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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2024
- Draymond Green has never been truly held accountable by the Warriors organization or even the NBA. And now we're seeing Green come back from missing 12 games due to an altercation with Jusuf Nurkic. In this video, we'll explore why it is that Draymond Green never gets held accountable.
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Draymond Green proves the point that, as long as you win/have won, you'll get a pass and get away with anything.
The problem is that GSW is PR agency, not a sports organisation.
The Warriors send Draymond to do their talking and dirty work for them. He takes all the slings and arrows on the mic and on the court to protect Kerr the lightskinned boys and the Warriors front office. That is what he's paid for and this is his job. The NBA approves, the Warriors approve, most of the media approves of him. The Joe Dumars and Pistons raising him thing makes it make even more sense. I can't get mad at Draymond for doing he's assigned to do. Plus the Warriors are the NBAs showcase team and all the (casual) "fans" love them and their 3s so they can do no wrong.
You don't even have to win. Exhibit A:
Miles Bridges pleaded no contest to felony domestic violence charges and is currently on a 3 year probation.... _while playing and getting $8 million this year._
This is the NBA being so bereft of integrity and innovation - while still being as desperate as ever for "the next MJ" - that they are willing to let Klutch exert stupid levels of influence.
^ ^ ^ The Punchline: _Now take a wild guess who Bridges' agent is..._ 🤔
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I didn't like the "get help and get better" narrative because it disregards his actions after all of his offenses. He taunts the crowd during ejections and goes to press conferences making light of his actions. He made a whole ass mini-documentary after punching Poole making it look like he was gonna become a better man. If an ego like that is treated in the same vein as serious mental health issues then we're losing touch with reality.
Yeah as someone who struggles with anxiety and depression, this is a huge slap in the face (pun intended).
He’s a sociopath in all honesty.
It doesn't disregard it but rather opens an opportunity to at least check it off as a plausible cause. I don't like it either but with all the snowflakes pretending to have anxiety, you have to pretend to have sympathy to avoid their ire and give the player the psychological help.
Now we know why you aren't a psychologist 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️. This is exactly the bad behavior you shouldn't have to help people like DG23. Your comment is not helping and make You part of the problem.
Draymond and the NBA are laughing in our faces. The only reason they don't pull the race card is because he plays in the NBA, and it obviously wouldn't work.
Steve Kerr’s blatant lies in postgame shows is honestly terrible.
He’s just following the script
What do u expect from someone dumb enough to name their son the N word
“I dyuhhhh uhhhh I didn’t see it.” His go-to excuse. Kerr is cooked and will be out of a job by the end of the season.
Kerr has always been weak we need to open a dialogue about school shootings. And then that’s it no solutions no ideas nothing just we need to open a dialogue about opening up a dialogue people who are smart about a sport are usually not the brightest people Kerr is a great example dumb in anything but basketball.
its embarrassing how he claims he pulled down Jaylen Brown's shorts because he "cant let his kids see another man standing over me." But he can let his kids see him punching james harden, choking rudy gobert, knocking out jordan poole, kicking steven adams in the nuts, stomping on domantas sabonis and 360 slapping Jusuf Nurkic
Unironically fragile masculinity
He’s weak
I’m glad that when the warriors decide to blow it up, they’ll keep curry, but will most likely send Draymond off
Sounds like my dad honestly.
Ya'll didn't grow up in a household that romanticizes and glorified violence? Lucky you. My dad was a marine. If someone messed with me and I didn't fight I'd be in more trouble than getting suspended for fighting.
Hell getting in a fight often earned me a pat on the back and a sip of beer for "being a man."
Took years to deprogram but gave me a sharp mentality for MMA. But you gotta deprogram that shit if you want a solid nuclear family yourself when you grow up.
It’s not fair to compare him to WWE, those guys are trying NOT to hurt each other
😂😂😂 good one
“I have a kid watching at home” He’s also watching when he punches a teammate. Great example to set as a father
If I had to guess, I'd say that Draymond had an abusive father, or father figure.
When he's talking about HIS kid watching someone standing over him and finding it unacceptable, more likely he's speaking about his own inner child who got stood over and found it unacceptable. This pain in unacceptable for him to admit publicly, so he projects it out onto his kid.
Let's hope he doesn't squish the joy out of his son fighting this battle from his past.
If he's just a normal dude, not a millionaire on an NBA court, that's many counts of assault and he's in jail.
That’s a stupid point, tell that to any hockey player or fukn Grayson Allen ffs, basketball is as close to a contact sport as you can get, Draymond just plays in a cheap and dirty way. Maybe we should lock up Michael Strahan for giving someone a concussion?
Yeah that's the craziest thing, he absolutely should have been charged with literally assault for what he did to poole/nurk
@@Maximilian1990 If I was Poole, I would have called the cops and pressed charges. Maybe Draymond will learn not to be a psycho if he's stuck in a cell.
He’s not a normal dude…that’s the point. Almost all of football would be considered assault if it wasn’t on the field. Boxing is LITERALLY two people seeing who can hurt the other more. It’s almost like the context of actions dictate how they’re viewed and punished.
@@Maximilian1990in what world? That’s the dumbest statement I’ve ever heard.
This dude went from enforcer to victim so quick it's making my head spin
He’s still enforcing..that’s why they want him out
Smart asf clearly
The real moment I knew it was a problem out of control was when he curbstomped Sabonis during the Warriors Kings series in 2023 and no one from the Warriors bench thought, "Huh, you know, maybe we should stop Draymond from antagonizing the crowd purposely after using one of the home players' chest as a trampoline."
That was already a bit late. It's been since 2015
Toxic people NEVER take accountability. Dray is a master manipulator and plays the victim. I am beyond sick of Dray and I’ve been a warriors fan for decades. Long before the dynasty. The Poole punch was the last for me. Warriors organization are enablers. Bullied Poole and greatly affected his life in many ways. No accountability for that. Sick of it. Thank you for this video.
NBA did this with Ja as well. Talking about these guys like “I just hope he gets the help he needs” as if they just got a terminal diagnosis. The NBA has an accountability issue. Draymond will not change until someone cleans his clock and stomps his nuts. He’s gotten away for too long with writing the cheques with his mouth that his team cashes for him.
Society has an accountability issue and it bleeds everywhere. People overeat and then ask society to conform to their weaknesses by taxing fast foods to make them less appealing. People loot and rob stores in their communities then 2-3 years later claim they live in food deserts because of "racism." 😂😂 #themoreyouknow #clownworld
Threatening mall security, assaulting a minor over a pickup basketball game and threatening said minor with a pistol
It’s so cringe dude, who need “help” are the Nike slaves who work in sweat shops not these spoiled man children athletes (I like ja tho)
@@sdfishinn it’s not that what Ja did was so bad, it was mostly just young dumb behaviour that countless athletes have exhibited when young. But NBA and his team gave him the EXACT same treatment. In the past when AI and guys like that screwed up, they got told they screwed up, they were told to take responsibility for it, and there was no massage treatment like their errors were so utterly connected to anything deeper than bad decision msk8ng. I use AI as the example because he grew up in an environment where you might expect him to play loose with the rules. But when he screwed up, he was treated like a man. NBA treated Ja like a child and Draymond like an overgrown child.
I still can’t get over how people actually defended Draymond sucker-punching his own college aged teammate. I don’t care if Poole even deserved it, a grown man who can’t take the heat like that is a problem, not a key to victory.
@@sdfishinn seriously. Don't even get me started on the crucifixion of a struggling painter from Austria back in the 1930s. Some people just get hate for no reason 😒
100% agree. Never cried with Steve Kerr. Never genuinely considered giving up his $100m with Adam Silver. He's a complete truth twister.
Twisting the reality like any person with mental health issues that can accept his condition. Your poor judgemental comments is a bigger problem and the real cause of the behavior that people like DG23 keep reiterating. Instead of judging people learn how to help them.
@@blender_wiki Ok, in order to help him, he should sit the rest of the season. Don't want to put himself under more stress and lash out again.
STRONG disagree that candid comments are α bigger problem in this situation than Draymond's oblivious, entitled bullshit.
I'd agree with you if Draymond's mental health issue was anything other than Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which is defined by an unwillingness to feel shame and a complete refusal to admit that you bear any responsibility for your problems.
The main problem with giving narcissistic people sympathy, is that they immediately abuse it. As they are abusers, you should first safeguard the world against them punching someone again before you try to solve the Rubik's Cube of trying to get them to be accountable for their actions.
If you need any proof, watch how he ALWAYS has some kind of condition on any apology he makes. He's not apologising, he's worming his way through an inconvenient situation so that he can get back to earning his $100m.
The idea that Draymond really learned his lesson, and then premiered that breakthrough, on his podcast, is naïve. The idea he cried with Steve Kerr is naïve. You act like Draymond hasn't lied to everyone time after time. He deserves no trust at this point until he shows some genuine contrition. His weasel words and fake apologies don't even come close to that.
Pointing out a problem is not the problem. That's gaslighting 101.
@@blender_wikinormally I would agree but Draymond isn’t mentally ill. He knows wtf he’s doing. He didn’t need any help. This shit been goin on for years. The warriors just enabled his behavior and he thought he couldn’t be touched until now
What do u expect from someone who named their son the N word
Steve Kerr and the rest of the organization have failed to keep him in check. They'd pretend like his behaviour wasn't a problem because hey, they're winning championships so who cares? Well, now it's come back to bite them in the ass. Draymond doesn't do himself any favours by constantly dodging accountability, either.
17:40, imo, that's what's wrong with him. He knew his antics made the warriors lose the champion. But he felt he did nothing wrong. What a paradox...
If only Zach Randolph and/or Ron artest was still in the league to handle Draymond
I still remember when Green tried a dirty play against Conley, who is still injured but playing, and Randolph instantly goes right to him wanting an explanation why he did it. Green didn't want that smoke so he actually talked to him relatively calmly.
Any real enforcer from those times and before would totally hoe Dray
Randolf and Draymond are both Izzo products, tough old school brand of ball.
Imagine pulling half the shit Draymond did in any of our jobs and coming back with therapy after 2 weeks 😅
It seems the biggest thing he got out of his therapy was that he learned what the word ‘help’ means. Not exactly the breakthrough everyone was hoping for. Also, the amount of talking about his own journey shows he’s learned nothing. Take responsibility, apologise then make amends by not assaulting anyone in future. It’s only a matter of time until he screws up again.
It’s not a mental health issue, it’s a lack of punishment issue
One can become the other.
I swear, I am really hating this mental health issue scapegoat. No, the guy just has issues. Anger Management issues. We need to stop pointing to "mental illness/health issues" when they are clearly not because all it does is take away from one's accountability of their own actions and diminishes the severity of those that do suffer from mental illnesses.
@@AGradeNonsensenice excuse
@@AGradeNonsenseone can; but not in this case
It’s both. The lack of punishment/consequences reinforces his ego/anger/behavioural issues.
Lfg tooforwon!! I’m glad you went in on the media on this Draymond has so many allies in the media and it gets so annoying watching him do something unhinged and then everyone in the media has his back usually saying it was the other persons fault and he shouldn’t be suspended then he is suspended and everyone talks about how unfair it is that he was suspended. Rinse, repeat.
People are literally doing prison time for less than Dray smh
I hate that snippet from PG’s podcast. Therapy doesn’t mean you’re crazy, it’s a place to use your words to verbalize feelings in a neutral and professional manner environment while healing usually, deep seated trauma.
It’s 2024, that narrative that you have to be insane to go to therapy needs to die.
You gotta remember pretty much 90% of the league got scholarships and coasted thru school, these guys are not bright at all. Hell you hear about a lot of em cheating on tests to get by.
People mad at the "he needs help" narrative would be equally upset if he were fired without asking his side or his level of victim hood 😂😂 #snowflakes #damnedifyoudodamnedifyoudont
@@JohnDoe-zw8vxBeing older than 12 and using snowflake still is sad af
@mimosajd you want a therapist to hear you cry about it or should I order you a waaaa-ambulance? 🤣🤣
If his best friend was the son of the gm of the Detroit pistons, I dought he grew up all that rough. Need to quit blaming everyone else. Need to blame draymond.
Good point.
Why did Ringo star catch so many strays in this? 😂
Right? lol Should have been Pete Best copping the shade, if anyone … 😉
I love it how Rasheed put it. Its the team's fault as well. It's Steph's fault, it's Klays fault.
How are Steph and Klay responsible for Green’s unpredictable, impulsive violent acts?
@@cycleoflife565they let it happen over and over. Kerr lets it happen. They are called enablers.
@@cycleoflife565Steph is not a leader.
@@NotGordwhat’s a leader? What are the qualities?
@@Ishbikesa leader is a person that obviously holds people accountable for their actions
Draymond claiming to have "cried" when he can't even withstand a second being seen as someone who isn't tough is just the amazing PR lie that he chose for himself.
But then again. Why would he have claimed to cry if he just wants to be seen as tough?
One conversation that needs to happen is how former players like JJ can have terribly biased takes when they get into media.
dude's always been biased towards his contemporaries. for how "smart" everyone says he is (which he is) there is that side of him where he'll almost always side with a player over any actual constructive/critical thinking
This is the main criticism I have when it comes to former players being talk show hosts for any sport. I mean, you see this consistently with both Shaq and Chuck, too.
Ex players will always baby and defend current players despite those players being in the wrong. They can never manage to come up with any solid defense but they feel like they have to defend players because they were once in their shoes. It creates a massive form of bias.
One other thing I don’t think was mentioned is that he’s a Klutch client. Rich Paul’s probably back there pulling some strings.
Lazy take
@@jnydfs6003 But is it wrong? You gonna say agents *don't* have undue sway with the league? I think they do, and it never gets mentioned.
@@Trollificusv2 hold that grown ass man accountable for HIS actions Rich Paul aint in his ear telling him to do all these antics.
@@jnydfs6003 Fair enough, but I think the point was Rich Paul having influence with the league (and probably GMs), not callin' shots for Dray.
Everything is about Klutchsports. Klutchsports literally buried the Miles Bridges situation. They're a media racket and the most corrupt thing to ever appear in the NBA.
And all the people in the congregation said Amen
Lmao wtf relax no theyre not ..
Sorta like how domestic violence against men is buried huh?
And even LAUGHED AT.
Shut up and stop assaulting other players lmao
Draymond doesn't need help. He's a wealthy, grown-ass man. He can afford his own therapy if he wants to go that route. What he needs is to retire. I have no idea why Adam Silver evidently convinced him not to retire. I love that statement from Draymond "I don't usually apologise, but I would like to apologise this time, coz I didn't intend to hit Jusuf". LOL, that is just gold, he 100% planned on whacking Nurkic in the head. Draymond 'never intends' do any of the shit he does, but he just keeps on doing it. When you get older, you can't do the same things on the court you used to and this gets hard to accept. Most guys learn to accept it. Others, like Draymond just start lashing out. It's past time for him to go.
What draymond needs is to find his match in the league, so many people he hit would have whooped his ass if they were allowed to fight
@@amaimon8031they are just better humans then Draymond
Draymond has no accountability or self awareness
Cap
@@J_Dub25 the truth hurts.
@@charltonmccullough4494 I guess you know him personally huh with your dumbass
He’s a lolcow
@@J_Dub25what has he done to show any kind of responsibility
He was never held accountable cause the warriors were winning and people embraced this reckless behavior. There’s nothing wrong with playing tough and giving it your all but draymond has always gone out of his way to hurt people, and that’s just not respectable as a fan of basketball.
Can you imagine if he did any of that to Ron Artest? The league wouldn't have to suspend him cause he would be in a funeral home.
He literally did this with him and world peace didn’t really do anything. (Which I respect him for fwiw but what a strange post)
@@wephilips6651Ron Artest went through a transition from his violently impulsive ways later in his career. Had they met up before that change in demeanor Green would’ve been folded up and tossed in the nearest trash receptacle.
I’m waiting for him to do it to jokic again and get punted through the opposite rim like morris
Nba not kicking him out the league says alot about them
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Yours and Clique production
Props to you man, your work is AMAZING
Wow that's amazing! That is high praise thank you
I'm so sick of him. I don't like the Warriors anymore because they shield him.
Tooforone dropping a banger is like saying the sky is blue. My brother, it’s a fact.
Best **chuckle** in or around the game today. [R.I.P. Bill Russell]
Egotistical and Narcissistic bad behavior doesn't mean dude needs some "help".
Draymond is just a bad person.
Always hyped for a new upload!
A statement is 5 games?! What the fuck, Perkins? That’s barely a slap on the wrist
Tooforone is the maestro of compiling all the evidence and putting it all together!!! Such a step up from the one take and isolated opinions and discussions content.imagining the hours of gathering and editing that go into all your videos! Loved the music at the end. 🎉
Hate that the media tried pushing the narrative that Draymond needs help...the dude is a bully. He doesn't need counseling, he needs a huge suspension. Make his pockets hurt
Draymond is clearly a narcissist. Watch the mental gymnastics he does to avoid taking responsibility, expressing shame, or saying sorry.
"Lebron COAXED me into getting suspended'
'Is now the time or place to share my story? No' (on his own 'tell all' special) 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
'Three days after his exile, for want of a better word (um...punch?)'
Reminds me of my father.
Well said. He disrespects his teammates by indicating that they aren’t men enough to handle their own business.
I'm sorry about your father
@@friezuh240 Thanks brother
Cap
@@J_Dub25 Isn’t J Dub good? Baby Shai.
Right as i was binging some old videos, here is a new one
Draymond Green has single handedly cost warriors at least 3 championships.
Ong Steph should be a 7 time champ by now
Keep dropping that heat!!
Draymond isnt really that good, but hes an enforcer everyone knows could end people career from eye pops, knocking you down and landing on a joint, jumping off your chest, etc.
Love everything you’ve made. Keep it up!
Falling on the ground after taking a contested shot in professional basketball; unexplainable
"Dad why are you pulling a man's pants down from underneath him?"
"Son, let me explain"
Seeing him get elbowed brought a smile to face
Yaaaaaaaaay another twoforwon vid, best channel for NBA imo
we appreciate your dedication. profile some less talked about teams/players at some point. kings, magic, okc, there’s lots & the main media only covers stars.
I've got a video coming up that I think you'll love 🙏🏾
@@tooforwon241 huge, huge fan of all your vids they’ve got me thru some hard days. i’m hyped. much, much love brother ♥️
You and CommissionerDynamo are my favortite NBAtuber for being real and making great edits all the time. More people need to hold Draymond accountable, the dude plays victim everytime 😂😂😂
If I were playing against him I would be doing everything I could to bring the big baby out of him.
It wouldn't be that difficult to do.
Tooforwon with another masterpiece
Consistent my guy!
Draymond is the basketball equivalent of Diego Costa
For some reason he reminds me of pepe
@@Lgx-ie4if him too, both players you hate when they're on the other team but love if they're on yours
fun fact: the only reason why Green chose to be a basketball player instead of an MMA fighter is because they made it illegal to punch people in the nuts
“Babe wake up, a new TooForWon just dropped”
This is Emmy worthy content.
Nice video bro
the best NBA content on youtube and it isn't even close
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The GREATEST coverage I’ve ever seen of this situation! The hypocrisy he has and the victim mentality are so cringe
We need a Jalen Brunson video bro bro! Loving your content keep it up 🔥
Good stuff
I don't know how this guy doesn't have more subscribers. Best NBA content I've seen on YT!
For real his videos got me to the nba the good and the bad part of the nba
It's coming. One thing I appreciate is the content has been this quality since the earlier days 🔥
4:55 Joe Dumars needs to fire his lighting guy. Bros lit like a Bond villain
Either he retires or he gets his shit together this isnt the WWE for gods sake
Love your vides
The amount of excuses he gets and all the people saying he "needs help" is crazy. Zero accountability
The idea that because Draymond has a podcast that less than 5% of the population listens to means people aren’t sick of him is laughable. That person should genuinely feel ashamed they made that comment. Every time an athlete speaks on anything outside their sport, the shut up and dribble crowd catches a W. Cause these people can’t make coherent points. Even the ones who don’t have CTE lmao
Best Draymond video out yet. Ez Sub
Im getting ao fucking tired of shaq
Cant believe he had the audacity to defend draymond by saying rudy was choking klay
Its just gross
We don't need to ask what Draymond's career would look like if he weren't with Klay and Steph, because that's literally just Dillon Brooks.
“November 15th, this game was pivotal” I can’t dog 💀
Dumars: "Help this kid" WHAT?
A thirty four year old kid
Help him to keep Dumars on the Green family Christmas card mailing list, I guess.
Dumars is like 60+yo, most ppl are kids to him
Draymond acts like a kid so I guess it's fair.
I mean when someone is like 30 years older than you you'll always be a kid to them
He definately makes it hard to be a warriors fan.
i also hate the narrative that just bc you need therapy that means ur crazy. everyone at different points in life might need therapy
10:28 "I coulda had a concussion or anything" glad you take that into consideration with others
you don't have to be crazy to get counseling.. being emotionally uncontrollable is generally enough. problem is there are alot of nba fans who praise him for being that way and overlook these unsportsmanlike actions and those are the ppl that fuel his ego and drive him to be an entertainer over an athelete.
That short montage was hilarious
I’m glad someone else agrees with me on the annoyance of this man. He’s on the way out, and like any other idiot that is losing his touch, he has to get nasty and outrageous. Any other point in history we would turn away and he would fade into obscurity. Look at Albert Belle. Jeff George. Vontaze Burfect. Richie Incognito. Instead Draymond just gets this inexplicable pass.
The guy is calculating and does these things to make himself relevant and stay in the algorithms that run our lives. Other people are figuring it out as well. Just ask Kat Williams. Frankly, I’m just bored of this guy, just like I have been bored of the NBA for years.
This is a great piece and I'm not just saying that because you casually through in "kerfuffle".
He fit right in with the bad boy pitons 😂
*Draymond-* Don’t you know what I’ve done?
*Kratos-* YES, but what would you do now?
1:30 Jordan Poole would like a word, Mr. Green
The media needs to stop coudling* Draymond or he'll never grow up
Draymond decides what he meant to do after he did it.
A video like this is long overdue. Draymond is probably the most protected player I have ever seen for his antics and yet he's not even good.
Draymond Green is the greatest wrestler in NBA history
Wrestler actually try *not* to hurt you.. 😂
Draymond ain’t ever had his ass whooped , that’s it
Tooforwon u the goat 🐐
CHUCK stop chuckling , Draymond is a menace IT IS NOT A JOKE ANYMORE
If draymond does anything else the nba should get rid of technical fouls, flagrant fouls and bring back early 90s or early 2000s nba rules
I still can't believe than Draymond Green got a documentary for punching Poole
An apology isn't an apology if nothing changes
God, that snippet with Colin Cowherd talking about what we want our athletes to be at 12:27 is so perfect. Completely and fundamentally misunderstands the aversion to the 'shut up and dribble' argument. No, we don't all want our athletes to be "politicians" or have "big opinions". What we want is for our athletes to be RELATABLE and UNDERSTANDING. To be able to appreciate the positions they are in that is bolstered by our continuous support of them. That does not at all require athletes to be a politician or have big opinions. All it requires of them is to be decent fucking human beings for christ's sake, lol.
Draymond Green, the warriors and Steve Kerr are everything that’s wrong with the NBA today.
I fucking hate Draymond Green. And that will never change. This just increased the level that much more.