apologies that these aren't the MOST hardcore bands out there. it's just an intro. i'll do a pt 2 with some more harder bands next time!!! Merry Christmas everyone :)
No apology necessary. It’s tricky because genre lines are always blurry. Even more so when trying to identify the start of a new branch. The artists identified as pioneers in any genre almost never intended to create a new genre. All these bands thought of themselves as punk bands because that’s what existed.
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Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat went on to be in the great band called Fugazi. 13 Songs, Repeater, Steady Diet of Nothing, and In On The Kill Taker are Fugazi albums I hope you will consider reacting to.
As someone who was alive in the 80's, I would recommend for early Hardcore Punk. Discharge - Protest and Survive (1982) D.O.A. - Thirteen (1980) The Germs - Lexicon Devil (1979) Agnostic Front - United and Strong (1984) Exploited - I Believe In Anarchy (1981)
I was there,and that scene birthed me into the real political scene that was hardcore punk(early teens)...greatest time to be alive...greatest all ages shows.
Husker Du started out hardcore and morphed into more melodic sophisticated songwriting by this time. For hardcore you'd want to listen to something much earlier off Everythings Falls Apart or maybe Real World from Metal Circus or from Zen Arcade, though they were starting to move away from hardcore by then.
Zen Arcade is to this day one of the most brutal things I've ever heard. We'd play the cassette on road trips, but if you tried to listen to it more than 2 times all the nerves in the back of your head would violently rebel. To think that it was recorded for the most part in one take is mind blowing as a musician that's familiar with what it took to record back then. Their later melodic stuff is absolutely beautiful. The sound of two people who love each other and became so competitive in their songwriting, it destroyed their friendship. 🤘🧙♂🤘
@@erco9167two first Sugar albums are great! Esp ‘Beaster’ which is just incredibly fierce! Absolutely Hard Core intensity! Totally opposite of Copper Blue, which is more of a clean alternative pop album but very good at it 😊
My favorite Husker Du albums are New Day Rising, Flip Your Wig, Candy Apple Grey, and Warehouse: Songs And Stories. Divide And Conquer may be my favorite song. Great video!
Shoutout to your dad for his favorite Husker Du song being a deep cut from Warehouse! Husker Du were all over the place while they were around, a truly distinctive sound.
The attitude the Brains are talking about is PMA positive mental attitude. An idea they picked up from the book "Think and Grow Rich'. It would be hard to overestimate the influence that Bad Brains, Minor Threat and Black Flag had on the bands that came after them.
Bad brains are the backbone of every band that came after them! Literally the most influential band in modern rock and roll! Even a lot of hip hop acts have cited the brains as influence!
DIscharge is essential, since it's the beginning and inspirations to a lot of future genres. There would be no Trash Metal, Black Metal or Crust Punk without them.
Yes! I listed a few in my comment but how did I forget Discharge!? Also I like MDC, Doom, Crass, Conflict. And Napalm Death has elements of hardcore and grind 💥🏴☠️
If you want more dark hardcore songs I would recommend “Richard Hung Himself” by D.I, “Big Mouth” by Gorilla Biscuits (who usually make positive songs, for instance: “things we say”), and “Live Fast, Die Young” by the Circle Jerks.
I’m from NY and I’m in my fifties, so Bad Brains were the best. Close seconds would be Agnostic Front, in particular the Victim in Pain album. Also Cro-Mags were great with Age of Quarrel album. Murphys Law, Warzone, Sheer Terror were all good.
I'm 50 and from Buffalo NY ......took my 18yr old son to his 1st hardcore show 2 weeks ago..... it was Agnostic Front, Murphys Law, and Grade 2.......NY Hardcore never gets old and when Vinny Stigma welcomes your son to hardcore its a memory I'll never forget
Excellent pick of bands! I was gonna mention Hüsker Dü as I initially didn't see it in your title and then saw you already got it covered haha. They were more hardcore in their early days (Land Speed Record, Zen Arcade) and developed a more alternative rock style later on. I guess the line between punk and hc is a blurred one...another band I would highly recommend checking out is Negative Approach. Merry Christmas!
To me hardcore has always been "just punk". I feel like its more a question of the bands attitude to their music and the industry than necessarily a statement about the music.
I'd love to see your reaction to some post-hiatus Descendents. Something like Cool To Be You and Hypercaffium Spazzinate has been my go-to for punk for a good while now, and people are *sleeping* on it!
All of the members of Bad Brains became rastafarians after going to a Bob Marley concert. They played Hardcore and reggae songs but didn't mix the two different genres in individual songs. They were absolutely phenomenal live.
@@jasonsmith666 I saw them supporting UK Subs in Brixton in the early 80s. Felt sorry for the Subs having to follow them on stage. Interesting that you say "jazzy" because Bad Brains did start as a jazz rock fusion band before becoming punk.
They were Rastafarians before they were the bad brains. They used to be a reggae band but a friend of theirs named Sid McRay turned them into the sex pistols. I've hung out with Sid McRay. Cool dude.
Be sure to check out Scandinavian Hardcore, like Rattus, Anti-Cimex, Tarveet Kadet, Riistetyt, Driller Killer, etc ...and British Hardcore like Discharge, Doom, Chaos UK
@@RibeiroGames12 Nah, it's just a different flavor of hardcore. Crust is usually much more metallic, slower and sludgy, it has this crossover appeal. Of all these bands probably only Driller Killer and Doom to a degree can be considered crustcore. But still even, for example Doom is closer to hardcore sound then pure crust, thus crustcore. But nevermind the tags, it's all an of offshoot of original first-wave hardcore, just with regional differences, specific flavors and scenes.
Great picks.Dead Kennedys, D.R.I, GBH or Angry Samoans. Hardcore and Trash are just Punk/Metal crossover. Husker Du's Zen Arcade with The Brids cover 8 miles high.
These bands are the beginning of hardcore. This is the first wave that came after the ramones/pistols/clash/damned explosion. After that bands took “punk” either hardcore or pop
If you want to hear how the genre of grunge was created, check out the second half of Black Flag's album My War. Incredibly influential to all of the Seattle bands with punk roots.
Pay 2 Cum is my favorite Bad Brains song, and is likely their most well know song. The song exists in several versions, and the best one is on their Black Dots album. There is a certain quality to it. that sticks out to me. Fast, and intense, yet calmly in control.
Don't forget D.O.A.! It's was the very first really 'hardcore' hardcore that I heard as a little kid that actually sounded like music to me :) The Enemy is still a timeless melodic punk classic
Saw all the Hardcore in So Cal back in the day. highly recommend you checking out the Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, early Black Flag (Miltown High), Fear, DOA, The Adolescents, JFA, Bad Religion, Minutemen, TSOL, The Stains, (early) The Descendents, Social Distortion, Youth Brigade and definitely The Dickies, who predated the Hardcore movement but went faster and harder before anyone else did. They're humorous so people don't put them into the Hardcore catagory but they ushered it in with The Incredible Shrinking Dickies and Dawn of the Dickies.
The L.A. wit and irony was thick before hardcore. Dickies shows were so fun! Redd Kross, too. I especially like the psychoBilly (?) scene: GunClub, Flesheaters, Tex & the Horseheads, and my most favorite ever - X !!!! Minutemen were another fave. Great memories.
@@scottstine611 of course. I was just excited a few of my favorites from my L.A. days were mentioned ! I agree the Dickies weren’t hardcore. I personally preferred the fun wit of The Dickies, Fear, Circle Jerks. The overall aggression riots/LAPD crap at hardcore shows started getting annoying. Ran for my life too many times . I’m female btw Remember the LA Street Scene?😳 I liked Black Flag secret word-of-mouth downtown loading dock shows, though. Fun times. I’m just here in this comment section cuz I’m curious about the current culture hype around the “hardcore” concept. 🤓😁
Oh man, this brought back memories of when I was in my teens and started getting into punk. Older punks would tell me, "this is hardcore," "this is punk," but for a long time I could not tell the difference! Seems super weird to me now, because the difference is usually quite clear to my ears these days, although some bands do exist right on the line.
Ok, my favorite Hard Core band is from my hometown here in Portland Oregon . Poison Idea. The guitarist said "Hardcore was for the younger kids, the stupider kids. I was a stupider person so I fit right into that" R.I.P Tom Roberts.
Great band. I remember seeing them, Lockjaw and a thrash band Mayhem a bunch in the 80s. If I remember right, Poison Idea swapped members with Mayhem a few times. I heard they lost a few members besides Tom. Thanks for triggering the memories, I had forgotten about them and probably had not thought about them since the early 90s.
Just to try and clear some things up, Hardcore Punk is generally considered "Pure Punk" for lack of a better term. This is where things can get confusing, the term Hardcore can be used to describe Hardcore Punk or Hardcore, there's a blurry distinction which confused me for a while. Hardcore Punk describes more intense aggressive and energetic no nonsense Punk music, whilst the lone term Hardcore can refer to bands that have broken away from more traditional Hardcore Punk and have incorporated more metal influences in there music and the song structures usually involve breakdowns. For an example of the differences compare Bad Brains or Gallows (a much more recent Hardcore Punk band) with bands like Knocked Loose, yes they're a few decades apart but the differences still hold up.
Hardcore never changed. The sound never died, bands like Scowl, Restraining Order, Rotting Out, Cruel Hand, Turnstile etc are still carrying the torch of non-metallic hc. The scene has changed, but overall Knocked Loose is basically a metalcore band in the hardcore scene.
@@snuffcore9686 that is 100 correct Bad Brains hardcore minor Threat Straight edge i don't really care they are both insanely awesome I've seen Bad Brains and FUGAZI
@@snuffcore9686 you are not Wrong the DC scene has been a big part of the back beat to my life since 1984 I'm 54 I've been LUCKY enough to have seen BAD BRAINS AND FUGAZI here in Aotearoa New Zealand and the ROLLINS BAND 👏👏👏
@@snuffcore9686 I've had a brain bleed so i repeat myself constantly very forgetful 5 weeks in a coma so I'm sorry for telling you the same information about BB and FUGAZI. This might sound stupid but at the top of my bucket list is meeting Ian Mackaye shaking his hand and thanking him for a lifetime of Musical Joy and sticking to his moral code
Early Husker Du was more hardcoreish but I wouldn't call them that. Bands like Discharge, Exploited, GBH, Fear, Battalion of Saints, Agnostic Front, New Bomb Turks or the Distillers are more solidly in the hardcore category.
I'm so drawn to reactions to classic hardcore! But I've searched so many, it seems like the only ones I haven't watched are new ones. So I was stoked to see this. Looking fwd to part 2. I recommend OFF!, Dead Kennedys, Poison Idea, MDC, Negative Approach, SSD, Los Crudos, Articles Of Faith, Saccharine Trust, and more from today's 4 bands even though they played other genres 🤘💥🏴☠️
You should check out early Oi! music: i think you’d love the bounce. Cockney Rejects, Cock Sparrer, Angelic Upstarts, Sham 69, Dropkick Murphys for the diluted US version
enjoying the videos :) - some recommend staple/gateway punk bands to add to the gigantic comments list: madball, sick of it all, H2o, Agnostic Front, Terror, Walls of Jericho, Horrorpops, Necromantix, Tiger Army, Leftover Crack, Ramshackle Glory, Against All Authority , AFI, Rancid, Nofx, Bad Religion, DropKick Murphys, Cock Sparrer, Blatz, Crass, Aus Rotten...
Hi Kira. I agree with all the suggestions for Discharge - and for a particular reason; I think you'd find the similarity to Motorhead really interesting. M'head bridged metal and punk, and were pioneers of both genres. Check out Discharge, The Blood Runs Red as an example. For classic Discharge I'd suggest State Violence/ State Control, or Protest and Survive is probably their best known one. Enjoy! And merry Xmas! 😃
I'm Brazilian and I found your channel today. It's really good. I'm watching a lot of videos where you react to albums that I love. Congratulations. one more subscriber :)
my review of Minot Threat Minor Threat. Two 7" EP's recorded in 1981. Later reissued on one LP in 1983. The first hardcore band on our list. Your humble scribe is a BIG hardcore fan. Hardcore was the progression in punk music-faster playing, louder singing, often screaming, more aggressive, more violent, more in your face. No more pogoing to punk, now there was slam dancing and stage diving. At a Teen Idles 1980 gig at The Mabuhay in San Francisco, the band put all the Huntington Beach kids on the guest list with the promoter, Dirk Diirkson, there saying, "I don't want any horizontal dancing." Minor Threat blasted off in Washington D.C. in 1980. Vocalist Ian MacKaye and drummer Jeff Nelson had already been in two bands together, The Slinkees and Teen Idles (D.C.'s first hardcore band.) They recruited bassist Brian Baker and guitarist Lyle Pressler. Brian was 15, Lyle 17, Ian and Jeff 18. They later added Steve Hansgen on bass, moved Baker to second guitar and dropped the 12" 45 RPM, “Out Of Step”. It is superb in every way, and totally mandatory listening for anyone with the slightest interest in punk music. What more can be said about Minor Threat? They have already received just about every accolade. And in my book, they deserve the highest possible praise, on many fronts. First you have a band whose musicianship is beyond reproach and is held in the highest esteem by everyone who loves punk music. They write inspiring songs with some of the most intelligent lyrics ever put to music. Hearing these songs the first time changed many peoples' lives, became a youth rallying cry, and immediately put Minor Threat in the pantheon of hardcore music. One of Ian's most famous songs, "Straight Edge," spawned the whole straight edge movement. " I'm a person just like you/ But I've got better things to do/ Than sit around and fuck my head/ Hang out with the living dead/ Snort white shit up my nose/ Pass out at the shows/ I don't even think about speed/ That is something I just don't need/ I've got straight edge/ I'm a person just like you/ But I've got better things to do/ Than sit around and smoke dope/ Because I know that I can cope/ Laugh at the thought of eating ludes/ Laugh at the thought of sniffing glue/ Always gonna keep in touch/ Never want to use a crutch/ I've got straight edge." There have been all sorts of issues raised about the straight edge lifestyle of no drugs, no booze and even no sex, but MacKaye has repeatedly said he was talking only about himself and certainly was not telling anyone how to run their lives. Then you have MacKaye, founder of Dischord Records, who sold Minor Threat platters very inexpensively so every kid could own them. To keep prices down I believe he actually lost money on one of them. But imagine the joy a kid with very little money had owning such magnificent music. To me that is priceless. Ian had all ages shows where no alcohol was served, and all tickets were $5.00. His anti-business, anti "rock star" attitude is refreshing today where fame and money seem to be everyone's goal. Minor Threat and Stiff Little Fingers are the two most inspirational bands I've ever seen. Seeing them could change one's life, and always for the better. A pinnacle in modern American music. Dig the lyrics to "Filler," the first song we ever heard by them. MacKaye has plenty to get off his chest, is dead serious and froze us in our tracks with his sincerity and intensity. What a beginning for Minor Threat! "What happened to you?/You're not the same/Something in your head made a violent change/ It's in your head 3X /Filler/You call it religion/You're full of shit/Was she really worth it?/She cost you your life/You'll never leave her side/She's gonna be your wife/You call it romance/You're full of shit/Your brain is clay/What's going on?/You picked up a bible and now you're gone/Filler".
Hüsker Dü was never really a pure hardcore band, more of a POST-hardcore band like Dinosaur Jr. or Fugazi. They had some upsped tracks though, especially in their earlier days. Try New Day Rising, I Apologize or Something I Learned Today for a start. I'm sure your daddy will approve. Hüsker Dü to me are one of the most underrated bands today, their influence - not only on the punk and alternative scene, but also on the grunge movement - are huge. Their fabulous songwriting abilities plus the fact that Bob Mould and Grant Hart both had their equal share in singing (both with great voices) brought them the nickname 'the Lennon/McCartney of alternative music" which is not only a huge compliment but also quite fitting. Last but not least I have to second the emotion that you really need to check out Dead Kennedys as well, they're also very much essential when you're talking about hardcore punk. I recommend Holiday in Cambodia (of course), California Über Alles and Police Truck to start with.
I seen bad brains in Tacoma Washington at crescent ballroom. HR flew out on the stage jumping 5 feet in the air looking like a jester with his 3 or 4 huge as dreads!!! Great show!!!
Haven't seen your channel & this caught my eye. 80s HxC song recommends: SS Decontrol-The Kids Will Have Their Say, Minor Threat-Screaming At A Wall, Uniform Choice-My Own Mind, Gorilla Biscuits-Breaking Free, RKL-Think Positive, Dead Kennedys-Kepone Factory. Also you should watch the American Hardcore documentary by Steven Blush about birth of the Hardcore scene.
I just now discovered your channel, and I liked this video. Have always been a Black Flag fan, from long long ago. Thanks, look forward to your next reaction.
Merry Christmas Kira! 🎄🎁❄️🎅 In my opinion. The O.G. hardcore bands were more punk than anything but if you keep exploring all the hardcore bands that came after. You'll find it gets more and more hardcore. Especially with bands like Madball, Terror, Comeback Kid, and Scowl. Especially when they start incorporating breakdowns in the songs. I loved your reaction and I hope you keep exploring hardcore.
It warms my heart to see you listening to Hüsker Dü! I used to frequent the record shop Cheapo in St Paul, MN where two of the members first met, makes me more than a little home sick. You should check out Bob Mould after some more Hüsker Dü. Cheers!
i was at one of the first Bad Brains shows in D.C....Teen Idles opened up for them ... 1979. i got the first 45 rpm Pay to Cum / Sailing On I would say Bad Brains was 90 per cent Hard Core / 10 % reggae when they started ....... also worth checking out is a later song: Re-ignition thanks Alan
Regarding the heavier Hard-core artists, check out Fugazi, NOFX, GG Allin, Suicidal Tendencies and Agnostic Front first.... Then onto the heavier stuff with Biohazard, Sick Of It All, Hatebreed and through to the start of Metalcore... (This then diversifies into genres such as Mathcore with the likes of Botch, Dillinger Escape Plan, Coalesce, Converge etc.)
you should do a Unit on San Francisco Punk as well. It was a very unique period with tons of great forgotten bands like The Sleepers, The Units, Code Of Honor, The Lewd, The Witnesses, Black Athletes, Flipper, Crime, Avengers... I could go on...
Loved this! Such an interesting mix, it really shows the variety of styles within hardcore. Also the result differences geographically, from DC hardcore to Minneapolis hardcore to California! I have to ask… where did you get that amazing Hatful Of Hollow shirt!? The Smiths are my favorite band and I collect their shirts and that one is AWESOME!
If you get the time, you should check out Nardcore which is hardcore which is faster than hardcore imo, check out JFA, Stalag 13 and Dr. Know just to name a few, but in your part 2 of this series, you have got to include Circle Jerks or The Adolescence.
Oh I absolutely LOVE that husker du song. Spent a few hours staring at the horizon while listening to it, meditating the lyrics. It's not really hardcore, but such a great tune. If you really want to hear some prime hc, go to their early discography, specially Land Speed Record. That's the reason they were considered the fastest band on earth at one point.
My suggestion: Bad Brains - I against I Minor Threat - out of step Hüsker Dü - ‘do the bee’ from the Land Speed Record album Black Flag - slip it in Circle Jerks - I just want some skank Germs - what we do is secret Dead Kennedys - well paid scientist Thanks for the video!!!
Just remember what they were recording with at that time,if they recorded with the stuff we have now would have been super amazing but I guess it was a kind of sound with the recording as well, so who knows, sublime was not original, bands like this actually coined reggae punk, and minor threat, bad religion, verbal abuse, black flag, Jerry’s kids, DOA that was all the start and many many more bands! That music was just a little bit faster a little bit harder definitely the first wave that spawned into stuff like the Cro-Mags agnostic front, SOD, DRI,the English stuff wasn’t as heavy in the beginning I mean it was but not like when you listen to the first couple albums of minor threat or black flag. It was just different especially when went to shows in the early 80s the shows were freaking nuts out of control, you could feel the power! But yes, great choices on the band you picked!
That’s a great Husker track. For their first earlier more hardcore stuff that was right between their insanely fast hardcore stuff and their later pop punk and just indescribably cool stuff is the whole EP called Metal Circus. It’s 20 minutes of genius and it covers really hardcore early sound as well as stuff like “Diane” when they revolutionized hardcore and indie rock.
Hey Kira, from the hometown of Hüsker Dü. They were everywhere here in the local punk scene, so yes, they do have more hardcore songs. Your dad has good taste. :) You may run into Bob Mould or the Band Sugar, too, great 90’s alt artists born from Hüsker Dü. For some fun quirky punk, try “Tiny Town” or “Punk Rock Girl” from the Dead Milkmen. For “post-hardcore” punk, try “To Hell with Good Intentions” by Mclusky. Happy Holidays!
Husker Du (along with the Replacements) are among my favorite 80s bands. Though I never really considered Husker Du hardcore probably their most "hardcore" album is Metal Circus.
Minor threat is a straight edge punk band, they're started a movement called straight edge, if you don't know what straight edge is, means no drinking, smoking, and no drugs
I moved to Boston in 1981 and was confronted by Hardcore on late night college radio and in the streets, outside the record stores, music venues and the skater spots in the city. The Boston emphasis was on local home grown hardcore bands and the Boston Crew. "Boston Not LA" put us on the map. One thing people may not understand is that this was a cultural revolution as well as a musical revolution. It was a rejection of the drugs, Moral Majority, Ronald Reagan, Rightwing Politics, Left Wing Politics, war mongering, jocks, preppies and every other shallow, vapid lifestyle Corporate America was selling at the time. What people also don't realize is that main stream corporate radio and the music culture at large hated and I mean hated Hardcore Punk Rock, which made us love and embrace it even more. Our bands destroyed A&R radio and rejected sell out rock bands, the conglomerate rock media in cahoots with the record companies to promote over produced shit from pretty boy bands looking to get famous and take our money. The music reflects that rage.
Bad Brains are a great place to start. Pretty much EVERY hardcore bands in the 80s all would say the Bad Brains were amazing and influential. Washington DC, NYC and Raliegh NC were all hugely influenced by the Bad Brains. I had the luck to see them in 1985.
More great hardcore songs: 1. Wasted Youth: Fuck Authority 2. Bad Religion: Fuck Armageddon, This is Hell 3. Circle Jerks: Live Fast, Die Young 4. Suicidal Tendencies: Institutionalized 5. TSOL: Code Blue 6. Descendents: Suburban Home
tsol - dance with me, descendents - milo goes to college, samhain - november coming fire, melvins - ozma, rkl - rock n roll nightmare, septic death - now that i have the attention, minutemen - double nickels on the dime, wire - pink flag,
You & your dad have great taste in music! I saw Bad Brains live and I saw Husker Du live in 1987! I recommended punk tunes to you several years ago and I would highly recommend you do a deep dive on the British band The Libertines! You and your dad and your subs will love them!
grew up on hardcore. A few recommendations: Melbourne band DEPRESSION (M.X. Warhead, What A Strange World) Melbourne female band G.A.S.H. (Cleo, Cosmo, Woman's Day ; Love Game Bulls**t) British bands like G.B.H. (City Baby Attacked By Rats, Time Bomb), VICE SQUAD (Scarred For Life), BROKEN BONES (Decapitated). Canadian bands D.O.A. (Unknown, The Prisoner), GENETIC CONTOL (Suburban Life, Urban Cowboy), DEATH SENTENCE (In Flames, R.C.M.P.)
hardcore was never intended for a female audience. it was all about masculinity. that's why everyone kicked everyone's ass then fought the cops in the street at hardcore gigs
One day at the gym I felt like listening to Minor Thread and found myself jaming hard "what albums is this?" turns out is was their whole discography. It's about the same lenght as some single albums. Definetly worth it.
apologies that these aren't the MOST hardcore bands out there. it's just an intro. i'll do a pt 2 with some more harder bands next time!!! Merry Christmas everyone :)
Feliz Navidad!
Bad Brains son la mejor.
No apology necessary. It’s tricky because genre lines are always blurry. Even more so when trying to identify the start of a new branch. The artists identified as pioneers in any genre almost never intended to create a new genre. All these bands thought of themselves as punk bands because that’s what existed.
Don't apologise unless you've done something wrong and if you have DON'T tell anyone and you should be sweet as 👍✌️
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Kia Ora hello Cuzzie hay the link above is in my opinion one of the best kiwi punkrock bands Missing Teeth live at Aotearoa New Zealand Punkfest in 2007 it's a very good recording and video the song is called THE PLAUGE
Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat went on to be in the great band called Fugazi. 13 Songs, Repeater, Steady Diet of Nothing, and In On The Kill Taker are Fugazi albums I hope you will consider reacting to.
Repeater?
@@Gekokujo76 Yes, actually called Repeater + 3 Songs, released in 1990
@@innocentbystander1853 I honestly didnt see Repeater on the list. Sorry...Im blind and thought you forgot an important name on the list.
@@Gekokujo76 No worries my friend
Kira reacted to the entirety of 13 songs on Patreon!
As someone who was alive in the 80's, I would recommend for early Hardcore Punk.
Discharge - Protest and Survive (1982)
D.O.A. - Thirteen (1980)
The Germs - Lexicon Devil (1979)
Agnostic Front - United and Strong (1984)
Exploited - I Believe In Anarchy (1981)
Some very different sounds there lol
Also SubHumAns, GBH, Cro-Mags, Agent Orange, et al...
I was there,and that scene birthed me into the real political scene that was hardcore punk(early teens)...greatest time to be alive...greatest all ages shows.
@@frankgrimes7388 Roots.
Agnostic Front ❤
I had the pleasure of seeing Bad Brains, Husker Du , Minor Threat, and Black Flag…the world changed after these bands..
I'm jealous.
I never saw Minor Threat - out in AZ. The other 3 all before 1984
Husker Du started out hardcore and morphed into more melodic sophisticated songwriting by this time. For hardcore you'd want to listen to something much earlier off Everythings Falls Apart or maybe Real World from Metal Circus or from Zen Arcade, though they were starting to move away from hardcore by then.
Zen Arcade is to this day one of the most brutal things I've ever heard. We'd play the cassette on road trips, but if you tried to listen to it more than 2 times all the nerves in the back of your head would violently rebel. To think that it was recorded for the most part in one take is mind blowing as a musician that's familiar with what it took to record back then. Their later melodic stuff is absolutely beautiful. The sound of two people who love each other and became so competitive in their songwriting, it destroyed their friendship.
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I feel in love with them backwards through getting into Sugar, oddly enough
@@erco9167two first Sugar albums are great! Esp ‘Beaster’ which is just incredibly fierce! Absolutely Hard Core intensity! Totally opposite of Copper Blue, which is more of a clean alternative pop album but very good at it 😊
@@erco9167 I'm even more backwards, first listened to solo Bob Mould
My favorite Husker Du albums are New Day Rising, Flip Your Wig, Candy Apple Grey, and Warehouse: Songs And Stories. Divide And Conquer may be my favorite song. Great video!
Bad Brains IS hardcore. I highly highly recommend watching the 1982 CBGBs show on YT. They were the best live band of all time.
Shoutout to your dad for his favorite Husker Du song being a deep cut from Warehouse! Husker Du were all over the place while they were around, a truly distinctive sound.
"Boiling Point" by SSD is essential Hardcore.
The attitude the Brains are talking about is PMA positive mental attitude. An idea they picked up from the book "Think and Grow Rich'. It would be hard to overestimate the influence that Bad Brains, Minor Threat and Black Flag had on the bands that came after them.
You've got to listen to I against I by Bad Brains. It's one of the best Hardcore songs ever, and you already own it 😂. Great vid.
Bad brains are the backbone of every band that came after them! Literally the most influential band in modern rock and roll! Even a lot of hip hop acts have cited the brains as influence!
Beastie boys loved bad brains
You are correct
The greatest collection of 4 Hardcore bands where not ONE of their Hardcore songs are played!
I love Rise Above especially by Black Flag, but the whole Damaged album is great.
Dead Kennedys and Discharge are 2 other essential hardcore bands.
DIscharge is essential, since it's the beginning and inspirations to a lot of future genres. There would be no Trash Metal, Black Metal or Crust Punk without them.
Omfg yes!
Yes! I listed a few in my comment but how did I forget Discharge!? Also I like MDC, Doom, Crass, Conflict. And Napalm Death has elements of hardcore and grind 💥🏴☠️
I think Damaged is the best Punk album.
DKs are tricky because so much of their better known stuff is straight surf rock or satirically poppy stuff, but yes, Kira, do it
If you want more dark hardcore songs I would recommend “Richard Hung Himself” by D.I, “Big Mouth” by Gorilla Biscuits (who usually make positive songs, for instance: “things we say”), and “Live Fast, Die Young” by the Circle Jerks.
I’m from NY and I’m in my fifties, so Bad Brains were the best. Close seconds would be Agnostic Front, in particular the Victim in Pain album. Also Cro-Mags were great with Age of Quarrel album. Murphys Law, Warzone, Sheer Terror were all good.
I'm 50 and from Buffalo NY ......took my 18yr old son to his 1st hardcore show 2 weeks ago..... it was Agnostic Front, Murphys Law, and Grade 2.......NY Hardcore never gets old and when Vinny Stigma welcomes your son to hardcore its a memory I'll never forget
Right! This dude was definitely there. NYHC
Warzone, Youth of Today and even Shelter can have sick songs :) NYHC!
All great bands. Sick of it All & Killing Time have some good shite too.
@@davidsonner6488 Just saw the same show in VA! I'm 45 grew up in punk and HC!!! vaXhc
You should check out Negative Approach, Void, MDC, DRI and the album, Everything Falls Apart by Husker du which is more of a Hardcore album.
Excellent pick of bands! I was gonna mention Hüsker Dü as I initially didn't see it in your title and then saw you already got it covered haha. They were more hardcore in their early days (Land Speed Record, Zen Arcade) and developed a more alternative rock style later on. I guess the line between punk and hc is a blurred one...another band I would highly recommend checking out is Negative Approach. Merry Christmas!
To me hardcore has always been "just punk". I feel like its more a question of the bands attitude to their music and the industry than necessarily a statement about the music.
Punch Drunk is an incredible hardcore song by Husker Du.
I'd love to see your reaction to some post-hiatus Descendents. Something like Cool To Be You and Hypercaffium Spazzinate has been my go-to for punk for a good while now, and people are *sleeping* on it!
Circle Jerks would be a good addition.
All of the members of Bad Brains became rastafarians after going to a Bob Marley concert. They played Hardcore and reggae songs but didn't mix the two different genres in individual songs. They were absolutely phenomenal live.
Saw them only twice. We weren't spoilt with visits in the UK. Tight, fast and musical, almost jazzy?
True, they never mixed styles, you went to a BB gig
and didn't know if they were gonna Punk or Dub it.
@@jasonsmith666 I saw them supporting UK Subs in Brixton in the early 80s. Felt sorry for the Subs having to follow them on stage. Interesting that you say "jazzy" because Bad Brains did start as a jazz rock fusion band before becoming punk.
If you know the song I against I I don't see how you could say that.
They were Rastafarians before they were the bad brains. They used to be a reggae band but a friend of theirs named Sid McRay turned them into the sex pistols. I've hung out with Sid McRay. Cool dude.
Be sure to check out Scandinavian Hardcore, like Rattus, Anti-Cimex, Tarveet Kadet, Riistetyt, Driller Killer, etc ...and British Hardcore like Discharge, Doom, Chaos UK
most of em are crust
@@RibeiroGames12 Nah, it's just a different flavor of hardcore. Crust is usually much more metallic, slower and sludgy, it has this crossover appeal. Of all these bands probably only Driller Killer and Doom to a degree can be considered crustcore. But still even, for example Doom is closer to hardcore sound then pure crust, thus crustcore. But nevermind the tags, it's all an of offshoot of original first-wave hardcore, just with regional differences, specific flavors and scenes.
Great picks.Dead Kennedys, D.R.I, GBH or Angry Samoans. Hardcore and Trash are just Punk/Metal crossover. Husker Du's Zen Arcade with The Brids cover 8 miles high.
These bands are the beginning of hardcore. This is the first wave that came after the ramones/pistols/clash/damned explosion. After that bands took “punk” either hardcore or pop
If you want to hear how the genre of grunge was created, check out the second half of Black Flag's album My War. Incredibly influential to all of the Seattle bands with punk roots.
correct. everyone in LA hated it but everyone in the PNW loved it.
My War also influenced sludge metal as much as it did grunge. Very cool album
Not even close!!...Grunge and all of that just stole the ideas of what hardcore was...never influenced just escaped.
Pay 2 Cum is my favorite Bad Brains song, and is likely their most well know song. The song exists in several versions, and the best one is on their Black Dots album. There is a certain quality to it. that sticks out to me. Fast, and intense, yet calmly in control.
Don't forget D.O.A.! It's was the very first really 'hardcore' hardcore that I heard as a little kid that actually sounded like music to me :) The Enemy is still a timeless melodic punk classic
And "The Prisoner", absolutely demented!
Saw all the Hardcore in So Cal back in the day. highly recommend you checking out the Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, early Black Flag (Miltown High), Fear, DOA, The Adolescents, JFA, Bad Religion, Minutemen, TSOL, The Stains, (early) The Descendents, Social Distortion, Youth Brigade and definitely The Dickies, who predated the Hardcore movement but went faster and harder before anyone else did. They're humorous so people don't put them into the Hardcore catagory but they ushered it in with The Incredible Shrinking Dickies and Dawn of the Dickies.
The L.A. wit and irony was thick before hardcore.
Dickies shows were so fun! Redd Kross, too.
I especially like the psychoBilly (?) scene: GunClub, Flesheaters, Tex & the Horseheads, and my most favorite ever - X !!!!
Minutemen were another fave. Great memories.
@@scottstine611 of course. I was just excited a few of my favorites from my L.A. days were mentioned !
I agree the Dickies weren’t hardcore. I personally preferred the fun wit of The Dickies, Fear, Circle Jerks. The overall aggression riots/LAPD crap at hardcore shows started getting annoying. Ran for my life too many times . I’m female btw
Remember the LA Street Scene?😳 I liked Black Flag secret word-of-mouth downtown loading dock shows, though.
Fun times.
I’m just here in this comment section cuz I’m curious about the current culture hype around the “hardcore” concept. 🤓😁
Oh man, this brought back memories of when I was in my teens and started getting into punk. Older punks would tell me, "this is hardcore," "this is punk," but for a long time I could not tell the difference! Seems super weird to me now, because the difference is usually quite clear to my ears these days, although some bands do exist right on the line.
Ok, my favorite Hard Core band is from my hometown here in Portland Oregon . Poison Idea. The guitarist said "Hardcore was for the younger kids, the stupider kids. I was a stupider person so I fit right into that"
R.I.P Tom Roberts.
Great band. I remember seeing them, Lockjaw and a thrash band Mayhem a bunch in the 80s. If I remember right, Poison Idea swapped members with Mayhem a few times. I heard they lost a few members besides Tom. Thanks for triggering the memories, I had forgotten about them and probably had not thought about them since the early 90s.
Hell yeah hardcore punk will never die! All these bands are fucking awesome
Fair start. Might try some west coast flavor next. Totally different beast. I recommend Adolescents, TSOL, CH3, Circle Jerks, and D.I.
These are some of the founding bands that create this style.
Just to try and clear some things up, Hardcore Punk is generally considered "Pure Punk" for lack of a better term. This is where things can get confusing, the term Hardcore can be used to describe Hardcore Punk or Hardcore, there's a blurry distinction which confused me for a while. Hardcore Punk describes more intense aggressive and energetic no nonsense Punk music, whilst the lone term Hardcore can refer to bands that have broken away from more traditional Hardcore Punk and have incorporated more metal influences in there music and the song structures usually involve breakdowns. For an example of the differences compare Bad Brains or Gallows (a much more recent Hardcore Punk band) with bands like Knocked Loose, yes they're a few decades apart but the differences still hold up.
Hardcore never changed. The sound never died, bands like Scowl, Restraining Order, Rotting Out, Cruel Hand, Turnstile etc are still carrying the torch of non-metallic hc. The scene has changed, but overall Knocked Loose is basically a metalcore band in the hardcore scene.
Minor Threat were just teenagers when they changed PUNKROCK for ever
And who influenced them? Bad Brains.
@@snuffcore9686 that is 100 correct Bad Brains hardcore minor Threat Straight edge i don't really care they are both insanely awesome I've seen Bad Brains and FUGAZI
@@heathcornbeef I'm old (60) and grew up in D.C. I've been going to shows since 1981. So, yeah, I get it. 😁
@@snuffcore9686 you are not Wrong the DC scene has been a big part of the back beat to my life since 1984 I'm 54 I've been LUCKY enough to have seen BAD BRAINS AND FUGAZI here in Aotearoa New Zealand and the ROLLINS BAND 👏👏👏
@@snuffcore9686 I've had a brain bleed so i repeat myself constantly very forgetful 5 weeks in a coma so I'm sorry for telling you the same information about BB and FUGAZI. This might sound stupid but at the top of my bucket list is meeting Ian Mackaye shaking his hand and thanking him for a lifetime of Musical Joy and sticking to his moral code
Bad Brains still so damn good
Early Husker Du was more hardcoreish but I wouldn't call them that. Bands like Discharge, Exploited, GBH, Fear, Battalion of Saints, Agnostic Front, New Bomb Turks or the Distillers are more solidly in the hardcore category.
Have you heard land speed record? Definitely hardcore
@@kryptichands968 I take it nobody can read.
Love you and song's you've been listening to!! Greetings from Brazil!
Great pick by Dad! Love the melody on that one.
For hardcore, I would have picked New Day Rising for Hüsker Dü. They did do other alt genres. That one had more of a college rock tone. Still great.
This would have been another good choice, or one of the others from Zen Arcade. th-cam.com/video/EQfrHkjvx6g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ACo_ohiyPpp1FJST
My fav Husker Du
New Day Rising is in my Top five albums ever no contest it's my youth on 12 inches of vinyl
Your dad has given you a great musical start me thinks 😊
Try six pack BLACK FLAG
Terror, hatebreed, malevolence, vale tudo would be great to see you listen to them. Have a great Christmas
I'm so drawn to reactions to classic hardcore! But I've searched so many, it seems like the only ones I haven't watched are new ones. So I was stoked to see this. Looking fwd to part 2. I recommend OFF!, Dead Kennedys, Poison Idea, MDC, Negative Approach, SSD, Los Crudos, Articles Of Faith, Saccharine Trust, and more from today's 4 bands even though they played other genres 🤘💥🏴☠️
Saccharine Trust is hardcore?
Negative approach!!!!
Hello my dear, I'm from Brazil and I love your reactions!! I love punk rock
100% you should listen to more Hüsker Dü, you'll be amazed!
bad brains - "sacred love", husker du - "what do i want?", minor threat - "stepping stone". black flag - "padded cell"...
You should check out early Oi! music: i think you’d love the bounce. Cockney Rejects, Cock Sparrer, Angelic Upstarts, Sham 69, Dropkick Murphys for the diluted US version
enjoying the videos :) - some recommend staple/gateway punk bands to add to the gigantic comments list: madball, sick of it all, H2o, Agnostic Front, Terror, Walls of Jericho, Horrorpops, Necromantix, Tiger Army, Leftover Crack, Ramshackle Glory, Against All Authority , AFI, Rancid, Nofx, Bad Religion, DropKick Murphys, Cock Sparrer, Blatz, Crass, Aus Rotten...
Cool shirt, can’t wait for my daughters to go through my records.
Hi Kira. I agree with all the suggestions for Discharge - and for a particular reason; I think you'd find the similarity to Motorhead really interesting. M'head bridged metal and punk, and were pioneers of both genres. Check out Discharge, The Blood Runs Red as an example. For classic Discharge I'd suggest State Violence/ State Control, or Protest and Survive is probably their best known one. Enjoy! And merry Xmas! 😃
The Beastie Boys were a hardcore punk band before they were rappers. Check out their Polly Wog Stew album. Also, check out the Minutemen...
I'm Brazilian and I found your channel today. It's really good. I'm watching a lot of videos where you react to albums that I love. Congratulations. one more subscriber :)
my review of Minot Threat
Minor Threat. Two 7" EP's recorded in 1981. Later reissued on one LP in 1983.
The first hardcore band on our list. Your humble scribe is a BIG hardcore fan. Hardcore was the progression in punk music-faster playing, louder singing, often screaming, more aggressive, more violent, more in your face. No more pogoing to punk, now there was slam dancing and stage diving. At a Teen Idles 1980 gig at The Mabuhay in San Francisco, the band put all the Huntington Beach kids on the guest list with the promoter, Dirk Diirkson, there saying, "I don't want any horizontal dancing."
Minor Threat blasted off in Washington D.C. in 1980. Vocalist Ian MacKaye and drummer Jeff Nelson had already been in two bands together, The Slinkees and Teen Idles (D.C.'s first hardcore band.) They recruited bassist Brian Baker and guitarist Lyle Pressler. Brian was 15, Lyle 17, Ian and Jeff 18. They later added Steve Hansgen on bass, moved Baker to second guitar and dropped the 12" 45 RPM, “Out Of Step”. It is superb in every way, and totally mandatory listening for anyone with the slightest interest in punk music.
What more can be said about Minor Threat? They have already received just about every accolade. And in my book, they deserve the highest possible praise, on many fronts. First you have a band whose musicianship is beyond reproach and is held in the highest esteem by everyone who loves punk music. They write inspiring songs with some of the most intelligent lyrics ever put to music. Hearing these songs the first time changed many peoples' lives, became a youth rallying cry, and immediately put Minor Threat in the pantheon of hardcore music. One of Ian's most famous songs, "Straight Edge," spawned the whole straight edge movement. " I'm a person just like you/ But I've got better things to do/ Than sit around and fuck my head/ Hang out with the living dead/ Snort white shit up my nose/ Pass out at the shows/ I don't even think about speed/ That is something I just don't need/ I've got straight edge/ I'm a person just like you/ But I've got better things to do/ Than sit around and smoke dope/ Because I know that I can cope/ Laugh at the thought of eating ludes/ Laugh at the thought of sniffing glue/ Always gonna keep in touch/ Never want to use a crutch/ I've got straight edge." There have been all sorts of issues raised about the straight edge lifestyle of no drugs, no booze and even no sex, but MacKaye has repeatedly said he was talking only about himself and certainly was not telling anyone how to run their lives.
Then you have MacKaye, founder of Dischord Records, who sold Minor Threat platters very inexpensively so every kid could own them. To keep prices down I believe he actually lost money on one of them. But imagine the joy a kid with very little money had owning such magnificent music. To me that is priceless. Ian had all ages shows where no alcohol was served, and all tickets were $5.00. His anti-business, anti "rock star" attitude is refreshing today where fame and money seem to be everyone's goal.
Minor Threat and Stiff Little Fingers are the two most inspirational bands I've ever seen. Seeing them could change one's life, and always for the better. A pinnacle in modern American music.
Dig the lyrics to "Filler," the first song we ever heard by them. MacKaye has plenty to get off his chest, is dead serious and froze us in our tracks with his sincerity and intensity. What a beginning for Minor Threat! "What happened to you?/You're not the same/Something in your head made a violent change/ It's in your head 3X /Filler/You call it religion/You're full of shit/Was she really worth it?/She cost you your life/You'll never leave her side/She's gonna be your wife/You call it romance/You're full of shit/Your brain is clay/What's going on?/You picked up a bible and now you're gone/Filler".
Circle Takes The Square and Underling
Bad Brains are quite literally the best hardcore songs of all time
Kira, those are great bands to start out with!
Bad Brains, Black Flag.. MT.. The trifecta of Hardcore.. )^_-)/ Greetings from New Jersey!
Hüsker Dü was never really a pure hardcore band, more of a POST-hardcore band like Dinosaur Jr. or Fugazi. They had some upsped tracks though, especially in their earlier days. Try New Day Rising, I Apologize or Something I Learned Today for a start. I'm sure your daddy will approve.
Hüsker Dü to me are one of the most underrated bands today, their influence - not only on the punk and alternative scene, but also on the grunge movement - are huge. Their fabulous songwriting abilities plus the fact that Bob Mould and Grant Hart both had their equal share in singing (both with great voices) brought them the nickname 'the Lennon/McCartney of alternative music" which is not only a huge compliment but also quite fitting.
Last but not least I have to second the emotion that you really need to check out Dead Kennedys as well, they're also very much essential when you're talking about hardcore punk. I recommend Holiday in Cambodia (of course), California Über Alles and Police Truck to start with.
Land Speed Record is absolutely a pure hardcore album.
I seen bad brains in Tacoma Washington at crescent ballroom. HR flew out on the stage jumping 5 feet in the air looking like a jester with his 3 or 4 huge as dreads!!! Great show!!!
In late 80's
i may have seen you in a fishing video. great that your going down the punk rabbit hole. so much good stuff...love your channel!!
Haven't seen your channel & this caught my eye. 80s HxC song recommends: SS Decontrol-The Kids Will Have Their Say, Minor Threat-Screaming At A Wall, Uniform Choice-My Own Mind, Gorilla Biscuits-Breaking Free, RKL-Think Positive, Dead Kennedys-Kepone Factory. Also you should watch the American Hardcore documentary by Steven Blush about birth of the Hardcore scene.
Saw Minor Threat in Dallas, TX in 85…fucking badass show!!
I just now discovered your channel, and I liked this video. Have always been a Black Flag fan, from long long ago. Thanks, look forward to your next reaction.
Merry Christmas Kira! 🎄🎁❄️🎅 In my opinion. The O.G. hardcore bands were more punk than anything but if you keep exploring all the hardcore bands that came after. You'll find it gets more and more hardcore. Especially with bands like Madball, Terror, Comeback Kid, and Scowl. Especially when they start incorporating breakdowns in the songs. I loved your reaction and I hope you keep exploring hardcore.
Terror and Madball are basically crossover thrash or metalcore. Scowl is dope and comeback kid is just NOFX part 2
These bands suck ass
MDC, 7-Seconds, idk but great bands back in the day!
It warms my heart to see you listening to Hüsker Dü! I used to frequent the record shop Cheapo in St Paul, MN where two of the members first met, makes me more than a little home sick. You should check out Bob Mould after some more Hüsker Dü. Cheers!
Love the shirt and your enthusiasm toward hardcore! Enjoy😊
My favourite reggae song ever is I AND I SURVIVE Bad Brains
i was at one of the first Bad Brains shows in D.C....Teen Idles opened up for them ... 1979. i got the first 45 rpm Pay to Cum / Sailing On I would say Bad Brains was 90 per cent Hard Core / 10 % reggae when they started ....... also worth checking out is a later song: Re-ignition thanks Alan
Regarding the heavier Hard-core artists, check out Fugazi, NOFX, GG Allin, Suicidal Tendencies and Agnostic Front first....
Then onto the heavier stuff with Biohazard, Sick Of It All, Hatebreed and through to the start of Metalcore...
(This then diversifies into genres such as Mathcore with the likes of Botch, Dillinger Escape Plan, Coalesce, Converge etc.)
Your dad seems like someone I would like to have over for dinner and talk music lol
you should do a Unit on San Francisco Punk as well. It was a very unique period with tons of great forgotten bands like The Sleepers, The Units, Code Of Honor, The Lewd, The Witnesses, Black Athletes, Flipper, Crime, Avengers... I could go on...
This IS the bedrock of hardcore. No need for apologies, you got it right.
Loved this! Such an interesting mix, it really shows the variety of styles within hardcore. Also the result differences geographically, from DC hardcore to Minneapolis hardcore to California! I have to ask… where did you get that amazing Hatful Of Hollow shirt!? The Smiths are my favorite band and I collect their shirts and that one is AWESOME!
If you get the time, you should check out Nardcore which is hardcore which is faster than hardcore imo, check out JFA, Stalag 13 and Dr. Know just to name a few, but in your part 2 of this series, you have got to include Circle Jerks or The Adolescence.
Oh I absolutely LOVE that husker du song. Spent a few hours staring at the horizon while listening to it, meditating the lyrics. It's not really hardcore, but such a great tune. If you really want to hear some prime hc, go to their early discography, specially Land Speed Record. That's the reason they were considered the fastest band on earth at one point.
My suggestion:
Bad Brains - I against I
Minor Threat - out of step
Hüsker Dü - ‘do the bee’ from the Land Speed Record album
Black Flag - slip it in
Circle Jerks - I just want some skank
Germs - what we do is secret
Dead Kennedys - well paid scientist
Thanks for the video!!!
Just remember what they were recording with at that time,if they recorded with the stuff we have now would have been super amazing but I guess it was a kind of sound with the recording as well, so who knows, sublime was not original, bands like this actually coined reggae punk, and minor threat, bad religion, verbal abuse, black flag, Jerry’s kids, DOA that was all the start and many many more bands! That music was just a little bit faster a little bit harder definitely the first wave that spawned into stuff like the Cro-Mags agnostic front, SOD, DRI,the English stuff wasn’t as heavy in the beginning I mean it was but not like when you listen to the first couple albums of minor threat or black flag. It was just different especially when went to shows in the early 80s the shows were freaking nuts out of control, you could feel the power! But yes, great choices on the band you picked!
That’s a great Husker track. For their first earlier more hardcore stuff that was right between their insanely fast hardcore stuff and their later pop punk and just indescribably cool stuff is the whole EP called Metal Circus. It’s 20 minutes of genius and it covers really hardcore early sound as well as stuff like “Diane” when they revolutionized hardcore and indie rock.
Hey Kira, from the hometown of Hüsker Dü. They were everywhere here in the local punk scene, so yes, they do have more hardcore songs. Your dad has good taste. :) You may run into Bob Mould or the Band Sugar, too, great 90’s alt artists born from Hüsker Dü. For some fun quirky punk, try “Tiny Town” or “Punk Rock Girl” from the Dead Milkmen. For “post-hardcore” punk, try “To Hell with Good Intentions” by Mclusky. Happy Holidays!
You’re from Huskerburg?
Bad Brains - I and I Survive 👍
Hüsker Du, black flag, what a treat! Babe, you should listen to Sugar, Copper Blue. That album saved my life
Both Husker Du and Minor threat helped kick off post hardcore, that’s why they sound so different
For more heavy but upbeat hardcore, check out No Redeeming Social Value from Queens ("Olde E") NY and Blood For Blood ("Livin in Exile") from Boston.
Many hardcore bands morphed into other sounds and forms of music. Minor Threat's DNA turned into Fugazi, Husker Du turned into more melodic rock, etc.
Husker Du (along with the Replacements) are among my favorite 80s bands. Though I never really considered Husker Du hardcore probably their most "hardcore" album is Metal Circus.
Minor threat is a straight edge punk band, they're started a movement called straight edge, if you don't know what straight edge is, means no drinking, smoking, and no drugs
The Husker song is a good one. These Important Years is another!
Das Psych-oh! Rangers - The Essential Art Of Communication good punk song~ happy christmas K..
Like dropped for your channel / algorithm. Have a great Xmas, Missy. 😊
I moved to Boston in 1981 and was confronted by Hardcore on late night college radio and in the streets, outside the record stores, music venues and the skater spots in the city. The Boston emphasis was on local home grown hardcore bands and the Boston Crew. "Boston Not LA" put us on the map.
One thing people may not understand is that this was a cultural revolution as well as a musical revolution. It was a rejection of the drugs, Moral Majority, Ronald Reagan, Rightwing Politics, Left Wing Politics, war mongering, jocks, preppies and every other shallow, vapid lifestyle Corporate America was selling at the time.
What people also don't realize is that main stream corporate radio and the music culture at large hated and I mean hated Hardcore Punk Rock, which made us love and embrace it even more. Our bands destroyed A&R radio and rejected sell out rock bands, the conglomerate rock media in cahoots with the record companies to promote over produced shit from pretty boy bands looking to get famous and take our money. The music reflects that rage.
The Minor Threat and Hüsker Dü songs are far from the best examples of hardcore songs by those bands.
Bad Brains are a great place to start. Pretty much EVERY hardcore bands in the 80s all would say the Bad Brains were amazing and influential. Washington DC, NYC and Raliegh NC were all hugely influenced by the Bad Brains. I had the luck to see them in 1985.
More great hardcore songs:
1. Wasted Youth: Fuck Authority
2. Bad Religion: Fuck Armageddon, This is Hell
3. Circle Jerks: Live Fast, Die Young
4. Suicidal Tendencies: Institutionalized
5. TSOL: Code Blue
6. Descendents: Suburban Home
tsol - dance with me, descendents - milo goes to college, samhain - november coming fire, melvins - ozma, rkl - rock n roll nightmare, septic death - now that i have the attention, minutemen - double nickels on the dime, wire - pink flag,
You & your dad have great taste in music! I saw Bad Brains live and I saw Husker Du live in 1987! I recommended punk tunes to you several years ago and I would highly recommend you do a deep dive on the British band The Libertines! You and your dad and your subs will love them!
Going to see Black Flag on Jan 6 in Santa Cruz, Ca. I'm 55 and can be found in the pit.
Conflict,GBH,Anti- nowhere league.
grew up on hardcore. A few recommendations:
Melbourne band DEPRESSION (M.X. Warhead, What A Strange World)
Melbourne female band G.A.S.H. (Cleo, Cosmo, Woman's Day ; Love Game Bulls**t)
British bands like G.B.H. (City Baby Attacked By Rats, Time Bomb), VICE SQUAD (Scarred For Life), BROKEN BONES (Decapitated).
Canadian bands D.O.A. (Unknown, The Prisoner), GENETIC CONTOL (Suburban Life, Urban Cowboy), DEATH SENTENCE (In Flames, R.C.M.P.)
hardcore was never intended for a female audience. it was all about masculinity. that's why everyone kicked everyone's ass then fought the cops in the street at hardcore gigs
One day at the gym I felt like listening to Minor Thread and found myself jaming hard "what albums is this?" turns out is was their whole discography. It's about the same lenght as some single albums. Definetly worth it.