BMW 5 Series E39 | The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly…

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  • Hey guys welcome back to the channel and welcome back to another good bad and ugly finally!! This series used to be a thing long ago but I stopped making them for the deep dives. I realized recently that I’ve been lacking on the deep dives however so I believe it’s time to start these back up. I hope you enjoy and if you do, please be sure to like, comment, and subscribe for more!!
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  • @markroden
    @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey guys! This is my new channel where I go over strictly gta online content: youtube.com/@giggity280
    If you’re interested in gta online, please go check it out!!

    • @tippo_
      @tippo_ ปีที่แล้ว

      BRO WHEN MOST RELIABLE CAR FOR EVERY BUDGET 💀

  • @isfanalexandru82
    @isfanalexandru82 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    never heard of an awd on e39 mate, what are you on about?

  • @EdvinGronning
    @EdvinGronning ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Pro tip, E39 ONLY came in Resr wheel drive. No xdrive on them

  • @noq9866
    @noq9866 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So glad the series is back, was starting to miss both this and the deep dives ❤

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re here to stay man

  • @norbertveluscek3548
    @norbertveluscek3548 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Well there is no such thing as awd e39, unless it is custom made… I own a 2000 525i touring with 225k miles and to be honest the only problem is rust. Until yesterday almost everything under the hood was from the factory, but I did some preventative maintenance. Mpg is shit if you floor it every chance you get😅
    Btw it has beautiful sound because of remus exhaust upgrade.

    • @DevinFriske
      @DevinFriske ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The M54 is a premium motor and much less likely to blow up than the V8. I found a 5 speed, but even the autos are stout. Both touring and sedan facelift still look understated yet low key cool and non-car people don't expect it's a 20+ year old design, other than when they notice the eczemic clearcoat.
      It's heavy as hell (Germans call them "Panzer") but they're quiet and comfy. They care about what's on the inside. They can be easily modernized with a radio upgrade and then you're missing none of the modern comforts. All the leaking issues I can personally confirm. PS, valve cover, oil consumption, coolant coming out of every which quickconnect, brittle and keen-to-snap fiberglass reinforced plastics all around the engine bay, brittle vacuum lines, oil/water separator tube.
      That said I love it. When I pass other E39 drivers I give them the "hang loose bimmer boy" salute.
      I had to replace the LCD display+ribbon cable inside the dash, but I was able to do it myself. Only moderate difficulty, so don't be worried if you find one requiring the "Pixel Fix". Hardest part is carefully putting the stepper motors back in place.
      My car was an absolute money pit ($3k paid + $12k repairs and upgrades incl OEM suspension overhaul) but now it's all sorted I'm running it until the wheels fall off. Good and interesting car. If I were frugal I'd have kept my 2000 Accord. By comparison, there is no comparison. This car is 10 times better than the Accord.

  • @matthewrenzitti
    @matthewrenzitti ปีที่แล้ว +40

    “They leaked more than the high school girl who found out her crush went to prom without her” 😂😂

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmaooo

    • @randomgunn.a.p4367
      @randomgunn.a.p4367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro my engine skidplate take it all i just fill er up life good

    • @blood2382
      @blood2382 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's splitting facts tho 😢

  • @javienj.2535
    @javienj.2535 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you took the break, im hype for this

  • @keysalt4302
    @keysalt4302 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this series and glad it’s back!

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to make you happy bro

  • @slimeplayz164
    @slimeplayz164 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I miss my father's old 2001 M5 sucks he had to sell it would've been a nice handme down as a first car
    Edit: also glad to see you bring back good, bad, ugly roden

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like it man and that would’ve been an insane first car

  • @dkrawk8309
    @dkrawk8309 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    523 525 528 530....are NOT trim levels....they just indicate motor......525 came in 3 trims, so other ones.

  • @mehjezus3294
    @mehjezus3294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was so happy to find out this video wasn’t as old as the cars lol bcos i found one and been wanting to buy one, I want it to be a daily but also have fun with it like you said so I think it would be a great fit

  • @supadave41
    @supadave41 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You touched on something that is very true. My friend with a 22 M850i is the nicest car guy ever. They guys I know with older 335i talk a lot of 💩 and talk down about other cars.

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s so weird how it works lol

  • @alexanderavila9129
    @alexanderavila9129 ปีที่แล้ว

    YIPPEE ITS BACK 🙏

  • @davidparkin9017
    @davidparkin9017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    E39s with inline 6s do not leak. Only neglected ones leak. If yours leaks, whether it is oil, steering fluid, coolant, or anything, repair it immediately. Don't blame the car for lack of maintenance. Be it the cooling system, the DISA VALVE, the Vanos system, twisted seat, wheel speed sensors, broken window regulators, trunk and hood shocks, bushings, engine mounts, reservoir cap, instrument console, thrust bearing, worn steering rack, fuses located under carpet, leaking sunroof, broken door lock trapping you in the back seat, steering wheel and seat adjustment, disintegrated rubber and plastic, toe adjustment wearing out tires prematurely, glovebox unable to open even when unlocked, limp mode kicking in for no reason, heat from exhaust destroying anti lock break control module that BMW no longer has available new so that now you can skid or spin out in wet weather, blocked fuel filters, the long weird plastic pipe that encircles the engine, absorbing the heat so that it gets brittle in three years, the necessary sparkplug upgrade from Bosch to NGK, just to name a few flaws of this great but not perfect car. Remember, the E39s and E46s are BMW at its best from 1999 to 2003.

  • @recruit3665
    @recruit3665 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    as a highschooler who got this car because I just thought it looked cool I can confirm I have to work on it with my dad more than i wish i had to and yes we’ve already had to replace a regulator within 6 months

  • @markzinchuk
    @markzinchuk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Used to have a 2001 540i and mann watching this made me miss it 🥲. Great video bro!

  • @704pat
    @704pat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Epic video, looking to go buy one here soon. Also love the skyrim music in the back lol

  • @MichaelsAntics
    @MichaelsAntics ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You don’t buy this car without knowing what it is! Nor do you buy it without planning to work on it yourself!! If you’re just looking for A car, this is not for you. Just saying. Good video and stick to his suggestions if you’re not familiar; that goes for most enthusiasts vehicles. You go into the search/buying process knowing what you want when it’s a 20 year old plus vehicle!

  • @dkrawk8309
    @dkrawk8309 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those cars dont handle that well? Lmao, God save us from people yapping out their arse

    • @shiveringsand
      @shiveringsand 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I daily a 535i with the M Sport suspension and it handles like a go kart..!!
      My 3rd E39 and I wouldn't be without at least one.
      Best allrounder ever made,

  • @peterangelopoulos9555
    @peterangelopoulos9555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    was lookin at these recently, my summer job will get me like 5k and i am looking at bmw's
    ily btw

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ily2 but good luck bro you got this

  • @ILOVEYOUHALFISH
    @ILOVEYOUHALFISH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro these vids are so fire

  • @jakobpasserschroer8745
    @jakobpasserschroer8745 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey there! The E39 was never sold with AWD. Every model of the 5 series E39 was RWD only.

  • @robert.39
    @robert.39 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The only thing i can say is, out of the few cars i have worked on, the e39 was the easiest one to work in the engine bay, but the dash is a huge pain in the ass to take off if you ask me

  • @lomnoumm7018
    @lomnoumm7018 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thx for this video I love e39s it has to be one of my fav cars

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here bro they’re just so simple

  • @SatoshiCommentorto
    @SatoshiCommentorto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bought one today. If you love BMWs and will only drive a couple days a week and want a blast, get it.

  • @KamyFX
    @KamyFX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great series💯

  • @mio-robloxgod
    @mio-robloxgod 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Just tell the wife that it’s significantly more reliable than it actually is” you got me there bro😂

  • @Rafael_Cast
    @Rafael_Cast 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! You remind me of my son. Made me smile bro!

  • @mickeydee3595
    @mickeydee3595 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had one of these 10 years ago.
    Was an absolute maintenance hog, things replaced off the top of my head:
    Vapour barriers in doors
    ABS module
    entire coolant system x2
    Several oil gaskets such as oil filter housing, rocker cover gasket
    The resistor for the speed fan on the HVAC
    Vanos Seals
    Pixels on the instrument cluster
    But fuck me, my 2002 525i with the motorsport package in Topaz blue with style 42 staggered rims looked drop dead gorgeous...

    • @jasonschreiber6458
      @jasonschreiber6458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pixels don't die on the 525. Only the v8's

    • @mickeydee3595
      @mickeydee3595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jasonschreiber6458 no, I had a 2002 E39 525i and it was losing most of the pixels on the screen.
      I believe it was the pre-LCI models that had a different cluster that dont have the pixel dying issue.

  • @dennisnelson9124
    @dennisnelson9124 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent Presentation! Yes I have the 2003 530-II ! Still runs Great!!

  • @kona6433
    @kona6433 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also if you are considering buying an e39 look for rust, these cars tend to rust pretty bad. Rear jack points, fender arches, doors, you name it. Other than that they are pretty good!

  • @REPTARisaG
    @REPTARisaG ปีที่แล้ว

    PLEASE READ!
    528i owner here, Absolutely love it. i have an active MPG gauge on the dash
    and reads up to 45mpg! I average 21-25 with in city driving after all the mid torque launches just to get up to speed limit
    while I also at certain speed(BASED ON RPM) I can also cruise at 40MPG @ 60MPH!
    One thing to note for MPG:
    (APPLIES TO ANY CAR)
    for best fuel economy keep it LOW RPM,
    use the transmission shift points to your advantage
    (meaning) WATCH YOUR TRANSMISSION SHIFT POINTS!
    (If its an automatic) learn them and save your self some $$$ for stuff like a turbo LOL.

    • @myeditedhandle
      @myeditedhandle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im only 15 but im trying to buy one of them right now, I understand fully that they are pricey and need a ton of maintenance but ive done a ton of research as well as asking the community about them

  • @Deiios
    @Deiios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought a 2003 E39525i m sport In a nice black paint job . Damn window regulators don’t work to the driver and passenger and other then that it has no issues just needs new breaks and it’s at 116k miles . Having fun modifying it

  • @chaff5
    @chaff5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've read some good things about the MPG on forums, even for the V8's. If you can keep your foot out of it, some have gotten high 20s even out their M5s. Keep it on cruise control around 70 on the hwy and supposedly you can average 27mpg.

  • @EctoGamer
    @EctoGamer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Xdrive on an e39? what was smoked during the making of this video?

  • @skaterboi8922
    @skaterboi8922 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im wondering if a e39 is worth a drift build compared to 330s and 325s they are better condition better price in my area and ik what I'm doing with german cars I've already owned 2 audis opinions is the diff that bad?

  • @e30valdo
    @e30valdo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can’t wait to get an E39, staying super patience right now ✨

    • @Pure_Flow
      @Pure_Flow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hell yea bro don't give up I'm about to get one in a few days

    • @e30valdo
      @e30valdo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Pure_Flow that’s wassup bro 💪🏼

    • @theascendunt9960
      @theascendunt9960 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm getting mine next week. Hope you get yours one day soon (if you haven't already)

    • @Pure_Flow
      @Pure_Flow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theascendunt9960 had mine for about a month now. My first v8 and first manual, already have to get new rear tires 😂

  • @5Speedz
    @5Speedz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great list for sure. you definitely hit all of the major issues besides the timing chain guides on the 540 models and the oil pump nut more so on 530i models after tuning. overall though i would have to disagree that although it is a German car it is a rather easy car to work on and actually very beginner friendly!

  • @tridjay
    @tridjay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loving the skyrim tune in the backround.. lol

  • @giantclam1822
    @giantclam1822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought my 2003 brand new, no major issues in the 20 years ive had her...BUT, I have replaced no less than 9 window regulators....Design flaw so dont waste your $$$ on BMW regulators.

  • @s277garage6
    @s277garage6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a good bad and ugly on the 4th/5th gen camaro or the c5/c6 vette??

  • @S1lentIntensity
    @S1lentIntensity ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss my 2002 e39 530i. She was a dream for snow and even heavy rain drifting. Might get another one one day. That or an e46. Either way I wanna get one and upgrade it down the road.

    • @slimeplayz164
      @slimeplayz164 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My dad has this nice 01 M5 I miss that thing

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gotta do it bro

    • @Santi_Mancini
      @Santi_Mancini 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which model would you recommend as a good balance between reliability and performance? Maybe the 530i being the bigger I6 or the 535i being the smaller V8?

  • @evanstechreviews1847
    @evanstechreviews1847 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ring footage in this vid was something. that guy sucked at driving lmao

  • @_____s___
    @_____s___ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you know what good bad and ugly to do :)

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmaooo ok ok

  • @vincentmartinez1944
    @vincentmartinez1944 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do one on the new edge mustang

  • @f4bi4real
    @f4bi4real หลายเดือนก่อน

    They put a tape in the headlights to look more “angry” ?

  • @forgedtrucker922
    @forgedtrucker922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Notification squad

  • @TheGamerKid204
    @TheGamerKid204 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just had an idea. list of cool dad cars! like odesseys and xbs etc. youre welcome

  • @Sixsicdix
    @Sixsicdix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got one years back and it expoded but was a blast straight pipe off the limiter probly caused death lol was 18 🎉

  • @interesthub2023
    @interesthub2023 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do one for the w202 benz please? 🙂

  • @oolieboolieyeah
    @oolieboolieyeah 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the leakiness have a permanent fix?

  • @Hold_Onz
    @Hold_Onz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like the e39 , the only thing I hate is its a bit too big and a little heavy

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว

      It def is a big boy

    • @jasonschreiber6458
      @jasonschreiber6458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Weighs the same as a 335. Smaller than a current 3 series in every way

    • @Hold_Onz
      @Hold_Onz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jasonschreiber6458 Oh really , damn thats amazing

  • @jbcrazymods2175
    @jbcrazymods2175 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hi you all , i have a 540i since 2008 and i never had any issue with my e39 v8 i still have the car til;l this day , .16 years . and to me is the best car ever made bmw will never make a bvetter car than this one ...

  • @CurvyDaze01
    @CurvyDaze01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao why you got skyrim music playing i thought that was coming from outside my house

  • @A_Scanner_Lightly
    @A_Scanner_Lightly ปีที่แล้ว +3

    E39 M5 had a SICK sounding V8!!!! The supercharger kits for these can make for a lot of fun!

    • @markroden
      @markroden  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true they sound great

    • @dkrawk8309
      @dkrawk8309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If You call buying set of rear tires on weekly basis fun, then I guess so

  • @mattgiberson1907
    @mattgiberson1907 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovin the skyrim music

  • @bimerev
    @bimerev 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 wrong claims !! e39 was never AWD (2:52)and M5 was not in WAGON version (As I saw on the picture)

  • @edsmith4821
    @edsmith4821 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rule numero uno : fix it as it breaks dont build up a catalogue
    Number 2 keep at least 1k aside for emergency action

  • @tankkill7128
    @tankkill7128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do one on the Lexus LS430?

  • @Number6_
    @Number6_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy knows nothing. The 2.5 L engine is 170bhp not 192. E39 and most BMW are famous for drifting and cornering. Handling is best of any car. There was no 2.3L engine so the x23s got 2.5L instead. Great car glad to see a video about E39.

  • @s277garage6
    @s277garage6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My neighbor has 2 e39 m5s
    A Dinan m5 and a turboed m5

  • @dkrawk8309
    @dkrawk8309 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im sorry, rx8 has 8 problems? That's why there's 100s of them for sale for $1000 on every classifieds site?

  • @jasonschreiber6458
    @jasonschreiber6458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing wrong with rear diff. Same as a e46. Is the large 210 lsd in the m5 best? Yes. But diffs dont break lol

  • @lero4140
    @lero4140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is NO e39 with all wheel drive.

  • @dariog36th
    @dariog36th 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I spent a fortune fixing every oil leak in my 540i. Just two weeks later the leaks came back. I gave up and came to terms that this car needs to leak like we need to breath.

    • @jakeengleburt7233
      @jakeengleburt7233 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How many miles on your car?

    • @dariog36th
      @dariog36th 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakeengleburt7233 155k

  • @FemboyFishing
    @FemboyFishing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FranzJ shoulda watched this before he bought his

  • @supacoolyE33
    @supacoolyE33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who hurt you 😂

  • @kazorcarbon
    @kazorcarbon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do an e92 plz

  • @pugs1377
    @pugs1377 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im guessing you have never seen an e39 cup holder. They are the worst designed, worst executed cup holders i have ever seen. Volvo had a better cup holder in the early 90s and it was the first time a volvo had a cup holder.

  • @firelamakar
    @firelamakar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cup holders are famously horrible. Calling them nice is just dishonest.

  • @omarabdelmeguid2680
    @omarabdelmeguid2680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tbh 8th gen civic si still probaby the best car guy daily

  • @garageamsterdam
    @garageamsterdam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    E39 werent sold as Xdrive

  • @jessiepaulsen2362
    @jessiepaulsen2362 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do a 98 buick riviera lol I got one cheap lol 1k not bad for a supercharged 3800 v6i guess

  • @aleksamitic8682
    @aleksamitic8682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    E39 doesnt have xdrive, its only rwd. Why didnt you mention the m57 diesel ones, they smoke every gas engine in the e39, big turbo downpipe remap easy takes the m5.

  • @dkrawk8309
    @dkrawk8309 ปีที่แล้ว

    Higher number more performance and lover reliability?
    Dude, have You ever owner an e39?

    • @Supraifyification
      @Supraifyification 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not really wrong? m52 in the 520 is more reliable than the m54, at least pretty much everyone i know including myself believes so. m54 beats out the v8s for sure and while neither the m62 or s62 are known to be super reliable at least parts for the m62 is cheaper than for the s62

  • @LuisGuillermoMoreno
    @LuisGuillermoMoreno 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    an E60 version of this video

  • @alfonsakerlund7347
    @alfonsakerlund7347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro has beef with m57

  • @georged.9500
    @georged.9500 ปีที่แล้ว

    X drive in e39? Show me..

  • @oscarcarreon3221
    @oscarcarreon3221 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GO STEELERS

  • @brandonwalker7197
    @brandonwalker7197 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Good:
    -Nice vid clips
    The Bad:
    -missed an obvious ugly, which is 540 timing chain guides
    -missed some very interesting facts of this car, including:
    ----the I6 models were the first mass produced car with all aluminum suspension components and subframes...even the knuckles are aluminum
    ----Rumored that BMW spent more time and money developing this car than any other model they've ever made
    ----The multi-link rear suspension design was a huge step forward and still used in same basic configuration on current models 30 years later
    ----Many automakers still continue to use this car for benchmarking ride and handling as part of product development
    -terrible towel
    The Ugly:
    -e39 never had X drive! Cmon dude research harder
    -Didn't have great handling?? See points above about aluminum for lower unsprung mass and revolutionary rear suspension design

  • @grahamepigney8565
    @grahamepigney8565 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A poor analysis of one of the iconic BMWs, one of the best of all time.
    The E39 was actually built until 2004 in its Touring form. The trim levels were SE, Sport, Individual, M, engine options WERE NOT trim levels. Nor were there any AWD versions on an E39. Basic analysis failures.
    There were inline 6s from 520i to 530i petrol models and a 540i V8 petrol. Of course people from the USA miss that there were 3 diesels including the the 525d and 530d M57 engined turbo diesels.
    The 530d in its facelift form has better performance than the 525i and the 530i only slighty shades the 530d, except in acceleration from 40 mph where the 530d is vastly superior due to its max torque delivery from 1750 to 4000 rpm.
    The handling is a bench mark for other cars.
    If properly maintained they are generally reliable and don't leak particularly the M57 525d & 530d engine models.
    A realy rubbish analysis.

  • @Sonic_1000
    @Sonic_1000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The e39 doesn't handle great? Aight.

  • @lomnoumm7018
    @lomnoumm7018 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First

  • @darek4488
    @darek4488 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is bullshit. X-drive didn't even exist until 2003. Not only that, E39 never ever got an AWD version.

  • @hatray4540
    @hatray4540 หลายเดือนก่อน

    m5 was only manual

  • @isfanalexandru82
    @isfanalexandru82 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at 8.13 did you just say the the design is boring mate? what? e39 is the best design of all cars betwinn 96 - 2014...are you mad???? this car looks like a car, not like a toy. and safer too ....what are you on about. name a better design car in that era in your opinion, please

  • @benbong4577
    @benbong4577 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    e39 xdrive does not exist

  • @MARTINIVILKS
    @MARTINIVILKS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AWD wtf? It dont hawe that

  • @random_making982
    @random_making982 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bruv you are a city boy calm down buy one and drive it then start talking.