My 2016 just turned over 133k and has been the most reliable vehicle I've owned. I'm on the third set of tires and they never wear poorly. The only engine-related repair I've had to do was the thermostat sensor and that didn't fail on the road. I'm still on the original brakes and suspension components. I get 29MPG without a ladder on top and 24 with. There are no rust issues either. I have been so impressed with it's abilities and dependability that I think I would kick myself if I traded it off.
To anybody complaining that they can't fit their motorcycle or an 8' sheet of plywood or that it doesn't run on diesel...... just buy yourself an 18 wheeler and that will solve your problems.
I literally helped a motorcyclist on the side of the road after buying my bran new city, it fit him and his bike with the doors closed get to a convent store so he’d be safe, bc it just turned night time.
Good video review, thanks. I like the way you really pushed the van in the test course. They should have brought over the 2.0L diesel version. I think the Ram guys are wrong to think that Canadians & Americans would not want a 40+ mpg manual diesel version, and also the high roof model that is the Doblo XL in Europe.
I want diesel and manual....why doesnt anyone want to drive manual? In harsh winter climates manual is the way to go as it makes driving on ice safer coupled with abs system
I grew up driving a stick. Not anymore and I don't want to go back to one. With all the stop and go driving, it's just a pain to drive a manual. Give me an automatic every time.
Well done review, thank you. Interesting that it handles like a car. As that the 2015 is its inaugural year in the United States (and it's not exactly the same as the Fiat in Europe today), do you have any thoughts on its longevity and maintenance (high or low)? Also, for the model with the seats that fold down, it'd be nice to see what that configuration looks like.
the Promaster City has powertrain options same as what's found in the 2015 Chrysler 200. The 2.4L I-4 Tigershark Engine with the 9-speed automatic. It's nice and all, but does it really need a 9-speed? I also hear the 9-speed transmissions' shifting is delayed and laggy and makes engine feel unresponsive. Is this true?
***** The thing is though, I've heard from a lot of automotive journalists that these tend to get very jerky (I definitely believe you in regards to the fact that it's smooth when cruising) and they don't tend to reach 8th or 9th gear all that much. Especially for us in Canada, when we go down on highway at max 120km/h you'd only reach 7th or 8th gear. I haven't driven the car, but unless the gears are ratio'd very closely, you wouldn't really *need* 8th or 9th gear. I also thought only people/corporations who have businesses that require somewhat larger vehicles to haul stuff buy these cars, but it's good to see that you have your own for family purposes. I hope the vehicle is treating you well.
Questions! Is it a coincidence that the Ford Transit Connect is also built in Turkey? Can it tow? If yes, what is the tow rating? You mentioned that there is a passenger version. Will this model eventually replace the current Dodge Caravan? I wish they would have let you do the test course with a payload inside...
The US build 9 Speed ZF-Transmission has evolved quite a bit since it was first introduced to the new Jeep Cherokee in the year 2013. Meanwhile this 9-speed unity shifts very smooth without being at some point slow or confused, it's practically perfect in the new Chrysler Pacifica. Mechanically it has never been more unreliable than other transmission unities. Transmission developed by german supplier ZF are usually among the best, mechanical very reliable and long lasting. This new unit compensates for the effects of mechanical wear and tear to a certain degree by means of the calibrating measures initiated by the software, which betters the long term shift quality/ reliability consistently. Unfortunately for FCA (and other manufacturers who have put on this new unit) the software was somewhat unripe at first.
Of course no small deisel engine... available everywhere else in the world.... tax man and oil companies may have to take a pay cut...that will never happen
Carl Cooke Here in Europe they sold them mostly with turbo diesel engines with more torque than this 2.4 tigershark. They also get more than 40 miles per gallon easely.
I have had mine since new. To start I will say always get the cruise control. I cannot see the pathetic speedometer in amber lighting on the dashboard due to the sun here in super sunny Florida. I put an app on my phone and velcro on my mirror to monitor my speed. Too close to tickets. The 3 windows allow too much light into the cab. Night time is better. I put the removable window film on but cant see too well. I like the red paint. I have that. I have had two mercedes sprinters both high top and one extra long. Both diesel. Both were very high dollar repair vehicles. Never ever again. I have had eight other cargo and window vans. Never again on a Ford. I never had a Nissan. Cheaply made interior. Chevy vans get good reports from those I question. I do like the height of the floor. Easy in and out. Easy to drop cargo in there. I do not bump my head like on my 1984 Dodge B-250 with 74,000 original miles cargo van. It is for sale. That is my experience. Very firm ride which I appreciate!
When he said "Modified for the American market", I knew it was ruined! Then it has a unibody which is not strong enough for continuous load and rough road work. Then front wheel drive- those CV joints are not going to hold up! Then it has an anemic engine that when carrying that 1,800 lbs all day will get you killed. 4 cylinders are for little Toyota rice burners, not commercial trucks!!! Bring back the regular vans or the Astro van!!!!
Why this vehicle carries an American name ( Dodge ) if the vehicle is built all over the world. ( Fiat ??? Italy - Turkey ) Can’t trust this vehicle !!!! And our autoworkers in USA out of work. !!!!!
I've worked out of Chevy Astro vans all my life and can't find something new to replace it. Why does the market jump from these compact under powered matchbox vans (like the one in this video) to the bulky 3/4+ ton gas guzzling full size vans? Is a 6 cylinder short wheelbase 1/2 ton mid size cargo van too much to ask for?
loudpipesavelives69 look at the Dodge Ram Tadesman M/V. That's what I have been working out of for the past 3 years and I like it a lot (I had an Astro van before that). Now, the company I work for is changing to these promasters; for reasons that I can not understand... I'm not happy about it.
IBLEWUP1 I've looked into them also the chevy uplander cargo. The problem with them is after I put my shelving in there's no room to fit 8'x4' sheets of plywood, drywall, ect. like I was doing with the astro. Thanks for the input though.
Fiat crap. I worked out of one for a bit. It had 14000 miles on it. In 5 months I saw it in the shop twice and its shifted like crap. All the hardware was plastic or light steel and felt cheap as hell. Go with a transit connect. The nissan is crap too. A cvt (golf cart) trasmission
My 2016 just turned over 133k and has been the most reliable vehicle I've owned. I'm on the third set of tires and they never wear poorly. The only engine-related repair I've had to do was the thermostat sensor and that didn't fail on the road. I'm still on the original brakes and suspension components. I get 29MPG without a ladder on top and 24 with. There are no rust issues either. I have been so impressed with it's abilities and dependability that I think I would kick myself if I traded it off.
keep making your FREE MASON HAND SIGNS BUDDY, really a class act you are
To anybody complaining that they can't fit their motorcycle or an 8' sheet of plywood or that it doesn't run on diesel...... just buy yourself an 18 wheeler and that will solve your problems.
What a ridiculous thing to say
I literally helped a motorcyclist on the side of the road after buying my bran new city, it fit him and his bike with the doors closed get to a convent store so he’d be safe, bc it just turned night time.
They just don't understand that this van isn't a cargo van. My stepdad uses this van for his roofing company.
Are you a CDL A holder? if not stay quiet you would be better off.
Good video review, thanks. I like the way you really pushed the van in the test course. They should have brought over the 2.0L diesel version. I think the Ram guys are wrong to think that Canadians & Americans would not want a 40+ mpg manual diesel version, and also the high roof model that is the Doblo XL in Europe.
When I was a courier it wasn't the van that made me tired. The 15 hours of driving made me tired.
I have a full size 2017 Ford Transit 150 and even that one feels like a car. Amazing what they are doing with the new vans.
Where's the q&a vids? I miss that!
I have one, I can fit my 2 Kawasaki dirt bikes easy.
Sheet of plywood is 96" long.
How is 81.2 inches going to accommodate that?????????
All you mentioned is that it handles the 48" width.
I want diesel and manual....why doesnt anyone want to drive manual? In harsh winter climates manual is the way to go as it makes driving on ice safer coupled with abs system
I grew up driving a stick. Not anymore and I don't want to go back to one. With all the stop and go driving, it's just a pain to drive a manual. Give me an automatic every time.
I agree with you about the manual transmission. That's all I've driven for 40 years, and I'd like that in this vehicle.
Well done review, thank you. Interesting that it handles like a car. As that the 2015 is its inaugural year in the United States (and it's not exactly the same as the Fiat in Europe today), do you have any thoughts on its longevity and maintenance (high or low)? Also, for the model with the seats that fold down, it'd be nice to see what that configuration looks like.
Wide enough for a sheet of plywood, but not long enough. 81" bed plywood 96"
+Scott H Deal breaker right there. I have been watching these videos to see about that, funny how the Ram guy glossed over that.
cut the sheet to 80" and problem solved. just kidding. a 98" cargo Van will be nice for future mini Vans
Exactly!
Hang it out the back, and put your red 🚩 on it! 😆
nice review! do you have a link for the ladder rack?
Have you ever changed the transmission fluid? I'm trying to find out 2015 promaster city
No diesel? Not interested.
Oh yea, these guys know safety. . . . Check the forklift at the 5:55 mark.
the Promaster City has powertrain options same as what's found in the 2015 Chrysler 200. The 2.4L I-4 Tigershark Engine with the 9-speed automatic. It's nice and all, but does it really need a 9-speed? I also hear the 9-speed transmissions' shifting is delayed and laggy and makes engine feel unresponsive. Is this true?
***** The thing is though, I've heard from a lot of automotive journalists that these tend to get very jerky (I definitely believe you in regards to the fact that it's smooth when cruising) and they don't tend to reach 8th or 9th gear all that much. Especially for us in Canada, when we go down on highway at max 120km/h you'd only reach 7th or 8th gear. I haven't driven the car, but unless the gears are ratio'd very closely, you wouldn't really *need* 8th or 9th gear.
I also thought only people/corporations who have businesses that require somewhat larger vehicles to haul stuff buy these cars, but it's good to see that you have your own for family purposes. I hope the vehicle is treating you well.
Questions!
Is it a coincidence that the Ford Transit Connect is also built in Turkey?
Can it tow? If yes, what is the tow rating?
You mentioned that there is a passenger version. Will this model eventually replace the current Dodge Caravan?
I wish they would have let you do the test course with a payload inside...
+fabulousprofound 2000lbs towing
that rattling was definitely not your watch..
༺ • AFINO • ༻ You caught that huh!? Yeah nice try, Watch! LoL fuckin sales men.
They have transmission problem
The US build 9 Speed ZF-Transmission has evolved quite a bit since it was first introduced to the new Jeep Cherokee in the year 2013. Meanwhile this 9-speed unity shifts very smooth without being at some point slow or confused, it's practically perfect in the new Chrysler Pacifica. Mechanically it has never been more unreliable than other transmission unities. Transmission developed by german supplier ZF are usually among the best, mechanical very reliable and long lasting. This new unit compensates for the effects of mechanical wear and tear to a certain degree by means of the calibrating measures initiated by the software, which betters the long term shift quality/ reliability consistently. Unfortunately for FCA (and other manufacturers who have put on this new unit) the software was somewhat unripe at first.
Of course no small deisel engine... available everywhere else in the world.... tax man and oil companies may have to take a pay cut...that will never happen
Carl Cooke
Here in Europe they sold them mostly with turbo diesel engines with more torque than this 2.4 tigershark. They also get more than 40 miles per gallon easely.
Anybody know where to get the floor mat/tray shown in the back?
I have had mine since new. To start I will say always get the cruise control. I cannot see the pathetic speedometer in amber lighting on the dashboard due to the sun here in super sunny Florida. I put an app on my phone and velcro on my mirror to monitor my speed. Too close to tickets. The 3 windows allow too much light into the cab. Night time is better. I put the removable window film on but cant see too well. I like the red paint. I have that. I have had two mercedes sprinters both high top and one extra long. Both diesel. Both were very high dollar repair vehicles. Never ever again. I have had eight other cargo and window vans. Never again on a Ford. I never had a Nissan. Cheaply made interior. Chevy vans get good reports from those I question. I do like the height of the floor. Easy in and out. Easy to drop cargo in there. I do not bump my head like on my 1984 Dodge B-250 with 74,000 original miles cargo van. It is for sale. That is my experience. Very firm ride which I appreciate!
When he said "Modified for the American market", I knew it was ruined! Then it has a unibody which is not strong enough for continuous load and rough road work. Then front wheel drive- those CV joints are not going to hold up! Then it has an anemic engine that when carrying that 1,800 lbs all day will get you killed. 4 cylinders are for little Toyota rice burners, not commercial trucks!!!
Bring back the regular vans or the Astro van!!!!
… do you really need an F250 all-wheel drive monster truck to deliver pizza?
Good on gas too
Can you pull a trailer? If so what is weight limit?
1914 to 2000 pounds
You still cant put a sheet of plywood inside...lol
Why this vehicle carries an American name ( Dodge ) if the vehicle is built all over the world. ( Fiat ??? Italy - Turkey ) Can’t trust this vehicle !!!! And our autoworkers in USA out of work. !!!!!
but its a dodge.
Gilberto Solorio
Not really. It's a Fiat. The car is sold here in Europe with Fiat badge for a lot if years. But they are almost all turbo diesels.
I see a lot of people buying these vehicles and modding the shit out of them and racing these vehicles.
Hi, Lafonda Tubbs, did you miss me, beautiful? :*
Can't fit a motorcycle in the back. Fail.
Can't fit a Rolls Royce, luxury yacht and Airbus A380 in the back. Fail.
Best in class Lmao. U gotta be smoking something Liberal buddy. Best in class is METRIS!!!!!!
Dewaltpro picture that’s a piece of shit
Metris is not in the same class in NA
I've worked out of Chevy Astro vans all my life and can't find something new to replace it. Why does the market jump from these compact under powered matchbox vans (like the one in this video) to the bulky 3/4+ ton gas guzzling full size vans? Is a 6 cylinder short wheelbase 1/2 ton mid size cargo van too much to ask for?
loudpipesavelives69 look at the Dodge Ram Tadesman M/V. That's what I have been working out of for the past 3 years and I like it a lot (I had an Astro van before that). Now, the company I work for is changing to these promasters; for reasons that I can not understand... I'm not happy about it.
IBLEWUP1 Is that the one with a dodge caravan body?
loudpipesavelives69 Yes
IBLEWUP1 I've looked into them also the chevy uplander cargo. The problem with them is after I put my shelving in there's no room to fit 8'x4' sheets of plywood, drywall, ect. like I was doing with the astro. Thanks for the input though.
Fiat crap. I worked out of one for a bit. It had 14000 miles on it. In 5 months I saw it in the shop twice and its shifted like crap. All the hardware was plastic or light steel and felt cheap as hell. Go with a transit connect. The nissan is crap too. A cvt (golf cart) trasmission