"Object of Plunder: The Congo through the Centuries" by Adam Hochschild

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  • Lecture by Adam Hochschild, University of California, Berkeley
    March 16, 2014
    Getty Center
    Journalist, historian, and author of "King Leopold's Ghost" Adam Hochschild (UC Berkeley) traces the history of the Congo as it emerges from photographs, cartoons, posters, and documents. He details the 19th-century colonial exploration and exploitation of the Congo under the infamous King Leopold II of Belgium and discusses the repercussions of his regime.
    For more about this event, visit the Getty Research Institute's website: www.getty.edu/research/exhibit...
    This lecture series complements the exhibition "Connecting Seas: A Visual History of Discoveries and Encounters," on view in the Getty Research Institute galleries from December 7, 2013, to April 13, 2014. www.getty.edu/research/exhibit...

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  • @elikyaa
    @elikyaa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Regardless of everything, I do think that we will achieve peace and prosper. We are 80 million people. If we unite, we could definitely bring change. Thank you Hochschild for bringing attention to this.

    • @queenestherc-squared802
      @queenestherc-squared802 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully we will unite ASAP! I'm tired of al the ongoing jazz

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      80 million people will never agree on everything, all you need is people willing to pit people against each other over those things that can't be agreed upon and there you go, the world as we know it.

    • @stevrgrs
      @stevrgrs 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why does any of this really matter?
      It’s all a story whether it’s real or not.
      Find peace in yourself and be kind to others. Forget past wrongs and live in the present. That’s the best advice any of us can live by :)

  • @timypaul
    @timypaul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Greed, jealousy engendering war and plunder over and over in many decades, us Congolese are scattered around the world in search of a better life while if the world was not this unfair we would thrive in the Congo and make it a super power with all of the natural resources. Ore, cobalt, uranium, diamond you name it we have it. Lachrymosity is all that is left in our hearts.

  • @giovanameireles4576
    @giovanameireles4576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful, amazing

  • @blindsheep6180
    @blindsheep6180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Remember Roger casement who did his best to expose the horrors of King leopold. An Irishman who fought man's worst voices around the world eventually sacrifing his life for Irish freedom when he was executed by colonial Britain.
    Free Congo now from western European & US exploitation which is still occurring today not through nation States but private corporations.

  • @monakw
    @monakw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm in the middle of ANOTHER reading of Joseph Conrad ~ Heart of Darkness.I'm looking forward to listening to this lecture..thanks for posting it.

  • @lokeshthebeast
    @lokeshthebeast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Congolese women speaking up is so heartbreaking. Thank you for a such a powerful presentation

  • @victormpapuluu6497
    @victormpapuluu6497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In kiswahili we have a saying",siku ya nyani kufa, miti Zote huteleza."(in the day of death of the monkey all the trees are slippery.)
    Nothing unjust lasts for eternity. Only just work will last for eternity.

  • @tendressemessa1873
    @tendressemessa1873 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Did he just say the Congo River was the 2nd largest in the world? He must of been nervous - Loved the presentation!

    • @unguja64
      @unguja64 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, I scratched my head also. But, yes, he's correct. Its the 2nd largest - after the Amazon, in terms of "volume of water carried" - not length.

    • @patrickandries7412
      @patrickandries7412 ปีที่แล้ว

      He tends to be very loose with facts.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@patrickandries7412
      Yep, like saying the colonizers of King Leopold had machineguns, they did not, they hadn't been developed yet in the mid 1800's when this was going on, they weren't perfected and in use until just after 1900 and even then the early one's were heavy, cumbersome liquid cooled devices fired from a tripod that were only used on established battlefields and wouldn't have been carried by Europeans slogging through the jungle, true man portable machineguns weren't developed until WW1 and even then only saw limited use towards the end.

  • @Z95HeadHunter
    @Z95HeadHunter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    watched this in class after reading the book 'Things Fall Apart' which I highly recommend, it's a great story. Much better than "The Heart of Darkness" the Heart of Darkness was an absolute grind to read and a strain on the eyes by comparison.

  • @monakw
    @monakw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very moving near the end when a woman from the Congo speaks...tho a bit disappointed by an almost nifty, shifty reply from the speaker ..YES WHY NOT PEACE IN THE CONGO!?

  • @tayomcnulty7017
    @tayomcnulty7017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone know if there is a transcript of this lecture available?

  • @fredhuybens2783
    @fredhuybens2783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Leopold said: 'Petit pays, petit esprit' and not as quoted 'Petit pays, petites gens' which makes no sense.

    • @radnasirhill
      @radnasirhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what a stupid load of made-up stories, by so-called historian. Stupid.

    • @radnasirhill
      @radnasirhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will, just for you. Happy now? You blind follower.

  • @catdaddy3302
    @catdaddy3302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Conrad’s book, Heart Of Darkness, is a wonderful book. “Mistah Kurtz, he dead.”

  • @CalienteDesign
    @CalienteDesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can volunteers assist with English and producing video interviews in English?

  • @WellHelloThere1
    @WellHelloThere1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the great video.

  • @BROTHERARTMUSICArturoJCastro
    @BROTHERARTMUSICArturoJCastro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    An excellent teaching as we continue to see just how much America was also involved with the horrors inflicted upon African humanity. God will ultimately judge each and everyone of these iconic Devils.

    • @napoleonsparis2058
      @napoleonsparis2058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not quickly enough.

    • @JackAShepherd
      @JackAShepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're not wrong but when did Hochschild mention America in this lecture? He mentioned the US in the context of American (and other) missionaries trying to draw attention to the atrocities in Congo, and also in US support of Mobutu. This is mostly about Belgium!

    • @radnasirhill
      @radnasirhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackAShepherd US was at the Berlins conference to support Belgium with their colonial plans after slavery was abolished in the US they hide behind a smokescreen called Belgian king and enjoyed the rubber and other goodies. And this wasn't a lecture but some sort of Harry Potters kind of twisted fantasies of one old man.

    • @thierrycoxyde-ping-3065
      @thierrycoxyde-ping-3065 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a part of the True, À part of propoganda.
      20 million losses on 10 million People is not possible and based on estimation, i can tell all about it with good sources.

    • @thierrycoxyde-ping-3065
      @thierrycoxyde-ping-3065 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thé abolition of slavery was different in different country, last was Brasil wih the Portugees. Thete was not slavery in belguin Congo.

  • @RhondaWimmOfficial
    @RhondaWimmOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah

  • @ayeitsnhi
    @ayeitsnhi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was watching Diy videos how did I get here

  • @lomolongoshosola713
    @lomolongoshosola713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This makes me mad omg, what kind of people would see wealth as happiness? Why not trade knowledge and recognize that those people were HUMAN! Thats so sad man... it really is.

    • @radnasirhill
      @radnasirhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You may ask this question to your local African slave dealers, they invented the game in the first place.

    • @lomolongoshosola713
      @lomolongoshosola713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@radnasirhill naw, it was a difference in hierarchy not humanity.

    • @radnasirhill
      @radnasirhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lomolongoshosola713 No my friend slavery was sold to white people by your African salesman, they have been doing it for centuries and the fact that the white man took it to the next level is undeniable and really shows that there is no racial difference between people some cunts will trade people for money on both sides, but let's take the romantic films out of this[Amistad or Bloody diamonds,or 12 years of slavery and so on]there was very few freed slaves really rushing back to Africa and I think that the main reason was the fear to be resold [recycled] on their return and shipped to another place on earth straight away. Don't try to twist it. I'm not taking part. Neither in Africans nor slave loving Europeans are better or worst they are luckily almost all dead today , I'm just trying to call things by correct names and terms. There are slaves in Africa even today and there are slaves in Europe even today not all things are cushty but everybody should start from cleaning up his bedroom or sweep up his porch or what is the right term and after finishing that there will be no messy porch or bedroom to point at. Do you get it pa? Take care. One more thing, did you know that the current head of EU that skinny woman grand grandmother was a slaveowners wife down south in the USA and her father was from a long line of cotton trader families in Germany not sure now, her father was a German top politician in late 90ties. Did you know that? Basically, slave owners kids, have replaced Nazies in Germany after WWII and now their kids are getting the top job in the EU and that is the reason why they telling these shit twisted stories about one man who never set his foot on African soil, who is allegedly responsible for 10 million lives. How is that possible, did he killed them over the internet? And that video is university material, amazing education in the US they got. Cock and bull stories on history lessons.

  • @KahurangiSteez
    @KahurangiSteez ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wonder whether mass production of cars would have taken off without the influx of cheap rubber from the congo

  • @carolanande1355
    @carolanande1355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am sorry what is needed is not just a government by the people. What is needed is Repatriation....For heavens sake how does centuries of abuse leave a sane people. Europe USA has a responsibility to repatriate and do so responsibily that it reaches the people.!

    • @JackAShepherd
      @JackAShepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that's up to the African-descended folks who're citizens of Western countries... Forced repatriation doesn't sound super humane

  • @hollhtohlk3884
    @hollhtohlk3884 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a researcher and a historian his storytelling might be off putting but for a casual reader like me his books are enjoyable.

  • @rutonde
    @rutonde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s astounding how that dude lies in such a glib manner. As if his claims go without saying and don’t need to be supported by any facts. Just state ‘em and that’s that!

    • @JackAShepherd
      @JackAShepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's one of the world's foremost experts on colonial Congo. He's not saying anything that anyone but some weird, hyperconservative Belgian nationalists might disagree with. But please, TH-cam Rando, enlighten us with your superior expertise...

    • @JackAShepherd
      @JackAShepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Supported by facts"... Have you even read King Leopold's Ghost? I have. It's got a massive bibliography.

    • @radnasirhill
      @radnasirhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackAShepherd Expert senile idiotic sellout how we calling him. The guy is a walking cover-up.

    • @immortalituss
      @immortalituss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JackAShepherd his book is mostly based on older work by daniel vangroenweghe, jules marchal and jan vansina, three belgian historians. But its not without criticism. The 10 million number has since been shown to be wrong for instance.

    •  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      History is repleted with facts but since one's humanity if often overshadowed with greed and disdain, coupled with the devilish nature of many simply can't and refuse to see the humanity in others. I suspect that you, similiar of many of yesteryear and present much prefer to deny history. Not surprising.

  • @jeffreyvandenbroeck7196
    @jeffreyvandenbroeck7196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What our King did in Congo is terrible and in a fair world he should indeed have been convicted for crimes against humanity and as a Belgian I would like to apoligize to the People of Congo. On the other side Leopold II made Belgium the rich country it (still) is so as a people we still feel like we should be grateful for that. (i know it is wrong) But in the 60'ties we were doing good things in the Congo mainly for us but more and more also for the people of Congo. Of 1 thing I am sure. If we had stayed togheter we would have been a world power with wealth and equal rights for all.

    • @Bazompora
      @Bazompora 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What good has our little Belgium done for the DRC since the 60's? Was it the Katanga Secession? Was it conspiring with the Americans to assassinate Lumumba? Was it ultimately turning to Mobutu? Was it forcing power sharing with Nkunda (wanted warlord) and Ntaganda (convicted warlord)? Was it openly backing Bemba (another warlord), before recognising J. Kabila's coup dynasty for president? Was it conspiring with J. Kabila to install Tshisekedi as a shared puppet ruler?

    • @radnasirhill
      @radnasirhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you loved and you still do love your great king for being able to make this childish story about his great power and in the nighttime, Belgians are checking brilliants at the candlelight, brought home by a grandfather from Congo.

    • @ntsikimaz3322
      @ntsikimaz3322 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol so you're still defending his demonic history 😂 ay

  • @d.davidkabasela2711
    @d.davidkabasela2711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where this intelligence come from...?

  • @OG_SKULLY
    @OG_SKULLY ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG. What a curriculum 🫢

  • @tedsonkabiru4349
    @tedsonkabiru4349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This should make you retrace your origin as a black person overseas and return home. That was where your ancestors wanted you to live and experience your life.
    And they were forced to move abroad. Which they never wanted to.

  • @commando2113
    @commando2113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do they allways say king of belgium the king is king of the belgian's not from belgium the king does not own belgium

  • @christiaanhoekstra6053
    @christiaanhoekstra6053 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Congo should name, the formerly known Leopoldville, now Kinshasha, Morelplace

    • @smilinder01
      @smilinder01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Christiaan Hoekstra No - city of Lumumba, enough of white saviorism, especially those who personally and nationally profited, without reparations.

  • @nickyapenahier9214
    @nickyapenahier9214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How do i trust a Rothchild to talk about Congo 🤦🏾‍♂️??

    • @honestguy7764
      @honestguy7764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont know, but, hey to try a to trust a Hochschild like this guy. You know, Rothschild family ususally does nothing to do wit ethnology.

    • @geoffreyembasa8483
      @geoffreyembasa8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This a general African experience not limited to Congo even us in East Africa.Up to date.Nothing has changed much today.The guy says it as it is

    • @JackAShepherd
      @JackAShepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong surname but thanks for letting the Comments section know you're an antisemite and a moron 👏

    • @radnasirhill
      @radnasirhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@honestguy7764 What ethnology? Do you got the same name for slavery and ethnology? God save us.

    • @zakiyabambozzle2933
      @zakiyabambozzle2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get that antisemitism away from here

  • @RealBonnieBlue
    @RealBonnieBlue 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    King Hochschild's hoax is better

  • @fringeelements
    @fringeelements 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This guy just can't stop lying.

    • @Wurzelbinder
      @Wurzelbinder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      At which Point?

    • @felixndayisdebologne9725
      @felixndayisdebologne9725 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You will never get an answer !

    • @geoffreyembasa8483
      @geoffreyembasa8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      From the African point of view he seems to have gathered most of his facts from the ground.In East Africa we underwent almost a similar experience as a result of the confederancy b/w the Portuguese and Arabs.Ultimately the britons

    • @lomolongoshosola713
      @lomolongoshosola713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how is he lying? Is he not tell the whole truth about what happened? Or is Lying about it happeneing?

    • @khubza8999
      @khubza8999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't yours a willfull ignorance?

  • @MagicRyanM
    @MagicRyanM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Professional liar.

    • @presidenterdoganmaleprosti3071
      @presidenterdoganmaleprosti3071 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree. Christians have committed by far the most genocides.

    • @DCM88
      @DCM88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oddvar Stallemo you wordship a jew nailed to a cross, not the archetypes of the true Gods your pagan ancestors lived by.

    • @marielaveau6362
      @marielaveau6362 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Oddvar Stallemo stop lying! They were forced by Leopolds men to do these things, period.

    • @geoffreyembasa8483
      @geoffreyembasa8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Oddvar Stallemo Africans by nature are a clan oriented people.Its against every cultural code to enslave, exploit or kill a brother.That one invites curses.The communal Sense is so strong unless overrun by a strange system

    • @geoffreyembasa8483
      @geoffreyembasa8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Oddvar Stallemo Most missionaries had nothing to do with the mess in Africa.They were simply outran by their bigger, insidious govt agenda.

  • @MrSimonetbenoit
    @MrSimonetbenoit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A little easy to point out only all the bad stuff...what about asking the ones living in Congo nowadays if it's better? How come they are begging mean whites to come back? Please do inform yourself and make your own opinion.

    • @maris2200
      @maris2200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      MrSimonetbenoit You are no better than your fellow devil Leopold. Beg yourself. No one needs your wickedness. U never left Congo idiot.

    • @JackAShepherd
      @JackAShepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All they talk about in Africa is Africa For Africans, pan-Africanism, kicking out all foreigners (especially the Chinese) who continue to plunder their resources. Those voices are coming from inside your head -- not from Africa.
      But I like how you managed to both-sides a crime against humanity! Why does every film, lecture, documentary about the Holocaust only point out all the bad stuff, right?
      But perhaps my favorite part of this awesome comment is your implication that you, Random TH-cam Troll, know more about this topic -- re: "Please do inform yourself" -- than one of the foremost experts in colonial Congo 👌🏻