SNES Cartridge ROM Swap - Mega Man X2 - Fixing Ebay Junk
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มี.ค. 2020
- I bought a bundle with a broken Mega Man X2 and a Rockman X2 cartridge. The Mega Man board was shot, but the ROM chip could be swapped to the good board to complete the repair.
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You should fix that board. X2 has a coprocessor. So it's worth saving.
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Swap the Lockout chip regardles
Megaman/Rockman has stealth AP which will make you loose health if u climb walls and many other things which make the game unplayable so Swap it
And you could save the Rockman cartrige by ordering a reproduction pcb (they are like 5$)
Kyugi Yeneku Hmmm... I playing european one on sfc using action replay mega key and don’t get that effect. That kinda strange.
@@bubsy3861
EU consoles are 60% diffrent then NTSC ones
Plus Action replay...
You could try a welder's third hand to hold that chip in place
I have an N64 that doesn't work. I'd send it to you to repair if I had your address. Sell it keep it, whatever you'd like.
Thankfully, even missing out on some of the story dialogue isn't too terrible a loss.
All you really need to know is: "There are bad guys, and Mega Man X needs to shoot them."
It makes perfect sense when I see you do this. If I read instructions somewhere I would probably never attempt this. I've been on a retro restoration kick while under quarantine here 😆
Swap the Lockout chip regardles
Megaman/Rockman has stealth AP which will make you loose health if u climb walls and many other things which make the game unplayable so Swap it
And you could save the Rockman cartrige by ordering a reproduction pcb (they are like 5$)
as far as i know the japanese and the north american consoles have the same lockout chip. would be different if he had an european console like i have.
Now I know who bought that ebay listing. :)
:D
damn... they really burned those contacts up 😂
I had a similar issue with missing pads on a gameboy cartride. It s possible to epoxy in some new pads and solder them up(heat resistant epoxy makes it alot easier). Has worked for 60+ hours of playtime and still works.
Ok, finished watching, this is brilliant. Any way to save rare and desirable cartridges is the way to go! Keep up the great work :)
The yellowing is mostly not due to UV but to a chemical compound (Bromine) which was used as fire retardant, for the ABS plastic used for shells. With time, this chemical compound reacts with heat and cause the yellowing. So for old items stocked in attics instead of cellar (with more moderate temperature), you end with yellow plastic.
The reason why half the shell here is not yellowing, is because shells were not made in the same production plants which used differents chemical formula.
Well documented and well done as always. Thank you sir!
Awesome work. You make repairing games look so easy!
Watching your videos made me go buy a whole solder iron kit. Love the videos and how you show us how to fix different things.
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Nice! Have fun with it!
Love retro repairs I watch it with my 7 year old boy it’s awesome
This was brilliant. Loved it.
Glad to see a new video! Wish i could reach you by email. Ive got an interesting issue with some ps3 controllers that i cant really find any information on. Im really hoping i could get them to you. Im sure the ps3 community will be grateful. Im still looking forward to a part 3 on the sharp Famicom
would love to see you retrobright the shell too
A little worried about ruining the label, I'll look into a way to try and do that though
@@RetroRepairs at the channel ODD Thinkering he is using a nice way to de-yellowing plastc and he doesn't hurt the labels. It looks great everytime.
@@TheSkaldenmettrunk he submerges it in hydrogen peroxide. That would definitely ruin a paper label.
@@FranktheTank319 hmm.. N64 labels survived this I thought. I don't know.
@@TheSkaldenmettrunk I don't remember seeing him do an N64 game, but he did recently do a gameboy advance. The label isn't paper, though, so that one was fine.
Since I’m stuck in my house with nothing to do. Was so glad to see you posted a new vid! You make using desoldering braid look so easy. I fight mine every time! Can’t wait for the next vid!
I used to fight with mine. I used a cheap Nexxtech brand stuff in the past, and it was awful. I got some name brand stuff now (MG Chemicals) and if needed, use a bit of flux and it works way better. If you still struggle with it, try a better quality braid, it honestly makes the job so much easier.
Really educational, thanks for the video
Hi im from the Netherlands.
I really love your videos Adam, and learning stuff and such a pleasant Canadian accent.
Just wanted to say it once.
Keep going!
Awesome as always !. Oh Canada 🇨🇦. Please be safe
Great video dude really enjoyed it
I've never heard of a SNES game needing the CIC replaced between Japanese and American consoles. I'm positive it only needs swapping when mixing NTSC and PAL together. (the CIC could possibly matter when chip-swapping on N64, which used multiple CICs per TV type as a copy-protection measure, but still otherwise used the same lockout idea as SNES)
Have hundreds of SFC carts and those I tried worked on the modded slot SNES (including some games with enhancement chips, which I imagine will fail in various ways when used on an adapter or cheat device that doesn't connect the extra pins). The one game I saw failed was when I borrowed a prototype cart from someone on the Internet and determined it was a PAL cart by the CIC part number (which isn't "9447", that's the manufacture date code), though the PCB didn't want to fit in a SFC cart shell like I expected it should.)
Hmmm I wonder, I have a Super Famicom and currently play games off a everdrive, but bought some PAL and US NTSC games a few months ago that I wanted to try but assumed I needed a Super Famicom game in the import adapter I had.
Usntsc and japntsc games will play just fine.
Pal games may play at a different speed due to 50hz vs 60hz
I have layed pins/pads back on the board! Very frustrating but possible!
Great! Mega man lives. Great Video.
Man this is too cool!!! $100 for a copy of X2?! So glad I still have my old copies of X & X2, X is my all time favorite game. Love these videos man, been inspiring me to mess around with fixing my old stuff( I have a few PS2s & a Retron & Genesis 3 I'm tinkering with). The Retron had the OEM SNES & Genesis controller ports wired backwards so it's been interesting.
I ordered some replacement boards for like $5 each. They are technically after market designs but they are made with quality in mind. I bought a lot of "broken/not working" snes games on ebay. Paid about $2/each and it included earthbound. Tons of broken traces and halfass solder work. I just transplanted the chips onto the new boards and got all except 1 to work. 31 games for working for under $100. No complaints here
i love your videos, i am also a technician and i would like to know that ebay sellers are trustworthy, i made several purchases and none of them arrived or did not arrive in brazil. thanks for showing these wonders come back to life
My favorite game series, MegaMan X
That's pretty badass dude.
love your videos!
Wow! That was cool.
I recently bought a Super Famicom off eBay, and am looking to swap the North American cartridge boards to Super Famicom cartridge shells.
I've always found adding solder once the chip is down to be far more effective as im not fighting the hump made by the solder.
Exactly. Adding the solder to the corners just makes align the chip a pain, as demonstrated. All that is achieved is that the chip now sits on sloped hills wanting to slide off instead of resting nicely and stable on a nice clean flat surface. Other than that - nice video.
Great video! :)
You're my hero dude...
great job!
I'm pretty sure this was the first video of yours I've seen, where one of the parts was genuinely dead on arrival.
I'm always curious to see your camera mount setup. It seems you don't have a lot of space to work with but always center in on the action.
MAD SKILLS !!!
As a lover of SFC games, it was hard for me to watch you ruin a pristine copy of Rockman X2 in favor of a cracked/yellowed copy of Megaman X2. Is there no other donor PCB you could have used to do a full chip swap?
I see some slowdown with the end result on the intro but it's still playable
We need another video fixing the burned pcb and restoring the cartidge's gray (also you can print a new label on glossy sticker paper).
If you have some time, play the game and confirm if it's playable. Awesome videos.
Can you use the capcom chip for another board with out using the same chips? Im just curious if it would work or what it would do.
I fixed a radios CD player by reflowing some of the solder thanks to you videos. It's working perfectly now.
There was some kind of green fungus ball growing from the solder, any ideas what it could have been? It definitely looked organic
Great to hear, and i have no idea, that seems odd. Possibly it's corrosion, but if you say it looks organic, i have no idea
You can swap the plastic shell also mate, you just need a blow dryer, be very patient and gentle, and the sticker will easily come off and you can transfer it to another shell.
I recently found that acetone does an amazing job on PCBs, especially when the board has a lot of sticky flux.
Just make sure there is no plastic on the board. Acetone can melt some kinds of plastic. A game cartridge shouldn't have any but a gameboy motherboard will have plastic for the cartridge connector and the volume and contrast wheels.
@@chamoo232 great addition. Don't be me and drop your ipa and while trying to pick it up spill your acetone...boy that was fun. I remember to cap it now hahaha. But yes gotta be careful where you put it and how much. In most situations ipa is the way to go
When I got my Super Nintendo for my 14th birthday last year I found out that it was modded to play Japanese games
American SNES can read perfectly Japanese games (both are NTSC), but if you are from a PAL country, you are a lucky man.
@@pablor2658 It can read them but the cartridge won't fit unless you cut out 2 little plastic tabs inside the slot. That must be the mod he is talking about.
I have heard several youtubers warn about heating chips too much with something like a hot air gun and doing damage to them - have you ever actually seen that happen? BTW, thank you for demo'ing drag soldering. I've seen it before from other youtubers, but it's cool to see different people demo'ing it.
I haven't done it myself, but it definitely is a thing. They're reasonably resilliant, but if you pointed hot air directly on the chip for a while you could mess it up.
Often it's better to use more heat for a shorter time than less heat for longer. That was the problem with the first chip i removed. I only had my gun at 360 and it wasnt moving (melting point of 60/40 solder is about 370). Upped it to 400 and the process worked much quicker
hey retro repairs, ive gotten into cartridge and console repair from watching your videos and other channels with similar content, i recently got my game bits and started working on my own personal n64 collection making sure everything is cleaned and not rusted. i suspect my copy of mario party 2 is a fake i was wondering if youve seen different versions of the board or might have any sample images that i could refrence off of. ive checkd around google images and other sites and cant find a good source.
This isn't a complete resource, but check the board # against the numbers here and see if it looks similar:
tcsr2001.tripod.com/carts/
I'm not 100% positive, but I believe this is the board that should be in Mario Party 2:
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Man I've been so out of luck on finding ebay sales to fix games like you have. What do you search man cause I'm stuck and can't find anything.
I can program new eeproms with the English game and swap the chips in this way to convert rockman X2 to mega man X2 and X3 to X3 correct?
How do you mount your camera above your work mat?
I hear theres a easter egg in MegaMan X2 where if you press and hold start in the second controller while the game is booting you see like a status check on the special ship, but not sure if that true
You’d be surprised if I didn’t comment on this. ❤️ PS: Fix It Phil took the region lockout tabs off mine!
Well. Talking about pricing. When I start up collecting 16 bit games I was shocked by price differences. Now I have 100 + SFC games, super scope, mouse, satllaview modem, original game rag and for money that I spend for in I can buy only ~10 good USA games. (That I still have on sfc and Metroid have English anyway))
Chrono Trigger can be 150$ for the US version... Super Famicom one... 20$... or 30$ with the box.
chamoo232 I have 3 triggers. Got it in 40$ box of "junk games" that I buy on yahoo auction. 34 games for 40$.
Out of curiosity, how do you search for these games? I'm having a really hard time finding games like this in broken state
There's not many. Sometimes i just get lucky. They go quickly, and people don't post broken games as often as they do broken consoles
what would happen if you only swapped one of the chips from each game like a rock man one in a mega man catridge
Is there no socket for those chips? I understand it's common practice that if you're going to unsolder a chip, you may as well put a socket back on in its place.
Ever try Chip Quik? Works great for removing smd chips
Hello man! I have a SNES Super Mario World Cartridge which is not savign progress, i have changed the battery, soldering it correctly, measuring its voltage, looking for broken traces and i have not made it to work, its there a way that you could tell me what could be wrong with it? Also, if you make a video i can send it to you so you can fix it! Thanks
I'd love to send you a Super Metroid I recently got from a buddy of mine. Maybe you can bring it back to life, seen better days.
Send me an email at retrorepairsca@gmail.com and let's chat!
Is there no way to replace the pins at all? if they are damaged or obliterated as is the case here
Not easily. Would be easier to replace the board. You can replate damaged ones, but plating is expensive and would only be worth it for high value games
Make a quick video retrobrighting it or replacing the front shell for us?
Altho I am all for salvaging rare games and fixing boards... I think you could have recreated the pcb pads. there are kits availeble. And from Japanese to USA... looks like a downgrade to me. but hey, you made a great video demonstrating romswapping done properly, so thats great :D
You should've bought a new board from Muramasa since you are keeping the game for yourself. Or you can fix the Japanese Rockman game with a new board since you have all the chips and sell it on E-bay. Include the burnt up board in the sale.
Is it possable to piggy pack the chip on top of each other with a switch to switch between both games..??
Technically yes, i guess that would be possible, but you'd need to do some serious rewiring to switch it
Quick question: why did you bother removing the solder from the broken board if you said it wasn't salvageable? Seems like you could have just left it to no ill effect.
So is it impossible to fix the pins without simply creating a new board?
It may be possible to adhere some sort of contact to the board, but the burns make it tricky. I'd question how long it would last
can you do this without a megaman X2 donor board?
Could possibly glue on some new pads with the proper glue.
just wondering, do you accept donations of broken games or know anyone who does? thank you!
Feel free to email me at retrorepairsca@gmail.com, i do sometimes
I love the work this guy does, but it frustrates me to no end watching him solder anything.
I've never seen a burnt pin like that. What could've caused that?
@Brandon Kick that's what I was thinking too.
Video was a little wobbly XD
I don't like soldering chips. I'm always afraid I'll join two pins and create a short.
Flux really helps with this. Just don't use too much solder. Make sure you inspect the chips before powering on as well for bridging.
It can certainly be intimidating at first, but honestly, good flux makes this job 100x easier
@@RetroRepairs I'll definitely have to try this. I may have been using minimal flux. I'll try adding more. Thanks!
Swapping chip swap language?
Chatacter Rom?
Why is the camera so wiggly??
Nice video. But I would have kept the Japanese version.
Im not throwing it away. I may try and see if those contacts are repairable, but the more valuable north American game gets the better board
Too bad it's not viable to try and re-trace the board and fix it.
That wibbly wobbly makes me think there's an earthquake.
Maybe there's a secondary mount for the sole purpose of support, to cut down on the shake?
By the way, I recently dug out my childhood snes and replaced the power port on it. When I boot up a game like Super Empire Strikes Back, I notice a bit of sprite glitching during the title card and demo gameplay, so I checked with SRotJedi, similar things were happening with it as well. The only thing I can think of is that something might be dying in the graphics department. A real shame, considering 2020 was going to be "repair all my old games and consoles". (Even got my ancient Xbox partially repaired, just sad there's hardly any documentation on how to proceed on my specific situation. So that's gonna have to sit there a bit and gather dust once more until people can try to get more research done, haha)
What do you look up on ebay to find broken game cartridges, because I never have any luck on ebay...
Usually, I just type in "broken _____" or "______ for parts or repair." You really have to be patient. People know what they have, so even broken stuff can be pretty expensive. The good deals are worth waiting for.
@@FranktheTank319 yeah that's what I do, but rarely anything is shows up.
@@TobuscusSkylander same for me. I was able to find a barely broken super nintendo in mint condition for $20 just by being patient. Also got a broken gameboy player basically free.
@@FranktheTank319 wow, thanks for the advice!
@@TobuscusSkylander you're welcome! Go get those deals. Lol
Its crazy to think this new generation of gamers will never be able to master fixing games from the last almost 20 years. Once disc is unreadable end of story.
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out of curiosity, why did you clean up the bad board? Might as well just leave it, right?
If i end up attempting to fix up the bad board, i don't want to have to clean it up later
@@RetroRepairs oh ok, cool.
How sad, they butchered that board!
I just want to say "Thank you!"
Your videos calm me while I'm at work, and prevent me from murdering my coworkers.
There are no components on back get a electric cooking pan set in pan pull chips or turn up air on station...
it would've been a much more interesting video if you repaired the traces on the broken one
Might be a future video still. I have to find a good way to reattach the Contacts
@@RetroRepairs that would be great. You should try thin brass foil and epoxy, might work well with metallic epoxy and also with CA glue.
There's a conductive edge card trace electronics tape you could get to fix the burned tabs. But I would never swap a Japanese ROM for a US release.
Im not using the japanese rom, I'm using the Japanese board
It’s a great job, but if you are moving it on eBay afterwards you’d have to do full disclosure and I think you’d struggle to get full price - people will definitely see it as tainted. For personal use, great idea of course :)
Wait how did you fit a super famicom cart into a SNES...I've never been able to do that...ive always had to use a converter.
I modified the inside to remove the plastic that blocks sfc carts
@@RetroRepairs perfect! Thanks so much for the reply.
Could you pretty please try to have the camera not wobble when you are zoomed in ? Maybe mount it from the floor ? Thank you so much.
I would really like the mega man games for Snes but unless you want to blow hundreds it’s not happening…
傳說的洛克人「ロックマン」骨灰遊戲卡匣變成沒嘎人「メガマン」
Original you mean
I'd just stick with Rockman. This isn't an RPG, so it's not like the text is that important.
Try it with just one corner. Flexes and stresses the chip less and it is easier when you aren't balancing it on tips of balls.
What they had in Japan instead of the Super Nintendo? Lmao that would be the other way round mate. The super nintendo is what everyone else got instead of the super famicom.
I have 3 suggestions.
First, please invest in a more stable camera mount. I was getting seasick watching this one. I don't mean to be rude, I love your videos, this one in particular was difficult visually.
Second, I know you mostly do repairs, but, restoration and refurbishment videos are really nice to watch as well. Consider doing refurbs on carts to make them like-new. There are replacement labels you can buy, if needed. Plus, you get more videos out of them.
Third, can we see a teardown and cleaning of that SNES?