Heseltine will be remembered more so than many of his contemporaries. As a Statesman he remained committed to certain consistent considerations..formed as he mentions through historic realism and realistic reasoning. I fear for our current crop of politicians who and by profile is garnered through social media polls rather than conviction led politics. People in latter age tend to be more reflective rather than motivated. It is to Oxfords preeminence that would engage him to a packed audience
I am also happy to go down the memory lane in remembering that we used to study Heseltine's speeches with my fellow toastmasters in Ethiopia many many moons ago. A great orator, among other things.
A decent, one nation Tory. Was out of step with the right wing Thatcher. Fair play to him, he stuck to his principles and resigned over Westland and told Thatcher where to stick it. Went to Liverpool and did good work there getting investment in the city as Thatcher & Co weren't interested in Liverpool. Came very close to becoming PM in 90 when he challenged her, but fell short once Major came in to the running. A Tory grandee now and a decent guy for a Tory.
He has an impressive knowledge of history and his place in it. Furthermore, his analysis of Brexit is a rational, logical and realistic evaluation of what life outside will mean for Britain. A marginal power, diminished, adrift and with fading influence, buffeted around on the tides of bigger forces. He is wise and sees things clearly. On another note, the questions from the students at the end were very unimpressive, they were no match for Hezza 🤝😎.
Eamonn O'Connor= well said. To those people who pose the question about 'sovereignty' they clearly failed to catch a powerful TV programme (about 2 months ago) where Michael Portillo interviewed Michael Heseltine (and many more, including Nicholas Soames - Winston Churchill grandson) and when the sovereignty question came up Lord Heseltine provided a powerful example of wisdom and intelligence by replying that sovereignty and power are inextricably linked. He provided a basic and most effective example by saying that 'the man in the desert is sovereign, BUT POWERLESS'. Lord Heseltine , throughout his political career, has consistently shown clarity of vision, commitment to the Britain self interest and national stability in order to ensure a sustainable and prosperous future for the British people. Most of us will not maintain his clarity of vision and conviction when we will get to his age...if we will get to his age. One may not agree with him, but one cannot refute his political standing (since the 1950s), vast knowledge and experience, and his incredible intelligence.
It is sad the quality of brightest young minds today. If the Oxford is like this what hope for others. They have been brainwashed by the media binaryviews and do not know how to see through the different variables with a vision grounded in your best self interests. A failure of the teachers, I guess, as there are no real debates, but brain washing by the media.
Some men pretend to do the right thing because it appeals to most people; and some do the right thing because they are righteous. Lord Haseltine, you deserve that title - the sign of a just society is one in which old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never rest under. A true father of his nation, and of the European peoples. Insieme! Unite unite Europe.
It s not uncommon for retired government seniors, free from the shackles of the government whip, to suddenly become seemingly wiser and more balanced in their views of the country and world. Sadly not in this case. Firmly stuck in mode Tarzan.
I am not in any way a Tory but those young men and women who attended were privileged to witness a speech like that from one of the greats. The lying, self-serving and corrupt former PM was not fit to lace Heseltine's or Clarke's boots.
People think that EU farm subsidies goes to poor farmers who are finding it rather difficult to survive. They couldn't be more wrong, where the vast majority of the money goes to the wealthy up to the super rich in Europe. I find it very amusing whenever I listen to the Euro fanatic Heseltine speaking against Brexit. One point that he never reveals on his shows, and one that LBC presenters never question his Lordship about, is that the multi millionaire with an estimated 300 million pound fortune, has received over the years many millions in EU farm subsidies from us as EU tax payers - of which the UK is one of the few EU28 that is a net contributor. You will never hear O'Brien or other media hacks reveal these facts, and neither Heseltine himself informing listeners of the conflict of interest concerning his property empire that includes over a 1000 acres of land in Oxfordshire and Northamptonshire. Subsidies that amount to income support should not benefit those that are stinking rich. However the EU refuses to address this fact and that tens of billions of euros are given every year to farmers who are extremely wealthy, of which Heseltine is one of them. Heseltine once said to a reporter, the fact that he is wealthy and receives these huge sums of money from the EU is irrelevant. Typical of the ruling elite who are anti Brexit.
Interesting! The big aid bucks in US farming tends to go the big corporations too! That is why they put “food stamps” in the Department of Agriculture! If you put agriculture back in state government by closing the D of Ag opponents scream bloody murder that you are starving people!
@@tn_onyoutube8436 It would appear that farm subsidies are not continuing. We've lost much of our main market owing to a desire to diverge from the standards of that main market, and farmers are aghast at the trade agreements signed with Australia and New Zealand. A great future indeed.
@@nautilusshell4969 if that’s true, then good! I assumed the government would have to maintain them as farmers are a key demographic and send a big message. They’re also always there at the trough for a handout while also being very heavily in favour of Brexit. (And before any warriors start on me, I live in prime farming country and can absolutely attest that every farmer I know and know of voted for Brexit).
@ Chris saltaur- a little late to the show, but to be clear - nobody with any brains ever thought subsidies were to help poor farmers (so I guess most Brexiteers do think that). Subsidies are about managing the market and the land, giving incentives to grow certain crops or to not grow anything in certain years, or indeed any years sometimes. And guess what - they are heavily dependent on how much land you have, how much you leave fallow, how much you turn over to other uses, and therefore by definition it is the richest, biggest farms and farmers and landowners who get the most subsidies. There is no issue, no lie, no cover up to address. Sounds like yet another of the many incorrect attributions that motivated so many Brexiteers to vote to throttle our economy and ruin our markets. The others of course just wanted less foreigners- and just how is that going? Highest immigration in decades, but coming from Africa and Asia instead of Europe.
This is supposed to be an educational platform TH-cam/OxU. Is two ad breaks in the space of 4 minutes really necessary? Switched off after 10 minutes. Not buying Premium.
Heseltine has become a delightful old man. Where was he when he was needed? Why can't he say even now that the 2016 Referendum was driven by lies and the leave campaigner overspent and therefore its result should be declared null and void?.
I have watched a number of OxfordUnion speakers and then the student questions. I am amazed at how naive many of these students are to the realities of the world. They want to live in an la la land that does not exist. Perhaps they are book smart but clueless to the real world.
@@alexrose5993 Hello: Look at the questions for Steve Bannon after his comments and you will see what I mean. It is clear to me the students have not had a lot of life experience to understand what they are talking about (hence la, la, land). In America we see similar attitudes with people coming out of higher education (where most of the educators have significant socialist views). The students are immersed in this line of thinking and after a few years view this as gospel. Perhaps you understand the ramifications of only getting "one side of the story". Not all students will "grow up" as they age but many will recognize the impact this has had on them as they navigate life. Sadly, this socialist breeding ground clouds the thinking of many young minds since "it make so much sense" yet in reality is a disaster waiting to happen, IE Venezuela. You have to understand that in order to allow most people of the world to prosper you need to remove the obstacles that hold them back. You need to reward for hard work not punish. Yes, there are people born into this world that are not given a fair shake (mentally retarded, etc.) and society needs to help. Unfortunately, there are evil people in this world who will put a knife in your back the moment you give them a hug. TH-cam: Dinesh D'Souza and learn from him. You will not hear this in a classroom. He may not change a persons thinking but he will give a different perspective on important issues. Alex, if you are a student at Oxford (which college ?) make the most of the opportunity you are given. Good luck to you! Thank you for reading my thoughts.
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Appalling stupidity, ready to accept any pap, and not even as well-trained as in the past!
zulfiqar Tareen except the eu isn’t democratic in that it doesn’t vote for its leaders, and can do what it wants ! It removes the abilities of countries to adjust their currencies when they get into trouble ( resulting in Greece’s young population with no jobs whatsoever and no medical care whatsoever and thrown all the rest to the dogs ) you need to remember that the eu is a trading block and not a country, but it’s acting like a country and unless it changes it will fall ! Ps the eu even built a 300 mile wall on the turkey border to keep out migration and plan an eu army, ironic ⚠️
Jonathan Bowen no they don’t because the last leader was chosen not voted for ! I’m a big fan of tony Ben ( he worked there as a minister ) and Peter shore regarding the eu, they thought it was a cabal of anti Democratic old Masonic men who act like a country when it’s in fact a trading block of nations !
In the hateful remarks you realize how right wing the Brits are and still think they are a great nation. They always had a sense of arrogance toward the colonies that they exploited.
Like One Nation left-wing Tories, he arrogantly thought he could ram through EU ever closer union and impose it on the British people WITHOUT a word of consultation. He got his come-uppance when his party got smashed at the 1997 GE.
@@bimmeroo0906 Its what we singed up to in 1973, all set out in the Treaty of Rome 1957 that we signed!! So, no it was not being 'rammed' through in the 1990's, and in 2016 he told the people to 'wake up' to reality and not be seduced by nationalistic fake nostalgia for the echo of Empire populist claptrap....just enough didn't!!!
@@bryangeake5826 In addition the referendum gave a vote to fresh-of-the-boat commonwealth citizens, while denying the same to long settled EU nationals (disgraceful). The referendum was designed to pass.
Comrad Heseltine needs to remind his audience that if Englishmen try to defend England's Borders today they will be branded as white supremacist Nazis.
@yorkshire lad said: _The war is nothing to do with the issue now. We joined a trading block nothing else_ Exactly YL. Heseltine is arguing by association and emotion, not logic. He also plays the moral card. And many of his contentions are contrived or circular. He is a convincing speaker, but then the world is full of dangerous eloquent fools. Margret Thatcher chucked him out, because he is a loose gun and likewise with Teresa May it seems. We joined the United Nations, which was supposed to end all wars, and look what a toothless organisation that turned out to be. It was the huge support of America, in men, equipment and money in WW2, that enabled the UK to overcome the Nazis, and free Europe. The UK also had great support from the commonwealth, and of course, it was Russia (once again with material support from America) that actually crushed the Nazis. Lets hope we have closer ties with our friends, especially, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand after we leave the EU.
We send you to fight wars, where our diplomatic efforts have failed. Well said, sir, but people now do not understand wars in that sentiment. A failure of diplomacy. They do not try diplomacy now. They do not know how to do it or do not care, as greed is driving them. Carnage, destruction , any sort of moral teachings they have not heard of. Thouo shall not covert property of the neighbour, thou shall not kill, principles of karma, one reaping results of one's actions , all have forgotten. The default is set for going to war first, then abandon and leave with a flow of affected innocents. It is all upside down logic. Your efforts to explain I salute.
Yesterday's man who was always out of touch with the basic good old Brit.... That why he was always a transparent "also run ".... No democrat at all....he always thought he was smarter than everybody else.......
I have always been a supporter of somebdy who speaks his mind, and Lord M Hesektine is definately one of them, Till this very day I cannot understand why the British public has voted to leave the EU,. True, the campaign for brexit was built "on a pack of lies" but are the British as naive? So, the play game starts with the remainers, people like Lord Heseltine, covid19, the immigrants and what have you. No country to other than the United Sates of America does it better when it comes to "self interest" and that is exactly what America did to Britain before and after leaving the EU. A lot of promises which remained promises unfortunately. The reason of coursee suspect why.
What does the answer "it just wasn't on" in 10:59 mean in the context? I don't understand it. The question was "why didn't we go forward with the Europeans to create..." Can anybody explain it please?
Yeah insult a man of service and intelligence...I remember a quote "listen the other person they may know something you dont". Listen and learn "little Englander".
His ''vision'' did not appear to include democratic debate or discussion. He was well-suited to the tinpot dictators in Brussels. It was a ''vision'' stuck in the past....created in the 1920's. Democracy ..an inconvenience.
Margaret Thatcher passed comments on various colleagues in government: Geoffrey Howe -too willing to compromise. Michael Haseltine - had everything it took in politics except brains. Keith Joseph - She had tremendous admiration for Joseph and considers him brilliant, versatile, and full of further promise. She said that he could handle any ministry and she was confident that he has been marked for higher responsibility.
Charles Moore's authorised biography is a great read. She made decisions, knew her officers and troops. Heseltine still doesn't understand why the country voted to leave the European Union. He still talks about being "at the top table " " I am doing it for you, the next generation " He doesn't realise that however much the EU has done , it is a peace exersise. It is not a fully balanced union. Germany and France set the agenda. They have protected their banks, they have built debt, their policies are policies of "put every decision off " This man is not a thinking leader, he is a follower. A good soldier who will follow orders. But no brains when it comes to solving the major problems facing our next generation. Housing, Youth unemployment, Migration, Government Debt. These issues can not be solved by consensus. They must be solved by using the same methods as Margaret Thatcher. Monetarism. And if the others don't want to go down this path we, the United Kingdom will have to part with them and seek our own destiny. It will be our choice. It is our choice. We decided at the first referendum.
Lord Heseltine continues by saying that he hasn't changed his mind and will continue to stay in that position within the Conservative party, that he has fought the Conservative party most entrenched battles (...and those of us who still remember the 80s and beyond can vouch for his claim) and will continue to do so. Lord Heseltine vehemently stresses: "BUT I will never sacrifice British self interest for narrow party purposes".Lord Heseltine reminds us that: "A PM is one of 650 people, the only thing that singles them out is that they can command a majority in the House of Commons, if they can't they are just one of 650 and that i suspect is the position in which Mr Johnsons will find himself with no parliamentary majority, and it will be abuse of our Constitution to then think that you can take Britain out of Europe despite the House of Commons." Michael Heseltine also adds that: "..Large number of Conservatives will not vote for a no deal Brexit, they will vote for whatever party appears to stand behind a European policy [...] asserting the fact that they will vote for Britain national self interest, despite the loyalty they feel for the Conservative party.." His view: ..".. large numbers of people will vote for what they believe to be Britain national self interest and therefore for a candidate that represents the European destiny to which this Country has been committed since the 1960s" Lord Heseltine states that he would be happy with a solution that leaves Britain at the heart of Europe "...the position of every Conservative leader I have worked for....we are where we are today, the most likely scenario today is continued uncertainty but in the event of continued uncertainty the worst thing to do is to add to that uncertainty by actually cutting the ground from underneath our economic strength which depends in huge measure on our membership of the European Community." Throughout history Great Britain has always been at the forefront of many incredible things and events. Perhaps, now, if 'leavers' are allowed to set our Country back to the middle ages, Great Britain will set another (unfortunate this time) precedent by becoming the first former Colonising Country to become a 'Colony' of its former Colonies, given Trump vision of the world and economics.
Oh no. I hope he doest see your cutting comment. It will destroy him. Especially all your grownup emojis - the same ones my two year old daughter uses on her messages.
@David Williams said: _Fantastic lecture from an exceptionally OK Tory._ Yes, it was a fantastic lecture. Micheal Heseltine speaks exceptionally well, shame about the content though. He should have been an historian rather than politician.
It’s ‘Lord Heseltine’, not ‘Lord Michael Heseltine’. He’s not the son of an Earl, Marquess, or Duke (unlike say, Lord Nicholas Windsor, son of the Duke of Kent). Rather, he’s a Life Peer, and so the style is ‘Lord [Surname]’ without the first name.
The price of both worlds wars for Great Britain outweighs the victory, but may be justifies the lost of british empires, the british people sacrifice the empire but created israel, that worth the loss of the empire.
@Tom W why Tom people don’t recognize israel, I believe it’s a Democratic country, it never harmed any one as democracy don’t harms, it didn’t confiscated any bodies home, towns and villages and built its nation on their blondes and blood, so why they don’t recognise her. what is antisemitic culture, what it stand for please.
Quite wrong ...it was Truman USA who first recognised Israel.... Britain was opposed to separating the Arabs and Jews at that time....go away and learn real history not crap you read from anti Semite comics.
john cordey but it was Great Britain who promised the land which she doesn’t own to some one doesn’t deserve. By doing that, it ripping off the right of people who were living their for centuries, they still have their homes, villages, towns and farms which has been confiscated by these thugs, and they are not allowed to return, what justice is that, Jew, Christian and Muslims where living in peace and harmony till the birth of Antisemite Zionism, only a over a decade required from inception of Zionism they concocted the both worlds wars, No Zionism, no worlds wars, if there no Zionism, the British empire existed and 6 million jew has not died just to give the holocaust as a toool not for Jew, but the Antisemite, anti Jew, Sabbateanian Zionist, you don’t have to believe what I say, just do your independent research, find out who are the Sabbateanian which the Zionist hate u to know.
Paul Gavin disease called Antisemite Zionism, the bloodthirsty warmongers, see what Benjamin Freedman says about the Antisemite Zionist, the Khazars, and Benjamin is a Khazars, but he exposing their reality which is chocking to some. Benjamin Freedman: The Ashkenazi are Khazars th-cam.com/video/lBMSlkEkVBc/w-d-xo.html
I can understand Michael's reasoning, but I believe his premises are wrong. The many wars and conflicts in Europe were nearly all caused by the failure of nation states, not always democratic states on the continent, to respect each other’s sovereignty. The EEC, European Economic Community, was a very successful association of sovereign, democratically accountable nation states. That worked very well. Until the odious Maastricht Treaty determined to transform this successful association into a superstate; to usurp the sovereignty of the nations. The old continental problem, which has led to so many wars. We need mutually respectful sovereign national democracies, accountable to their peoples. Not a Napoleonic superstate, with an unworkable currency, dictated by a Brussels bureaucracy.
@@alaninsoflo - Six more convicted today. And these are the ones that are not being kept secret. Multiculturalism www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-49500387
He is not talking about Brexit, is he ? Yes he is. The solution to stopping WW2 happening again is not to be ruled by Europe. We are out-voted on any decision.
@@DDDquick No, but the British way of Life: meaning British customs. When I travel to Germany, I want to eat sausages, not Kebab. And I want to hear German being spoken, not Turkish!
@ Customs evolve as society does - or should we all still live in caves and club women over the head? Migration has existed since man had legs - countries such as the USA, Australia, Canada or even cities like London would not be the same without it. Actually now if you want to eat sausages you can do almost anywhere as products are sold all over the world. I remember when you could only get unflavoured crisps in France, for example
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@@DDDquick London is now a "salad bowl" where migrant communities do not mix and where crime is rife.
@ One could say the same about Cape Town, NY, New Orelans, Moscow or Sao Paolo and none of those are to do with being in a political union with other countries. Also, these issues existed well before 1973 what with immigration from ex-colonies and gangsters so I don´t see how being in the EU is to blame.
I lost my respect when he played the race card @54min 30sec. He broke his own “rule” of not offending large groups of people when he insulted the “elederly, white conservatives”. Hypocrite.
Brexiteers are obsessed with history and empire, says man who bangs on for an hour about history and empire. The man is tragically bitter and out of touch.
Problem with Heseltine he is obsessive on a subject. He thinks he is smarter than he is but he is nothing but an arrogant, pompous man and always has been.Thank goodness he never was prime minister.
What are you doing giving this old skeleton a platform for him to slag off Brexit , he has had his time he is a has been , did he ever do any good in politics, NO.
From the 1960's, he dreamed of a United States of Europe. But it was a gigantic deceit; like Liar Heath he failed to level with the British people, democracy - a mere inconvenience.
The student near the end misrepresented Heseltine's disagreement with Peter Hitchens. Heseltine simply rebuked Hitchens for implying that 18 year old soldiers are unwise and stupid.
I did not experience the exchange with Hitchens but I suspect that rather than simply drawing attention to the way in which failure of diplomacy by governments led to young soldiers dying (the Heseltine position) Hitchens probably said young people should refuse the call to defend their country in time if war. That would certainly lead to Heseltime accusing Hitchens of being unpatriotic.
Exactly - Heseltine did not even say the word "Unpatriotic". This must be the discussion referred to starting at 4:25 to the end of the video. th-cam.com/video/iWbwIwAhsYw/w-d-xo.html
Heseltine will be remembered more so than many of his contemporaries. As a Statesman he remained committed to certain consistent considerations..formed as he mentions through historic realism and realistic reasoning. I fear for our current crop of politicians who and by profile is garnered through social media polls rather than conviction led politics. People in latter age tend to be more reflective rather than motivated. It is to Oxfords preeminence that would engage him to a packed audience
I have been a socialist all my life and will continue to be so, but truly admire this Heseltine speech and his common sense. Thank you Sir!
IDC TNZ: Well said
A sad and pathetic buffoon....a defeatist.
He's also a socialist.
@@bimmeroo0906 he was a cabinet member in Thatcher's government
@@erikc6814 Yes he was a left-liberal in the Tory Party, an infiltrator, never a Tory.
I am also happy to go down the memory lane in remembering that we used to study Heseltine's speeches with my fellow toastmasters in Ethiopia many many moons ago. A great orator, among other things.
A decent, one nation Tory. Was out of step with the right wing Thatcher. Fair play to him, he stuck to his principles and resigned over Westland and told Thatcher where to stick it. Went to Liverpool and did good work there getting investment in the city as Thatcher & Co weren't interested in Liverpool. Came very close to becoming PM in 90 when he challenged her, but fell short once Major came in to the running. A Tory grandee now and a decent guy for a Tory.
If u r no fan of Thatcher that's absolutely fine but please dont call her government right wing.. We have t had a right wing government in my lifetime
what a sensible man.
Thank you for putting the right perspective on the immigration of Indian Doctors and Nurses into UK. Needed to be said out loud!
Visionary man. Clever guy. A man with experience.
He has an impressive knowledge of history and his place in it. Furthermore, his analysis of Brexit is a rational, logical and realistic evaluation of what life outside will mean for Britain. A marginal power, diminished, adrift and with fading influence, buffeted around on the tides of bigger forces. He is wise and sees things clearly.
On another note, the questions from the students at the end were very unimpressive, they were no match for Hezza 🤝😎.
Eamonn O'Connor= well said. To those people who pose the question about 'sovereignty' they clearly failed to catch a powerful TV programme (about 2 months ago) where Michael Portillo interviewed Michael Heseltine (and many more, including Nicholas Soames - Winston Churchill grandson) and when the sovereignty question came up Lord Heseltine provided a powerful example of wisdom and intelligence by replying that sovereignty and power are inextricably linked. He provided a basic and most effective example by saying that 'the man in the desert is sovereign, BUT POWERLESS'. Lord Heseltine , throughout his political career, has consistently shown clarity of vision, commitment to the Britain self interest and national stability in order to ensure a sustainable and prosperous future for the British people. Most of us will not maintain his clarity of vision and conviction when we will get to his age...if we will get to his age. One may not agree with him, but one cannot refute his political standing (since the 1950s), vast knowledge and experience, and his incredible intelligence.
What idiotic, defeatist bollocks you cretin.
It is sad the quality of brightest young minds today. If the Oxford is like this what hope for others. They have been brainwashed by the media binaryviews and do not know how to see through the different variables with a vision grounded in your best self interests. A failure of the teachers, I guess, as there are no real debates, but brain washing by the media.
Some men pretend to do the right thing because it appeals to most people; and some do the right thing because they are righteous. Lord Haseltine, you deserve that title - the sign of a just society is one in which old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never rest under. A true father of his nation, and of the European peoples. Insieme! Unite unite Europe.
Why didn't the Tories allow him to lead the party? He strikes me as a good man.
Heseltine could have become leader. Check out the history: Heseltine himself has explained the course of events in his own videos which are on TH-cam.
Thank you for the analysis, " Power and Politics ", Save Values and DEMOCRACY. Thank you Lord Michael Heseltine.
I am so proud
You are a true Brit and a true european
It s not uncommon for retired government seniors, free from the shackles of the government whip, to suddenly become seemingly wiser and more balanced in their views of the country and world. Sadly not in this case. Firmly stuck in mode Tarzan.
This speach must be heard at schools 🏫
speech.
He would be the perfect PM
I am not in any way a Tory but those young men and women who attended were privileged to witness a speech like that from one of the greats. The lying, self-serving and corrupt former PM was not fit to lace Heseltine's or Clarke's boots.
Princess Anne may have been the best queen the UK did not have, but Michael Heleltine was definately the best prime minister the UK did not have.
People think that EU farm subsidies goes to poor farmers who are finding it rather difficult to survive. They couldn't be more wrong, where the vast majority of the money goes to the wealthy up to the super rich in Europe. I find it very amusing whenever I listen to the Euro fanatic Heseltine speaking against Brexit. One point that he never reveals on his shows, and one that LBC presenters never question his Lordship about, is that the multi millionaire with an estimated 300 million pound fortune, has received over the years many millions in EU farm subsidies from us as EU tax payers - of which the UK is one of the few EU28 that is a net contributor. You will never hear O'Brien or other media hacks reveal these facts, and neither Heseltine himself informing listeners of the conflict of interest concerning his property empire that includes over a 1000 acres of land in Oxfordshire and Northamptonshire. Subsidies that amount to income support should not benefit those that are stinking rich. However the EU refuses to address this fact and that tens of billions of euros are given every year to farmers who are extremely wealthy, of which Heseltine is one of them. Heseltine once said to a reporter, the fact that he is wealthy and receives these huge sums of money from the EU is irrelevant. Typical of the ruling elite who are anti Brexit.
Interesting! The big aid bucks in US farming tends to go the big corporations too! That is why they put “food stamps” in the Department of Agriculture! If you put agriculture back in state government by closing the D of Ag opponents scream bloody murder that you are starving people!
Farm subsidies will almost certainly continue, paid directly from the U.K. Government, after Brexit.
@@tn_onyoutube8436 It would appear that farm subsidies are not continuing. We've lost much of our main market owing to a desire to diverge from the standards of that main market, and farmers are aghast at the trade agreements signed with Australia and New Zealand. A great future indeed.
@@nautilusshell4969 if that’s true, then good! I assumed the government would have to maintain them as farmers are a key demographic and send a big message. They’re also always there at the trough for a handout while also being very heavily in favour of Brexit. (And before any warriors start on me, I live in prime farming country and can absolutely attest that every farmer I know and know of voted for Brexit).
@ Chris saltaur- a little late to the show, but to be clear - nobody with any brains ever thought subsidies were to help poor farmers (so I guess most Brexiteers do think that). Subsidies are about managing the market and the land, giving incentives to grow certain crops or to not grow anything in certain years, or indeed any years sometimes. And guess what - they are heavily dependent on how much land you have, how much you leave fallow, how much you turn over to other uses, and therefore by definition it is the richest, biggest farms and farmers and landowners who get the most subsidies. There is no issue, no lie, no cover up to address.
Sounds like yet another of the many incorrect attributions that motivated so many Brexiteers to vote to throttle our economy and ruin our markets. The others of course just wanted less foreigners- and just how is that going? Highest immigration in decades, but coming from Africa and Asia instead of Europe.
This is supposed to be an educational platform TH-cam/OxU.
Is two ad breaks in the space of 4 minutes really necessary? Switched off after 10 minutes.
Not buying Premium.
Heseltine has become a delightful old man. Where was he when he was needed? Why can't he say even now that the 2016 Referendum was driven by lies and the leave campaigner overspent and therefore its result should be declared null and void?.
Millions observed the entire shitshow from 1970 and simply said......
''we're out'',............. the project was a comprehensive failure. /
I have watched a number of OxfordUnion speakers and then the student questions. I am amazed at how naive many of these students are to the realities of the world. They want to live in an la la land that does not exist. Perhaps they are book smart but clueless to the real world.
Which everyday truths are you specifically referring to in the context of continental geopolitics?
@@alexrose5993 Hello: Look at the questions for Steve Bannon after his comments and you will see what I mean. It is clear to me the students have not had a lot of life experience to understand what they are talking about (hence la, la, land). In America we see similar attitudes with people coming out of higher education (where most of the educators have significant socialist views). The students are immersed in this line of thinking and after a few years view this as gospel. Perhaps you understand the ramifications of only getting "one side of the story". Not all students will "grow up" as they age but many will recognize the impact this has had on them as they navigate life. Sadly, this socialist breeding ground clouds the thinking of many young minds since "it make so much sense" yet in reality is a disaster waiting to happen, IE Venezuela. You have to understand that in order to allow most people of the world to prosper you need to remove the obstacles that hold them back. You need to reward for hard work not punish. Yes, there are people born into this world that are not given a fair shake (mentally retarded, etc.) and society needs to help. Unfortunately, there are evil people in this world who will put a knife in your back the moment you give them a hug. TH-cam: Dinesh D'Souza and learn from him. You will not hear this in a classroom. He may not change a persons thinking but he will give a different perspective on important issues.
Alex, if you are a student at Oxford (which college ?) make the most of the opportunity you are given. Good luck to you! Thank you for reading my thoughts.
Appalling stupidity, ready to accept any pap, and not even as well-trained as in the past!
Not a Tory, but agree with this man totally on Europe.
He was chucked out of parliament because of being a power hungry crook and is still the same !
Comrad Heseltine only lies when he speaks.
@zulfiqar Tareen this made me laugh. You aren't even European
zulfiqar Tareen except the eu isn’t democratic in that it doesn’t vote for its leaders, and can do what it wants !
It removes the abilities of countries to adjust their currencies when they get into trouble ( resulting in Greece’s young population with no jobs whatsoever and no medical care whatsoever and thrown all the rest to the dogs ) you need to remember that the eu is a trading block and not a country, but it’s acting like a country and unless it changes it will fall !
Ps the eu even built a 300 mile wall on the turkey border to keep out migration and plan an eu army, ironic ⚠️
Jonathan Bowen no they don’t because the last leader was chosen not voted for !
I’m a big fan of tony Ben ( he worked there as a minister ) and Peter shore regarding the eu, they thought it was a cabal of anti Democratic old Masonic men who act like a country when it’s in fact a trading block of nations !
@@onlygazza, sounds like you've been sniffing glue.
In the hateful remarks you realize how right wing the Brits are and still think they are a great nation. They always had a sense of arrogance toward the colonies that they exploited.
Everyone else takes a seat, Michael decides he wants to stand at the podium
It cannot be denied he Is a hugely successful man in every sense. It's simply his unyielding belief in a federal Europe with which I disagree.
Do you still hold this view now that we know what a disaster Brexit is?
Very interesting that he completely miscalculated the British people..
I think you meant to write "didn't want to drive the country off a cliff with moronic xenophobic stupidity".
Like One Nation left-wing Tories, he arrogantly thought he could ram
through EU ever closer union and impose it on the British people WITHOUT
a word of consultation.
He got his come-uppance when his party got smashed at the 1997 GE.
.....48% to 52% was not a complete miscalculation, of the electorate let alone the 'British People', as only 26% of which voted for Brexit!!
@@bimmeroo0906 Its what we singed up to in 1973, all set out in the Treaty of Rome 1957 that we signed!! So, no it was not being 'rammed' through in the 1990's, and in 2016 he told the people to 'wake up' to reality and not be seduced by nationalistic fake nostalgia for the echo of Empire populist claptrap....just enough didn't!!!
@@bryangeake5826 In addition the referendum gave a vote to fresh-of-the-boat commonwealth citizens, while denying the same to long settled EU nationals (disgraceful). The referendum was designed to pass.
The war as nothing to do with the issue now we joined a trading block nothing else
Comrad Heseltine needs to remind his audience that if Englishmen try to defend England's Borders today they will be branded as white supremacist Nazis.
@yorkshire lad
said:
_The war is nothing to do with the issue now. We joined a trading block nothing else_
Exactly YL.
Heseltine is arguing by association and emotion, not logic. He also plays the moral card. And many of his contentions are contrived or circular. He is a convincing speaker, but then the world is full of dangerous eloquent fools. Margret Thatcher chucked him out, because he is a loose gun and likewise with Teresa May it seems.
We joined the United Nations, which was supposed to end all wars, and look what a toothless organisation that turned out to be.
It was the huge support of America, in men, equipment and money in WW2, that enabled the UK to overcome the Nazis, and free Europe. The UK also had great support from the commonwealth, and of course, it was Russia (once again with material support from America) that actually crushed the Nazis. Lets hope we have closer ties with our friends, especially, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand after we leave the EU.
Did you actually hear what he said ?
@@BEGGARWOOD1 said:
_Did you actually hear what he said?_
Nah, I fell asleep.
@@phonicwheel933 if you won't listen to what he (former cabinet minister) says on the subject, why do you expect anyone to listen to you?
We send you to fight wars, where our diplomatic efforts have failed. Well said, sir, but people now do not understand wars in that sentiment. A failure of diplomacy. They do not try diplomacy now. They do not know how to do it or do not care, as greed is driving them. Carnage, destruction , any sort of moral teachings they have not heard of. Thouo shall not covert property of the neighbour, thou shall not kill, principles of karma, one reaping results of one's actions , all have forgotten. The default is set for going to war first, then abandon and leave with a flow of affected innocents. It is all upside down logic. Your efforts to explain I salute.
Yesterday's man who was always out of touch with the basic good old Brit....
That why he was always a transparent "also run "....
No democrat at all....he always thought he was smarter than everybody else.......
I have always been a supporter of somebdy who speaks his mind, and Lord M Hesektine is definately one of them, Till this very day I cannot understand why the British public has voted to leave the EU,. True, the campaign for brexit was built "on a pack of lies" but are the British as naive? So, the play game starts with the remainers, people like Lord Heseltine, covid19, the immigrants and what have you. No country to other than the United Sates of America does it better when it comes to "self interest" and that is exactly what America did to Britain before and after leaving the EU. A lot of promises which remained promises unfortunately. The reason of coursee suspect why.
A client of mine sat next to him at dinner once. He says all Heseltine wanted to talk about was himself.
What does the answer "it just wasn't on" in 10:59 mean in the context? I don't understand it. The question was "why didn't we go forward with the Europeans to create..." Can anybody explain it please?
*"Old guys rule - the older I get, the better I was."*
We remember Shell and Unilever leaving the Netherlands for lower tax morals.
The Truth
Globalist, defeatist propaganda.
Yeah insult a man of service and intelligence...I remember a quote "listen the other person they may know something you dont". Listen and learn "little Englander".
@42:50 😂 He is a visionnaire and that lady asking the question seemed like she doesn’t give a f about his simple answer
His ''vision'' did not appear to include democratic debate or discussion.
He was well-suited to the tinpot dictators in Brussels.
It was a ''vision'' stuck in the past....created in the 1920's.
Democracy ..an inconvenience.
Margaret Thatcher passed comments on various colleagues in government:
Geoffrey Howe -too willing to compromise.
Michael Haseltine - had everything it took in politics except brains.
Keith Joseph - She had tremendous admiration for Joseph and considers him brilliant, versatile, and full of further promise. She said that he could handle any ministry and she was confident that he has been marked for higher responsibility.
Don't think she was right on Heseltine, he surely seems intelligent. Or maybe she wanted to say something else.
Charles Moore's authorised biography is a great read. She made decisions, knew her officers and troops. Heseltine still doesn't understand why the country voted to leave the European Union. He still talks about being "at the top table " " I am doing it for you, the next generation "
He doesn't realise that however much the EU has done , it is a peace exersise. It is not a fully balanced union. Germany and France set the agenda. They have protected their banks, they have built debt, their policies are policies of "put every decision off "
This man is not a thinking leader, he is a follower. A good soldier who will follow orders. But no brains when it comes to solving the major problems facing our next generation.
Housing,
Youth unemployment,
Migration,
Government Debt.
These issues can not be solved by consensus.
They must be solved by using the same methods as Margaret Thatcher. Monetarism. And if the others don't want to go down this path we, the United Kingdom will have to part with them and seek our own destiny. It will be our choice. It is our choice. We decided at the first referendum.
@@malcolmfraser7939 : Sounds like you're looking to redeem the purity of our eternal nation.
After having listened to this video I think Thatcher was spot on.
You are right: he has NO brains!
Lord Heseltine continues by saying that he hasn't changed his mind and will continue to stay in that position within the Conservative party, that he has fought the Conservative party most entrenched battles (...and those of us who still remember the 80s and beyond can vouch for his claim) and will continue to do so. Lord Heseltine vehemently stresses: "BUT I will never sacrifice British self interest for narrow party purposes".Lord Heseltine reminds us that: "A PM is one of 650 people, the only thing that singles them out is that they can command a majority in the House of Commons, if they can't they are just one of 650 and that i suspect is the position in which Mr Johnsons will find himself with no parliamentary majority, and it will be abuse of our Constitution to then think that you can take Britain out of Europe despite the House of Commons." Michael Heseltine also adds that: "..Large number of Conservatives will not vote for a no deal Brexit, they will vote for whatever party appears to stand behind a European policy [...] asserting the fact that they will vote for Britain national self interest, despite the loyalty they feel for the Conservative party.."
His view: ..".. large numbers of people will vote for what they believe to be Britain national self interest and therefore for a candidate that represents the European destiny to which this Country has been committed since the 1960s"
Lord Heseltine states that he would be happy with a solution that leaves Britain at the heart of Europe "...the position of every Conservative leader I have worked for....we are where we are today, the most likely scenario today is continued uncertainty but in the event of continued uncertainty the worst thing to do is to add to that uncertainty by actually cutting the ground from underneath our economic strength which depends in huge measure on our membership of the European Community."
Throughout history Great Britain has always been at the forefront of many incredible things and events. Perhaps, now, if 'leavers' are allowed to set our Country back to the middle ages, Great Britain will set another (unfortunate this time) precedent by becoming the first former Colonising Country to become a 'Colony' of its former Colonies, given Trump vision of the world and economics.
Looks like John Cooper-Clarke
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Tory Psycho - Mad Mike :(
Heseltine = "Mad Mike"
He was great in Snatch
Mr heseltine had everything to be a politician except a brain 😮😮😮
He was a charlatan, another liberal who infiltrated the Tory Party.
What an inane piece of crap
Oh no. I hope he doest see your cutting comment. It will destroy him. Especially all your grownup emojis - the same ones my two year old daughter uses on her messages.
Fantastic lecture from an exceptionally OK Tory.
@David Williams
said:
_Fantastic lecture from an exceptionally OK Tory._
Yes, it was a fantastic lecture. Micheal Heseltine speaks exceptionally well, shame about the content though. He should have been an historian rather than politician.
Well said, operative words being 'exceptionally OK', because he truly is
any organization allowing this drivel merchant to vent his spleen on your premises simply loses all credibility, if you ever had any!
Brexit going well is it?
Please get his name right. He is Lord Heseltine. The Christian name is only included if a man is the son of a Duke, Marquess or Earl.!
It’s ‘Lord Heseltine’, not ‘Lord Michael Heseltine’. He’s not the son of an Earl, Marquess, or Duke (unlike say, Lord Nicholas Windsor, son of the Duke of Kent). Rather, he’s a Life Peer, and so the style is ‘Lord [Surname]’ without the first name.
Who gives a flying f*ck what the creep is called?!
I clutched my pearls too. Utterly *SHOCKING* error.
The person who typed it is guilty of treason at the very least
Non
in 30:48 he says something like "with heavy at what university" what does it mean?
Heseltine is a bluff, but a clever snake.
jeez, he's meant to be conservative. delusional and thoroughly out of touch.
ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT starts at 24:00
@Igy Pop
said:
_ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT starts at __24:00_
That's about the strength of it IP. 😩
The price of both worlds wars for Great Britain outweighs the victory, but may be justifies the lost of british empires, the british people sacrifice the empire but created israel, that worth the loss of the empire.
And yet still countless countries refuse to acknowledge Israel as a country. And antisemitic culture from these countries is bleeding into the west.
@Tom W why Tom people don’t recognize israel, I believe it’s a Democratic country, it never harmed any one as democracy don’t harms, it didn’t confiscated any bodies home, towns and villages and built its nation on their blondes and blood, so why they don’t recognise her. what is antisemitic culture, what it stand for please.
Quite wrong ...it was Truman USA who first recognised Israel.... Britain was opposed to separating the Arabs and Jews at that time....go away and learn real history not crap you read from anti Semite comics.
john cordey but it was Great Britain who promised the land which she doesn’t own to some one doesn’t deserve. By doing that, it ripping off the right of people who were living their for centuries, they still have their homes, villages, towns and farms which has been confiscated by these thugs, and they are not allowed to return, what justice is that, Jew, Christian and Muslims where living in peace and harmony till the birth of Antisemite Zionism, only a over a decade required from inception of Zionism they concocted the both worlds wars, No Zionism, no worlds wars, if there no Zionism, the British empire existed and 6 million jew has not died just to give the holocaust as a toool not for Jew, but the Antisemite, anti Jew, Sabbateanian Zionist, you don’t have to believe what I say, just do your independent research, find out who are the Sabbateanian which the Zionist hate u to know.
Paul Gavin disease called Antisemite Zionism, the bloodthirsty warmongers, see what Benjamin Freedman says about the Antisemite Zionist, the Khazars, and Benjamin is a Khazars, but he exposing their reality which is chocking to some.
Benjamin Freedman: The Ashkenazi are Khazars
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Well, remainers already agreed with him, while brexiters did, do and won't not listen to him. Very good speech that is basically a waste fo time.
I can understand Michael's reasoning, but I believe his premises are wrong. The many wars and conflicts in Europe were nearly all caused by the failure of nation states, not always democratic states on the continent, to respect each other’s sovereignty.
The EEC, European Economic Community, was a very successful association of sovereign, democratically accountable nation states. That worked very well. Until the odious Maastricht Treaty determined to transform this successful association into a superstate; to usurp the sovereignty of the nations. The old continental problem, which has led to so many wars.
We need mutually respectful sovereign national democracies, accountable to their peoples. Not a Napoleonic superstate, with an unworkable currency, dictated by a Brussels bureaucracy.
Oh look, Heseltine has escaped from the Natural History Museum again. Quick send him back and nail the door shut this time.
You must be planning not to get older!! Good luck with that.....
Economic freedom heat maps show a great correlation with prosperity.
why do they keep on digging up this old fossil ?
He's sad because he will lose over 90,000 pounds a year in EU farming subs.
Rich Harvey he won’t the U.K. government will continue to pay farmers .
He will as the new subs will be for food production not just for sitting on land
LOL!
He's worth £264million! - £90k is around 0.033% of that.
Like saying someone on £30k a year is desperate for a tenner!
This argument is often trotted out, but it literally doesn’t add up.
Heseltine cuts a rather desolate and intellectually dishevelled figure now. Clearly well past his sell by date as indeed he was back in the 1980's.
@AJ17 wasn't that old in the 1980's, Einstein. You clearly missed the point.
Why say that? This was a decent speech by a man of his age
The man behind the albert dock revival, when thatcher wanted liverpool washed down the drain.
Liverpool sowed it's own seeds of disaster.
"United States of Europe" should be considered a derogatory phrase.
It was created and on the drawing board from the 1920's
to effectively replicate the Soviet Union.
Watch Tommy Robinsons Oxford speech on this channel. Shocking and eye opening
Shocking that the little knuckle dragger can even speak in whole sentences.
Yes, let's all kneel to Israhell like Rabbi Robinson.
@@alaninsoflo - Six more convicted today. And these are the ones that are not being kept secret. Multiculturalism www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-49500387
@No sos Vos, soy yo China & Bolivia are both highly multicultural. Nearly 250 languages are spoken in Cameroon. Utter nonsense
Alan Stevens, apparently Tommy gets high marks for certain non-grammar content from some.
Are you a leftie? Lefties love ad hominem attacks.
He is not talking about Brexit, is he ? Yes he is.
The solution to stopping WW2 happening again is not to be ruled by Europe. We are out-voted on any decision.
Pretty much like the current minority government!
@@DDDquick - it became a minority 10 your before you made that post.
Traitor to our Country
Doesn't this guy realize that Brexit is also about preserving a way of life, and NOT just about economics!
You mean preserving a way of life before 1973?
@@DDDquick No, but the British way of Life: meaning British customs. When I travel to Germany, I want to eat sausages, not Kebab. And I want to hear German being spoken, not Turkish!
@ Customs evolve as society does - or should we all still live in caves and club women over the head? Migration has existed since man had legs - countries such as the USA, Australia, Canada or even cities like London would not be the same without it. Actually now if you want to eat sausages you can do almost anywhere as products are sold all over the world. I remember when you could only get unflavoured crisps in France, for example
@@DDDquick London is now a "salad bowl" where migrant communities do not mix and where crime is rife.
@ One could say the same about Cape Town, NY, New Orelans, Moscow or Sao Paolo and none of those are to do with being in a political union with other countries. Also, these issues existed well before 1973 what with immigration from ex-colonies and gangsters so I don´t see how being in the EU is to blame.
I hope I have his clarity of throught and purpose in 23 years from now, cause the hair, forget it...
I lost my respect when he played the race card @54min 30sec. He broke his own “rule” of not offending large groups of people when he insulted the “elederly, white conservatives”. Hypocrite.
Brexiteers are obsessed with history and empire, says man who bangs on for an hour about history and empire. The man is tragically bitter and out of touch.
Evil old man… only hears what he wants to hear….
Problem with Heseltine he is obsessive on a subject. He thinks he is smarter than he is but he is nothing but an arrogant, pompous man and always has been.Thank goodness he never was prime minister.
Sadly I think he is a very bitter and angry old man.
And a total fraud too.
What are you doing giving this old skeleton a platform for him to slag off Brexit , he has had his time he is a has been , did he ever do any good in politics, NO.
How's that 'freedom' working out for you now, Gavin?
From the 1960's, he dreamed of a United States of Europe.
But it was a gigantic deceit; like Liar Heath he failed to level
with the British people, democracy - a mere inconvenience.
Good garbage
The student near the end misrepresented Heseltine's disagreement with Peter Hitchens. Heseltine simply rebuked Hitchens for implying that 18 year old soldiers are unwise and stupid.
I did not experience the exchange with Hitchens but I suspect that rather than simply drawing attention to the way in which failure of diplomacy by governments led to young soldiers dying (the Heseltine position) Hitchens probably said young people should refuse the call to defend their country in time if war. That would certainly lead to Heseltime accusing Hitchens of being unpatriotic.
Exactly - Heseltine did not even say the word "Unpatriotic". This must be the discussion referred to starting at 4:25 to the end of the video. th-cam.com/video/iWbwIwAhsYw/w-d-xo.html