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I still like to think that the first word spoken was "fuck", when a caveman stubbed his toe on a rock
Ok... You obviously do not know the meaning of the word Fuck. But I'm going to tell you. To Fuck means to, well, to have sex.
F.U.C.K. is derived from a seafaring term. It means "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" and it was written in a ship's log when (at the time) 2 men were engaged in a sexual relationship. It happened so often that the ship's master just started using the initials to save the trouble of writing it out. Just like the word "S.H.I.T.' also came from sailing ships. Again it is an abbreviation of "Ship High In Transit" and it referred to the practice of moving manure which was used for fertilizer aboard these ships. Ships frequently leaked and the practice of putting the manure where water could get to it allowed the manure to absorb the water and swell which could endanger the ship.
Fred elmendorf Actually, the idea that fuck stands for something, another one is "Fornication Under Consent of the King", is a falsity, the etymology of fuck is lost to the ages and no one is sure of it's origins
TheWolfHowling Today, it is a slang word meaning "To have sex with" but in others "brains it is a substitute for Darn, Dang, or Chyort Cykas!
Kasumi97 The word Fuck has multiple meanings, not just to have sexual intercourse with someone or something.
"Spitting worm" might be the oldest euphemism.
7 years later and still none of the much deserved love on this comment
@@willllawhun9455 atleast it now has 69 likes
Ganghis Khan and the resulting descendants 🙂
@@wnrr2696its up to 83 now.
Remember, "worm" historically meant not only a worm, but also a snake or a dragon. The fear of snakes is powerful in humans and many other animals, and is of survival value because some snakes are venomous. Therefore, it makes sense that this word, like the others, has survived for 15,000 years.
Most importantly, it also meant snake. (Snake is still = _orm,_ in Swedish.)
@@herrfriberger5 It can also mean snake in Norwegian. "Boa constrictor" is "buorm" in Norwegian.
What if it meant a dicc too?
wyrm, anyone?
i wouldnt trust this video lol
spit on worms = blooooooowjob
Fluf And Pals PUBG lmao
Fluf And Pals PUBG: Dayum that observation was insightful
You have an Oedipal complex sir.
XD
I accidentally clicked dislike on this thread just because I was laughing so hard as I was trying to like it. I fixed it.
"Someone from the Ice Age could understand a little bit of what you're saying, the same way when someone speaks a different language to you"
Well, after a very long linguistics degree I can only laugh at this pop science. Go back to some Old English (like 900 AD) and tell me how you do! Good luck!
Cameraman ikr! Lmao, gotta love Old English tho
Cameraman Lmao Shakespearean is already so hard to understand most of the time and that was in the 1500’s. Soooo, I’m gonna say no to this offer....
Melchior Magni yeah, especially when someone uses this in a sentence with a bunch of other words and nothing is spelled out so you don't know where one word ends and the other one begins.
Also, why couldn't it mean "feather"?
Cameraman Ic hycge þa ic ƿille! Bēo se þe gōd?
Melchior Magni you're throwing in a bunch of conditions which are not normally included in the word "understand" as applied to spoken language.
The most reliable way of demonstrating that two (or more) languages are related to each other is by the comparative method-basically, whenever language A has a /p/ sound, language B has an /f/ sound, for example. Finding individual words that are similar to each other in various languages is, by itself, insufficient evidence. For example, the word for 'sushi' is the same in English and Japanese, but you'd never accept that as evidence that these two languages are related-because this word was obviously borrowed. Languages also borrowed words in ancient times, and this is why comparing individual words to each other is insufficient-again, you need systematic sound correspondences. Proposing a proto-language based on just 15 words? Utter hogwash.
Although your point is valid, pronouns and other basic words are rarely borrowed because their part of the identity of a language. There are three possibilities to how these words got to be similar in these languages in my opinion :
1) coincidence, even if very unlikely, we must consider that consonants aren't enough alone, if two words have same consonants but radically different vowels which don't seem to be linked, we might find a case of coincidende.
2) borrowing, although I think it is unlikely, a a possibility is that several groups made their own pronouns, and they all switched pronouns and shared them when they were still new and not well established in the language. We might even have had a pronouns less language for a while (saying your name instead of I).
3)Although a pretty wild guess, maybe these pronouns developed independently in different languages, but all in the same pattern because our brain thinks they should sound like that (closer to the idea of genetically coded pronouns), making languages have their pronouns similar because their brains function the same way. Kinda the same way as papa and mama became so proeminent as names for mom and dad.
But yes, 15 words don't make a language
exactly what I was thinking, plus some of these words have other reasons to be similar, mom, mamá, mama, etc. are very easy to pronounce and babies usually pronounce them not knowing its a word, then the parents give that sound a meaning. For spitting, the word is very onomatopoeic in most languages, representing, at least partially, how it sounds when we are spitting. Having similarities in these words says absolutely nothing about their origins.
@@da4127 Yes! Very well stated!
@@da4127 Exactly, mama and papa are similar in many languages because the way babies learn is through imitation, and bilabial consonants are the easiest to imitate, because you can see them being pronounced. It is likely for thechild to pronounce that as their first word, and it is also likely for the parents to believe they are refering to them.
In the case of pronouns, this hypothesis would be closer to whorfianism, and it really is a hypothesis, because I know no scientific paper on the subject, but I still think it's an much likelier option than a monster language family
All of the words for "to spit" were onomatopoeia. Likely the reason that root word is still around.
Daniel thats what i thought
Daniel
The Thai and Chinese word for "cat" sounds like "meow"
+檀 杏斗 the word for meow is the same in every language. except for Japan. they say nyan. and Koreas is different too
shadowsinmymind9 Nyan is only an onomatopoeia in Japanese. Nobody over the age of 3 refers to animals by the sounds they make.
+空軍パイロット I know. I am talking about the onomatopoeia for meow, not the word for cat
Too bad Proto-Eurasiatic is highly discredited amongst linguists
I'm suspicious of it too, especially when if you look at African words they also appear to have the exact same cognates much of the time so why only the Eurasian ones?
@@jonstfrancis There are African language families with corresponding proto languages.
@@johnkelly3886 I'm sure there are.
It doesnt even make sense with the timeframe of genetics. Eurasian populations had diverged into clearly distinct groups by 15,000 BC, there's no way they would have had a common language
The word is in the thing.
"Somebody from the ice age would probably understand a little bit of what you're saying" False. The cognates would have changed phonetically so much that only a linguist would be able to establish that they're cognates after spending some time looking for sound correlations.
ok dwight
I personally like the isolated/non-Indo-European languages like Basque, Finnish, and my favourite: Georgian. The word for mother in almost every European language sounds like mother or mama. But in Georgian, mother is "deda". Even better, father is "mama". Pretty interesting stuff.
Dendy The fact that the words are reversed could have meant an early matriarchal society.
0011peace Possibly.
In Tamil, Amma = Mother; Appa = Father; Mama = Uncle; Papa = Child. In Hindi, Papa = Father.
In Finnish, the word for mama is äiti and for daddy, it is isä
DragoN 3 FTW Or djed
Spit is a common word in many languages because it is onomatopoetic. Since the action of spitting sounds the same in any language the word that comes from that action is similar in many languages.
If that were true, then you would think that it would start with a "t" not an "s". Unless you tend to drool down the front of yourself when you spit?
@@TerenceMichaelReeves You are dumb
Finnish is not a Germanic language and not even Indo-European :) Finnish is a Uralic language.
perkele
Vittu satana
Hipster Suomi.
Basque is not Indo- European
Yes, Uralic is part of this new "super language family" identified, which include: PIE, and , Altaic (whose modern members include Turkish, Uzbek and Mongolian); Chukchi-Kamchatkan (languages of far northeastern Siberia); Dravidian (languages of south India); Inuit-Yupik (Arctic languages); Kartvelian (Georgian and three related languages) and Uralic (Finnish, Hungarian and a few others). More details are at: www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/linguists-identify-15000-year-old-ultraconserved-words/2013/05/06/a02e3a14-b427-11e2-9a98-4be1688d7d84_story.html?.6bd0cf300aa5
Good video but the only thing you forgot to say is that the "EuroAsiatic" proto-language is rejected by most linguists. Linguists would say that the similarities between the "EuroAsiatic" languages" are too small to establish a connection, and using the same level of similarity that exists between the "EuroAsiatic" languages one could establish a connection between basically any family of languages
You summed up my problem with this video quite nicely, if I do say so myself.
Spit is onomatopoetic,
onomatopoeic*, but close enough.
Mihai-Ciprian Ghilinta both are correct
Onomybrainhurtopeic
So is piss
Spit is NOT onomatopoeic. There is no S-sound in it AT ALL.
Worms probably because fishing is really important
Or because it means the soil is healthy
Everyone knows that the worm is the first domesticated animal😉
Rather because they can eat you alive while you are sleeping.
LazyLizard you could give bread or even soap to fish
Mathias Eriksson agriculture
I've been studying Japanese for about three years and I haven't encountered a single word that I thought sounded like it came from a common origin as a word in English, except for hottdoggu of course.
DNews, at the risk of being crude:
*worm* => _penis_
*worm spit* => _"You can probably figure this one out."_
Quite possible. Nothing prevents ancient languages from having euphemisms
Yeah, we always had to pee. *grin*
There would be a number of onomatopoeic words like 'spit' and 'fart' and 'crack' etc, which are imitations of the way the actual thing sounds. These don't really point to a common root language but just would be due to similar methods of developing language.
And then there are other words that do...
Have you ever heard a fart in your life or do you live under a rock?
Actually, the word "fart" doesn't sound like sound of its word at all, in fact it sounds like "prrr..", "pfff.." or "fff". Depending on the fart of course.
So, where did you get that? You are talking out of your ass.
the reconstructed indo-european root is "perd". prrd. just like your "prrr". that word came into proto-germanic as fert, or something like that. that'd give us fart. so maybe our current word doesn't sound perfectly identical, but it originally did, thousands of years ago.
That doesn't explain the thousands of non-onomatopoetic ones.
The Real Flenuan never said it did, I said _a number of_ words. For that _number of_ words, it doesn't necessarily point to a common root. The example used in the video for "spit": they all sound a bit like someone spitting. I wasn't trying to debunk the idea of root languages.
Nacht is german for night. Nicht is also german but means no/not, so just because something sounds similar eg. Night/Nicht does not mean they have the same meaning.
Annika Dalley
And Nackt means naked .... again derived from wearing nothing
Annika Dalley actually not and nicht, and night/nacht do have the same origin and it is not because of the similarity but because of common germanic origin
I thought maybe he meant to say "nychta", the Greek word for night.
Nicht is Scots for night. This isn’t about German.
its not about the meaning, as the meaning for words change over time. Both English and modern German are Germanic languages, and Germanic languages themselves have been influenced by Latin with the roman occupation of Germanic tribes. Root words do not have to have the same meaning as the words that derive from them, so in your example of nicht meaning no/ not, a good thought may be that the Anglo-Saxon (of which English mainly derives from) version of nicht is náht, overtime with influence from outside languages náht in old English may have split into "no" from Latin influence and night from náht being anonymous with night due to the how no one was to go outside at night. Therefor Night did not evolve from modern German it evolved form Anglo-Saxon as it is a Germanic language at heart.
english - mom(mother)
hindi - ma
malayalam - amma
+vaisakh k swami and in British - mum
+vaisakh k swami and in British - mum
Malayalam is Dravidian language - first cry sound of child is become mother in all common all languages category
Spanish - ama or I guess for short (ma)
But Hungarian has "anyu" , mama is more used for grandmothers
worm = wyrm = dragon = very important to creation myth across many times and cultures, just a guess
The swedish word for snake is orm.
Sounds right.
Also, to spit could have something to do with insulting another person.
wyrm was used to describe both worms and snakes, and snakes were equated with dragons
dragon, like in "wyvern" ?
Worm equal dragon then and spit what do dragons spit thats right people fire dragon equal worm ancient than there used to be drsgons in the past 😱
What's interesting is that in most languages, Indo-European or not, the words for mom/mother all have some type of M sound. And for father, some type of V, P, F or B sound.
easy sounds for babies to make.
Wesley Vuong Otac is father in Serbian (and most of the Slavic languages)
Likely the words for "mom" and "dad" in the ancestor of all current languages were "mama" and "baba".
Mother in finnish is äiti and a older version of that is emo. Father in finnish is isä. Lol guess we are different
m and b (also n and d) are some of the earliest consonants babies make since those use their sucking muscles.
It's kind of stupid that he keeps bringing up the supposed importance of "spit" and "worm".
it's not stupid at all. you just need a better sense of humour. learning doesn't have to be cut and dry like in school
blueshift314 It's not funny, it's just stupid and irritating. If he said it once, that's fine, but he kept dragging on with such a stupid joke.
What is stupid is that you are too distracted by him repeating those words.
Think about why people have been saying "spit" and "worm" for 15000 years.
That was the intent.
Siege Perilous No, the intent was making a stupid joke that's not even funny.
I like your mask pyro. And your flamethrower.
Worm in Lithuanian kirmis (wrm - krm), To Spit - spjauti (spt - spjt) :) Continuing this it would be like:
Night - naktis, day - diena , cold - šaltas, water - vanduo, sit - sėdėti, stand - stovėti, to hear - girdėti, shout - šaukti, shoot - šauti, air - oras, light - lengvas, nightingale - lakštingala, apple - obuolys, brother (brolis), sister (sesuo, plural - seserys), anker - inkaras. son - sūnus, daughter - duktė (plural dukterys), war - karas. These are few cognates (far from all) with English. What about other Germanic, Slavic, Latin, Greek and Sanskrit/Hindi languages? Related to Lithuanian words would be: ugnis (fire), Dievas (God), duona (bread), medus (honey), tėvas (father), vyras (man , husband), moteris (woman), motė motina (mother), dantis (tooth), duona (bread), duoti (to give), imti (to take), šaka (branch), vemti (to vomit), ašis (axis), ištrauka (extraction), maišyti (to mix), gentis (tribe), giminė (relatives, extended family), mirtis (death), pilis (fortified settlement, castle), sapnas (dream), ašara (tear), traukti (pull), plunksna (feather), žemė (earth, ground, dirt, humus), žmogus (human), paukštis (bird), ašva, ašvienis (horse), antis (duck), ūdra (otter), bebras (beaver), elnias (elk), angis (snake), dūmas (smoke), platus (wide), siauras (narrow), vilkas (wolf), lūšis (lynx), šermuonėlis (ermine), paršas (pork), saulė (Sun), mėnuo (Moon, month), pėda (foot), pirštas (finger), akis (eye), ausis (ear), nosis (nose), alkūnė (elbow), kelis (knee), senelis (old man grandfather), sakyti (to say), išvydo (have seen), arti (to plough), pirmas (first), antras (second), trečias (third), šimtas (hundred), tūkstantis (thousand), šunys (dogs) - for this I used plural as in singular "n" drops out, in plural similarity often is more obvious, like here to Latin "canes". Not to mention colours and other numerals. So I guess it's time to stop as it becomes boring. You can check most of this and more on Swadesh lists.
Labas draugeli
Sveiks ir tau, brol!
There are three things I can come up with for the word spit:
1. It was fairly important to know what was edible in nature (by eating it) and what was it (spitting it out after trying). Taste was a big hint whether plants / berries could be eaten or not, thus detecting the danger of certain plants / berries, and spitting them out, was equally crucial.
2. Within various animal species, with the most known one the bird, the passing on of food to the babies is done by "spitting" your food out and giving the slightly digested food to the young. Perhaps this also played a role within people, as there were no pots of Gerber baby food 15,000 years ago.
3. "Spit" sounds very much like the action of spitting (just like "Piteeeeyou" or "Toup"), making it an onomatopoeia. Chances are, they were just making the sound of the action to get their point across.
...or human kind is just filled with assholes, that are obsessed with spitting on everything that could use a little topcoat of saliva. Who knows?
I can think of one more; the use of chewing and spitting to make alcoholic drinks. Seems disgusting but some old forms of making beverages used enzymes in saliva.
Its a wellknown fact that when ever the neandertals met eachother they always said *WAZZUP* !!
I've often wondered if it would be possible for a computer to analyze all known languages, and work back from them to revive an ancient, unknown language. I'd really like to hear how Og the caveman actually spoke.
Importance of worms??? Ummm... FISHING!!!!
I can actually see how spit might have made it so long. I mean it is pretty important to spit out something that could be poison.
a caveman would have no idea what you are trying to say by "spit". if it sounds so strange and different in many languages, i am sure that it did sound very different 15 k years ago :) english have changed a lot too, it is not likely that latin alphabetics would have been applied to english so differently from latin in pronounciation when it was introduced. also, please dont say english or german are latin languages. i reckon this is the most common misbelief among english people ever.
sirlujo I was thinking exactly the same
The only thing they have in common is that they are Indo-European. English and German are not otherwise related to Latin. They are Germanic languages and not descendant from Latin. They are from different branches meaning they are not in anyway "very much originating in Latin" as you put it.
English has been influenced by Latin of course throughout its history. Mainly from Norman. The influence is lexical in nature meaning English has borrowed words from other Romance languages. Let me reiterate, this does not mean English or German for that matter originate from Latin.
English is derived from German AND Latin.. Roughly half of the English lexicon is Latin derived and the same rough number from German. And both German and Latin have a common ancestor.
Of course the main difference between English and the other Euro languages is the fact it really has no Grammar Rules. Just Grammar Suggestions.
Actually, like TheCamouflageMonkey said the words people identify as coming from Latin in English are a result of the Norman invaders. It's pretty easy to see too since English kept the female gendered French spelling of these "Latin" words. For example decoration is "decoration" in french, decoratus in Latin.
Not true at all... it has lots of proper grammar rules... problem is, people don't follow them as much these days.
I think they left out one very old word that appears in various forms across a host of languages...Lilac. It can have more than one meaning in a particular language, like a color in English, but it also carries the meaning of "flower" in every language in which it's variation appears.
The idea of Eurasitic is often viewed as unlikely by linguists and many of the words can be loans or wanderwroten(Loans that travel long distance) or mere chance, at that time the regular sounds shifts are so complex and and irregular shifts more common so yeah it is hard to know. If we are lucky some of these can be genuine cognates. Hope compariative linguistics can learn more.
Worm, because no one bothers to change it.
Then why is it "gusano" in a related language like Spanish? It does change.
I wonder what people will think about "Do yu kno de wae" in 15.000 years.
It's true, dude! I can understand a few words of english, even though I live in the U.S. I wonder how long it would have taken for Britain and the U.S. to speak different languages, if mass communication had never developed past the printed word, and transportation past the steamship.
huh...
Michael Wotherspoon
I was mocking myself as a Californian, and Americans in general, because our version of English varies from the language as it is spoken in England. My attempt at humor failed and I feel shame.
How do people know this? Written language didn’t even come a thing until 3000 BC. It’s impossible to know how these people sounded back then. I can’t even understand Old English and that’s less than 1000 years old.
I think words like worm and spit are the same because we didnt use them. For example today we have words like happy that have a lot of synonyms like fun, joyful. Even today we create new expressions for the word "happy" like lel, lol, rofl. The things we dont use are only left to have one or two words that can explain them. But it's just my opinion.
Replace spit with kiss and your right
and of course is all about english language.
dezastruos
I wish I knew german. I'm tired of anglo-saxon society.
Well when your on an american site watching english videos not really much else to expect
English is the international language of business so why not?
One of these channels where they pride themselves with fast hipster speak...
15,000 years ago: Caveman looks at wild animal. "Lemme smash"
Present Day: Guy looks at wild female: "Lemme smash"
Find out the 15,000-Year-Old Words We Still Use today!
I noticed in the multiple versions of "spit" that it was very onomatopoeic. There may be something in that. Also, worms could have been extremely important to early humans, if you think about storing food and maintaining it in good condition. Whether meat had maggots or other food had worms in it, and how to prevent that would have been a daily, life or death issue. This is a really fascinating story.
Worm comes from Ormr which is Old Norse which comes from whatever language was spoken before that, which was most definitely mentioned in this video. ._:
DNews! there is a first language! well, the oldest actually! there are 3 Georgian (country) languages: iberiuli, megruli and svanuri (იბერიული, მეგრული და სვანური) witch are older then other but they are the oldest! lock in to it if you can!
Angutivik Casper Rúnur Tausen Hansen anglo-germanic
Elixz Emalius Proto-Germanic
15,000 years? Bible disproved....
People still believe in that shit...
So one expert say one thing, a second says another, and the third yet another. By your logic all disprove each other making all false.
urenda573 lol are you still believing Bible??
Hi, Catholic person from 3 years into the future, just saying that in the bible it says for God one day is to 1000 years, and the time used in the bible is from God's perspective, meaning, no the bible is not "disproved" and yes you are still an idiot.
urenda573 you're a moron!
How can one estimate the time scales? The oldest know alphabet is only about 6000 years old.
I am from India, I can understood a good amount of Sanskrit because we can take Sanskrit as a First Language here in India, So I understand some of the words from many Indo-European Languages like Farsi, Avesthi (Old Persian), Hebrew, Arabic, Russian, Danish & Scandinavian Languages.
That's not all, I find some common Sanskrit words even in Babylonian, Assyrian and Akkadian. My theory is that Ancient Indians were direct descendants of Akkadians who were themselves descendants of Sumerians. Just to prove this to you, I pick some random list of Sumerian King Names from Wikipedia (Never heard of these before now) and translate them for you in Indian language of Sanskrit :
Ur-Namma - Would have been pronounced Naama + Ur
Ur -> Town, Namma -> Praise -> "The King who was Praised by the Whole Town ???"
Shulgi - Would have been a combination of words Shul + Gi
Shul -> Spear, Gi -> Mountain -> "Mountain Spear ???"
Amar-Suena -
Amar -> Eternal, Suena is probably Sena -> "One who commands an Eternal Army ???"
You see what i mean. I can do this for Millions of Ancient Sumerian words. I wonder if Historians and Archaeologists have actually researched about this - A Link between Indian Language of Sanskrit and Ancient Sumerian !!!
Hello, my Caveman Brethren! Spit on the worm!
Maybe worm survived because we can eat them. Think about it, worms are virtually everywhere there is soil. Worms are high in protein and are not eaten by just us(humans). Now, I'm not sure how far back using worms as fishing bait goes, but maybe fishing bait raised the significance of the word. If I can use a small thing to potentially catch a bigger thing, I'd want to pass the word on.
I believe it would rather com from survival-needs.All of these words, if the were to linger, needed to be especially powerfull. Saying "Worms!" as in "you can eat this worm!" wouldn't be powerfull enough, because then we would have several truly ancient words for that conveying the same message: Words not on this list are after all not "Grain", "Beef", "chicken" or "pancakes". As to my point of survival, wll you can't eat meat infested with worms. So "Worms!" would be a powerfull message to convey as to not eat the meat at hand, if it was infested. As it would then be inedible. Well, that's my thoughts about it anyways...
Hey! We've thrown them in the video description. :) -Anthony
What's the evidence for protoeurasiatic? There was no writing back then.
we have 'Franglais' in Canada
He pronounces "noc" waaaaaay wrong.
Noc kurwa!
@Sir Ferius Fickle I its "nots"
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it's not about importance, it's about how well the sound fits the word. spit is an onomatopoeia, and worm, bark, hand, etc are just very simple sounds that describe simple things
"I spit on you". The original cuss phrase.
Speaking of language, further and farther are different words, have different meanings, and are not interchangeable. You'd think a science channel doing a video about language would get that right.
Spit
Spyt - danish.
Worm
Orm - danish.
we got the same name but mines pronounced different
...both danish and english are germanc languages......
In Greek baby talk that parents do (don't know if this family specific or used by most Greeks) when they tell the baby to eat they say "mum-mum" And I know in English we say "MMMMM" to indicate something is delicious so Mom, momma, etc must be a word that is an onomatopoeia that arises from breastfeeding? The mmmm sounds babies make when breastfeeding became the origin of mom (mother). The Dadda/poppa is may probably related to an onomatopoeia that arose from baby talk. If any word can be traced to the first human words it is probably these but even then it is iffy because these kinds of words may stop being used for generations (they use another word for mom etc for example) and then a population gets isolated and an onomatopoeia word like "mom" can again just be re-created (same sounds) just by onomatopoeia phenomenon and replace the other non-onomatopoeia word that was being used.
"There was probably a common ancestral language to all of them"
I wouldn't use the word "probably". In this video, it almost sounds like they discovered words on a tablet or something, which they didn't. They used the comparative method to reconstruct a language, like what we did for Proto-Italic and Proto-Indo-European. Basically, we compare languages and find correspondances between them, and try to reconstruct what it would look like in the ancestor language. However, that method is less and less reliable the further back in time we go. We managed to reconstruct languages like Proto-Italic and Proto-Indo-European out of ancient written languages, like Latin, Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, and Hittite, in the case of PIE. It's pretty reliable, but one must keep in mind a reconstruction is still just some sort of educated guess.
What those researchers did here is that they took many of those reconstructed languages and reconstructed words out of them. Here's the thing, though : Reconstructing languages out of reconstructed languages is... questionable, to say the least. Not to mention, in order to be reliable, you have to be able to establish clear connections between sounds and how they evolved into the sounds of daughter languages, in a systematic way (there are rules to sound changes), which I personally kind of doubt they managed to do with only 23 words... and even if they did, the results definitely should be taken with a big grain of salt.
And that's just my hot take on it, off the bat. Diving into their paper, I might find other things that would make me doubt even more. But I happen to know that Proto-Eurasiatic is, to say the least, highly disputed among historical linguists, so I probably won't bother, for the time being.
gahhh!! "noc" does not sound like "knock," it sounds like "notes."
+Tiffany Wilson Depends how you say it
+NotGoingCrazy thank goodness the internet is here to help. For the vast majority of languages with the word "noc," is is pronounced "notes."
forvo.com/word/noc/#ca
The language i speak from the roots come from germanic. Which a lot of European languages also has their origin from. And i am positive all the languages from germanic say it as "knock" and not "notes". The language I can think of that would say "notes" is english.
Did you even click on the link? "Noc" means "night" in most Slavic languages. I'm not making this up. What is your language, that has the word "noc," and pronounces it "knock" and it means "night?"
Catalan? Because that is in the link too.
If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me
not sure if making a nonsensical joke or just stupid
Old Toby LMAO
jesus spoke aramaic
darklight reaper and certainly hebrew and probably greek. And youd imagine enough latin to get by while writing 'romans go home' on pilates palace wall
Old Toby hahahaha
Linguistics doesn't recognize or approve "kartvelian" as an ancient language. Its status is a very disputable matter, but nowhere near to be ancient.
Irish:
Father - athair, daid, daidí
Mother - máthair, mam, mamaí
Grandfather - seanathair, athair mór, dadó/daideo
Grandmother - seanmháthair, máthair mhór, mamó/maimeo
I'm American but grew up calling my dad's parents 'Mamo and Dado' . Crazy to think Slavs also call their grandfather 'ded/deda/дед'
Mmm, tower of Babel just sounds more likely now
does it
Olga Svenselts yep
ethan midwell rewatch
No, that's retarded
nope, the video basically comes to that conclusion at the end. how did you miss that? they think it is likely that there is a mother language and a place it came from.
I am greek and I live in greek and I am proud of that and My mom is polish
You don't live inside a Greek; you live in Greece, and your mom isn't some kind of shoe or car polish; she is Polish.
Momsky.
Nice mom kurwa mać.
Tao Yanbao Lol, at least they tried their best.
I've driven through texas
maybe worms are significant due to their help in helping plants grow? i mean, arent earthworms used to improve the quality of the soil and help crops grow? also they can be used as bait to get bigger animals for eating
Spitting like any other act of expelling liquids, gasses, and solids is and always has been comic gold. I submit that ancient man's earliest forms of communication had fart jokes.
That's cool! But they forgot ... get, me, another, beer.
"Worm" is easy! Humanity originally migrated out of Africa along coasts on beaches. We've been living off of sea food for a long time... Bait?
Steve Breerwood Or food, worms are a good source of protein.
lol. When it cut, and and Anthony said "15,000 YEARS"! I got me kind of shocked, Anthony, you hyped, lol.
Since the world is only a little over 6,000 yrs, 15,000 yrs is impossible.
way too much conjecture.
Such as?
The end of the video hinted at how early words developed. They were the vocal phenomenon that went along with certain namable things. Maybe one of the best examples: anger. Just imagine someone being really angry and you can understand how this word came about ...
AAANNNNNGRRRRRRR!!!
*****
narrow, tight in German: "eng"
anger in German: "Ärger"(, "Wut")
When you feel anger, muscles contract.
It's very imprecise, but that's how certain influences act. Subtle down the evolutionary chain, yet profound at the root.
*****
WTF LOL. I swear I thought she meant "ARGH" until you pointed out "anger" hahaha
Dowlphin
Well PIE was before Anger so it doesn't matter what German has to say about it... That'd be like me quoting British English..
Juan Galan
Maybe you got it backwards, or at least too narrow-minded. Why do you think that sound got associated with narrow/tight/tied? Likely because there's the relation between contraction and anger that I pointed out. ... Unless there's a convincing claim that PIE for anger was and only was a very differently-sounding word.
Language development is quite associative.
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there are some basic words in Chinese sounds similar to English:
fly - 飞 fei (fay), fire - 火 huo (huwall) , flower - 花 hua(huwa or fah in some dialects)
board - 板 ban (baan) , flow - 流 liu ( "low" in some dialects ) ,use - 用 yong (yüwont )
Maybe because the act of spitting or expelling toxic or poisonous plants and vegetation is important to survival. The ability to tell another human that you see eating something bad for them to spit it out could mean the difference between life and death to an early society.
Thats so weird. In my language, Tf is our word for spit, and Im from Africa. So, Indo-Eurasiatic could possibly be linked to African languages as well.
***** Maybe because im not South African,,,,
It might just be that all these similar words for spit are based on the sound that spitting makes.
+Jamie Masters exactly.
+CPD XD101 So why would you assume...?
***** That doesn't follow.
look up Esperanto
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Bob Polzin. Esperanto is a constructed language rather than a natural language. It was invented by a man called L L Zamenhof. Its words come mainly from European language but are also constructed from smaller parts of the language. For example the word 'virino', meaning 'woman' comes from the Latin 'vir, viri' meaning 'man' as in adult human male, and Esperanto suffixes 'in' meaning 'female' and 'o' which indicates that a word is a noun.
"Spit" probably evolved early because of safety or warning about dangerous things. What is the first thing a toddler does? Put everything in it's mouth. If it puts a dangerous thing in it's mouth, you tell them to "spit". Same thing would work for dangerous plants, or known poisonous animals.
"Worm", was maybe because they are everywhere, or that they are easy to find and identify? Maybe "worm" meant that birds would come by soon, so ther would be easy prey?
15, 000 years is exaggaration but there are many words, which are 5,000-7,000 years old and maybe a bit older like "snow", "sister", "brother", "water", "wasp", "nose", "maus", "stay", "love", "slide" etc.
Spit is something we all have, worms are very common creatures. Perhaps they used spit to refer to many different bodily fluids other than just saliva. I mean it may sound gross but you can see sweat as skin spit, or blood as red spit, you can see snot as nose spit and tears as eye spit. As for worms perhaps they referred to snakes as worms as well, maybe worms were used as a food source.
I think there is a chance spit had different meanings, might have meant also "water" and "wet" and "pour out", thus "spit fire" might mean "get some water and put out fire with it"
lot of new words were created to differentiate strength or meaning of the word ( like vs love vs lust ). and sometimes one word can have different meanings, thus we have synonyms that differentiate those meanings, Bark is "yelpl" and Bark is "Tree Rind" or "Tree Skin"
worm was important in fishing, and might have taken also the connection to our modern word "bait"
I think the reason why spit was one of the first words was because of the gesture/act itself. When you spit you usually pronounce the words "tiff" or "tffi" or "tp-tp" if you do it multiple times as seen at the end of the video. So it was more of a gesture-turned-word. Like the made up words "pfft" and "meh" and "ugh". They are words that describe a certain gesture. Eh???
In croatian spit is "pljunuti", but we also use"ptuj"- "p/tuj" and "pljuc" whenwe want to demonstrate without actualy spiting... and in croatian to grab something we use "grabiti"
Reptiles used to be Alex predators, and were a primal force in our evolution. Makes sense that worm stayed the same seeing how interchangeable it is with snake.
Maybe it's because food is so important, and if there's something wrong with the food, we have to tell someone to spit it back out.
worms are important because we would have to collect them and use them for farming. This is because worms would make small tunnels that would help make topsoil softer and help irrigation to get to the roots
Okay I have a question. I can understand how people back then translate concrete words like fire, food, light, night, water, day to others who didn't speak their language. But, how in the world could they translate words that communicated feelings, ideas,less abstract words? Words like love, friendship, success, words with no picture to show some one?
I think the reason why worm is an unchanged word is because it can be used as a warning for worms in food. Similarly spit has health implications: don't spit here, don't spit in the food, go outside the cave to spit.
Is it possible that the words that have remained unchanged over 15,000 years only have been that way purely by circumstance?
I think the words for spit aren't cognates, they're just onomatopoeia. Onomatopoeic words are going to sound similar regardless of a language's relatedness because they're imitating the same sound. For example English "miaow" and Japanese "nya" don't sound similar because long ago English and Japanese descended from the same language and we decided to keep the word for the sound a cat makes, they sound similar because cats are making the same sound no matter what language their human is speaking to them. And similarly, no matter what language you speak, when you deliberately spit, you'll make the same sound because you have a human throat and mouth.
I am very sceptical of the theory of Proto Eurasiatic. Not that I don't think language could possibly have originated from one place, and I'm very much onboard with Proto-Indo-European. But I'm not convinced that these are Ultra-conserved words. Some of them, like spit, is just an onomatopoeia, so it could easily originate independently in many different languages. Some words like mother just sounds similar in many languages because it's based off of some of the first sounds that babies are able to make - once again, completely believable that they could develop independently. We really need more written evidence if we're going to say something conclusive about this, but it seems like we didn't write anything down this far back that has been preserved.
One thing I'm pretty sure that for thousands of years, 'mother' would always be the ultimate choice, when it comes to insulting.
If you are foraging for food one day with a child who presumably hasn't got the knowledge of what is safe and what is poisonous and they ate the wrong thing then you would probably instinctively want them to spit it out ..... So my guess would be something associated with that ......... Also , when mixing red ochre for making cave paintings .... The pigment would have been mixed by spitting into it ( or in some cases being spat over a hand on a cave wall thus leaving the hand shape surrounded by the red pigment) , so there's another possibility.
Worm in the past had a broader meaning then how it does now as wurm was a way of describing snakes and even dragons. Being that there is a common linguistic "fear of snakes" is traced through oral stories that might be why worm is so common.
worm was probably for fishing "give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish he'll eat for a lifetime" and for spit it would make sense to have to go back to find out what there habits were
Maybe they weren't vital ideas, but rather so unimportant that nobody bothered to change them.
Almost all civilizations originated near water which is why worms may have been important. Worms used at the end of spears could lure fish to the location and early humans could stab them with it.
They were just memeing on us from 15k years ago.
"Bro what words should we have people in the far future still use?"
"Idk, spit and worms."
Maybe worms used to be like 20 meters long and the only way to fight them off was by spitting on them?
LOL.
Saying we are using the same words we used 15,000 years ago is stretching belief. We have no writing from 8,000 years ago let alone 15,000. There are only so many sounds you can make and words are going to start to sound similar.
Did the writers of "Caveman" have any idea of what they were writing? Oool = food, paracca = fire, zugzug = ended up as zuvug in Hebrew. Who knows?
With the internet and the ability to send information from one side of the world to the other, it's only a matter of time before the whole world uses the same language.
not necessarily, English in the US for an example keeps on branching further and further apart and some estimates make the claim that within a few hundred years southern american English will be far enough away from northern american English to be recognized as a language, the same goes for British English. everywhere we go slang's are being used that are not common elsewhere and given enough time they will have a big effect on the language.
With globalists and the ability to send people from one side of the world to the other, it's only a matter of time before the whole world uses the same language. Arabic.
Sorry, couldn't help myself... lol
Just a guess but: Spit is still used to break down longer chains of carbohydrates in order to induce fermentation in some cultures. That combined to the near universal and trans species enjoyment of getting wasted could be an explanation?
Worms are essential to angling, a very old form of fishing. Could worms have earned their special status as magical things that attract fish, a very important food item for early humans?