King George V - Professor Vernon Bogdanor

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  • It was during the reign of George V that constitutional monarchy reached its maturity. www.gresham.ac...
    It came to be taken for granted that the powers of the sovereign would be used in a genuinely impartial way. This proved of particular importance with the advent of the first Labour government in 1924. George Vs reign coincided with the fall from power of five emperors, eight kings and eighteen other dynasties. But in Britain the monarchy gained in popular esteem and this helped to preserve parliamentary government in the difficult years between the wars.
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  • @shannonflaherty353
    @shannonflaherty353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I love the letter he wore bake to the little boy. That was so sweet and kind. You can tell alot about a person for the way they speak to children.

    • @mcmulcat
      @mcmulcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Too bad he treated his own children so brutally.

    • @susanbuffington1750
      @susanbuffington1750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prince John, such a tragic child.

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@susanbuffington1750 George V didn't treat Prince John badly at all - he was indulgent with him compared to the other children.

    • @stephaniemurria5534
      @stephaniemurria5534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mcmulcat he wasn't that bad of a father.

    • @andreishade2964
      @andreishade2964 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad they cared little for children in their colonial realm . Its like that the late Queen answered ( her lady in waiting ) to children in Sevastopol ( Crimea , Russia) , but did everything ( through Teresa May and Boris Johnson) to ensure suffering of hundred of thousands children of Donbass ( Eastern Ukraine) and continues till this day by British made artillery and Inlaw , Brimstone mussles . How are the children fared of Diego Garcia archipelago? What about Children of Iraq? Have They ( Britain , US , Nato ) provided safe passage for children of Mosul, before cutting off water , sewer , electricity ?!! What was the reason again that British intelligence provided for invasion?! If History taught us anything , is that of British Monarchy cynical two-faced double dealings . Till this Day . By the way , He ( king George) looks alike like two water droplets with Imperator Nikolai 2 ( last Russian Tzar) . Weren't they cousins ? Did They try to help his Royal Cousin ? Or had they just appropriated Tzars Nikolai's family money in the London Banks?

  • @sarahstrong5927
    @sarahstrong5927 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    when people said Churchill would destroy the noble virtues of the Royal Navy upon is appointment as First Lord of the Admiralty he replied...." Do you mean the virtues of rum, the lash and sodomy...???"

  • @jamgirl86
    @jamgirl86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My favorite Monarch. Flawed but endlessly fascinating.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And very handsome too

  • @dawnbowra9349
    @dawnbowra9349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    My grandfather worked for king George V and queen Mary as a grenidier guard. A boy solider. A musician for the royal family. Pop left in 1925 for Australia with a trade in carpentry as a. Ten pound Pom. He had a land grant and lost it during the Great Depression. I have a butter knife from the table of KingGeorge VI when he visited Western Australia in the 50's that my grandmother gave to my mother. How he Aguirred it is a story that remains a mystery. Though we know he was involved in building kings park memorial gazebos after the First World War and a air raid warden in the 2nd WW.

    • @BillKing8888
      @BillKing8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Queen Mary is said to have been a kleptomaniac so look at it as just settling the score.

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BillKing8888 lol lol lol

    • @bobgilkes3888
      @bobgilkes3888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lll

    • @saraswatkin9226
      @saraswatkin9226 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BillKing8888 apparently she only collected the Crowns of Europe from fallen heads.

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR ปีที่แล้ว

      Today's education - that Australia suffered air raids during WW2! Thanks for that

  • @paulinekenefick2215
    @paulinekenefick2215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Very informative. Great insite into the difficulties faced by Btitish monarchs. He did his best .

  • @christianestaninger6589
    @christianestaninger6589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent series. Excellent speaker

  • @bobdaniels7866
    @bobdaniels7866 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    He was right for England at his time.

  • @stevendaniel8126
    @stevendaniel8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a young man, he was incredibly handsome.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To me he was always handsome

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was handsome as an old man too

    • @mikeanagnostou4399
      @mikeanagnostou4399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He bore a striking resemblance to his first cousin Tsar Nicholas II. Victoria truly was “the Grandmother of Europe”

    • @sycwk5874
      @sycwk5874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mikeanagnostou4399Actually, they are maternal cousins, their mothers are siblings (Dagmar and Alexandra)

  • @CarolynFahm
    @CarolynFahm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Excellent lecture series. Looking forward to the next one.

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    An excellent talk by Professor BuggerBognor.

    • @rory4605
      @rory4605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George V was actually insulting Bogdanor on his deathbed, despite dying 7 years before he was born.

    • @dariusanderton3760
      @dariusanderton3760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rory4605 a man of great foresight

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would probably have said.
      " Bogdanoff ?!?.......Tell him to bog
      off ! ! "

  • @lauramorarelli4720
    @lauramorarelli4720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really interesting lecture I love the life of British monarchs they are so different

  • @SomeSmallFish
    @SomeSmallFish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    He seemed flawed, though I guess we all are, but he's probably my favorite British monarch.

    • @timeandspace_3.142
      @timeandspace_3.142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you elaborate as to why he's your favourite?

    • @jamgirl86
      @jamgirl86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I adore him. Endlessly fascinating.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jamgirl86and very handsome

  • @johnmurray8428
    @johnmurray8428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clear, concise and informative. Thank you.

  • @sarahhall738
    @sarahhall738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My great great grandfather was in charge of the royal train during his reign. He was based at Liverpool Street station london

  • @Inverted-Compass
    @Inverted-Compass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome, Thank you.

  • @rory4605
    @rory4605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Nowadays we don't know what political views the private secretaries to the monarch hold"
    Sir Edward Young is the current one. He's previously been an advisor to Michael Portillo and William Hague, hmm, I guess we'll never know!

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, he's a Lefty!

    • @TheBlueTheMan
      @TheBlueTheMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s a fair bit of nuance behind these appointments, it’s not just he worked with tories he’s a Tory.
      One of Gordon Brown’s advisers is now an exec of Saatchi & Saatchi, for which most advertising campaigns by the tories are made by Saatchi & Saatchi

  • @cressyxlx4711
    @cressyxlx4711 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the upload. Very interesting 💜

  • @JRobbySh
    @JRobbySh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder what his opinion is of the recent mess. Surely he seems now to accept Elizabeth’s passivity as helpful to the country. I wonder when history is written we will discover she has had any role at all since the ‘60s.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Her role was to bring stability to her people and keep the UK united. Its called united kingdom for a reason

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I've watched all three videos so far, and Professor Bogdanor has proclaimed *all three* to be *"the ideal* constitutional monarch". LOL

    • @bigfan2710
      @bigfan2710 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      RonJohn63 I think he refers to George V as "an ideal constitutional monarch" but I understand your point.

    • @jema9735
      @jema9735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was, in that he stayed out of politics and just about all else.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There isn't a blueprint -different monarchs have done things a bit differently as they are not in teh same historical period. One of the main requirements is to be dutiful which George V was and also George VI and the present queen. And they've all stayed out of politics.

    • @ane-louisestampe7939
      @ane-louisestampe7939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently he doesn't know Margrethe II ;-)

    • @karinlawrence6500
      @karinlawrence6500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@glen7318 All stayed out of politics... except for that little Australian incident in 1975 when the democratically elected Labor Prime Minister was - with the signature of Queen Elizabeth 2 - dismissed from Parliament... and a conservative party prime minister installed in his place.

  • @lenwilkinson672
    @lenwilkinson672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed the talk. On King George. V. Very revealing and sympathetic feeling for the King.

  • @simplelifelost
    @simplelifelost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Prof. Bogdanor is much more generous towards George V’s stamp collection than David Starkey.

    • @williamhicken1206
      @williamhicken1206 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Starkey is not generous to anyone or anything.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No doubt George "s collection was more impressive than little David's ?

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 ปีที่แล้ว

      To Starkey, the stamp collection epitomizes the banal about George V

  • @andreishade2964
    @andreishade2964 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He looks astonishingly like Tzar Impereror Nikolai II ( the last of Romanov )

    • @annied4084
      @annied4084 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Both look alike as their mothers were sisters. Both took more out of their mothers features rather than their fathers.

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Queen Mary... The women who saved the monarchy 1910-2022...

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both George and Mary saved the monarchy

  • @fdebate2663
    @fdebate2663 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Like Your Lectures. And. Enjoyed Your Lecture On BBC News On Smaller Political Parties.

  • @catgladwell5684
    @catgladwell5684 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have just been looking at images of York cottage Sandringham. It doesn't look like a glum little villa to me. The furnishings are of the period (in the photographs) but anyone who considers it a small house should have a look at what ordinary people live in in the UK. I wonder what they would think of a terraced house or a typical semi.

  • @rabidrabbitshuggers
    @rabidrabbitshuggers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His simplicity kind of reminds me of Ulysses S. Grant.

  • @carlousmagus5387
    @carlousmagus5387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Sovereign should be able to Veto Legislation, and Palarment able to override it with a two thirds majority.

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To grant one in an unelected position power could be a most regrettable turn of events...and one not easily corrected. Look how long it's taken to get rid of a monarchy. Oops.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 ปีที่แล้ว

      Given the absolute shower we have at the moment - both main
      parties ! - might be best if just dismissed the lot of them and did it himself. ? Couldn't be much worse.!

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mortalclown3812 wrong

  • @BillKing8888
    @BillKing8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It sounds less like government by parliament than by dinner party.

  • @jeffreystreeter5381
    @jeffreystreeter5381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous lecture.

  • @squareinsquare2078
    @squareinsquare2078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came here looking for a fight between King George and Professor Vernon Bogdanor.

  • @TreforTreforgan
    @TreforTreforgan ปีที่แล้ว

    ‘My, King George, what big eyes you have!’
    ‘All the better to not see you with’

    • @lynndenault4212
      @lynndenault4212 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like Princess Beatrice

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 ปีที่แล้ว

      His eyes werent as big in his youth. It was probably from his illness

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GodisMyNo1 He had the prominent Hanoverian eyes that many of the descendents of Queen Victoria inherited.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zzzbbbooohis eyes were gorgeous, nothing wrong with them

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David windsor... The reason we got elizabeth york 1926 - 2022

    • @TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods
      @TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We would have gotten her anyway, since she was his successor (Edward VIII was childless).

  • @dianesicgala4310
    @dianesicgala4310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think a wonderful king.

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jimmy thomas.. Quality

  • @rory4605
    @rory4605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    38:51 I'm pretty sure no one's ever laughed that hard at a Vernon Bogdanor joke.

    • @douglasweber2401
      @douglasweber2401 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love his dry sense of humor and do laugh at his quips.

  • @tatuloa
    @tatuloa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The irony was , the rulers of the first global Emperial power understood the power of shared power , while lesser societies produced commoners who lusted for absolute domination ..

    • @MN8
      @MN8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      commoners are noble and regal

  • @williamneumyer7147
    @williamneumyer7147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh, it was "the common people" who signed Charles I's death warrant? Really, Mr. Lansbury?

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe he meant the House of Commons?

  • @-TimZambra
    @-TimZambra 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How many died in that meaningless war?

  • @Juizysphelim
    @Juizysphelim ปีที่แล้ว

    Listening to his Christmas message ( and thinking also of Churchill’s numerous speeches) where did the current speech affectations and accents of the upper classes come from?

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 ปีที่แล้ว

      They developed over time

  • @psychosneighbor1509
    @psychosneighbor1509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it just me or is George V actually Tzar Nicholas? They're twins...

  • @tegneblok
    @tegneblok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    which author did he read ? 00:01:25

    • @cortwilliams7509
      @cortwilliams7509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I was wondering that too couldn't quite make it out

    • @BernardCastle
      @BernardCastle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Walter Bagehot.

  • @Humanophage
    @Humanophage ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised nothing was said about his relationship with his murdered family in Russia.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im glad nothing was said. This isnt about the overrated Nicholas, but for George

  • @Adrian-yd8fk
    @Adrian-yd8fk ปีที่แล้ว

    Spoiler alert, this a very interesting lecture but it King George v Prof Vernon Bogdanor is NOT a fight

  • @greghigdon3005
    @greghigdon3005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a tedious Christmas message.
    So I guess you could say that George V was not a party animal...

    • @suzanking5625
      @suzanking5625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George V read at a Grade 3 level. He was semi literate. Diplomatic correspondence shows everyone knew. So, I guess you could say that George V was as dumb as a box of rocks and not quite as useful.

    • @johntuffin3262
      @johntuffin3262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It is not the function of the king or queen to be amusing, or glamorous, or a party animal.

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This was recorded in the early days of radio. Apart from the fact that it was the King making the broadcast, all messages and speeches were delivered with much more formality in those days. Why compare today's standards on everything that happened in the past?

    • @Larkinchance
      @Larkinchance 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zzzbbbooo George V had a reputation for being tedious.. probably played a part in his son debilitating stutter..

    • @Larkinchance
      @Larkinchance 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@suzanking5625 A box of cobbles

  • @chel3SEY
    @chel3SEY ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm baffled why the King's political views matter at all. They should be totally irrelevant. The sovereign isn't a politician. A constitutional monarch should keep his own political views to himself at all times. The more we know about the sovereign's views, the worse he is as a sovereign.

  • @dontcare7086
    @dontcare7086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As hard as he tried to hide his German heritage you can clearly hear it when he speaks. It is a weird mix between British English with some words pronounced like a German speaking English.

    • @ds1868
      @ds1868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doesn't really matter. English is a Germanic language, the English invaded the island of Britain in the 5th and 6th centuries. The Angles from the northern German Baltic coast set up the kingdom of East Anglia, the Jutes from the Jutland peninsula set up the kingdom of Kent, but the larger invasions of the saxons from Northern Germany set up the other Engljsh Kingdoms most notably Wessex and Mercia. It doesn't matter the Hanoverians were German, they just retook the land they had already taken over 1,200 years before.

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t hear any German accent

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ds1868 “the English invaded Britain” um what

    • @cjdewingmlis
      @cjdewingmlis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@Patrick3183The geographic area known as the British Isles was originally populated by the Celts. The land was invaded by Germanic tribes (Jutes, Angles, and Saxons) from Northern Europe. They became the English.

  • @user-le3jw8rs6b
    @user-le3jw8rs6b 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    عندي عملة الملك جورج الخامس ذهبية وزن خمسة باوند عام 1911 وزن خمسة باوند مع اختام

  • @nilecrocodileRobyn
    @nilecrocodileRobyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bit of a bore. Liked shooting lots of animals.

  • @carmenvergara-labrin6069
    @carmenvergara-labrin6069 หลายเดือนก่อน

    George V Le Traître

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      George didnt betray anyone. His duty was only towards his country and he did that well. The tsar had cousins all over Europe. George wasnt his only cousin. Why didnt the other cousins help the tsar?

    • @carmenvergara-labrin6069
      @carmenvergara-labrin6069 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GodisMyNo1 George V était le monarque le plus important après le Tsar Nicolas II. Il disait lui-même "adorer" son cousin de toutes les Russies et n'hésitait pas à ajouter qu'il était son "préféré". De plus, il était le parrain d'une de ses enfants. Politiquement parlant, le Royaume-Uni était l'allié de la Russie pendant la première guerre mondiale. De plus la Tsarine Alexandra avait vécu en Angleterre et reçu une éducation anglaise selon les souhaits de sa grand-mère la grande Reine Victoria. Elle était sa petite fille préférée. La famille royale britannique, par tradition, était très proche de la famille impériale. Bien plus que les autres royaumes. De plus, et ce n'est pas rien, lors de l'arrestation à domicile du Tsar Nicolas II et de sa famille proche, George V, par l'intermédiaire de son ambassadeur en Russie, présenta immédiatement son "soutien" au Tsar lui laissant croire à lui et au monde entier qu'il les sauverait. Pour cette raison, dès l'abdication obligée du Tsar Nicolas II qui ne fut ni plus ni moins qu'un coup d'état, dès qu'il fut fait prisonnier chez lui avec les siens à Tsarskoïe Selo, l'empereur fut mis au fait que le roi George V était prêt à les secourir et qu'un bâteau serait mis très vite à sa disposition pour partir vers l'Angleterre. Le Tsar commença donc à préparer ses affaires pour le départ. Les autorités russes d'alors et les pays voisins comprirent que la famille impériale rejoindrait les terres britanniques. Seulement cela ne se produit pas. Bien au contraire. Le temps que le roi George V passa à faire miroiter à son "cher cousin Nicky" l'aide qui ne vint jamais, fut du temps perdu pour le Tsar Nicolas II qui ne put trouver d'autre solution. George V savait parfaitement ce qu'il en coûterait de retirer sa main. C'était la mort assurée.
      Un vrai Roi, un vrai Monarque où qu'il soit, décide et ses ministres suivent. Ne me faites pas croire que cela était impossible. Ne me faites pas croire que le roi du Royaume-Uni n'avait pas cette autorité. Alors oui. George V Le Traître.
      "Shame on you Georgi." Journal intime du Tsar Nicolas II, 1917

  • @mohamedbinelias3246
    @mohamedbinelias3246 ปีที่แล้ว

    World app win full Pakistan