Many thanks for all your efforts in capturing and sharing the knowledge with everyone. Your episodes are pivotal references for us all. Always a pleasure to have one of our members on your shows. Looking forward to future episodes, and more interesting topics.
You don't need to restrict yourself to fostering only with Society Finches. I had an abandoned Gouldian nest with 2 eggs, removed them & put them under a breeding pair of Parson Finches. They managed to raise 1 Gouldian chick successfully. However, I keep a small number of birds & only did it as an experiment as I didn't want to breed more Parsons.
Very interesting and debated topic and wow that’s so impressive the vocal graphics Ahmed mentioned, with « pure » raised gouldian and fostered raised gouldian, the fact their singing differes is really interesting I myself have one bird that doesn’t sing in the same octave compare to all my other cock, I wonder if it can be explain by anyway haha, I bough him and don’t know the parents and how he was raised, anyway love the video as always !
Regarding your point on natural selection when fostering to different species; are you suggesting that rearing young successfully is solely an inherant trait? Or, by fostering to different parents can the chicks learn to rear successfully?
In psychology we know that some aspects of behavior are inherent and some are learned behaviors. This has been proven in twin studies. I believe in birds like humans both play a role. If you raise chicks that would not have survived due to bad parenting those chicks are then able to breed so the survival of the fittest in evolution is over ridden. I do however think that in an avairy environment where typically the chicks are left with the parents. Those chicks observe the next clutch being raised and other pairs raising them so they learn what to do. The problem in box cage breeding we remove them to flights and they loose out on the opportunity to learn positive behavior through observation of the next clutch being raised. They are then solely reliant on instinctual behavior which is inherent behavior. I hope that clears up the discussion.
Thank you for another great informative video! You mentioned infertility caused by medications can you tell us which medications cause infertility please. Thanks!
Honestly separating young birds at the age of 39-40 days seems quiet risky, isn’t it ? You need to make sure the hen / other chicks you put them with will feed them in case they need it Or maybe Ahmed manage to have indépendant chick around 38-39, but in my opinion it’s more around 45, even 50 days ( or maybe mine are lazy lol !? )
I more or less stick to a minimum of 3 weeks after they fledge which would be about 42 days old. But then I only keep gouldians so I don't have to worrying about imprinting on bengalese.
Many thanks for all your efforts in capturing and sharing the knowledge with everyone. Your episodes are pivotal references for us all. Always a pleasure to have one of our members on your shows. Looking forward to future episodes, and more interesting topics.
You don't need to restrict yourself to fostering only with Society Finches. I had an abandoned Gouldian nest with 2 eggs, removed them & put them under a breeding pair of Parson Finches. They managed to raise 1 Gouldian chick successfully. However, I keep a small number of birds & only did it as an experiment as I didn't want to breed more Parsons.
Great topic very educational indeed plus you have a very knowledgeable resource speaker. Thank you for sharing this information.
Glad you enjoyed the episode.
Very interesting and debated topic and wow that’s so impressive the vocal graphics Ahmed mentioned, with « pure » raised gouldian and fostered raised gouldian, the fact their singing differes is really interesting
I myself have one bird that doesn’t sing in the same octave compare to all my other cock, I wonder if it can be explain by anyway haha, I bough him and don’t know the parents and how he was raised, anyway love the video as always !
Thanks much appreciated Aurek
Regarding your point on natural selection when fostering to different species; are you suggesting that rearing young successfully is solely an inherant trait? Or, by fostering to different parents can the chicks learn to rear successfully?
In psychology we know that some aspects of behavior are inherent and some are learned behaviors. This has been proven in twin studies.
I believe in birds like humans both play a role. If you raise chicks that would not have survived due to bad parenting those chicks are then able to breed so the survival of the fittest in evolution is over ridden. I do however think that in an avairy environment where typically the chicks are left with the parents. Those chicks observe the next clutch being raised and other pairs raising them so they learn what to do. The problem in box cage breeding we remove them to flights and they loose out on the opportunity to learn positive behavior through observation of the next clutch being raised. They are then solely reliant on instinctual behavior which is inherent behavior. I hope that clears up the discussion.
Thank you for another great informative video! You mentioned infertility caused by medications can you tell us which medications cause infertility please. Thanks!
Hi Alex. Thanks for the suggestion. I will put an episode together on the topic.
@@thehouseofgouldians Looking forward to it! Cheers!
Honestly separating young birds at the age of 39-40 days seems quiet risky, isn’t it ?
You need to make sure the hen / other chicks you put them with will feed them in case they need it
Or maybe Ahmed manage to have indépendant chick around 38-39, but in my opinion it’s more around 45, even 50 days
( or maybe mine are lazy lol !? )
I more or less stick to a minimum of 3 weeks after they fledge which would be about 42 days old. But then I only keep gouldians so I don't have to worrying about imprinting on bengalese.