much more kind and helpful. I needed to get away from the toxic pay to win structure of EA. I appreciate your videos as these help A LOT for someone who is struggling to adapt to the simulation style of game.
This is what i call the "Scum" formation, it relies on the game's technical problems rather than the principles of the sport. You may win 80%of the matches through brute-spamming passes but you will stay a "C" no matter how long you spent.
I feel like some comments are missing the point that this is a "play to win" formation, and winning matches is literally a pro's job. I agree that it's overpowered though, and I'm happy that the pro cup is 3v3 since it makes it easier to defend against 1-2s and more entertaining to watch. I'd still be curious on your thoughts about fluid formations and going full red/blue! Btw, good luck with Arsenal! I'll stick to Celtic just like last season and I feel like counter target is helpful with Edouard to make good use of him the whole 90 mins.
Thanks for the tip with Edouard! I also really enjoy playing Celtic in Online Tournament, where I try the different formations. They have a good variety of people on all positions. It helps that I've had a sweet spot for the team since Henrik Larsson's time. 😉 I do really like your username Minanda PES - ML Default is a favourite offline mode and I have great respect for the older games. And lastly, big congrats to Indominator!
@@nod32ia I like to use Griffiths as a sub and the Edouard-Griffiths combo in the 2nd half has been working well for me. Good luck, maybe we'll face each other! I mostly remember Larsson from his matches with Sweden but I do like Celtic as well :)
I been 4-3-3 since FIFA 10 when I started. It matches my style of play. Always 1 CDM and 2 CM. And one CM more like an attacking Mid and and true CM and destroyer CDM who can shoot from distance and posses well. Wingers who can make incisive runs as well as cross well. And always and I can’t stress enough always full backs who get forward but have stamina to track back a lot as they’ll be attacking a lot
I can say now that after a few games it feels very much like playing as my "sweaty" opponents. Not my cup of tea, but definitely a very effective one. My regular styles are variants on your 4-3-1-2 tutorial. I've also had some successes with lesser teams with your 5-1-3-1 formation from PES.
You got the containment area part back to front: if your opponent has wingers, set containment area to CENTRE to make them play in the middle. If your opponent plays through the middle, set containment to WIDE to force them to play on the wing
Containwide wide means your players will be compact, if your playing a team who likes to play down the wing it's best to use wide containment as it makes sure your players spread out more etc
@@Karizma231 no, double check the definitions in the game/on forums. Wide containment means “force attacking team out wide” and centre containment means “force attacking team down the middle”
@@AkaraEtteh That's what I always thought as that's how its explained in the game. But if you look at Spoonys Pizza on youtube, he test them both and proves they are indeed what I said, mad confusing for real.
Related question: When playing against a similar formation, do you recommend playing offside trap to combat long ball against CF? Most times I manage to clear away, but other times I'm hopeless.
Thank you for you nice video Men I really appreciate. What I want to see and I think the most important in game play is the curseur switch to select the right player. I Wan to know how it's possible to choose the right player as quickly as possible to better defend. The most of the time I can read what the opponent passes but the most of the time I can't select the right player even using the R3. I have played against many top ranked player in myclub and I was impressed how they can always choose the right player to cut my passes. Thanks a lot in advance
I always combine Tiki Taka & Counter Attack from attacking instruction. It looks weird though, it really work. We have a lot of chances to make not only 1-2 passes, but also 1-2-3 passes(ha ha).
Guy, so true. I have been so good at my ends here because I do so. The 1 - 2 and even 3 pass is possible. It also makes me have more options for scoring up front.😊
@@lr-oc3zu sigo siendo manco.. jaja.. No. jugando Myclub, soy más de posición y salir con el juego limpio. Con el sistema 4-2-1-3 con extremos. Me gusta que los laterales tengan Llegadas. Y pues ahí luchandola.. esta parte de enseñanza entrará en los juegos fuera de Myclub.. 👍🏽👍🏽 No entro mucho a la consola por ahora.
Which myclub manager got the 3 cf switch possible? coz I have this formation but my manager cant only switch them to ss and still so wide cant be narrowed. Thanks for the info. :)
@@Kamilovsky15 I'm currently building my own studio / gaming room, so I don't have time to create any content the next 2 weeks. Once the studio is finished, I'll be back uploading new videos mate! 😉👍
What I find missing in those kind of videos is constantly missing a whole point of tactics. It's always 11 vs 11 and formation is always a 'rock paper scissors' kind of game. There will be always some formation wich you can win almost every formation but not all. So the answer for question "What is the best formation?" should be "it depends". What I miss its deeper understanding of those dependecies and how to find zones opened by your opponent. - Still best channel about PES - Best Regards :)
actually i have some questions for you IN MY TEAM i have isco ,ozil,partey and pogba plus depay and LACA up front , show i am just trying to figure out some, formation to somehow fit them in the starting eleven . Theres one thing i want my midfielders ( especially when I am playing against defensive - oriented teams) to start their attempts from the wide and then while i am manually cutting insinde with one of my midfielders i want the rest of the midfielders plus the forwards to come close show i cant actually make some combinations.I suppose that 41212 willdo for what am asking , but i would like to haave your opinion plus what are the preferable advance , attacking and defensive settings for this type of game. Also i would like my players especially the forwards to make runs behind the defence or some times drift wide if there is not much space... Thank you in advance!!!
Hey mate. I usually started with just defensive and counter targets. Depending on how the matches go, I use some other advanced instructions based on my opponent's playing styles
So man, I did the instructions and everything you put in the video, but I used a different tactic, but it was 4-2-1-3, would it make any difference in the style of play?
I always advice players not to use the same formations or tactics others use. It's good to expirement the same tactics on a different formation that suits you mate. As long as you feel comfortable playing with, use it! 😁👍
You are great bro but i'm very confused that which pass support level do you use in new meta. When i played this formation i used to play with lv1 but sometimes it causes passing mistakes
Bang, plis jawab, tips bertahan dg lawan menggunakan 4312 dg taktik passing cepat 1-2 nya, adv defennya swarm the box atau deep defensif line? Plis bg, ini lg sparing sama yg pro
It's probably because you're playing MyClub mode. In MyClub you have to sign managers with certain formations and their tactics. If you're playing in a normal offline exhibition match or online divsions you are able change formations and tactics manually.
Because you're playing myclub and you're limited to your manager's game plans in myclub. It's only possible to fully change positions in online divisions or any other mode except myclub
What about the defensive line? It will not work if you play with weak defenders such as Argentina, I hope you can help me with a good formation and tactics for Argentina 🙏
Thanks for the video but how can I download this type of your game mine is not like that of your own please help me I want you tell me how to download that your game please
first goal - offside - pes refs are blind or konami made mbappe the player no one covers and can do whatever he wants like they did once with Adriano .. .
Because of defending conservative, your players won't press when losing the ball. They will fall back and they have a lot of space and time for their teammates to fall back, which makes it less risky.
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I just switched from fifa a few days ago to PES. The community is much more kind and helpful. I needed to get away from the toxic pay to win structure of EA. I appreciate your videos as these help A LOT for someone who is struggling to adapt to the simulation style of game.
U did the best choice
Same dude I do sbc get trash n I switched to pess
pes is even worse, lag cheats meta formations and 3 meta players needed if u want to score a goal from 1v1 situation
FIFA is more like a futsal..pes is more like a realism..❤️
Welcome to the pes community mate
This is what i call the "Scum" formation, it relies on the game's technical problems rather than the principles of the sport. You may win 80%of the matches through brute-spamming passes but you will stay a "C" no matter how long you spent.
😂😂
I agree with you I3ORDO
Clever comment. Really agree with you
feels like people don't wanna enjoy playing games anymore
Agreed. It is such a false formation for most of the players that are out there.
I feel like some comments are missing the point that this is a "play to win" formation, and winning matches is literally a pro's job. I agree that it's overpowered though, and I'm happy that the pro cup is 3v3 since it makes it easier to defend against 1-2s and more entertaining to watch. I'd still be curious on your thoughts about fluid formations and going full red/blue!
Btw, good luck with Arsenal! I'll stick to Celtic just like last season and I feel like counter target is helpful with Edouard to make good use of him the whole 90 mins.
Thanks for the tip with Edouard! I also really enjoy playing Celtic in Online Tournament, where I try the different formations. They have a good variety of people on all positions. It helps that I've had a sweet spot for the team since Henrik Larsson's time. 😉
I do really like your username Minanda PES - ML Default is a favourite offline mode and I have great respect for the older games.
And lastly, big congrats to Indominator!
@@nod32ia I like to use Griffiths as a sub and the Edouard-Griffiths combo in the 2nd half has been working well for me. Good luck, maybe we'll face each other!
I mostly remember Larsson from his matches with Sweden but I do like Celtic as well :)
I been 4-3-3 since FIFA 10 when I started. It matches my style of play. Always 1 CDM and 2 CM. And one CM more like an attacking Mid and and true CM and destroyer CDM who can shoot from distance and posses well. Wingers who can make incisive runs as well as cross well. And always and I can’t stress enough always full backs who get forward but have stamina to track back a lot as they’ll be attacking a lot
This is not football. Pes must do something about it.
Ini sih formasi serangan balik.. Dr pes 2020 emg formasi serangan balik ga ada obat..
Top bro thanks for the tips plus one subscriber didn’t know you had a channel I’ll follow you in time
Thanks for the clear explanation! But, why didn't you show us how it's gone to 3 goals for your enemy?
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Thanks for advice..you help me allot i became international player for my contry
thanks to the formation given, now I can already beat the legend with a score of 6-0
damn im strugelling to beat big team 5+ goal in top player
Like your every other videos, nice and clean one. Can you show your favorite tactic. Wish u luck with Arsenal in competitive arena! :)
Thanks mate, I appreciate it. My favourite formation will be in the next ''Pro Tactics'' video ;)
For positioning its important that your DMF should be in center than your AMF
Not necessarily, depending if you want your DMF to play more on the left side or right, same counts for the CMF
@@Indominator94 As the pro players most attack through the middle thats better i think , but not nessecary as you said lol.
NGl the formation actually amazing play with my brother and beat him most of the times😮😮👌👌
Thanks for your explanations of this 4213 . Delighting as usual. Take care
Thanks bro your video really helped me
Thanks for a great vid, I'll try that out. My online stats has improved a lot from your videos!
I can say now that after a few games it feels very much like playing as my "sweaty" opponents.
Not my cup of tea, but definitely a very effective one. My regular styles are variants on your 4-3-1-2 tutorial. I've also had some successes with lesser teams with your 5-1-3-1 formation from PES.
You got the containment area part back to front: if your opponent has wingers, set containment area to CENTRE to make them play in the middle. If your opponent plays through the middle, set containment to WIDE to force them to play on the wing
Containwide wide means your players will be compact, if your playing a team who likes to play down the wing it's best to use wide containment as it makes sure your players spread out more etc
@@Karizma231 no, double check the definitions in the game/on forums. Wide containment means “force attacking team out wide” and centre containment means “force attacking team down the middle”
@@AkaraEtteh That's what I always thought as that's how its explained in the game. But if you look at Spoonys Pizza on youtube, he test them both and proves they are indeed what I said, mad confusing for real.
@@Karizma231 love Spoony...will watch now
Thanks bro this formation and tactics suits me
I would like to ask your opinion about "tight marking". Is it efficient for you? And if not why? Keep up your great work
Related question: When playing against a similar formation, do you recommend playing offside trap to combat long ball against CF? Most times I manage to clear away, but other times I'm hopeless.
Offside trap is a good idea
May I know what advanced instructions you using, my players seem to behave differently than in your highlights. :sad:
(Great video btw :333)
Thank you for you nice video Men I really appreciate. What I want to see and I think the most important in game play is the curseur switch to select the right player. I Wan to know how it's possible to choose the right player as quickly as possible to better defend. The most of the time I can read what the opponent passes but the most of the time I can't select the right player even using the R3. I have played against many top ranked player in myclub and I was impressed how they can always choose the right player to cut my passes. Thanks a lot in advance
Thank you so much for sharing the video. It really worked for me
I use 352 with two midfielders joining the attack
What about for custom formations, do a video on that. Formations that you can’t make adjustments too
Formation 4 3 3
Neymar Ibrahimovic Messi
Di Maria
Pogba
Vidal
Marcelo Luiz Dijk Alves
This is my drem team from 2010-2020.
hello genius !! your videos are very good, congratulations! Question what DT would I recommend similar to the video in myclub? thank you
Soy de argentina I am from Argentina
Great video 👏🏿
kemarin saya lihat di berita di sosmed, katanya mas keturunan Semarang yach... dan baru saja di kontrak ARSENAL
Bro can you make a video on which balanced stat team is better for efootball open.
Great suggestion bro, will see if I can do that ;)
I always combine Tiki Taka & Counter Attack from attacking instruction. It looks weird though, it really work. We have a lot of chances to make not only 1-2 passes, but also 1-2-3 passes(ha ha).
Guy, so true. I have been so good at my ends here because I do so. The 1 - 2 and even 3 pass is possible. It also makes me have more options for scoring up front.😊
Buenísimo.. a ponerlo en práctica y no manquear mucho.. 😅😅
Excelente tu aportación.. 👍🏽👍🏽
Como t fue?
@@lr-oc3zu sigo siendo manco.. jaja..
No. jugando Myclub, soy más de posición y salir con el juego limpio. Con el sistema 4-2-1-3 con extremos. Me gusta que los laterales tengan Llegadas. Y pues ahí luchandola.. esta parte de enseñanza entrará en los juegos fuera de Myclub.. 👍🏽👍🏽
No entro mucho a la consola por ahora.
In my first game using this formation I scored 5 goals THANKS A LOT :)
Great to hear mate! 😍👌
@@Indominator94 Just won another match lol
Hi, which is the best formation in your opinion? and what tactics?
TY Lets see if this works with Colo Colo hehe
Which myclub manager got the 3 cf switch possible? coz I have this formation but my manager cant only switch them to ss and still so wide cant be narrowed.
Thanks for the info. :)
There will be no more 3CF managers in MyClub. It's way too OP. Same goes to 4CB
Can you tell me which coach on myclub is suitable for this?
There are no coaches in myclub with 3 cf unfortunately
@@Indominator94 such a shame :/
@IndominatorTV maybe create video formation and Tactics to Tiki Taka style? 😊
I'm already working on that ;)
@@Indominator94 Cool! I mean a tactic where you can play a nice ball and players will be nice to get into a clean position.
@@Indominator94 I hope it will work well in cooperation.
@@Indominator94 finish?😊
@@Kamilovsky15 I'm currently building my own studio / gaming room, so I don't have time to create any content the next 2 weeks. Once the studio is finished, I'll be back uploading new videos mate! 😉👍
whats the best skill to teach for a cmf player?!
Which is the best in master league? I play legend
Thanks for help ;)!
Nice Yos thanks for sharing ;)
What I find missing in those kind of videos is constantly missing a whole point of tactics. It's always 11 vs 11 and formation is always a 'rock paper scissors' kind of game. There will be always some formation wich you can win almost every formation but not all. So the answer for question "What is the best formation?" should be "it depends". What I miss its deeper understanding of those dependecies and how to find zones opened by your opponent. - Still best channel about PES - Best Regards :)
actually i have some questions for you
IN MY TEAM i have isco ,ozil,partey and pogba plus depay and LACA up front , show i am just trying to figure out some, formation to somehow fit them in the starting eleven . Theres one thing i want my midfielders ( especially when I am playing against defensive - oriented teams) to start their attempts from the wide and then while i am manually cutting insinde with one of my midfielders i want the rest of the midfielders plus the forwards to come close show i cant actually make some combinations.I suppose that 41212 willdo for what am asking , but i would like to haave your opinion plus what are the preferable advance , attacking and defensive settings for this type of game. Also i would like my players especially the forwards to make runs behind the defence or some times drift wide if there is not much space...
Thank you in advance!!!
Play 4-2-2-2
@@elyontheheel okay yeah , I understand , but what about the tactics
what do you press to change player position ?
Don't you only use advanced tactics and defense and the rest? , Don't you use counters or anchoring? Please give me a detailed answer. Thank you.
Hey mate. I usually started with just defensive and counter targets. Depending on how the matches go, I use some other advanced instructions based on my opponent's playing styles
Wow 😮 is very wonderful
Please leave a very good and new composition of the Paris team with the presence of Messi, Ramos, Valiantom and Ashraf💙
So man, I did the instructions and everything you put in the video, but I used a different tactic, but it was 4-2-1-3, would it make any difference in the style of play?
I always advice players not to use the same formations or tactics others use. It's good to expirement the same tactics on a different formation that suits you mate. As long as you feel comfortable playing with, use it! 😁👍
@@Indominator94 thank you man, good luck on the channel!
I have a question. Why you dont use Kehrer and Danilo for attackting deffence player? Like Alexander Arnold and Robertson?
Because they’re cb’s and not backs. You already have 3 attackers + an amc that’s enough
Thanks 😍
can this be used for playing against legend?
You are great bro but i'm very confused that which pass support level do you use in new meta. When i played this formation i used to play with lv1 but sometimes it causes passing mistakes
I always play pass lvl 1 mate
How to play against 4222 formation
I have very serious problems with moving players on the plan..as I want to move them. How can i do this. Mouse is not working...
How can I play with liverpool with this game plane???
Congratulations for the Arsenal Pes Team !!!
Thanks bro!
Bang, plis jawab, tips bertahan dg lawan menggunakan 4312 dg taktik passing cepat 1-2 nya, adv defennya swarm the box atau deep defensif line? Plis bg, ini lg sparing sama yg pro
4:40 how did u do that with Icardi?
Press R2 before the player touches the ball, so he will make a dummy run 😉👍
heyy.. how to beat this formation. my friend using this formation and its so hard to beat him. can u help me please?
Play with 3-4-3 Beat him with the wing
@@ramazanualvinas4455 how about att/def instructions?
Yeah, ah 343, 352 or 442 wide works well against 433
@@Indominator94 woww tysm it works. make a content like this it's really helpful for me n people who have struggled with a tactics
@@Indominator94 for both attacking and defence instractions i set it wide ?
How to buy pes 2021 member ship
Plz help me
Keren,, live dmn bro?
Live di youtube channel ini boss
Thanks
Can u tell me how u are changing this options? I mean i can't choose formation, i have blocked all switching options like attacking style or build up.
It's probably because you're playing MyClub mode. In MyClub you have to sign managers with certain formations and their tactics. If you're playing in a normal offline exhibition match or online divsions you are able change formations and tactics manually.
@@Indominator94 That's explain everything. Thank you very much
How about advance instruction?
Use 1 ??
Thank You Indominator,,, it is doing Miracles for me,,, 🎮⚽🔥👍
how to change the position mine is often locked i cant shift my lwf & rwf into cf
Because you're playing myclub and you're limited to your manager's game plans in myclub. It's only possible to fully change positions in online divisions or any other mode except myclub
halo, i'm just play ps4
how to move player position when set formation like that ?
move to the left, middle or right
You have to hold the X button to move a player at formation
does this apply any other online division teams?
Me and my friends make a league every weekend, im gonna try and win it with this strat. I was wondering what game speed do pros play on?
We all play on game speed 0 mate.
Thank you
What about the defensive line? It will not work if you play with weak defenders such as Argentina, I hope you can help me with a good formation and tactics for Argentina 🙏
Thankyou sensei🧎
4-42 would be nice
and no counter attack on center forwards?
Hi, can u teach me how to unlock the formation position at my club PS4?
kamu mainnya keren banget bro🤣👍🏻
Makasih ya bro :)
@@Indominator94 sama2 bro👍🏻
Thanks 😉
You good mean I click sub and 👍
Can you make how to use 4231 formation or 4321
Pro please can you show us how to link pes mobile to computer. Like i need to change my konami id to computer
Thanks for the video but how can I download this type of your game mine is not like that of your own please help me I want you tell me how to download that your game please
Please w need videos for how to speed control in mini place in attack like you Dow
Hello ,,How do that? Minute 4.40 icardi turn?
Just before you are about to touch the ball, hold R2 (on ps4) and then your player will do the dummy run 😉
tem alguma configuração básica se referindo a internet?
Formasi yang sangat Bagus 🔝
saya akan mencoba Formasi ini
Enjoy 🎮
I can't play with 3 CF... Why?
Played first game online ever ,used this ,seemed ok ,prefer master league though ,seems shit online
first goal - offside - pes refs are blind or konami made mbappe the player no one covers and can do whatever he wants like they did once with Adriano ..
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Where are you from
Indonesia bro
Mee too, do you living in abroad?
Yes, Netherlands bro
Why i can not change these tactics? They are locked!
I assume you play MyClub mode. You can't change formation manually in MyClub, only in online divisions or efootball mode
When Did u switch to Arsenal
Will be soon announced!
Isn't risky defensive line 8??
Because of defending conservative, your players won't press when losing the ball. They will fall back and they have a lot of space and time for their teammates to fall back, which makes it less risky.
Is this suit for Liverpool ?
Yes, suitable for most teams ;)
Perfect
Can’t do this in my club only
In co op
yeah, it's only for online divisions and efootball mode
How can i use 3 cf in my club?
There are no managers yet with 3cf in MyClub this year.
Lekker bezig pik👍
plz stream , play for a weak team 🥰
Shareing is careing.
5-2-3....🤗