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"This would be easy if it wasn't so hard."
Wise words Ray. Wise.
"This would be easy if it wasn't so hard." sounds like a shirt logo 😁😁
Sounds like a Yogi Berra expression.
I usually take the bolts out of the box, leaving the back two bolts in but loose then tilt the box up and remove the pump from the tank. The box bolts are usually coated and ment to be removed for body work. For what it’s worth. Another good video Ray.
Reminds me of Larry the cable guy saying one time how him and Brad Pitt looked just alike ..only totally different lol.
T shirt!
Generally the pump itself is removable from the cage assembly, Walbro and other manufacturers make pumps that are fairly easy to swap in
Have done that many times. Much cheaper to.
Yes, and those are good for DIY'ing. However, at a shop, where you're warrantying the work, you always replace the entire unit. If any other part fails in the next year or so, like the fuel level sender, you're doing your job twice.
I just replace the entire assembly now adays. The vehicle is usually 5-10 years old when they fail, plastic degrades and cracks over time in the rust belt. That leads to Evap code potentials.
Dodge is notorious for making the fuel pump not come out of the assembly
If I were the customer and I was told my vehicle would be out of commission for a month because the pump assembly was on backorder but it could be fixed today if I were willing to accept just replacing the pump motor but it would be gambling on something else in the pump assembly failing at a later date I would definitely have Ray just swap the motor... There's no absolute guarantee that a whole assembly would not fail. The original motor only lasted 3 years, and should have been warrantied from the dealer anyway.
Three year old truck. Super clean, no harsh environment, doesnt look abused. Staggering that its already a no start.
If I was the owner, that truck would be parked in the dealers owners living rom until fixed. Unbelievable.
Great vid as always Mr Rain,
Stay gold.
Since you have a lift, the easiest way to access and replace the fuel tank pump module is to unbolt the bed and tilt it up enough to get to the top of the fuel tank. I have done several fuel pump replacements on pickups using this method and it is much easier and faster than dropping the whole fuel tank out.
Ray does things with one hand that takes me two hands, a helper, and a dozen tools.
and I'd fail at it ... hate changing fuel pumps, did on my old 350 chevy truck took me a couple of days each time
Just putting a nut and washer on a bolt with one hand with out seeing it I have the up mst respect for this man lol 😅🤣
I used to take the chicks bra off one hand and make it disappear with the other.
@@michaelsimmons6138 If you do it all the time it becomes easier .(most of the time).
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Ray, don't rip that guy off by selling him a fuel pump. It just needs a base drum pedal installed to hit the tank. 😂
Love the new intro too!
Install a horn blasters conductor special nightmare editionn spare tire delete kit. Vibrate the hell out of that pump.. and you get a near train horn sounding air horn under the truck :)
I always love to see the good old hammer diagnostics working like a charm.
Oh Norman P... You ARE entertaining me! I am now and forever part of you. . .
. . . FOREVER !!!!
I feel bad for the owners and businesses plagued with this problem. It's bad enough that the pump failed but not being able to replace it promptly sucks for both the repair shop and the owner.
I have a Volvo and they made it so you have to take the whole tank off to get the pump out.
I had a spare parts PT Cruiser that I decided to put a new fuel pump in and get it running. These cars are so low, that a jack is hard to get under. I had to put it up on a set of jack stands to get under it and could only lower it enough to squeeze my hands in and get the parts removed and reinstalled. Boy oh boy, I really wished I had a lift for that one. It turned out to be a waste of money and didn't fix the problem, despite pressure coming back. In the end the junk man got the car.
@@ag1el580 simple fix for that. A BMW E30 or E36 1990's fuel pump assembly bracket, new filter and pump plus rubber mounts, easy to fit and wire with relays when those plastic pumps fall apart😅🤣. On the Mbenz from late 90's you can also fit double pumper if you need higher pressures.
That and the pumps only last 50+k miles. My starter went out and exhaust fell off on my 2017 didge at 80k miles. Things are designed to breakdown quick (bankrupt us) these days. Could probably find a 1970 Chevy truck with 500k miles worked hard still having the original stock starter fuel pump and wheel bearing in working condition.
Could always check the salvage yard if money is tight, the cheaper used stock one might last just as long as a super expensive pump that you need to wait for.
I remember the older Gm vehicles the only fuel pumps that would last were Delphi pumps. Toyotas they have an access to the fuel pump through the car floor
You can use the MIN/MAX button on your fluke meter to store the last highest and lowest voltage read since the last reset
Yep you beat me too it.... or peak is easier..
You seem in a much better place emotionally since your premature “move”. I hope it brings you the same positive outcome financially! Happy New Year
Ray, your channel has always been more "real" than any reality show! I get so invested in your struggles and enthusiasm, that just watching you battle with "engineered stupidity", I am exhausted!
Like bobbing and weaving while watching boxing, tensing and flexing during an NHL Slapshot, tucking a shoulder while a running back digs into a defense... I am with you on every cross-threaded nut, rotted hose, and unreachable connector; -
I need to take a nap.
please never stop adding the x-files theme when little one pops into frame 😂 happy new year to you and the family, can't wait to watch every upload in 2023!
Totally agree 🤣🤣
It's hilarious! 😂
"This would be a lot easier if it wasn't so hard" That should be a t-shirt.
Ray, I always love the electrical troubleshooting videos. It brings me back to the time when I was test flying Hueys and doing much the same thing with my trusty $12.95 government multimeter. Our electrical diagrams were a tad more complex and we had a few extra types (28VDC, 28VAC, 115Vac 400hz) of electrons flowing, but the basic principles were the same - fault isolation. Keep up the good work and continued success for your business in 2023.
Hey, I just love the UFO sound when his daughter passed by. Thanks Rainman, we are learning so much about fixing vehicles because you.
I noticed that in a past video. maybe two or three days ago. I hope it keeps it going for a while.
X-Files theme
I can’t stop laughing when he does it. 😂
X-Files Theme: The Truth Is Out There.
"drove in, pushed Out" or as we in Bavaria say "eine gfahrn, aussa gschom" or "reingefahren rausgeschoben"
The Part avalibility is a Major Problem, especially on newer models. Greetings from Bavaria and Happy new year :)
OMG. It's like we're now a third world country - no parts, no one wants to work, prices are going nuts. EVERYTHING is crazy. The X-files theme music is right on. You're the best, man. Keep your spirits up.
It's not that people don't want to work they don't want to work for shitty no paying employer's can't really blame them
@@tomstarcevich1147 prices going to the moon paychecks staying in the dump. notice the shortages are all in the lower paying jobs? robots havent replaced fast food soon enough apparently
@@tomstarcevich1147 Walmarts near me had signs in the entrance begging people to start for $16.50 an hour for stockers, & $14.50 for cashiers. That's good money here. People get hungry enough, they'll work.
@@tomstarcevich1147then get valuable skills.
Thanks for so clearly showing the struggle with plastic clips. I always felt I must be doing it wrong, it can't be that difficult.
I HATE those plastic clips!!!!
Oh ho ho. It is a struggle. Unless they just shatter from a couple of decades of heat. The plastic clips that retain the oil cooler lines on an older chevy get me
I appreciate the fact that Ray cares and takes all cautions on car lift which most mechanics dont do that religiously.
Yup. Had a friend killed when a car slid off the lift and got him. Just takes an extra second for a bit of safety.
quite a few farm and ranch' do it yourselfers' have removed the bed of their trucks and have made an access panel directly over the fuel tank sending unit and made it so nice to access for future maintenance. Also they have done so many other access mods to them. Quite ingenious! These are work trucks that they do most of the maintenance themselves and its really neat to see them use these access 'panels' and quickly fix the problem. Also, being ranch, or farm trucks they get rid of so much of the not needed 'stuff' and it is really amazing. I know street-legal trucks can't do most of this but the fuel tank access panel is definitely something to look into.
My Land Rover Freelander came with a panel like that under the rear seat squab. Fuel pumps run all the time and are common failures in the 50-150,000 mile bracket. Designers should make it easier to get to them.
Being a farmer, I’ve changed many in tank fuel pumps!
Removing the need is a ton of work!
Disconnect fuel filler hose, unbolting bed, wires!
Pump always goes out when tank is full!
I unbolted the side of bed tank filler was on!
Lifted that side high enough to remove and replace pump!
Realign thethe bed after removal, can be a real pain as well!
Wasn’t worth taking the time to make an access cover!
Something only needed every few years, and at times I hauled things like Fred that could leak!
Land Rover Discovery also has an access panel, so there's no need to drop the tank or even put the truck on a lift. However, while the pump is similar to what's in that Ram, the retaining ring is threaded on rather than just using tabs. It can be a real bugger to get off because it takes a full revolution or two before it loosens enough to turn by hand.
I have no idea how many customers I've heard say "NoNo I don't want any holes cut in my ____!" Apparently 99 percent of people who don't work on cars name them endearingly.
@@jeffmay5024 exactly. Most customers don't want custom hack jobs. Most repair shops will do a shitty job making an access panel. While my self, the vehicle owner, will put the time and effort to do it right. There's a difference between cutting a hole, and making an access panel that won't rust out in 2 months or let a bunch of water pass by it while driving on a rainy day. Or in the case of my thirdgen Camaro, an access panel that does not sacrifice the structural integrity or the body\frame. Everytime I see someone just cut a hole in thier Camaro's back hatch floor all I can see is a rolling safety hazard. That area of the unibody is a structural component that supports the rear suspension. Knowledge is power, but a little knowledge is more dangerous then ignorance. 😂
You Sir have ONCE AGAIN ELEVATED my respect for the modern MECHANIC! Like how complicated can they make this stuff?! I work on classic cars: graviry fed fuel line, period. Your skill, patience and continued postiviry make you the MOST watchable mech on YT! 😇😁
I'm a Studebaker guy myself. Fuel pump is mounted to the timing cover. Two bolts, 15 minute job to swap out a rebuilt one.
alll the plastic connectors, my god.
"how complicated can they make this stuff?"
Very. Though it is not always about whether it is a classic or not. At least for other types of vehicles.
Cessnas still have gravity fed fuel today (single engine or twin engine), whereas a large Boeing 747 (4 engines) has 4 main fuel pumps, 4 xfeed fuel pumps and a few others. And every single one needs to be turned on and off manually during normal operation. THAT is complicated ;)
Every time I watch a Ray video and hear 4 Non Blondes - Whats Up on the radio, I like to think ALL of his videos are taking place on the same day in the same timeline, and no one can prove otherwise...he truly is living in the Matrix...
Ray, I hate people that record everything they do...
But you're down to Earth and badass guy. I'd have no problem taking you anything for service
May I suggest you find the engineer who designed the location for the fuel pump and give him a "dope slap"?
Then...... Ask him why they did not put a small removable circular panel in the bed to facilitate an easier swap over of parts ? Then slap him again 😄
Probably nowhere to be found now from all the other people who did that to him. Lol.
The pump location and accessibility is exactly the same as all other manufactures, it has been this way for about 4 decades. Access has always been through top of tank. Safest design but crap service access and will never change.
Yeah...it's always the "engineer's" fault from people who have never solved an engineering problem in their life and have no idea that the one parameter being criticized is only one of many design requirements.
Engineer probably suggested that but the accountants saved the money on an access panal as they saw bigger garage bills as a good thing!
Now back in my day lol, I would order a similar GPM fuel pump and just swap the actual pump which is something one does when they need to increase fuel flow when you add a power feature.
Not to take away from Ray,another fantastic diagnostic genius is Eric at SouthMainAuto. Kindest regards 🇨🇦
I always learn or have lessons reinforced with Ray’s videos. This time around 1. Do the easiest things first. Like tapping on the fuel tank with a hammer. 2. Call for part availability before you start the job.
The PD steps reminded me of that old joke, $1 for labour, $9999 for knowing where to hit the fuel tank.
If you unbolt the drive shaft from the rear end and hang it out of the way, you get more room to work. You can reach in over the top of the tank to disconnect things easier. You also have more room to maneuver the tank. Do this at least once a week working at a Dodge dealership. Work smarter not harder.
might work, but does that not take approx the same time to do it without it?
but maybe for you, if you actually work at a dealership, and probably see 5 of those pumps a day, you might want to make things easier for repetitions, but for doing it once, i think either way works, but might as well do the ray method and disassemble as less as possible
Ray, you can take the actual motor (pump) out of the replacement pump and replace the failed motor (pump) in the original pump assembly. I assume the sender potentiometer is in acceptable condition. Great content as always.
OTOH, if Chrysler/Dodge/RAM's suppliers can make a fuel pump that fails well short of a 100K miles, how good is the potentiometer? It's one of those "cost of labor to to it/while we're in there" decisions.
Awesome input! It's a shame he hardly ever answers anyone's questions, just sayin...
I did that twice on my 1998 Ram 1500, but I don't know if it's possible in the newer ones. If you can't buy the motor alone, it's not going to happen, even if you could.
I feel so much more at ease when you put that secondary jack under a heavy vehicle. 😁
Great work Ray. The dealer stock date sounds more like the 5th of never. When you phone up on the specified date, they will most likely add another month onto it. Seen other mechanics, on other channels, fall foul of the same thing.
I just bought a 2020 RAM 1500, bought it used to save some money. It ended up needing a new headlight assembly, and dealership was able to do it for me for free. It took all of 4 months for the headlight assembly to show up after the original quoted time of 3 weeks.
Exactly what I was thinking. Quoted times are ghost times. Reality is you aren’t getting the part in the near future.
Yep, usually if it's about 3 weeks or more, it's a fake date. Same thing in Electronics/Computers, when we see 3 weeks out from the date we're trying to order (IE: it's the 1st, and it's set on the 21st), we know they have no real ETA.
12th of never, not 5th.
Percussive maintenance FTW!
This shows why it is so great that Dodge, RAM etc. all use common basic parts across their ranges. So easy to source the replacements!
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One thing you can do with Fluke DMM's is hit the min/max button and the meter will hold the maximum reading until you clear it. They will beep every time the reading updates with a higher number.
You had to love that at probably 8k past the warranty that the fuel pump fails and no one stocks it. Plus, if Dodge has that long of a back order and parts stores are showing discontinued…this is a known bad issue. Parts store might have quit carrying it due to too many returns. Like others have said, might want to see if you can just replace the pump only instead of the whole assembly.
Welcome to 2022, where nearly everything is on “national back order”.
@@jeffs2809 --Blame the Global Elite who Controls the Democrat Party -They want America to Fail in Prep. for their One World Gov.. Our New Lexus was on a Ship just off CA. Coast for over a month before it could be Off Loaded... The only thing on Time these Days are the Illegals....
I got the extended warranty on my ram 1500 classic 👌
instead of the whole pump assembly the pump itself should be able to be replaced look for just the pump. I think Holly makes an aftermarket one that should retrofit into the assembly.
The motor in the pump is most probably some general part used in every second fuel pump out there. Buying the motor is the way to go.
In many cases what has gone is a $5 Chinese electric motor you can buy from Aliexpress...its the time to strip down and reassemble...
Fuel gauge assembly is usually right behind this chain of failures. My money would wait on complete assembly!!! Something you have think about when purchasing failure prone auto manufacturers. We are on our 4th 4 Runner with no parts replacement until after 10 years and 200k miles. Front wheel bearing at 204k. Gas,Oil,and Tires Happy Motoring 😊
and will YOU guarantee that something else will not breath in that piece of shit chrysler part in the next year, for example level sender, or the plastic itself craking, and when the customer brings it back for that, will YOU guarantee the replacing of that part? because otherwise, Ray would have to do that job AGAIN and for FREE,
it might be fine if you do it in your backyard, since it is just you, but a shop will have to guarantee that work, and i personally would never do so, especially if i am doing it for someone else, just get the whole assembly, and get over with that job, it probably takes about 2 or more hours, and that is with the comfort of a high lift, if you are doing on jackstands, i can guarantee to you that it will be a nightmare, so do it once for the heck of it
@@Qwertyuiop-wg5xu 😅
sometimes you can remove the pump from the module and replace just that. it's not the preferred option, but it gets ya rolling.
This video is a perfect example of why I subscribed a year ago and watch your videos every day!
"This would be a lot easier if it wasn't so hard" 🤣
Failure must occur often if no pumps available on market. Thanks for the video, Ray.
Ray, just want to say that my mechanic had a few friends that helped him lift the bed off of my 01 Ford Ranger to change fuel pump. He said it was quicker and faster. Only cost me OEM parts and a case of bottled Bud Lite. He worked at his home shop on a Saturday. Other mechanics are complaining about getting wrong parts or parts delays. I see your angel checking on you.👍🙏🏽✌🏻🇺🇸
Back in the 70's a GM fuel pump on my truck was powered by a lobe on the cam, was located on the side of the engine where you could get to it, and was removed by disconnecting two fuel lines and two bolts. The pump cost around $18 back then and was readily available almost anywhere. I have given up on automobiles and try to ride my motorcycle as much as I can. Rainman you are very good at what you do and have more patience than I do.
Ray is one of the few who knows the difference between “further” and “farther”.
Maybe he watched Weird Al's "Word Crimes".
Ray does have a little problem with nuts, bolts, and screws though. But I am nit-picking. I think he does great work!
Yes, but does he know correct punctuation...?
Ray ...... and Groucho Marx.....🥸
Really enjoy watching your diagnosis process. Not a mechanic here, but it sure helps me understand the workings of an engine.
And hopefully the crap we go through.
Well, and that we all aren't just out to get your money. Unfortunately the few gives most a bad name. Which REALLY chaps my ass!!😡🤬🤬😡
Somewhere in Upstate NY, a man named Eric is salivating over the underside of this truck. Clean as a whistle! Got to love the south for its weather.
Yeah, Ray is the one or two to watch for this kind of content. Fuel pumps anyone? Just a few days ago, back in the '90s somewhere, I had a fleet of 1990 Ford Escorts, one for me, one for the wife unit, and one for one of the kid units. I had to change every single fuel pump in them, and one of them, I did it again in a few months because it was a bad pump that lasted only a couple months or so. I got pretty good at it, so when the fuel pump in my current 1995 S10, it's in really good shape, stopped pumping, I crawled under it to take a look. There was no room for me to do it myself so it went to the auto repair shop, $300 for the pump and $300 for the labor!
Oh no, what an ending! So reminiscent of work I needed to have on my 2010 Volvo with 140K miles this past year. Had to replace the exhaust system from the cats to the tailpipe due to massive rust from salted roads. Five weeks waiting on parts! Explanations included "supply chain issues" and "manufacturers switching over to an all-electric fleet." Fifty years ago when I was old enough to drive, I had a thing for old British sports cars. The cars I bought were 15 years old. I NEVER had a problem getting parts from British Leyland, all locally available. It is more proof of my theory that humans peaked in the 1960s/70s and it's been downhill ever since.
Stupidest thing ever done was to put the fuel pump in the tank! Two lines, two bolts and you were done changing a fuel pump. I know that on the GMs it was quicker and easier to undo the driver's side of the bed, loosen the passenger side and raise the bed. My boys used to argue that I was wrong until they seen me do it. Another great diagnosis Ray. The parts availability issue is nuts. Stay safe my friend.
it actually has led to fuel pumps lasting quite a bit longer than they used to because they are bathed in cool fluid.
@@adamlesandrini312 until they started using junk parts. Now they're failing under 60k
Most of the fuel pump jobs i get come with the story: “it was running fine, i was low on gas, filled it up and it wouldnt start after.”
The fuel pump is cooled by the gasoline in the tank. What happens is, people will drive low on gas, overheating the pump. Then shock the pump with cold gas and kill it. Then i’m stuck wrestling a full gas tank to replace the pump.
@@tuloko16 makes sense. Interesting
@@tuloko16 Great engineering decision. "Let's design around coolant that may or may not be there " The problem with bright ideas is no one points out that an idiot on fire shines just as bright as a light bulb.
Next, let's design the starter so it relies on tension from a seatbelt around a 200lb male American and will shred itself if the seat belt isn't engaged!
Love how used every possible reason, a year ago i had the same situation. I was standing my watch post, heard my aftermarket alarm go off. Stopped and didn't think anything of it till it was time to leave. Wouldn't start dead in the water. Towed it to the dealership, and it was a bad fuel pump. Same noise, and everything this person had i did as well. So far, another year since then with no issues.
Had a similar issue with a 2019 Nissan van, but that one took over 4500 miles to go from first intermittent problems to having enough symptoms to be able to actually diagnose it. Those vehicles (with the V6 engine) have no pressure-test port. It never actually quit running, but on the fetch-to-shop trip, it would not go over 45mph. We later found out that the van had been showing the initial symptoms at three different dealers before it landed at the one where the owner acquired it used.
I have 245,000 miles on my 2000 tundra and it still has the original fuel pump still running like a champ long live 4.7 v8 😮
Only 175K on my 2006 Tundra with a 4.7, American truck lovers hate but it’s a great truck.
When Ray said that he couldn't find it, I should have posted my finding 8 hours ago. I found the pump out of a NEW 2019 Dodge Ram with 15,000 miles on it. The ram was in a front-end accident. On Ebay. Everyone will think EBAY is a ********************** site, A USED PART IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
these are good lessons for young and old mechanics, great job and very entertaining
had the same problem with my 95 full size van. While I had the pump unit out I checked the pump motor itself and found that I could replace that pump for a whole lot less than the $1000 cad for the whole unit. Replacement was a breeze and while I was at it I replaced the filter as well. The cost for everything was around $100 cad. Sold the van in 2009 with the fuel pump still working.
Just watching Ray deal with all these tight spaces and stubborn plastic connectors had me feeling anxious, and glad I don’t have to do it. I’m glad there are people like him that can do it and don’t mind doing it. 👏
Good morning and Happy New Year to you and your family.
My husband and myself watch your shows on TH-cam every single day. We are very proud of you and your accomplishments. The best mechanic ever. So sad we don't have one like you here in Orlando. God bless you my friend.
At least you are in the same State as Ray Ray. I am on the other coast.
He's only an expensive tow away!
This takes me back to the time I was operating a small body shop. I distinctly remember a 3 year old Roadrunner that needed a hood. This was a friend to had been turned away from body shops. The hood was discontinued and there was no aftermarket at the time. I was forced to source a scabby used hood and work it over to put the customer back on the road. From that day forward I avoided the Dodge Boys like the plague.
Because nobody deserves a second chance?
Bruh, I just got a 2020 RAM 1500 and I'm watching this at 57,000 miles. LOL Oh buddy, I hope she holds. So far so good.
You amaze me with your connector knowledge. If I try to do anything the connectors cause me the greatest grief
Good investigation and experience helps with problem solving 👍 If they ever quibble about your labour costs just remember they are paying you for your knowledge and skills that you have learnt over many years that allows you to do what you do Ray ❤️
thats the excuse they all use. but then why do chain store charge so much also? the 17 year old kid doesn't have the "knowledge and skills"
@crazydavebacon1 if you are suggesting walmart and ray charge the same prices then why would anyone ever take their vehicle to Walmart for service?
@@TriforceOfCourage97 it's like any profession, the more skilled and knowledgeable you are can allow you to charge a fee that is consistent with your background. An example is working in IT, if you know how to build and fix computers that is skills and knowledge that a general person will pay to fix a problem.
@crazydavebacon1 because it'd a small factor. And like any other trade on earth, prices are made by the cost of a licensed tech or journeyman worker. You don't base your shop pay based on what the mechanic actually makes because then everyone would walk in and request for the newest and cheapest mechanic to work on their vehicles. The vast majority of the cost has little to do with the tech, but more with property taxes, shop maintenance, shop insurance etc. My shop charges $130 an hour. You're paying a business to operate, you're not paying a tech, if you only want to pay a tech, hire a mobile mechanic.
@@SpencyP92 And a mobile mechanic is going to charge based on trip time, vehicle maintenance, insurance, fees and fuel. Plus they have a skill that the shop tech doesn't use as often. Improvisation.
The pump and fuel pipe from the new unit would be fitted into the old unit in 20 minutes go on ray I know you want to!
As others have mentioned I believe you should ask the customer if they want you to just change the electric motor even if it can't be fully warrantied like a OEM part. I think you can find a fuel pump if you scour the many online parts sales companies. I certainly understand why you would be hesitant to do that. Your shop your rules 🙂
Thank you Ray!! So sorry to hear that 2019 parts are not available for 3weeks, geez!!!
I enjoy your diagnostic process… keep ‘‘em coming! and Happy New Year! to you and your family.
That is sad, national backorder. No excuse for this. Great video Ray. Keep us updated.
That's Awesome Ray, never saw that been done before, sometimes the old ways are the only ways 👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍
I love work. I could sit around all day and watch it being done!
Thanks for the tap, tap, tap with a soft hammer trick on the gas tank! I have a 1999 Dodge Daytona. It sat on 4 jack stands for over 2 years. I started it ever now and then over that time. I took it of the jack stands to start it up and move it. No fuel pump running then. I had to tow with a tow strap to move it. I'll try rapping on the tank and see if it will get the fuel pump to run. Thanks for the tip!!!
One trick for unavailable parts is look for a tuning version and clear that with the customer ^^ it's mostly 20% more pricewise, and the tuninng shops have them mostly in stock ^^ customer gets to decide to pay more for a (mostly) better part available right now or wait for the original ^^
I know a guy who rebuilds the fuel pumps to last because there is some defective wiring that is causing them all to fail prematurely. No surprise they're on backorder. Also whenever the b/o date is that far in the future it never fails to get extended. Such a PIA 😂
That would really piss me off having to wait 3 stinkin’ weeks for a part. Unbe-f**king-believable! No RAM trucks for this old dude.
@@46bovine I bet right now with the global economy being destroyed and shipping backlogs being the excuse. Parts for any truck/vehicle manufacturer will be the same, most of the parts like fuel pumps come from several factories who produce for more than one company, Ram isn't making that fuel pump !
Every truck is different (obviously), so when my fuel pump gave up on my 03' Ranger, me and my Godson just removed the bed to get to the tank. There were a few electrical connections, bed bolts, a little lifting, and there it was. It was also back before Covid and parts were easier to get. It was also easier to do that way because the bed sits lower. I know different manufacturers do "just in time" parts when building, but I hope the haven't been doing it for replacement parts.
We used to use the hammer vibrasonic adjustment trick on stuck starter control valves on the engines on B-52s in the USAF.
Thank you for the CC, Made this 100% more enjoyable. Love your work, wish you was in Iowa.
Love this video. Your frustration is clear and justified. This type of nonsense is my number 1 concern when attempting a repair/replace project on my own car. I can't afford for my car to sit for 3 weeks, waiting on proper parts, after finding out the parts I received are wrong. Anyway, great video. The "Unexplained Mysteries" sightings were fun. Your daughter might enjoy those clips later on in life. Much, much later on... like well beyond her teen years, for sure. 👍
I own a 2015 Ecodiesel Ram love it. Got a recall notice on it for the fuel lift pump. Tried to make appointment for repair the part is on a 9 month back order thank God my truck is still running... Gotta love the state of our country in 2022\2023
As others have stated, the pump in the pumb module is replaceable. There are standard pumps sold by Walbro, Airtex... that will work with some modification, but if you want a correct drop in pump that will just work talk to Racetronix and they'll get you pointed at the right one.
Nothing like percussive maintenance.
Awesome video..... I own a 19 ram bighorn with the 5.7. got 30 thousand miles on it. If I run into the not starting issue, this will help. Your diagnostic procedure was very interesting. Glad to see there are still real mechanics still around.... thanks 👍.
Thanks for all your vids Ray . Happy new year to you and your family . I hope you have a happy , healthy , and prosperous 2023 .
This happens all the time when dealing with aftermarket parts unfortunately. I have found you’re always better off going OEM but then of course the dealerships never have anything in stock. I would look around online for OEM parts suppliers you might be able to find it sooner.
But if the whole module is not available at the moment, why not just remove the pump motor and replace it, maybe it is possible to get it faster. Here in Estonia, we do this most of the time because it's cheaper, because most of our pieces are generally quite expensive. Otherwise well done Ray.
Happy New Year to you and the family. When I cant get a part I usually look to see if it can be rebuilt /repaired. Sometimes you just gotta think like Larry the cable guy 'git er dun'🏁
What i really like here is the process of searching for the issue as most would just say to the client change the pump and if it didn't start it means its a fuse issue that only cost a fraction of the pump.
Rainman Ray's Repairs.. A 3 week wait for parts is just crazy..
It's important to remember that all these components are originally installed with the truck's bed off. It's not all that convenient unless you have a spare chain hoist hanging from above or a couple of handy helpers, but it really does make a difference.
I pull the 4 drivers side bed bolts then loosen the passenger sides 1 to 2 complete turns. The beds are relatively light so I just prop them up out of the way. Then I just reach in and disconnect what ever I need to to remove the pump.
Thank you for your courage.
Wow! Talk about frustration!!
Well Ray, you gave us a lesson in patience. Thank you, and hopiny you have a really great year..
We were all riding the struggle bus with you today, Ray.
Bluuuddy good job 😂
Auto engineers must love designing connectors all different to make mechanic's life difficult. Like always great video Bill N LI NY
Not the engineers it’s the bean counters that want you to buy a new vehicle every 3yrs - after a few 2k dollar repair bills people just be a new one.if they made it ez to fix they wouldn’t sell as many new cars- capitalism run amok car industry has always been scammy
SOME are actually easy. BEFORE vehicles start needing actual service. Then, notsomuch
Ain't that the truth. I have a Fiat van here in depression-era UK. All electrical connectors seem to be different to each other and leaving you figuring how they come apart. They like putting the release clip on the underside so you can't see it - just to make things even more of a struggle. C'est la vie!
At about 10:00 you are measuring the voltage to the fuel pump with your Fluke meter. You had to go and turn the key to see if there was voltage but you couldn't see the meter. Your meter is much like mine (Fluke 87III) and has the "MIN MAX" feature. This will let you record the highest (or lowest) voltage that it sees for a brief time without you having to see it. Then just press the MIN MAX button and it will show you the highest voltage it read. You have to set the RANGE button first before you test. I used to service televisions and this function came in handy when troubleshooting shut down circuits.
When I help new mechanics I will say this pertaining to lean codes - Yes it could mean more air than it should be but could also be less fuel than expected. It helps keep all diagnostic avenues open
Stellantis' finest garbagio strikes again. On another note, immediate giggles every time the X-files theme begins to play when Wife Unit/kid units step through the shot unexpectedly. I have no idea why this is so funny to me, but I love it.
at least that gas tank wasn't plumb full. you could probably fabricobble some sort of aftermarket pump into that assembly, if there were no other options available, and it may come to that if the mothership can't provide an OEM one. The question is, how long do you want that truck sitting in your lot and how long can the owner go without it?
No, the real question is who's going to pay for his time to tinker around with a half-assed solution that may or may not work and if it doesn't work he can't be reimbursed for the time he's wasted.
Great video Ray....it is what life it for all of us...we rip things apart to find that NO ONE has a part to replace it with. Very frustrating for you. Nice educational video.....I feel inspired not sad.
Wow that's gotta hurt, I would have never guessed that it was that hard to find
Yea Ray . You have to replace the pump motor only not the entire assembly. Remove the pump and match it up. It will match to a carter older 5.7 hemi pump motor . They are the same .
Nice job and diagnostic. Engeneering prowess is here at it's best, with multiple different connectors, all more insane to access than another... The availability problem does not smell good: a 3 years old part failing and already classified as unobtainable is something other sectors like electronics regularly encounter. Failing parts subcontractors, failing quality management are common these days, especially with so many car constructors having their design and efforts diverted towards future electric models. I guess in the next ten years, people will have big trouble replacing specific and essential parts like ECUs, injectors, catalytic converters... All these you can't easily find in a scrapyard nor in alternate sources!
Ray what a awesome diagnosis on that Ram, really enjoy watching your channel.👍👍
Long ago, I had an older 90ish company truck that went thru 3 fuel pumps in two years. I also beat on the tank to get it running a few times. The last one they forgot to connect the filler tube, and it resulted in an embarrassing episode with the fire department at a gas station. We took it to another shop and they found out it was the wiring harness at the tank. Few shops it seems actually fix the problem but just replace the symptoms. I'm glad there are people like you still out there. I wish you were close to me.
Nice diagnostic job, it is a shame that you couldn't get the parts to finish the job but the entire supply chain is messed up since covid
The whole parts system is messed up not just in America but here in the UK too! I'm sure certain higher authorities governments are making it more difficult and expensive to repair old cars by making parts difficult to get, here in the UK they are closing down scrap yards, getting car recyclers to buy up all the cheap cars and scrap them. Also increasing VED ie road tax and insurance premiums so it makes it more difficult to own/run a car. As probably they want us to travel in cattle wagons sorry buses and trains.
Ray try the Min/Max push button in your fluke. It will capture Min/max Voltage or whatever you’re looking for. So when you’re in the cab starting it will capture it for you. Great diagnostic tool especially for those pesky spurious gremlins