The Conservative Party - Professor Vernon Bogdanor

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  • The Conservative Party is the oldest and one of the most successful political parties in the democratic world. It has been, for many years, the natural party of government.
    During the 20th century it was in government, alone or in coalition, for 67 years. What is the secret of the party's extraordinary longevity and electoral success?
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  • @arananation
    @arananation ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I’m addicted to these lectures.

  • @riodasperolas
    @riodasperolas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dear Professor, I’ve watched all your series and am in no doubt that you consistently vote Conservative - except for Boris. Despite the uncovering of your preference, though, these conferences are a must watch for anyone interested in politics a lá Britannia. Congratulations both for your Art and sense of fairness.

  • @charlesjtwhite
    @charlesjtwhite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Among the best lectures I have ever watched.

  • @perkinscrane
    @perkinscrane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I wish this man had been my teacher at school,

  • @paulgrad5183
    @paulgrad5183 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Another very interesting and informative lecture by Professor Bogdanor. Invaluable for anyone interested in political science, UK politics, and even US politics.

  • @dm0065
    @dm0065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was sorry when I got to the end of this. Can't recall the last lecture I can say that about.

  • @JaguarDevice
    @JaguarDevice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such fascinating lectures

  • @rikurodriguesneto6043
    @rikurodriguesneto6043 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These lectures are excellent! :D

  • @johnhowe50
    @johnhowe50 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I would love to hear Prof Bogdanor's opionions on the lack of enthusiasm for Welsh independence as opposed to that ot Scotland's desires.

    • @stephaniewilson3955
      @stephaniewilson3955 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Patience! That is a later lecture that he has promised at the start of this one.

    • @anonUK
      @anonUK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I can answer that. You don't need a professor of the calibre of Vernon Bogdanor to work out why Wales doesn't have the independence drive of Scotland. You just need a map of Wales and its road network. Wales' economy is based on four cities: Cardiff, Liverpool, Birmingham and London. Caernarfon, Holyhead, Colwyn/ Conwy/ Llandudno and Aberystwyth are small towns, nowhere in Powys or west Wales is much bigger than a village, while Swansea, Wrexham and Newport are post-industrial holes and Rhyl is DWP Central. All road and rail links in Wales go straight to the cities mentioned above, Manchester or Bristol (which is close to Cardiff and Newport).

    • @TavitianNicolas
      @TavitianNicolas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E.
      Lloyd

    • @TavitianNicolas
      @TavitianNicolas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E9

    • @cacambo589
      @cacambo589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The cases are quite dissimilar. I'm sure you, John, could reel off many differences in Scots and Welsh cultures and histories.

  • @georgecourt6385
    @georgecourt6385 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the references to William Brown and Billy Bunter - hilarious!

    • @terencemagee
      @terencemagee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very funny! I wrote some Bessie Bunter(his sister)comic picture-strips in the 1960s,

  • @rafalhm
    @rafalhm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Very enjoyable. One minor correction: When speaking of the origin of the word "Tory", Prof. Bogdanor refers to the "Jacobin" -- he clearly meant to say "Jacobite".

  • @benxo
    @benxo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Brilliant, watching in the wake of the recent election - really interesting to learn.

  • @sarah_fides
    @sarah_fides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "proportional representation would lead to minority rule!! >:("
    -supporter of party with parliamentary majority that got less than 50% of the vote

  • @benedictcowell6547
    @benedictcowell6547 ปีที่แล้ว

    The trouble with the peoples verdict is that it is disposed to answer questions that no one has asked.

  • @annehebert510
    @annehebert510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:22 Did he just call the Jacobites the Jacobins?

  • @erroldothegreat
    @erroldothegreat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Re the format, longer is better... no pun intended

  • @mikeanagnostou4399
    @mikeanagnostou4399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only one correction in the learned professor’s excellent lecture. He obviously misspoke when he said “Jacobins” instead of “Jacobites.” There surely could be no more diametrically and philosophically opposed as these two similarly named groups.

    • @ChevalierDeAlbany
      @ChevalierDeAlbany 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was about clarify this error and type something similar then noticed your comment. Thank you for addressing this. As someone who considers himself a Jacobite and Legitimist, I am indeed fundamentally opposed to Jacobinism and Republicanism.

    • @mikeanagnostou4399
      @mikeanagnostou4399 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChevalierDeAlbanySir, are you yourself a descendant of the monarchy or the aristocracy?

    • @ChevalierDeAlbany
      @ChevalierDeAlbany 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mikeanagnostou4399 Aristocracy of the Soul, my friend.

    • @mikeanagnostou4399
      @mikeanagnostou4399 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@ChevalierDeAlbanythat’s a beautiful sentiment.

    • @ChevalierDeAlbany
      @ChevalierDeAlbany 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mikeanagnostou4399 I am a member of the Royal Stuart Society, which is the oldest and largest Jacobite organisation in the UK with members around the world. The Royal Stuart Society is the continuation of the previous Jacobite groups who disbanded before the First World War.

  • @WilliamSmith-mx6ze
    @WilliamSmith-mx6ze ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if this counts towards Prof Bogdanor's gamble as to how he voted, but I bet that in 1983 he voted for the Alliance (SDP or Liberal) depending on which constituency he lived in. Any takers that he didn't?

  • @conscienceaginBlackadder
    @conscienceaginBlackadder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:47 2021: With the Alba party, this splitting of the SNP has happened now! Even without independence, it got too hegemonically successful as a government party to hold together.

    • @BoraCM
      @BoraCM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wouldn’t have been formed if Salmond had not been kicked out of the SNP.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Err..... That comment hasn't aged well

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What does MP stand for?

    • @MrLordBear
      @MrLordBear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Member of parliament

  • @freedomwatch3991
    @freedomwatch3991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:00 Party politics is going to destroy the country.

  • @olivernicholson9666
    @olivernicholson9666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, Member for Oxford you shuffle and wheel
    You have altered your name from R. Peel to Re Peal.

  • @catmonarchist8920
    @catmonarchist8920 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:27

  • @djdoolittle1315
    @djdoolittle1315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Tory Party ? “They’ll send you home in a cardboard box” 😷☝️🇮🇪

  • @ambientsoda106
    @ambientsoda106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Times grows short: we are coming close to a potential tine of rule the conservatives are failing to engage
    Johnson, should be merited for managing tge Coronavirus event; however we need jot just ideas, but empirical projects on a grand scale fekt throughout the country! Britain lacks the reflexive foresight it needs to return Britain to a forefront of international ideology, nit as a targeted result, but rather as a result of the country's innovative capacity.
    I say sky scraper fans because it's easy to interpret as a landscape changing project creating both temporary and ling terms jobs; alongside freeing up genetic modifications and invited near production do that anyone can do it! Be a meat creator, organ creater, plant creator, and even make new vegetation...
    Another project would be a energy creation facility...a solar farm and tunnels using heat to produce electricity
    ..

  • @jawg2392
    @jawg2392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope they develop new forms of incurable cancer

  • @P.H.888
    @P.H.888 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was!!! 🕳

  • @JoannaHammond
    @JoannaHammond 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem is, that with FPTP it does not matter if you won 80% of the vote, you can still win with basically nothing.

  • @FATHOLLYWOODB123
    @FATHOLLYWOODB123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The conservative party is not the oldest political party in the democratic world, the US democratic party is, by 6 years!

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boris Johnson’s place in history is already assured. Less clear is what the British prime minister will be remembered for. At first it looked like Brexit; more recently he seemed set to be the pandemic premier. Then it looked like he would be known as an International law breaker, But he might be known as the leader who lost the Union if we are lucky.

  • @francispalmer9737
    @francispalmer9737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The greed`s of the few out way`s the needs of the many. That is what conservative stands for.

    • @ufotalk9434
      @ufotalk9434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I doubt that its that simple

    • @Philiptanzer
      @Philiptanzer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roger Scruton & Douglas Murray have an interesting conversation about conservatism here, if you're interested.
      th-cam.com/video/sIScex7WJko/w-d-xo.html

    • @babouchkine5179
      @babouchkine5179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Peoples that don't share my ideology are evils sociopaths " gr8t arguments m8te

    • @pupilofreality
      @pupilofreality 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ufotalk9434 sums it up pretty good from my side of the pond.

    • @Dan_1348
      @Dan_1348 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...and yet we get the most votes?

  • @johanmuller7321
    @johanmuller7321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    .mn

  • @paulgavin3603
    @paulgavin3603 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Conservatives are the builders, Socialists the theorizers, Liberals the passers by

    • @nedlightowlers5168
      @nedlightowlers5168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Socialists built the NHS, our social safety nets and workers rights, all of which the Conservatives have sought to tear down. What have the Tories built other than private debt and mass poverty?

    • @canman5060
      @canman5060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nedlightowlers5168 Socialists achieved none of those they promise to build but accumulated astonomical debts and never before seen poverty proven in every part of the globe.

    • @nedlightowlers5168
      @nedlightowlers5168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@canman5060 Every Labour prime minister since 1945 has overseen a budget surplus. Only one Tory has in that time. As for the rest of the globe - the USSR went from a feudal backwater to the first country to put a man in space in under 50 years. Name one country where the majority of citizens were better off before socialism than after.

    • @authuser676
      @authuser676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only possible success of Socialism I can think of is China. China was is in such disarray in the early 20th century that Communists were able to improve conditions over what earlier conditions had been. Even so, Taiwan, ruled by the Communists' rivals, the Nationalists, achieved greater improvements than the Communists.
      Every other historical example of Socialism or Communism has been a failure. Venezuela is the most current example. Socialism has transformed Venezuela from an oil rich country into a country that cannot even feed itself. The Kmer Rouge in Cambodia murdered 25% of the Cambodian population in the killing fields of the 1970s. Even the Russian example cited above is mistaken. The Russian Revolution traded one autocracy for another autocracy, and the second autocracy was worse, murdering and oppressing millions of their own people.
      Talk to a person who lived under Communism or Socialism or read Solzhenitsyn or Hayek. I think you will find the nice ideals of Socialism crumble under conditions of reality.

    • @puremercury
      @puremercury 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nedlightowlers5168 Cuba, North Korea, Hungary, Czechs and Slovaks. . . Actually everywhere. The USSR was an economic backwater almost its entire existence. Its economy at its peak around 1970 was 30% the size of the U.S.'s, with the Soviets having more land area, people, and natural resources. Socialism has never worked.

  • @nicolasplagne5577
    @nicolasplagne5577 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The prof is clearly a moderate tory pro EU but he does not see what Thatcher saw : Blair is quite a Thatcherite

  • @gracchusbabeuf9868
    @gracchusbabeuf9868 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even the Labour Party seems too conservative to me. I am gentle by nature, so I won't express publicly my feelings about the Tories, their voters and their party. If conservatives of all kinds and nationalities somehow perish, it would be an improvement for human kind and civilisation.

  • @docastrov9013
    @docastrov9013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy is ridiculous. He says you can't tell his politics then gives an hour long hagiography of the Tories.

    • @marcoantoniochacon-clark7431
      @marcoantoniochacon-clark7431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is so true. he uses posh, privately educated authors writing pro-Tory novels as evidence that the working masses are mainly Tories 😂

    • @Dan_1348
      @Dan_1348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcoantoniochacon-clark7431 You clearly didn't watch the video. If you did, you would know that he gives an exact estimate of the percentage of the working class which votes Tory.

    • @malcolmw513
      @malcolmw513 ปีที่แล้ว

      I take it you didn’t watch the lecture on Labour or the Liberals.

  • @fenderblues1744
    @fenderblues1744 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    TORY'S OUT. VOTE NO CONFIDENCE IN THIS GOVERNMENT.

    • @eelsemaj99
      @eelsemaj99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Fender Blues at least get your grammar right when criticising the government

    • @canman5060
      @canman5060 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is Tory's out ???

    • @LeviJamesRE
      @LeviJamesRE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well this comment aged really well 🤣 Not

    • @dm0065
      @dm0065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's say a little prayer for Fender Blues, he's had a rough few years

    • @puremercury
      @puremercury 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When is she coming back?

  • @starkravingnormal9305
    @starkravingnormal9305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Biased claptrap.