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This was recorded right before the price of opera went up and all, just FYI. Patrons see videos super early.
I’ve been collecting since the 90s. I most definitely look at it as a bad thing. I miss the days when you can find movies everywhere. Those day were most definitely perfect to me. I purchased Children of the Corn Part II and a Puppet Master collection at a drug store. A drug store man! How awesome is that! I needed more multivitamins and I found a DVD rack. I miss FYE and Sam Goodie. I miss Hollywood Video. I miss the video store in all of the malls. I miss Best Buy being a store that mattered. I miss being absolutely bombarded with physical media wherever you went. Those were the glory days.
Special features were definitely a thing during the DVD era. Every movie had loads of them and some multiple discs full of them.
I became a rabid fan of the Universal Classic Monsters because of physical media. In 2004, when Van Helsing was coming out, Universal released the Monster Legacy DVD Gift Set, which included the legacy collections of Dracula, Frankenstein, and The Wolf Man, and a hand painted resin bust by Sideshow Collectibles for each monster. The big box it came in was beautiful, awesome, classy! I’ll never forget, it was the Sunday BEFORE official release date, Blockbuster had it on their shelf behind the cash register. I asked them, “are you guys selling that yet?” They said, “yes.” If you can imagine me running home with my awesome collectible Universal Monster box set with 3 busts and 14 films on 6 discs with a smile on my face that would make The Joker look like he is crying, that was me. Prior to that, I saw a few of the classic monster movies, but that box set, on that faithful Sunday, made me the fan that I am today.
Memories man. Memories.
releasing movies on 4k shortly after they come out on blu ray is the most annoying imo
Can't even score a ❤ for my comment lol. Everyone else got one lol. Throw some love my way CHH ❤❤❤❤
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@@alihamood150sorry I get so much, not intentional.
@@PlanetCHH All good. I was just teasing
Yep, this is why I only stick to 4k. With the only exception being those, every now and then, films that are forgotten and will probably never get a 4k. Either tor a long time or never
Have to give a shout out to Anchor Bay. Their Halloween DVD releases in the 90's early 2000's were amazing. Anchor Bay was for me where it all started. Loads of special features, booklets, etc Anchor Bay used to be really special.
Special features were what got me into buying a DVD player in the first place. In 2000, I still had the 20 inch 80s TV that I bought from a neighbor for 50 bucks, so picture quality wasn’t that noticeable. But the idea of deleted scenes, director’s commentary, etc. were too good to pass up. I still contend the 2-disc DVD of Fight Club and the 5-disc Godfather collection were game changers in accelerating DVD taking over as the dominant format.
That shout factory Halloween 3 Blu-ray was a game changer for its time. The deluxe packaging, the new slipcase art and the loads of special features. Shout factory really set the bar for special features for horror films. Now all that is taken for granted. But in 2012 it was groundbreaking.
I think it's totally getting out of control with all the premium releases. Here in Germany we've got 7(!) Terrifier 2 Mediabook variants with different covers - all limited.
For me personally it's about the movies, not the packaging. That's why I sold all my Mediabooks, Steelbooks etc. and just collect Blu Ray Amarays from now on. Love the packaging uniformity, gives me strong video store vibes 📼
Exactly EDGE OF SANITY had ( 3-4) media books with different artwork. Always loved the movie so got one, $70 4 years ago
Just ordered my copy of Opera last night for $60. Looking forward to it! Also pre-ordered The Hitcher 4k from Second Sight films. Waiting to order The Black Belly of the Tarantula 4k from Celluloid Dreams. And just picked up The Case of the Bloody Iris 4k from them as well. Spending lots on Boutique movies this month lol Thankfully my wife and I have separate bank accounts 😉
I think as long as physical media companies have a "Standard" variant to a big box release I'll be alright. It's hard not to get FOMO looking at limited edition box sets or what-have-you, especially when they have beautiful custom art and sturdy, premium casing but nowadays I feel like I wanna economize. If you have limited space for your movies (like myself) there isn't much room for chunky boxes. Sometimes it's just nice to have a clean, standard release of something that's more economical from a shelf space standpoint and a wallet one.
The high prices have definitely become a reason to wait for the sales from the boutique labels. I remember when $20 was considered a lot for an LE. That was around 2001 when I would go to K-Mart and always find the latest Anchor Bay dvds there. I got The Stunt Man limited edition because it was numbered. I'd never seen anything like that before. Felt like it was worth the "premium" price of $20 at that point. Now that feels like a sale price when some titles are debuting at $60 like Opera.
I really want the Hellraiser Quartet of Terror box set, but it's so expensive and out of stock on Arrow heads website.
I don’t mind if a release doesn’t have a fancy box, nice sleeve, or even a booklet. As long as the movie and all the special features the could have are on the actual discs, I’m good. My favorite Kino Lorber release is their The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. It’s loaded with every special feature known to man.
the probelm with these super premium releases is theyre hard to justify spending that much on them for anything other than your absolute favorite movies. and then them being limited makes me not want to get them because its a business strategy that does nothing but breed resentment for the release to me.
Absolutely none of my premium box releases are ever opened. If I want to watch one I will buy 2. It's a real sickness we have.
I personally want a "special edition" or dont mind an upgrade if the set comes with a new cut of the movie but aside from that, the extras are basically a one time viewing thing and I rarely go back to those and hence don't need newer ones in that bonus category.
I love that it's there for those who have the money. But for me, it would have to be a personal connection to pay over say... $25 for a single movie. That's my take, I don't need or want the accoutrements and fancy boxes, it adds unneeded cost and shelf space. Always curious how many actually display that swag? Give me a multi disc set of any of my favorite films and I'm down with it. Such a glorious time to be a media collector. Expensive, but glorious!
Another outstanding video Christian! I agree a lot with what you are saying, it’s true just release the movie on 4k and be done with it, not everyone wants posters, pins, booklets, art cards, a decoder pin and all other stuff they throw in there, it’s cool but overkill
The prices have changed. Some 4K special edition releases have gone up by as much as $20! here in Canada 🇨🇦. It’s gotten to the point where I have become very choosy with what I pick up
Got any good site recommendations besides eBay I’m trying to find cheap 4K and DVDs for horror movies I’m in Canada 2
@@francescoravenda5070I like speedy delivery & no delivery charges so I go with Amazon sometimes. But I mostly buy some at a brick & mortar store in the decent mall which isn’t close by me, it’s about a 30 minute drive. I shop a lot there @ Cinema 1. They hold titles for up to 10 days & most of their prices are comparable to Amazon. Long live physical media and the physical stores that still sell it!
@@francescoravenda5070 are you near a Cinema 1 store by any chance? I buy a lot of my releases there at their brick & mortar store. It’s a bite of a drive for me, the mall I go to that has a Cinema 1 store is about 30 minutes drive from me. But I try to support stores that still sell a wide assortment of Physical Media. For sites. I don’t like to pay for delivery & I like it next day at the latest so I just use Amazon sometimes. I don’t Have to have a slip, if you do as Planet CHH will say then don’t use em. No guarantees
@@francescoravenda5070i usually get it cheaper than Amazon through WOWHD, Zavvi.
I prefer flipping the cover to the original artwork as well. Just how it is, better!⚰️🧛
If scream factory still did their current releases like they did halloween 3 with the new art already included & loaded special features I wouldn't be crapping on them like I am now for minimal to no special features & for making people pay a extra 15$ for a new commission art slip. I would honestly be very happy if scream tried with their releases now like they did with Halloween 3. I really miss those golden era scream factory days of a good quality boutique product & wish we still had it because they don't feel like that anymore. If I don't own it & it looks nice or if it's a worthy upgrade I may buy it despite the price. I just brought opera because I don't own it & I really like it on top of it looks like it's gonna be loaded. I also blind brought the last horror show with a slipcase because of it's supposed limited window release & because of people talking about it last year convicted me to buy it while I still can. I'm probably gonna blind buy that release of trick or treat when it gets release because of how many times this movie gets hyped up & because I haven't seen it. I just don't know if I'm get cover A,B or c yet.
Scream still does do great releases with lots of new special features, but the negative narrative has gotten so out of hand that many people seem to miss them. I just pre-ordered titles from their September slate for example, and The Boy and Doomsday are absolutely loaded, with Village of the Damned also seeming great. I know it's not always the case, but Shout is still a overall great company.
Big fan of uniformity. I don’t buy steel books (cases scratch or dent way too easy) or movies in boxes. Not even a fan of “box sets”. Scream factory releasing the Chucky movies on 4K individually was my favorite thing.
Unpopular opinion: but I don’t even care for slip covers. Used to throw them away. Now I keep them, but not on the bluray case.
So yeah, I’d greatly agree with your general take on this. More uniformity, more simplicity, and less boxes and over the top releases, with some small exceptions.
Recent convert from digital only here. I really only want to purchase simple regular case releases with no slip cover. I don't really want to worry about slip cover. I do care about the high quality features on the discs from boutique labels. I wish a standard case edition was released along with all these premium cases and boxes. That said, I put all these movies on my NAS and keep the physical media basically as receipts of ownership.
I agree with your opinion on the pecking order. I love the movie Opera. I own the Blue Underground DVD, which I am still happy with. That new Opera release is beautiful; however, there is a line with how much I’m willing to spend on ONE movie. Also, it depends on the movie too. I was willing to pre-order the 4K of Friday the 13th (2009) directly from Arrow the minute I saw it online. But that is the Friday the 13th franchise. Opera is awesome. It is. But it is not at the level of Friday the 13th in my eyes. I’m just being honest here.
Yo physical media has changed my world in the last three months I’m a 1000 dollars in and going strong. 😅
I think we are living in a truly amazing time, to be a collector and fan of film. I'm somewhere in the middle, slightly leaning into the "more is more" . I'm collecting within my budget, but still enjoying/indulging where I can. Just the ability to have the best copy of a film, all the cool bonus materials about the making of the film, the creators, trailers, even alternate cuts of films, and in different formats (dvd, blu ray and 4K.) Cleaner audio and video, and lots of historically important films, while also lots of lesser known films, and film and tv that might be minor and aren't as well known now....... we are really looking at an amazing time to collect. Is there a chance that things are out of control . Possibly. Hard slip cases, book quality booklets in the package.... do we need all of these, and is it possible that , the sales will fall off because of this ? or will the specialty labels having multiple options be a good thing, so the different types of fans can get just what they want ? or will we all burn out faster than we realize ? For now, I buy super deluxe packages where I want to / favorite things..... mid tier options for others, and basic editions for a lot.
I got the Severin Argento / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet special edition nearly 2 years ago....... I remember many videos had fans really upset,and complain..... but to be fair.... the package was so good, the pricing was actually pretty legit. I'm more accepting of the specialty labels . that was a 4 disc set, 4k / blu ray, 2 cuts of the film in multiple formats, tons of bonus features, featurettes, interviews (including a new interview with Dario Argento )..... and a cd of the movie soundtrack. I studied graphic design..... it does cost a bit for the different graphics, inks, and spot varnish that was used to accentuate parts of the slip cover. I think it was originally $55 before tax...... so $13.75 per disc...... that's not really bad. At all. For a 4k ???? are you kidding me ? and 3 blu rays ? And it came out during one of the sales...... I realize not everyone might have bought other sales items, but if you planned out your purchase..... you could do really well for yourself (I got 3 other films, 2 were double disc editions, all still had slip covers, with tons of bonus features...... on a per basis, I think it became only $8 or $9 per disc, when all was said and done, based on all that I purchased.) Some of this comes down to the consumer looking for good deals, buying within in their means, but also finding ways to support the labels directly and indirectly..... so the specialty labels especially know we like their work.
there is a way to both support the business / hobby AND have both really nice items, and not blow the bank. it takes a little careful planning, and viewing things properly. I tend to think we should still have a relatively healthy home video business as time goes on...... the current scene is truly unique and in a good place in terms of what the companies are putting out.
Great video, man. I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. First and foremost, yes, if you aren’t a huge, gigantic, massive fan of a certain film, don’t spend more than you think you should for it. Everything get’s re-released at some point, everything goes on sale, etc. Also, I think despite some obvious similarities, all of these labels have their own identities. I think Kino is allowed to budget their releases is because the breadth of their catalog is massive and not relegated to horror/exploitation. You see Arrow, Shout Factory and even VS doing the same. Severin kind of stays in that lane when it comes their catalog, which for my personal tastes is the best in the business. I think that their operation is likely a little smaller than some of the others, so to acquire Opera, which was likely very expensive, especially for them, they kind of have to put out a deluxe edition to justify the cost of acquiring it. Doing so also allows them to be competitive with other labels that may have more resources. Hell, from what I understand, that Dawn of the Dead could have bankrupted Second Sight if it didn’t do well. So, I think the cost of acquiring some of these films has to be taken into account when we’re taking about this stuff. Also, Severin almost always releases standard, cheaper editions of their films that can go as low as $15 on sale. You aren’t even getting slipless VS films that cheap on sale. Bottom line, still like you said, don’t overpay unless it’s something you truly love.
I love physical media, but I do sometimes think the big hardshell cases are unnecessary. For the most part, everything should be able to fit in a standard sized case. The most important part is the disc and what's on it.
I have the Scorpion limited OOP blu ray of Opera, I want the new set just the new features and cd, I don't need a 4k, cant afford a player.lost my job,so bummed out
Hey Chh, there is a steelbook that is up for pre order on Wallmart of Return Of The Living Dead. I saw it this morning. Just thought I should know.
You have the same Roku screensaver as i do.
Dude you’re always my favorite channel to cruise by at night after taking ambien. Haha but I always have to be careful because I won’t hesitate to a make a few ambien buys based on what you’re showing. I won’t remember making this comment tomorrow. Peace. ✌️
I NOW only go for Premium Box set if it's a movie i really love Last bought Arrow's Conan Chronicles Box set will then probably wait for ElM STREET and TERMINATOR Hopefully not long to wait for Kill Bill or Carpenter's Assault on precint 13
good video mate enjoyed that : )
Great video chh. Ive seen so much change with physical media since 1980 when i started collecting vhs as a kid then beta and laserdisc from the 90s. I got dvd in 1997 abd there were some terrific releases done during dvd's heyday. Do you think there will be another new disc format after 4K or is that it and physical media dies after the lifespan of 4K
You really make me want to sit down and appreciate my media collection dude. Love ya.
Chris, I only learned about boutique labels earlier this year when I started to recollect my movie collection. I had no idea they went back that far. But now that I know… It’s on….if I can afford it. Lol
I have the Region B Premium House box set. Such an incredible release. Just out of interest, how many Halloween movie releases do you have on physical media?
@@WolfmansGotNards an embarrassing amount lol. Laserdiscs, DVDs, I think I could build a house out of them
@@PlanetCHH that's what I like to hear 😅
People that say this is going to kill my wallet are usually FOMO collectors that have to buy it right away no matter what the price is, which is an issue on its on. Collectors are to blame for these over the top releases though because the labels know FOMO collectors will buy it.
I would like to see the Clown murders John Candy on blu ray
I do not believe that physical media will ever go away. I think Amazon will probably always sell it. Perhaps at some point, we will have to order direct from the studios. But, I think there will always be people out there who will want the physical steps.
Plus, streaming services are imploding before our very eyes. They are losing literally millions of dollars, maybe billions. That is why they are all starting to bunch up together.
I started over buying DVDs in 2007, Hastings here, the pawn shops, fkn Walmart. By the time I had hundreds I decided to look in the blu ray section at Hastings one Day. There were so many great movies they didn't have on DVD. And believe Me, I was in there EVERY Day combing, looking for anything cool that was possibly worked in. So The Town that Dreaded Sundown and I think Eaten Alive, Dracula Prince of Darkness, they started it all. Now I'm in the middle of moving, all but a dozen movies packed up. Out of My element ⚰️🧛. Plus the made for TV movies, stuff like Dark Night of the Scarecrow, Burnt Offerings, The Night Stalker movies when they aired. At that time We only had 3 channels. It was because of My Father that I seen these and original Universal etc. I constantly had the Monster books checked out at the libraries, always have loved it and of course great films that aren't Horror. There's nobody to talk about any of it except Our bass player and He's away til next month. We've made Music on and off since 1988, My point being I'm more inspired by the Music from ALOT of movies. The Dark Shadows series even, had awesome Music, repetitive of course. I'm stuck in the past with films with the exceptions now. Only in the past with Punk Rock. Was born in 72 and for a while I've begun to realize why older generations are so grumpy.
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CHH, I think im gonna buy the chucky set on arrow for 104 bux. U think thats a good deal even if I have to buy the original elsewhere to get them all on 4k?
dude, i could tell you want to say things that might not be positive about particular movies but you hold back maybe because you dont want to offend super fans of that movie. Opera, i have the shitty dvd from 20 years ago and i never even got a blu ray for it nevermind the 4k lol. Im just not a fan of opera. dawn of the dead i have that 4k set but im a bigger fan of return of the living dead. we all have different tastes and just because we dont agree on liking the same films doesnt mean we have to hate each other. just saying.
Physical media hasn't changed all that much, really. Formats have come and gone and levels of studio involvement has fluctuated over the years but it's still pretty much the same at its core. You're a young dude so you don't have the benefit of hindsight - Laserdisc started it all way back in the early 80's. What HAS changed is people's interest in collecting. When DVD was at it's peak, everybody and their mothers were buying movies by the armloads. You could buy DVDs at gas stations and supermarkets back then, so it was convenient. Now the studios are pushing streaming and the masses are now convinced that discs are evil. A lot of folks have bought into it. Hopefully the young generation (meaning you) continue to support physical media and don't buy into the convenience factor.
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Too bad Sony just announced the death of Blu-ray last week.
Only blank blu-rays
@@TheRealBGregz I wish that were the case. Sales trends, retail chains and BR player manufacturers are suggesting otherwise. Oh, and Google confirms it too. RIP
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I do think 🤔 companies have lost their minds with their prices and calling everything a collectors item. I'm also pissed about the whole LIMITED EDITION 🐂💩💩 It gives me FOMO and I'm on edge buying and really leaving myself broke every month. This is the first month I haven't spent a thousand or less in movies. I am really trying to wait for sales or just wait period. I feel upset about buying myself any clothes or things I need but I'll buy hundreds of dollars a month in movies without thinking about it.🤬🤬🤬🤬
I don’t mind if a release doesn’t have a fancy box, nice sleeve, or even a booklet. As long as the movie and all the special features the could have are on the actual discs, I’m good. My favorite Kino Lorber release is their The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. It’s loaded with every special feature known to man.