I don't understand why people don't tell a vital part of Wolverine's kit. His autos do additional % max health damage that increases with rage, which SHREDS tanks.
absolutely agreed, I think this is a large part of why people think so poorly of him. they see a mobile melee character and assume they are there to dive squishies (not that he can't) any success I have had with him has been locking down the tanks and just shredding them before healers even realise its happening. He actually has insane pick potential and against tanks at that
@@tastisoup678 Everyone at this point already knows he's meant to bully tanks yet he's still underperforming. Part of the issue with wolverine is the fact that he's so one dimensional. Countless other dps can shred tanks (Punisher, Hela, etc) while having the ability to provide value elsewhere. And unless you have undivided attention from your supports he dies very quickly in team fights. There is no situation where one would think wolverine is the go to pick vs any of the meta picks right now unless they are dedicated to the character.
@Serendide That's the issue with these Wolverine glazers. You can be good with him, but he's still a bad pick. I don't think these people understand how Mobas work. Wolverine has a primarily negative impact on the team as a pick.
I grew up loving x men and I can promise you, they disrespected wolverine in this game. he's WAYYY too aggressive mentally for his cooldowns to be that long. you can't really apply pressure if you miss his leap. and thats not wolverine. he also used to be an assassin/ninja. he has ZERO stealth capabilities in this game. he can't even climb walls. thats classic 90s comic wolverine. his healing factor is pure trash in this game. it should be similar to magic or iron fist (heal with attack or heal with a kill). the cooldown on his healing factor is the longest cooldown I ever seen. it takes too much effort to play him but he's not like this in comic
Every time I feel the urge to play wolvie after watching an absolute king or queen cook with him i proceed to go 1 and 4 then switch to someone I cook on so I dont throw the game lol, im just so in consistent with landing the lunge and need my positioning with him to improve
Try to leap into it if youre not landing. Leap has like a 4 second CD so it's up pretty frequently, also you can use it to keep up time, after 4 swings wolverine has a little delay before you can swing again. If you swing 4 times then leap you can swing another 4 times with no pause, and then lunge. And use your howl going in
Guides are great and all but I think people need to start saying how often you're solo queued in Ranked and how often you got 2-5 other people on VC with you and knowing that they understand what you're intentions are. I play wolverine, hes not bad but hes not top tier either. He needs to have proper team backing and proper heals to support grabbing tanks and then help in focusing them down quickly before they can recover or be healed by their own team.
100% this. These videos where he's just going off, look at his health bar. Thus guy gets more heals in 30 seconds than I get an entire match playing solo queue
Yeah that’s true - when my homies are with me healing me I’m getting MVPs etc - but I queue in ranked alone and get fuckin cooked most of the time so I’m confused lol I know it’s a skill issue probably but it is a lot easier to get work in with him when your playing with friends
Heres the thing with marvel rivals. Its a team game. Unless you're hawkeye who never misees 1-shottimg everyone from accross the map, you will need a team that helps keep you alive. You could be the best wolverine player, but if you plqy with randoms doing their own thing. You will lose most of your games
You mean head shot cuz it needs to be headshot to get one shot and it needs charge. Moreover its not always guarantee you can headshot whenever you want cuz there are characters who are too fast or hard or little hit box or little head and 3rd person effect or invisible.
there no way you thought this noise was music. i refuse to think people listen to stuff like this. the gameplay and guide are so so fire tho ngl.cant wait to try these techs out
another good thing to note is if you leap against a groot with a jeff on his back, or another hulk wolv combo, it disconnects them, so the other usually just doesnt know what to do from my expirience
Yeah but he can only climb if the wall is either not that hard like a tree or it has a crack on a wall that he can insert in. Since it is part of his bone even if it's adamantitium.
he really needs a buff.. 2 charges of dash and lower cool down on passive, and a wall climb.. he relies on positioning but always has to waste a dash to get anywhere, killing someone should take away 30sec of passive not 10
They need to change it so when u press and hold his slash move. It initiates a dash like in his mvp animation. During that dash on a 2-3 second timer. He either auto deflect or takes a huge damage reduction. Like 75 percent . Then upon release of the button the regular slash comes out. If in the air or if grounded without holding button for dash, both slashes need extended range.... And of course feral leap hitbox fixed and have a straight forward dash hit grab at the beginning the animation before the leap starts similar to magik's dash before the uppercut slash. Like ashorternversion If he misses he stil feral leaps
@ismaelvargas9098 Having to burn your cooldowns for movement as melee only character is not fun. Especially when you rely on those cooldowns to deal major damage. So in a competitive game, what happens is you end up having to sit back watching your team have fun while you have to wait for your dash/leap to come back so you can contribute. People are only asking for buffs that make wolverine more consistent in a fight, instead of having to back off and hide every time you try to get around.
@7:46 You actually could have gotten out in this exact spot in the map (on the high ground where the tree is as shown on the time stamp before proceeding to the bridge) by going far left towards the edge of the map with your slash cd and it would have gotten you to safety where the left jump pad and hp pack inside the building by the jump pad is located. It's an extremely good Wolvie "rollout" to flank/engage with and to retreat on in this map. It's even good to retreat with as Banner when being chased, Banner's smoke grenade has just enough boop capability that it bounced me to safety on this exact spot. Very well worth keeping note of. 👍
Posted this in a reply before, but his ultimate also does around 75% more damage if used while he's at max rage. You also don't lose much of that damage if you gain enough rage to be at 100% after the initial hit that lifts enemies up--which gives you +25 rage--as the majority of the ult's damage is from the explosion when hits the ground (and a little more when you grab the target on your way down). Use this to your advantage--it's great for wiping out pretty much anyone, including your enemy's backline.
Wolverine only needs a buff in one place, he needs some sort of bonus health, i think he should get bonus health when landing main attack. Hes strong but hes way too squishy.
Oh btw in the replay viewer if you press n a little menu comes up and there should be a controls menu in the bottom right so you can hide your mouse cursor and the character icons uptop
as someone trying to learn both wolverine and hulk, I would like to appologize for all of my terrible throws as hulk. Thankfully I only do it in vs bot matches. I need to get more used to it.
love wolverine, everyone needs to stop listening to these streamers & understand this is a team game & this guy is a team character if you want to play a character that can 1v5 team wipe, then play the other character that do so, china grasped the concept but we can't so everyone throws him in C tier or below. I don't see the big problem with him not having a guaranteed solo kill if he grabs a squishy, if you grab anyone into your team they're dead & it's literally that simple lol, I don't want this guy running around grabbing me for a easy solo kill when his passive CD get lowered with kills or assists, which i the part i feel like ppl forget aswell, buff his dmg then that second wind would need to be nerfednerfed then it'd be a whole new thing to whine about, i prefer his current playstyle anyway.
Do you have any tips against flying characters? I usually just swap to hela or punisher and ruin their day till they swap so I can play wolverine again since they feel like hard counters. Also after jumping to get increased auto speed is it better dps to just hold left click or do you throw right clicks into the mix as well?
I dash up and then try to leap in their direction and sometimes that works. But normally just don't bother it's someone else's job. If they get too low get them though
Ah yes, the typical stomp on underrated characters where youtibers stack teams and demonstrate "the true power" of a character. Do it alone and lets see if hes strong
nice tips man, very usefull, my only take is that, ur trying too hard on the memes, you have to be more discrete, memes are like a fart, if you force it, its dodo
Closer than that actually, wolverines Melee range is like 3.5- 4 meters and the range of his grab hit box is 3 meters. So even if you're in Melee distance, it's still possible to miss your grab😢😢😢. Only hit that grab when you know your for sure touching em.
How can you make a Wolverine guide without mentioning the most important part of his kit : he is a tank shredder that does insane % health damage, especially when he is at max rage, so you basically only focus tanks because you kill them faster than anybody else
I don't understand why people don't tell a vital part of Wolverine's kit. His autos do additional % max health damage that increases with rage, which SHREDS tanks.
absolutely agreed, I think this is a large part of why people think so poorly of him. they see a mobile melee character and assume they are there to dive squishies (not that he can't)
any success I have had with him has been locking down the tanks and just shredding them before healers even realise its happening. He actually has insane pick potential and against tanks at that
@@tastisoup678 Yep he's a tank buster. Very weak against squishies but all his attacks hand out more damage based on the enemies max health.
@@tastisoup678 Everyone at this point already knows he's meant to bully tanks yet he's still underperforming. Part of the issue with wolverine is the fact that he's so one dimensional. Countless other dps can shred tanks (Punisher, Hela, etc) while having the ability to provide value elsewhere. And unless you have undivided attention from your supports he dies very quickly in team fights. There is no situation where one would think wolverine is the go to pick vs any of the meta picks right now unless they are dedicated to the character.
I think it's also cause the damn game doesn't have all the info on the abilities. It's all on their website for some reason
@Serendide That's the issue with these Wolverine glazers. You can be good with him, but he's still a bad pick. I don't think these people understand how Mobas work. Wolverine has a primarily negative impact on the team as a pick.
I have 4 recommended videos, from 4 different channels, all claiming to be Rank 1 Wolverine. Lmao xD
I noticed in the gameplay that he also is attacking parts of the terrain to maintain his rage. That is a cool tip I hadn't seen anyone mention yet.
It's mainly just Groot's walls. I don't think you can attack building and build rage
So you're the one creating all the insane wolverines in my lobby, ggs.
Creating all the delusionals that think wolverine is good you mean
yckor is the guy that bullied flats ( a tank main) in a ranked match as wolverine
8:38 is wild 😳
The fan art is gonna go wild with this one.
I grew up loving x men and I can promise you, they disrespected wolverine in this game. he's WAYYY too aggressive mentally for his cooldowns to be that long. you can't really apply pressure if you miss his leap. and thats not wolverine. he also used to be an assassin/ninja. he has ZERO stealth capabilities in this game. he can't even climb walls. thats classic 90s comic wolverine. his healing factor is pure trash in this game. it should be similar to magic or iron fist (heal with attack or heal with a kill). the cooldown on his healing factor is the longest cooldown I ever seen. it takes too much effort to play him but he's not like this in comic
And it’s lowkey insane when you flick on the grab because if you miss it you’re still out and back to safety wtf the goat
then u have to wait for a long ass cooldown to try again cause ur useless now
@ yeah but the dopamine you get when you hit it is everything
@@NaajaXD that hit box needs to be fixed, for us plebs that thing misses more than it hits
Every time I feel the urge to play wolvie after watching an absolute king or queen cook with him i proceed to go 1 and 4 then switch to someone I cook on so I dont throw the game lol, im just so in consistent with landing the lunge and need my positioning with him to improve
Try to leap into it if youre not landing. Leap has like a 4 second CD so it's up pretty frequently, also you can use it to keep up time, after 4 swings wolverine has a little delay before you can swing again. If you swing 4 times then leap you can swing another 4 times with no pause, and then lunge.
And use your howl going in
Guides are great and all but I think people need to start saying how often you're solo queued in Ranked and how often you got 2-5 other people on VC with you and knowing that they understand what you're intentions are.
I play wolverine, hes not bad but hes not top tier either. He needs to have proper team backing and proper heals to support grabbing tanks and then help in focusing them down quickly before they can recover or be healed by their own team.
100% this. These videos where he's just going off, look at his health bar. Thus guy gets more heals in 30 seconds than I get an entire match playing solo queue
Yeah that’s true - when my homies are with me healing me I’m getting MVPs etc - but I queue in ranked alone and get fuckin cooked most of the time so I’m confused lol I know it’s a skill issue probably but it is a lot easier to get work in with him when your playing with friends
Am I the only one that plays characters because of their cool factor and nothing else.
holy smokes i've thought about doing an insec on wolverine but never realized it could be used this effectively. Loved the league references too lol
Heres the thing with marvel rivals. Its a team game. Unless you're hawkeye who never misees 1-shottimg everyone from accross the map, you will need a team that helps keep you alive. You could be the best wolverine player, but if you plqy with randoms doing their own thing. You will lose most of your games
Yeah some games I will pop off with Wolverine. Then there’s games where I get blamed for playing Wolverine.
Incorrect and just cope lmaoooo. I have a 71% winrate in diamond 2 solo queing.
You mean head shot cuz it needs to be headshot to get one shot and it needs charge. Moreover its not always guarantee you can headshot whenever you want cuz there are characters who are too fast or hard or little hit box or little head and 3rd person effect or invisible.
u could say this for every hero .. plz restrain yourself from never write a youtube comment plz
there no way you thought this noise was music. i refuse to think people listen to stuff like this. the gameplay and guide are so so fire tho ngl.cant wait to try these techs out
First song was bramble blast that’s a banger
another good thing to note is if you leap against a groot with a jeff on his back, or another hulk wolv combo, it disconnects them, so the other usually just doesnt know what to do from my expirience
Wolverine needs a mobility buff, and climbing with his claws is a must have
Yeah but he can only climb if the wall is either not that hard like a tree or it has a crack on a wall that he can insert in. Since it is part of his bone even if it's adamantitium.
he really needs a buff.. 2 charges of dash and lower cool down on passive, and a wall climb.. he relies on positioning but always has to waste a dash to get anywhere, killing someone should take away 30sec of passive not 10
This so much.
Compare him to Spiderman, black panther, or venom and you will see 1 dash is just pathetic.
@@mr.blackpitts6850 ill compare him to psylocke.. whos OP and has 2 dashes, why giving him only 1 is just dumb
They need to change it so when u press and hold his slash move. It initiates a dash like in his mvp animation. During that dash on a 2-3 second timer. He either auto deflect or takes a huge damage reduction. Like 75 percent . Then upon release of the button the regular slash comes out. If in the air or if grounded without holding button for dash, both slashes need extended range....
And of course feral leap hitbox fixed and have a straight forward dash hit grab at the beginning the animation before the leap starts similar to magik's dash before the uppercut slash. Like ashorternversion If he misses he stil feral leaps
How do people still not know when you get a kill of assist your cooldown goes down by 10 so he’s fine right noe
@ismaelvargas9098
Having to burn your cooldowns for movement as melee only character is not fun. Especially when you rely on those cooldowns to deal major damage. So in a competitive game, what happens is you end up having to sit back watching your team have fun while you have to wait for your dash/leap to come back so you can contribute.
People are only asking for buffs that make wolverine more consistent in a fight, instead of having to back off and hide every time you try to get around.
@7:46 You actually could have gotten out in this exact spot in the map (on the high ground where the tree is as shown on the time stamp before proceeding to the bridge) by going far left towards the edge of the map with your slash cd and it would have gotten you to safety where the left jump pad and hp pack inside the building by the jump pad is located. It's an extremely good Wolvie "rollout" to flank/engage with and to retreat on in this map. It's even good to retreat with as Banner when being chased, Banner's smoke grenade has just enough boop capability that it bounced me to safety on this exact spot. Very well worth keeping note of. 👍
I'm high asf, the musics melting my brainn and the guide was well done. Subscribed!
Posted this in a reply before, but his ultimate also does around 75% more damage if used while he's at max rage. You also don't lose much of that damage if you gain enough rage to be at 100% after the initial hit that lifts enemies up--which gives you +25 rage--as the majority of the ult's damage is from the explosion when hits the ground (and a little more when you grab the target on your way down). Use this to your advantage--it's great for wiping out pretty much anyone, including your enemy's backline.
bruh said wolverine is the only one who can 1v9. instantly caught my attention after remembering its only 6 enemies lmao
Calling it an “insec” earned you a sub.
Wolverine is so fun. I went 20-2 the other day and got a team wipe with the help of my ult.
Wolverine only needs a buff in one place, he needs some sort of bonus health, i think he should get bonus health when landing main attack. Hes strong but hes way too squishy.
I knew this character was good
I’m on console is there any way I can watch your games as wolverine like a vod
That wall at @0:29 was definitely unintentional but still stick lol
The bramble blast OST told me this guide was already gonna be good
What is the sound around 8:55 from?
Good guide, keep it up! 🐸🐸
I need to work on landing that tackle. I whiff that shit 4 times out of 10. The hit box is so weird on it
I don't know if a video of an extremely one sided match actually shows much.
i think him being able to grab 1 for his team to kill then teamfighting led it to be one sided
thats how all my games look in gm watch live at twitch.tv/quacklylol
god i love the league of legends references of max health dmg
kadeem reference had me crracking up
Oh btw in the replay viewer if you press n a little menu comes up and there should be a controls menu in the bottom right so you can hide your mouse cursor and the character icons uptop
I love Wolverine when the enemy team runs two tanks. I swap off the moment I see three DPS. That % of health damage is INSANE.
as someone trying to learn both wolverine and hulk, I would like to appologize for all of my terrible throws as hulk. Thankfully I only do it in vs bot matches. I need to get more used to it.
Do you need a higher mouse sensitivity for the flick lunge attack or can it be at 4
love wolverine, everyone needs to stop listening to these streamers & understand this is a team game & this guy is a team character if you want to play a character that can 1v5 team wipe, then play the other character that do so, china grasped the concept but we can't so everyone throws him in C tier or below. I don't see the big problem with him not having a guaranteed solo kill if he grabs a squishy, if you grab anyone into your team they're dead & it's literally that simple lol, I don't want this guy running around grabbing me for a easy solo kill when his passive CD get lowered with kills or assists, which i the part i feel like ppl forget aswell, buff his dmg then that second wind would need to be nerfednerfed then it'd be a whole new thing to whine about, i prefer his current playstyle anyway.
Lol I'm just bursting out in laughter because when I played as a tank I kept wondering why tf is wolverine only targeting Me only 😂
Do you have any tips against flying characters? I usually just swap to hela or punisher and ruin their day till they swap so I can play wolverine again since they feel like hard counters. Also after jumping to get increased auto speed is it better dps to just hold left click or do you throw right clicks into the mix as well?
I dash up and then try to leap in their direction and sometimes that works. But normally just don't bother it's someone else's job. If they get too low get them though
how do you make your ui look like that?
Ok, now I just need teammates that work with me...sigh
So what happens if my team runs 5 dps and the other team runs no tank. And what should I do if my tank never walks in?
Phuckin get melted that’s what happens to me
Ah yes, the typical stomp on underrated characters where youtibers stack teams and demonstrate "the true power" of a character.
Do it alone and lets see if hes strong
That song during the gameplay was probably one of the worse songs Ive ever heard, good guide tho
hey i made a post on reddit about his right click issues, any chance i could share it with you so you can adress them in a video?
Forgot about max health damage but other than that good guide
What did you learn from this video?
Hit the bell ....
Even after it collapse
what is this music cursing my ears
nice tips man, very usefull, my only take is that, ur trying too hard on the memes, you have to be more discrete, memes are like a fart, if you force it, its dodo
Good video but that music at the end is…. Jeez
wtf is that pipi noise music bro 5:42
He’s to complicated 😂
I bet you not doing all that solo its easy to say all that when you have a coordinated team
Dude the music is awful 🤣 please don’t do it again. Great video tho
Quack
i really amazed what kind of monkey crab music u make u listen to while ur gameplay shows mentally ill music...
THE LEAP HITBOX IS A SPHERE AROUND HIM, IF THEY ARE NOT IN MELEE RANGE DO NOT TRY TO GRAB THEM
Closer than that actually, wolverines Melee range is like 3.5- 4 meters and the range of his grab hit box is 3 meters. So even if you're in Melee distance, it's still possible to miss your grab😢😢😢. Only hit that grab when you know your for sure touching em.
@@X--pv7kz trust me they are going to buff the range
Worst background music in the world during gameplay wtaf
League players and their horrid music taste 😂
How can you make a Wolverine guide without mentioning the most important part of his kit : he is a tank shredder that does insane % health damage, especially when he is at max rage, so you basically only focus tanks because you kill them faster than anybody else
this is an advanced guide, thats common knowledge, and you dont only have to focus tanks
Lmfao I think most ppl already know this
@@quacklylol so you explain his basic abilities in the advanced guide?
Wolverine is trash, should be better