INSPECTION OF THE MASSIVE MERCEDES MAYBACH DIESEL ELECTRIC PROPULSION ABOARD THE CRUISE SHIP AURORA

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  • What a task ahead of me and my crew. We are set on getting these massive Mercedes Maybach MD655s engines to start and run. What's involved? That's what we are figuring out as we go. Tons of work needed and we will most most certainly require the help of some skilled volunteers to pull off such huge job. This is just one of many videos we will be dedicating to the propulsion system.
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  • @billmoran3812
    @billmoran3812 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    If possible, I’d hook up a temporary oil pump and pressurize the lube oil system prior to running the engine. Once you get oil into the bearings, I’d make sure the crankshaft turns 360 degrees. Then I’d go ahead and roll it over with the starter.
    The generator looks great! I wouldn’t be real concerned about cleaning. Other than clean the commutator with some alcohol on a rag. Make sure the brushes are all free to move. For first start, disconnect the field windings so the generator will not build voltage. Then it’s safe to get the engine running.
    I’m a retired electrical engineer with 45+ years experience in designing and operating large electrical power plants. I’ve also worked on railroad diesel electric systems up to 4,000 HP. I’d be happy to come out and spend some time on Aurora and help you get these systems running.

  • @ammo2222
    @ammo2222 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Just in Case you are not aware of the newly renovated Maybach Diesel in your Area.
    The Guys at Nyles Canyon Railway (Bay Area) have renovated a Maybach Diesel from the 60s. They have some serious Connections to former Engineers and Mechanics of Maybach from Germany and made a lot of Tools for the Job.
    Maybe you should ask for their Oppinion on the Diesels.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Thanks for the contact. I will see if I can get in touch with one of their people and see where that goes

  • @KenGilmour-im3rz
    @KenGilmour-im3rz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a third engineer on large diesel cargo and tanker vessel. These engine are air start , there will be indicator cocks on each cylinder head, open those first. Secondly the engine will have a lub oil priming pump it may be electric or a hand pump. Use this pump to bring oil pressure up in the engine. Thirdly bar the engine over by hand , there. Will be a barring bar next to the fly wheel . With the indicator cocks open the engine will bar over easily . Two reason why you do this one it gets rid of any moisture in the cylinders, two it proves the the engine is not seized. You will need a fairly high air pressure and high volume to start the engine.

  • @gru2936
    @gru2936 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy crap! It has roller main bearings on the crank shaft!!!

  • @area85restorations75
    @area85restorations75 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have worked on a few large diesels over the past few years. I've even worked with a series of 375 hp diesels built in the 1940's. All of them had a pre-oiling system. I'm betting these do too!

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Before you attempt to start those engines, run them on the starter with heater plugs removed. That pumps oil around with minimal loads on the bearings.While you have the cam covers removed, you could paint the cams with grease to help them start nicely. I'd imagine the cam bearings won't be so easy to prime with lubricant.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thanks for the info. This is exactly the kind of feedback we need to more forward without harming the engines. Would have never thought to remove the heater plugs.

    • @osi1neu
      @osi1neu ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you run them on starter without heater plugs, diesel is injected but not burned. You don't have to remove the plugs, just make sure the injectors get no fuel.

    • @JorisKofman
      @JorisKofman ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It looks bone dry, I second removing all the covers and lubricating everything either with an assembly grease out just straight engine oil

    • @oldtugs
      @oldtugs ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@AuroraRestorationProject "This is exactly the kind of feedback we need to more forward without harming the engines. " No, it is certainly not! Except for what Jacco and one other reader wrote earlier most suggestions are pure garbage. It is worth less than you paid for it because at best it is dangerous and ignorant. Before you do anything or allow some enthusiastic amateur boater or "heater plug" guru to touch anything in that engine room you need to get very friendly with a Maybach experienced diesel mechanic and a licensed marine engineer. The UK is riddled with Maybach mechanics, British Rail operated hundreds of them, the money you save flying one onboard for a vacation will be returned by the buckets full. At the very least, if they are missing onboard, buy all the documentation you can find on every piece of equipment in the engineering spaces and spend a couple of years learning about what you are looking at. At the very very least, go the the MEBA union hall in Oakland and ask if there is a marine engineer there who would like to take a look at the machinery spaces and answer some of your questions. The crap that you read on here obviously comes from people who have never set foot on a ship or touched a marine generator set.

    • @bentboybbz
      @bentboybbz ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Usually engines this large have a priming system for this reason. Check the start procedure and sometimes it will say press priming lever button whatever until it shows a specific amount of pressure on a gauge. I could tell you a whole bunch of things to check first and how to spin this engine without starting it but I recommend having a professional at least in the engine room helping you. I don't recommend spinning the injection pumps without fuel...it's a lubricant and may damage it...if it's turbocharged it could have oil settled in the intercoolers and run away upon starting or even worse ingest oil and hydrolock... causing massive damage and a major safety hazard...

  • @foxyloon
    @foxyloon ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Had a feeling that the engines were properly mothballed before the ship was laid up! Everything under the covers look excellent, considering the age. I'm by no means a marine diesel expert, but I'd remove every possible cover and manually lube all the cams and bearings with fresh oil, then remove the glow plugs to squirt more oil down into the cylinders. I know that presents a chance of the oil being ignited, but that's why you'd leave the glow plugs out. The idea is to prevent as much wear as possible when performing those first few critical rotations before the oil starts flowing again. Only then would it be safe to re-install the plugs and attempt a fire up.
    In my opinion, I foresee the engines being relatively easy to get up and running, but the electrical systems being the major pain point. The brushes and commutators in the generators and drive motors look good still, but could stand a polishing. My main concerns would be decaying insulation and corrosion of the copper wires/bus bars. Worst case, you're having to completely rewire everything, and that's an endeavor in itself.
    Wishing you the best on this, I'd been eagerly awaiting the time you start to focus on getting the propulsion system up and running again!

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s great to have people like yourself willing to loan valuable information and tips. I have to agree. The electrical is going to most definitely be the issue but we will cross that bridge when we get there. First we will make this beast operational and then work out the electrical. Best thing to do first perhaps is to disable the flow of power. Let the engine run without fear of burning up the electrical system.

    • @foxyloon
      @foxyloon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AuroraRestorationProject Agreed! Definitely disconnect the main feed wires from the generators before firing up the engines. Would help prevent a potential electrical fire hazard.

  • @Calcite_II
    @Calcite_II ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m betting the blanket on top was to help keep heat in. When I went to inspect ex USCGC Acushnet, we had one of her ex chief engineers with and he said that it was very common to get moisture inside the windings of the motors, that’s why if they were to be down for an extended period or had been cold for a while the Acu had heaters permanently installed in the motors that would dry out any moisture that got in them. I wouldn’t be surprised if Aurora has motor heaters too that were used to dry the windings and internals of the propulsion motors too.

    • @mikec2285
      @mikec2285 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The light bulbs inside the propulsion motors actually supply some amount of heat, not enough to make them dry if they are wet, but I think enough to help keep them dry if they already are dry and the bulbs are kept on. These propulsion motors meggered out as dry in the 90's and even though its been a while since then it would not surprise me at all if they are still dry and basically ready to go. I actually don't see the propulsion motors as being that difficult to bring to operation, they are likely ready to turn and run if the main shaft bearings and seals are intact and functional etc. Plus it only takes like two (ish) of the maybachs running to turn these enough to get some level of propulsion. The only time I have seen a large propulsion motor fail due to moisture is when the motor was seriously soaked. Here is a quote regarding marine electric motors and water: "Marine motors must withstand a constantly wet and high-humidity environment. Not only can water ingress ruin electrical components, it can also ruin materials via corrosion. This is largely solved by component material selection to prevent oxidation or galvanic corrosion." Anyway these motors are very well sealed, that's why they look so good all these years after installation. That's a good thing because these propulsion motors are one of the few things on this ship that are really not replaceable. An example of that si the Waukesha generator which was installed long after original manufacture.

  • @zx1100a1
    @zx1100a1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In the comments of the last video, there was a fella that said he worked on the engines of your ship's sister ship. He offered, so reach out to him for help.

  • @mikeknutson415
    @mikeknutson415 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Chris really been enjoying your videos and I'm not sure if you remember what I told you before but my buddy had fired up those Mercedes diesel engines with the oil in them when the ship was anchored off in San Pedro and the engines ran like a champ started very easily.... As far as that Waukesha engine I personally was there when the guy was maintaining it while at anchor in San Pedro that engine runs like a champ and lit up the whole entire ship and that was the engine that was used to lift the anchors while it would drift around I personally seen that engine run and it's absolutely and I was there when he ran the anchors up and down

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wish I could find the video that you gave me years ago. Would make for some great TH-cam content about now.

    • @mikeknutson415
      @mikeknutson415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AuroraRestorationProject I'm sure I still got that video because I remember when you copy that you gave it back to me.... I'll see if I can dig around and find it

  • @malcolmharvey397
    @malcolmharvey397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ALL MY ENGINEER friends can’t wait for you to get started on these FABULOUS engines

  • @Sailingengineer74
    @Sailingengineer74 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting and exotic engine, seems to have roller bearing type main bearings and Y shaped conrod to the A side, B side conrod in the middle... you need clean oil, clean filters, flushing the complete system with fresh oil with the prelub pump... check the compressor wheel for turning, the try to turn the engine with no compression. Rollerbearings set if not turned frequently, be very careful and check oilflow from all bearings before start. I think the engine will start !
    All valves must be checked for free movement when turning engine wo compression.

    • @martinhughes8500
      @martinhughes8500 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. It would be worth a surface inspection of the roller races too. Pitting spells quick failure of roller bearings.

  • @jabirucru6970
    @jabirucru6970 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The lines on that ship are classic and it would be great to see her under way again.

  • @johnclamshellsp1969
    @johnclamshellsp1969 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great videos as always. At a diesel locomotive shop I worked in years ago, they had a 60-gallon compressed air tank modded to hold oil. The tank was filled with oil, and pressurized. A hose with a ball valve with the fitting was attached to a pressure port on the engine. This resulted in the engine being pre-lubed prior to a fresh rebuild start. The other method was to fill the sump with oil and use a high-pressure high-flow electric pump, to draw oil from the sump and supply it through the engine. After 5 minutes, the engine would be cranked for 5 seconds, stopped, and run pump another 5 minutes.

  • @malcolmharvey397
    @malcolmharvey397 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can’t wait for you to get started 🎉on these fabulous engines. I’ve been a Lifeboat crew member and mechanic for 47 years. All the very ❤best with this task!!!!

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks, We definitely need more people excited with us about making this happen. These engines are pretty special in my opinion.

    • @malcolmharvey6581
      @malcolmharvey6581 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AuroraRestorationProject I only wish that I lived in near to the Aurora

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@malcolmharvey6581 we definitely need more volunteers that have a passion for museumships.

  • @stephensmith1779
    @stephensmith1779 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think these engines would have a pre oiling pump either hand operated or electric.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I see they are electric pre lube pumps. Some are missing and other engines have them. Likely easy to substitute when it’s time to replace them.

    • @stephensmith1779
      @stephensmith1779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AuroraRestorationProject I was a marine Engineer in the Canadian Navy for 20 years and thought it wouldn't hurt to mention it. It is a beautiful ship and German engineered to boot. I live Nova Scotia, Canada.

  • @bonsai9069
    @bonsai9069 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am so glad the world has people like you and your team who dedicate themselves to reviving engineering and architectural pieces of beauty. I can't wait to see this ship all up and running again!!

  • @NeedtoSpeak
    @NeedtoSpeak ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Watching this episode causes an overwhelming feeling in me. So complicated and so in need to general servicing. This really is where the rubber meets the road doing a restoration.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Best thing we can do is to take things slow and get lots of help where we can.

  • @TR4zest
    @TR4zest ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those engine internals are amazingly clean. Totally was not expecting it to look like an engine that was never commissioned.

  • @jefffinke7840
    @jefffinke7840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just a suggestion Functioning electric motor / generator commutators should always have a chocolate brown patina / coloration to them . If they are polished the surface will eat up the brushes at an accelerated rate so it would be better to just surface clean then of dirt and dust .

  • @ammo2222
    @ammo2222 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to donor my Labour an Knowledge as an industrial Electrician to this Project!
    Cheers from Austria.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kind of far away but would definitely love to have a few people with above average skills

  • @loloaqici82qb4ipp
    @loloaqici82qb4ipp ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Now this is getting seriously interesting to me . I will certainly be following your progress. Regards from France.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, The machinery is always a little more interesting then the rest of the restoration.

  • @largesleepermadness6648
    @largesleepermadness6648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those marine engines have ports for the oil gallery, that you can prelube the engine before you crank it/ or baring it over to make sure it’s not seized.

  • @NUTTER8291
    @NUTTER8291 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've REALLY been looking forward to this part of the restoration !!!

    • @robertartac1853
      @robertartac1853 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. USCG MKC here! Loving this

  • @insAneTunA
    @insAneTunA ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wonder if Maybach kept a record of those engines, and if so, if they would be willing to share it with you. It seems like a company that does keep records of the things that they produce. With those engines and all the other systems you can't have experts enough. Anyway, a big 👍

    • @microdubber
      @microdubber ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mercedes keeps records. The problem is finding the right person to ask.

    • @insAneTunA
      @insAneTunA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@microdubber I noticed another comment with a very good source of information. In that comment they talked about people not too far away from the Aurora who apparently restored a Maybach engine from a somewhat similar era, and from what the comment said those people had contacts with former Maybach engineers and such. And of course that is great, but what I am talking about is possible original blue prints or other original records directly from the Maybach company. I mean, it is worth to send them an E-mail and to explain the project. If they never ask they will never know, that's for sure.

  • @Parknest
    @Parknest ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just having the generator running would be a game changer for the project. Imagine having electrical power throughout the whole ship. Those engines are a testament to the quality of Mercedes engineering and it looks like they should be able to be recommissioned without too much dificulty. A cordless impact wrench and a cordless ratchet would save you having to undo all those bolts by hand.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Would certainly be nice.

    • @mikec2285
      @mikec2285 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Electrical distribution on this ship is interesting because she started out as all DC, AC was added later, in fact there is an entire room called the "A/C room" above and outside the engine room that had various aspects of the added on A/C distribution. All was made more interesting by the fact that since she was owned by germans and italians and greeks and americans in her life and there were modifications made at each stage such that you could find circuits labeled in each of those languages making electrical diagnosis an exercise in linguistics along with electrical theory. By the way as I recall the Waukesha started and ran fine, no problems there.

  • @greentree180
    @greentree180 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the cold start that I have been waiting for.

  • @Art_Thompson
    @Art_Thompson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Locomotive and large marine diesels usually have a prelube oil pump. It is normally electric, and the switch for it will generally be on the engine control panel, or the engineers station.

  • @williamsburgkavanagh1710
    @williamsburgkavanagh1710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get this man an electric impact driver

  • @FromThePrairies
    @FromThePrairies ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a project in its own! You’re going to either become a marine engineer or make a new best friend in one. I wish you good luck! Those Waukesha generators are monsters! They will run in the most adverse conditions with the worst possible fuel. (I’ve seen them run off bio gas which i s full of H2S and condensate.) I call that a win in my books! Far better than the rare Mercedes which would have the very worst of part acquisition problems.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Would be nice just to have the right knowledge to work on this propulsion system. What I have learned is that no matter what you know it’s never enough and someone always knows more. I think the idea is to round up a couple of knowledgeable engineers and go to work and see where we can go from here.

    • @danielkeel9265
      @danielkeel9265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doubtless a lot cheaper to service than those Maybachs!

    • @davidbarnsley8486
      @davidbarnsley8486 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can’t wait to hear some diesel noise on the boat 👍👍

  • @alfredmullett5925
    @alfredmullett5925 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It has been wonderful following your progress. Have you considered contacting Mercedes or AEG? With the historical importance of what is in Aurora, in the very least they may be helpful in getting manuals, documentation, etc, or may even be interested in helping further, for publicity, of course. I hope all goes well. And yes, kudos to whoever mothballed the engines, they did an incredible job… like they were hoping someone would come along with passion for the project and bring everything back to life.

  • @rudycarlson8245
    @rudycarlson8245 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have been fine Aurora’s rebuild for a long time. I wish you the best of luck getting the engines to start! Will be following what progress you do post on it. Thanks again for taking the time to put up videos of progress that you have made on the ship.!

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is definitely me of many that will be dedicated towards the engine room and machinery.

  • @MrJeep75
    @MrJeep75 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see these run again, I would ask around that someone that have experience with these and get them down and look at them at least ask alot of questions, my guess they won't be no big deal to get running again

  • @iceman7975
    @iceman7975 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Quality German Engineering, I would not be surprised if it started up when cranked over.
    Take your time check them over,I am sure the work will be minimal.
    Best of luck . Keep up the good work.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks and definitely keep watching. We will get one if not all fired up with a little luck.

    • @afenijmeijer9027
      @afenijmeijer9027 ปีที่แล้ว

      This will decide whether this ship will ever sail again. These engines certainly look good. I hope they are.

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, she's in fantastic shape!
    I can't wait for her to move under her own power again.

  • @J0nnyGT
    @J0nnyGT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow....exactly the same engine as our locomotives here in the UK. We also have the bigger brother MD870 V16 engine however our locomotives are coupled to a hydraulic transmission rather than electric generator. Fantastic!

  • @theghost6412
    @theghost6412 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One piece of advice, no mater how good they look, change out all of the old oil and filters asap before thinking of starting or turning anything over.
    Oil does have a lifespan, and while it might look perfect, if it has been sitting then its viscosity will be severely hampered or no longer existent.
    Once it gets even a small amount of heat into it, it will turn to water and will not lubricate anything. That is when the danger is of doing catastrophic damage to everything when it didn't have to happen at all.
    From the look of those engines they look like they were merticulously serviced and cared for. I have seen those internal surfaces before, they look like they have been sitting for too long and gravity has simply pulled away the oil into the sump. No atmosphere looks like it ever got in so i would take a educated guess and say those engines are very near perfect and more than ready to rock and roll.
    I dont know what it is like over there, but here in Australia all those parts are readily available almost anywhere. Globes and all.

    • @Ms_Princess_Zelda
      @Ms_Princess_Zelda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most Locomotives never change the oil until they blow a rod or need overhaul. It would be interesting to see if this is the case here. But old sludgy oil thats been sitting too long may be a lost cause…. He has 5x of these 16cyl engines aboard. Thats like 150+ gal of oil

    • @theghost6412
      @theghost6412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ms_Princess_Zelda an engine on a locomotive is very easy to change, the body comes apart to get to everything. However on a ship it isn't as easy, therefore they will not take the risk. Also Railway Companies are stingy and have bad habits of cutting corners and costs in some countries.
      But again with ships there is no such thing as cost, money is nothing and is spent flippantly to keep ships in perfect condition since they can't afford to get stuck put as sea somewhere in the middle of the ocean.
      It is fairly obvious those ships that aren't cared for properly as they are constantly breaking down.

    • @Ms_Princess_Zelda
      @Ms_Princess_Zelda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theghost6412 oh I agree, I was making an observation.

  • @cartertanya1258
    @cartertanya1258 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You need to gain access to the turbo to make sure it free , then change oil and filters then charge oil pressure with all covers off . Check oils everywhere . Then turn her over

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is something I need to figure out. I don’t see an access door in the turbo so it may have to come off to see inside :(

  • @GrandsonofKong
    @GrandsonofKong ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another key area to check is Engine Cooling. Hopefully saltwater was pumped through a heat exchanger to than cool the engines with fresh water. As long as the seawater feeds were closed and the heat exchangers were flushed clean, you should be in okay shape. Noting much worse than saltwater.
    Did the ship come with any documentation on the Engine Room and Controls?? Also have you reached out to Mecedes/Maybach and AEG? Documentation is going to be critical to get everything working and cooperating that way it should.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There are going to be definite issues with the heat exchanger and cooling lines. Most likely will need to tear down the heat exchanger and give it a proper deep clean. Maybe need to replace some of the cooling lines. Definitely going to be an ongoing project.

    • @mikec2285
      @mikec2285 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @AuroraRestorationProject possibly true but one good thing is that you can run the diesel for a few moments (seconds or even a very few minutes) with no heat issues without any of the cooling systems actually in operation as long as the water jacket is full. That way you can do a video with that nice running engine sound!:) If the freshwater cooling can be activated, which I think could be done with an external pump even if the existing pumps are not yet operational, then I would think you could run the propulsion generators until you see the freshwater cooling system temperature and/or lube oil temp start to climb which would be several minutes at least. Saltwater heat exchangers do seem to suffer from a lot of corrosion at times but I would think those would all be much less of a project than getting the propulsion generators on line and of course restoring the propulsion generator controls which is really an interesting question on that ship. As I recall the main control panel had a lot of corrosion . Overall though I do see all of that as being entirely doable.

  • @stex1985
    @stex1985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wishing you good luck on running success! Can’t wait to hear that Maybach First Start! Hope you get some volunteer local expert help!

  • @rev.waynet.oleary7387
    @rev.waynet.oleary7387 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to notice the engineers yellow marks on certain components in the engine. Looks encouraging. Love every bit of your program

  • @whistleblower1238
    @whistleblower1238 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice to see your putting more content up.

  • @MetamorphicWonders
    @MetamorphicWonders ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Get all those engines running. Go for it.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely

    • @MetamorphicWonders
      @MetamorphicWonders ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im watching from London. Ive got a few engines going in my time.. they look very promising. Id go straight in and get the lot going. Could have been a lot worse!! All looks clean.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MetamorphicWonders hopefully the rest of them will look similar. Would love to see them all running once again.

  • @imchris5000
    @imchris5000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these mercedes industrial engines are extremely reliable they are also well supported in terms of spare parts. the engine being so clean inside means the oil was well maintained zero sludge in there

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lotite 518 anaerobic is an excellent gasket replacer that you might want to consider. Don't forget the old gaskets will contain asbestos. Keep them wet with WD40 when scraping off the old material.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info. Will look into the Lotite 518 and will definitely use something to soak the gaskets when removing. I know the only asbestos threat is in airborn form but never hits to be safe.

    • @majormanfredrex
      @majormanfredrex ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AuroraRestorationProject It is Henckels Loctite 518. Dave left out the C.

    • @raymondleggs5508
      @raymondleggs5508 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      or only replace gasket if bad, asbestos is only harmful if you screw arund with it or it's already flaking

  • @mikehermesmeglio
    @mikehermesmeglio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think an "oversized" genset is a lucky addition. Fully modernized this vessel will have higher electrical demand than originally built.

    • @KartmanWolf
      @KartmanWolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to diesels. Those engines like to work, and if they are run under a light load, they'll gum up the rings.

    • @mikehermesmeglio
      @mikehermesmeglio 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KartmanWolf That's very true. But with modernization will come increased electrical demand and what was once oversized will become appropriately sized.

  • @robertbauer2688
    @robertbauer2688 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the channel! Moisture in electrical generators isn’t such a great thing. The motors and generators should have a full cleaning, brushes and heaters replaced, bearings checked, then a full electrical test conducted. Any foreign materials introduced into the stator and rotor in the motors and generators could end up being very costly so take the time to explore the entire generator.
    Make sure you draw schematics for all the wiring so it will be easier later to troubleshoot.

  • @gary5481
    @gary5481 ปีที่แล้ว

    My boat has the 16v652's. All aluminium. It's a cold war era German Minesweeper, built in 1956.

  • @cadencem2058
    @cadencem2058 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a musician and composer, can't help but think the way you organize and visualize putting all this together must be similar to a musical piece. I'd love to hangout with ya'll.

  • @fonhollohan2908
    @fonhollohan2908 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cannot believe how clean those engines are they look like their in great shape. Impressed really impressed. I thought for sure there be surface rust but its looks as though you have very little of it if all at all.

  • @Where_we_go
    @Where_we_go ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dry ice blasting would be perfect for inside those generators.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven’t though about dry ice inside the generators. Definitely a thought worth exploring..

  • @richardsims1805
    @richardsims1805 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the engine has an independent oil pump, use that to circulate oil throughout the engine before cranking. Engines look to be things of beauty. Great news!!

  • @jimbobisme1
    @jimbobisme1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should collaborate with Diesel Creek, his channel is about resurrecting old heavy equipment.

  • @iannorton5514
    @iannorton5514 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't see why you can't replace most of the old controllers with modern Industrial PLC's. It would make it much easier to install modern instrumentation for monitoring as well. I understand the desire to keep it original but it seems the quality of life improvement would be worth an exception.

  • @martynbuzzing3327
    @martynbuzzing3327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lots of interesting work to do. It will be quite an achievement to get the engines running. I suppose the genset would be handy. Id be tempted to get that running first, so you have power anytime. Good luck.

    • @mikec2285
      @mikec2285 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That genset ran fine in the 90's, seems likely to me to still be good.

  • @Ms_Princess_Zelda
    @Ms_Princess_Zelda ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So the props are line driven by electric motors? That is pretty cool. I recently have learned a lot about diesel electric locomotives so that makes loads of sense to me!!!!

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Apparently it is much smoother than a vessel with transmissions. I look forward to witnessing that one of these days.

    • @Ms_Princess_Zelda
      @Ms_Princess_Zelda ปีที่แล้ว

      It will always be a “project vessel” but seeing how clean those MB engines are, I’d assume once the cabinet/gauges/wiring are sorted they probably will get to work. May be worth seeing if any locomotive mechanics would be interested in helping if they don’t generate power correctly. From my understanding each one of those stators will generate 600+ Amps each so be careful with HV lines and have them properly checked and sorted too.

  • @philphil6006
    @philphil6006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have every faith they will run they have been preserved well and just need to be brought back on line systematically. I would start with a step by step approach. See if the servicing manuals are available and look at start up procedure and check each step. Engine will need an oil flush.

  • @henrycarlson7514
    @henrycarlson7514 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Wise , Thank You .Looks like experts? are out . From what I can tell you are making progress . Each step is important

  • @turnski01
    @turnski01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need more videos please. More content 🙏🏼

  • @fortisfortunaadiuvat9262
    @fortisfortunaadiuvat9262 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you cover the basic items that you’ve repaired to keep her afloat, pumps electrical, etc.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She has never had water in the bilges since my service to this ship. But definitely ready if something were to happen.

  • @oddv95
    @oddv95 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should be an Pre lub pump some were in regards pumping oil around the galleries and thru the systems before startup. Check the luboil system drawings for the ship. Also check cooling systems and fuel system. Usually ships have system drawings of pipes valves with id tags for pumps and valves. Just message me if you need any advice, I have been working as an marine Engineer/ engine room operator for 7years.

  • @clausfrennessen2362
    @clausfrennessen2362 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Go go!!!! Fan Sweden 🇸🇪

  • @Dannyboy-nj4wh
    @Dannyboy-nj4wh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think your biggest issue isnt going to be mechanical but electrical such as the wiring But overall lookin good!

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can tell right away that your 100% correct. Especially if anything requires new windings.

  • @bobeden5027
    @bobeden5027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The SS Canberra was turbo electric and the main drive motors were huge!

  • @cvic9842
    @cvic9842 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If you plan to have the Aurora run under hew own power, and actually sail again, will she be drydocked beforehand for hull treatment?

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It all comes down to money really. Would love to have her put into dry dock and if all goes well then that’s a possibility. Until that time however she will stay here in fresh and shallow water.

    • @cvic9842
      @cvic9842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AuroraRestorationProject Like anything i suppose, it all comes down to money. Thanks for the reply

  • @troybockhop1351
    @troybockhop1351 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Check out those huge roller main bearings. Built to run forever. German overbuilt!

  • @reedjacksonmaccom
    @reedjacksonmaccom ปีที่แล้ว

    Good update. Thank you.

  • @gamerfelltomate
    @gamerfelltomate ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a shipmechanic i recommend to disable the injectorpump by removing the fuelpipe to the engines to prevent it from starting and to check the preheating of the engines (warm engine starts easier than a cold one) otherwise good luck

  • @mysteryyyyyy
    @mysteryyyyyy ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool

  • @TheDaf95xf
    @TheDaf95xf ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous job 👍🏻 Back in the U.K. we ran class 52 western diesel locomotives with the Maybach engines in them 😊 We’ve got some preserved on railway lines with work shops. I bet if you contacted say the East Lancashire Railway in Bury they’d help you out with some knowledge 🤔👏🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @robertkees6048
    @robertkees6048 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a little disappointed, I'm used to instant gratification tv, and so I figured you'd have all five running and be out to Sea within a nice 30 minute timeframe. Got a dose of the realities. Keep up the good work, I know someday we'll all celebrate when you take that thing out for a little run. I hear Capt. Stubing is available for parties and Bart mitzvas.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately reality shows are a bit more unrealistic. Behind the scenes are 20 people working day and night to get the job finished and the reality show gives us a couple of average people knocking it out themselves in a single episode. It’s really whatever sells an audience I guess.

    • @robertkees6048
      @robertkees6048 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AuroraRestorationProject Well I promise I was only kidding, I've been watching closely, and I know it's no fantasy tv show. I will admit to being greedy though. I love an update, it's just so much fun to watch you slowly bring this historic ship back to life. And the fireplace in the lounge is total bad azz, I would like to party there some day. No I must say, I appreciate all the work everyone is doing, and will look forward to each and every update with great fervor cause I got the fever.

  • @coolissimo69
    @coolissimo69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great episode.

  • @johnsnow1355
    @johnsnow1355 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a good thing a more well known generator is installed. Very rare means impossible to repair usually

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s true and a great way to think about it. This generator appears in great condition

    • @johnsnow1355
      @johnsnow1355 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AuroraRestorationProject I was surprised to see roller bearings on the crankshaft that's German engineering those motors will last forever with proper care 😊

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnsnow1355 I sure hope so. They could be beautiful if restored correctly.

  • @bobeden5027
    @bobeden5027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to hate cleaning the commutator and insulation layer between each copper strip. then doing the electrical check on each comm.

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The black dust inside the generators is carbon from the commutator brushes. Really high power generators cool the windings with hydrogen inside a sealed casing. The slip rings are OUTSIDE the hydrogen cooled area, so the dust is contained.

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks David, It’s things like this that we should know. The more knowledge the better off these engines will be.

    • @sergioaguayogarciara
      @sergioaguayogarciara ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most likely nitrogen, as hydrogen is insanely flammable.

    • @HeavyHaulKen
      @HeavyHaulKen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Large power plants use Hydrogen for cooling.
      Your setup is much like a diesel electric locomotive. Probably just needs a good cleaning.

  • @niosanfrancisco
    @niosanfrancisco ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was the episode I was waiting for ! The Mercedes Maybach tag stated year of manufactuer was 1965 ….wasnt the ship built in 1955? .

  • @comicman8724
    @comicman8724 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couple things...BUY AN IMPACT WRENCH 😅...and also you should keep track of the location you remove each bolt from you you can make sure the right size goes back in

  • @marko2140
    @marko2140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really intresting and educating video. Can't wait for the next one. Keep up the good work.

  • @TheAquabears
    @TheAquabears ปีที่แล้ว

    "...or it's just that clean." Could be it's just that clean. I've seen junkyard motors that look like rusted out scrap on the outside, but are spotless under the heads and down inside. It's all about keeping the seals intact. Keep the moisture out and they stay fresh.

  • @papabits5721
    @papabits5721 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the African Queen steam boat .

  • @WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE
    @WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey look at the old guy! Glad he was able to get onboard and give you a hand. I think I'm gunna donate a battery powered impact gun to ya Chris.🤓

  • @scottrussell3862
    @scottrussell3862 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heater plugs out and fogging oil or duck/wd40 the cylinders. As others have already said oil the cam and lifters with run in oil in a spray bottle, Duck oil or a similar light lubricant will also be ideal ( Duck oil and wd40 act as a water displacer as well so good if moisture is present). Use run in oil and if you can access the crank use a oil sprayer to liberally coat bearings, fill with run in oil and keep heater plugs out. If there is a way to manually bar the engine over I would do this to ensure its free. Then proceed to crank via the starter still with heater plugs out and injectors disconnected / fuel supply isolated until you have oil pressure. Refit glow plugs and injectors and cross your fingers. Love the vids.

  • @mightyhenk
    @mightyhenk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    these engines have also been used in trains
    hope to do work but see that you don't try to start like crazy but work carefully great

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely going to go one step at a time and try our best to do it right and not be in a hurry.

    • @ammo2222
      @ammo2222 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe you could Team up with the Guys at Nyles Canyon Railroad. They are Restoring a Krauss Maffei Diesel Hydraulic Locomotive with a Maybach Engine in it. They have disassembled it completely and put back together.
      As far as im aware you Guys should be within a drivable Distance to one another.

  • @bobeden5027
    @bobeden5027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    German engineering at it's best!

  • @btraister1
    @btraister1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg did you see the safetywired valve retainers?

  • @phensriwood8081
    @phensriwood8081 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those German gauges are all reconditionable. Take them off , tag the wires, repair and reinstall.

  • @petermonro5643
    @petermonro5643 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you create wiring diagrams when you rewire the control panel and other areas as the electrical restoration work progresses

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely, Definitely not taking any chances.

    • @petermonro5643
      @petermonro5643 ปีที่แล้ว

      electric propulsion has its risks
      This from the srtory of the SS Canberra in 1963
      But sadly her troubled past was about to catch up with her again for at around 4 AM on January 4, 1963 the Canberra was sailing eastward at good speed of 27 knots across the Mediterranean with 2,222 passengers on board. Being about 160 miles north-east of Malta, one of the officers in the engine room saw that one of the three turbo-generators had “shed its load.” As the generator began to speed up, the crew were unable to trip the circuit breaker, and then one of the crew forcibly broke the contact and that was in spite of the sign warning not to do this. It created a considerable electrical arc that caused a fire that was fed electrically by the other two generators and this then destroyed the starboard side of the switchboard and the majority of the electrical distribution cables. Canberra suddenly lost all power and suddenly alarms rang out throughout the ship.

  • @Cg41418
    @Cg41418 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should be prelude pumps installed. Look for em.

  • @johannesbecker7396
    @johannesbecker7396 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would leave that broken bolt alone, there are enough bolts to keep that cover on. Wouldn't want to risk getting metal shavings in there..

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good call. Either that or make sure it’s sealed up good before I start drilling. Will give it some thought.

    • @johannesbecker7396
      @johannesbecker7396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, if you taped the opening up and vacuumed the shavings off it probably would be pretty safe.
      Love to see something of this size and historic value getting restored.
      It's sad to see so many old ships rotting away or being scraped.
      Restoring cars and motorcycles is one thing, but this is on a whole different level.
      Keep up the good work👍
      Greetings from Germany

    • @wurlyone4685
      @wurlyone4685 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@AuroraRestorationProject if it's a blind bolt, fully refit the cover and mark the drill bit with the max depth you need to drill and you'll be fine. No risk of getting any swarf inside then.

  • @whitneylake2107
    @whitneylake2107 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome !

  • @michamorchal3818
    @michamorchal3818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most people write here about filling the engine with oil. In my opinion, the first thing you should do is fill the engine and cooling system with water and start warming up the engine. Open the crankcase and check for water leaks a and then fill the engine with oil.

  • @1crustyoldmsgtretired870
    @1crustyoldmsgtretired870 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd start with the turbos and make sure they're free. Then hopefully there's a pre oiler built in. If not, perhaps improvise something into either an external filter or oil cooler. Definitely ideal to get some oil circulated before trying to roll the engine over. If that won't work, open the valve covers and pour some oil over the valve gear, pull the injectors, and roll it over until there's oil pressure. Do not oil the cylinders and also check the oil seals in the turbos before you attempt the first start - you don't want a runaway! I'm willing to bet Mercedes still has all the technical resources to help you get these engines back in service.
    Wow! Roller bearings on the crank, fork and blade rods... And did I see an oil nozzle for piston cooling? ♥♥♥ They sure don't build them like they used to

  • @patrickdevries4877
    @patrickdevries4877 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    cant wait to see the old girl cruising on her own power again! good luck with the engines ,question would it not be wise to do the blue genie first? than you have all the power you need in the ship for all the project, or are you "scared" to use shippower (in case of broken wires or someting like that)

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The biggest issue with the blue diesel is that it’s overkill. I would imagine that at idol we are looking at 5 gallons per hours. We will however get it operable wether or not we use it will be another story.

    • @majormanfredrex
      @majormanfredrex ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AuroraRestorationProject I have encountered that problem before with over spec equipment that is costly to run, especially where full capacity is rarely required. Our solution was to acquire a good, used, lower spec unit and installed it alongside the big unit, with a change over switch. We use the smaller unit unless full capacity is required.

  • @HeavyHaulKen
    @HeavyHaulKen ปีที่แล้ว

    Before cranking, open the cylinder cocks to make sure all condensation is out of the cylinders. Water/condensation in any cylinders will cause a bent connecting rod...don't want that.
    I would focus primarily on the waukesha genset, then you'll have power for engineering dept, and main engine electrics...

  • @robertartac1853
    @robertartac1853 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you connected with PLA down in Fremont? They have several Maybach diesel experts on the SP9010 project. PM for more information and contacts.

  • @wanglydiaplt
    @wanglydiaplt ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey have you folks gotten hold of the crew at the Penngrove Power & Implement Museum? They could really help. I see Steve Harcourt tho so you're in good hands. :-)

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dont forget to uncap the top of the funnel so the fumes dont come back in to the ship.

  • @jflyg2652
    @jflyg2652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎉

  • @urgolf1974
    @urgolf1974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beware of possible asbestos wrapping in the exhaust area.

  • @JohnAspiker
    @JohnAspiker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would think there is a oil centafeuge, that supplies oil to the engine the same for the fuel supply, and it might be a dry sump system

    • @AuroraRestorationProject
      @AuroraRestorationProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed there is. Something else to decipher in the very near future.

    • @MrTjollen
      @MrTjollen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Either there is one purifier for all engines or a small one each . If the heating for the purifier is electrical it should be possible to start it / them just with electric power and start purifying the engine oil . Otherwise you also need a boiler to heat the oil . The oil has to be heated to 85 degrees celsius to be purified properly . Then you also need water to run the purifier . Good luck with everything !