Every new pandemic starts as a mystery | David Quammen | TEDxBozeman

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  • @filippofinelli7379
    @filippofinelli7379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’ve recently finished to read his book “Spillover”, Quammen is a genius, nobody listen to him before his speech, but today we have to learn about our mistakes and take care animals, us and earth, to no more live another pandemic like today

  • @tkenglander6226
    @tkenglander6226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Everyone in that audience is remembering his talk every day now . . .

    • @beaubarri2243
      @beaubarri2243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely

    • @priority-mediaorfamilysola4416
      @priority-mediaorfamilysola4416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      0 virus
      Millions are AWAKE

    • @KatJ3st
      @KatJ3st 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      too bad so many are in denial of basic biology and the fact NO government can orchestrate mass mind in order to destroy all the tax payers - by vaccine

  • @KatJ3st
    @KatJ3st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They need to broadcast this on national television NOW

  • @TerlinguaTalkeetna
    @TerlinguaTalkeetna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    David's work as a writer has long presented information about the natural world in ways that my little brain has grown with each encounter. His voice is one that is rooted in curiosity and insight. What a gift in world of mindless talking heads.

  • @ElephantRage
    @ElephantRage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Watching this from Milan, Italy, epicenter of Coronavirus European contagion, Feb. 2020.

    • @kiczara
      @kiczara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Be safe. Best to you and your family and friends. ❤️

    • @timbatimbero3934
      @timbatimbero3934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As another especies on the planet we cannot be anthropocentric. We are going under sooner or later. We will reach critic mass soon. Sorry but true. How true.

    • @Tropper73
      @Tropper73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wish you well!

    • @AJ-xm4xc
      @AJ-xm4xc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Watching from the United States of America, March 2020, we now lead the world in corona infections.

    • @Sharma-xw6ml
      @Sharma-xw6ml 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you still alive ? If you are. stay safe

  • @bencourtwright
    @bencourtwright 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow it’s crazy at the end he said we are all in this together. So true.

    • @mightyea
      @mightyea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No we are not in this together.

    • @ishrendon6435
      @ishrendon6435 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@mightyea we all suffer from death and disease in the end

  • @murdo_mck
    @murdo_mck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This talk had just 8 comments before 2020.

    • @vimalmohan1568
      @vimalmohan1568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hoomans never learn😂 we all will die soon

    • @niburuexus
      @niburuexus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vimalmohan1568 Hoomans?

  • @sunmeetkaur7387
    @sunmeetkaur7387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When humans realize that we are all connected and not above other animals and have appreciation for nature rather than destroying it then we as humans can make better choices for ourselves and the other animals that we share this planet with.

  • @bboyneon92
    @bboyneon92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Watched it. Shared it with my peers.
    COVID shouldn't have been a surprise at all. It was waiting around the corner of our events. We're exactly where we're supposed to be.

  • @1stMilcom
    @1stMilcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    thanks for the upload, I am here because of his article in New York Times

  • @marcosaureliodasilva338
    @marcosaureliodasilva338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A exposição do Prof. David é excelente. Um acadêmico que fala para todos os públicos. Obrigado prof. David por nos ensinar coisas assim tão importantes sobre o surgimento, a evolução e a disseminação de vírus.

  • @Sharma-xw6ml
    @Sharma-xw6ml 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Who's watching this when Corona is about to hit 1 million infections 😳
    One year later: Corona at 174 million cases and a vaccine has been made

    • @ShariRose11
      @ShariRose11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@annasong6261 make that 1,098,434

    • @carlwessels2671
      @carlwessels2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Corona is a problem, but for just one example H5N1 flu has tried to break out. It has averaged 34 per cent fatality rate. Conditions are favorable in Egypt and Asia. Human to human transmission has only been H1 H2 and H3. If H5 gets loose it will kill a lot more people than Corona

    • @TonyShyaka
      @TonyShyaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1.2 million now

    • @ameerlouly6628
      @ameerlouly6628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watching after it hit 2 Mill........

    • @edmilner
      @edmilner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1,341,907

  • @blairhakamies4132
    @blairhakamies4132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    HIV 1908 amazing. Great learning talk. Thanks to the organisers. Congratulations and thanks to David. 👏

  • @aentropy
    @aentropy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm reading Spillover right now. Damn this guy foresaw what was coming.

  • @tambayanmusikahanattalakay9179
    @tambayanmusikahanattalakay9179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    How we didnt listen to this guy?

  • @bostonmetalclips
    @bostonmetalclips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Watching in self isolation. Boston/2020

  • @mylittlehouseofrescues8797
    @mylittlehouseofrescues8797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent prophetic talk! Explains a lot about COVID.

  • @amediarts
    @amediarts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very attractive presentation of Viruses.
    Unfortunately it is closely relates to our current situation of global quarantine.
    Thank you TEDx.

  • @Mx-veganworldby2050
    @Mx-veganworldby2050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Watching this and thinking > WHEN ARE WE GONNA LEARN ❓

    • @carlwessels2671
      @carlwessels2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We won't learn. We will keep doing what we are doing till collapse stops us

    • @justwatchingnothingmore
      @justwatchingnothingmore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We never learn!

    • @angianggia4409
      @angianggia4409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably never. I watched the other video of Bill Gates talking out "the next outbreak" and saw a bunch of conspiracy comments stating Bill is the one being responsible for trying to depopulate bla bla bla. Whereas, there are also tons of videos talking about the same topic warning us about the potential virus outbreak. That just implies stupidity is human nature that can not be changed. Even I don't understand why these videos about scientific facts/information like these have almost zero attention compared to the music video, show, entertaining stuff... bla bla. Oh well, I'm probably saying too much now, so I'd just shut up..

    • @stuffnuns
      @stuffnuns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like South Korea and New Zealand learned.

    • @Mx-veganworldby2050
      @Mx-veganworldby2050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mitchel Evans , Oh? These countries went plant based yet?

  • @ssa6227
    @ssa6227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At this time we need small videos with information such as this packed in so that people would care to watch.
    Long stories turn off people.

  • @HappiestVeganonEarth
    @HappiestVeganonEarth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    We need to leave animals alone. Let them live their own lives, without destroying their habitats, exploiting them, and breeding them. That's the only way we have a chance of surviving.

    • @ArtMaknev
      @ArtMaknev 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meat markets in China....

    • @Jc-do4fy
      @Jc-do4fy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happiest Vegan on Earth but animals are soooo tasty!

  • @coachhbosoccer
    @coachhbosoccer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not sure why this popped up on my feed🤔 but I'll watch

  • @blondecaveman9100
    @blondecaveman9100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome talk thanks David :)

  • @tomhartman342
    @tomhartman342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just read "Spillover". Amazing prescience and well written.

  • @mauramicheletti2118
    @mauramicheletti2118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching from Brescia 🇮🇹

  • @JEWilliamsOMD
    @JEWilliamsOMD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone should read and listen to David Quammen. He explains why it's important we pay attention to zoonotic shared diseases. On this planet, we're all connected. We, humans, are animals, with the same biology as other mammals, a part of Nature. We share the same planet.

  • @nathalie1156
    @nathalie1156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Fighting against the virus from Africa, wishing you all health.

    • @tkenglander6226
      @tkenglander6226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hope you stay healthy and safe too!!

    • @Kannot2023
      @Kannot2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He came from China, stop spreading false information

    • @darleneglenn3857
      @darleneglenn3857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi from san Jose CA ❤️

  • @b.h.9846
    @b.h.9846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember one of his sentences: "If you shake a tree, something will fall out".

  • @aaronshah5697
    @aaronshah5697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He talk 6 years ago, but actually happen this year

  • @cerimite7674
    @cerimite7674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All of our present politicians should be required to watch this video, 'all three branches'. One can see the simple ignorance in too many of them, even at the state level.

  • @hanyuanchang8252
    @hanyuanchang8252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "We are all in this together"

    • @mightyea
      @mightyea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, we are not. European diseases with European practices..

  • @massimoacerbis8138
    @massimoacerbis8138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today is a must view

  • @reshmithramesh7110
    @reshmithramesh7110 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this from India during the second wave of Covid-19 pandemic in 2021. A carnage happening in the country right now. (5/15/2021)

  • @nicolairomanoff4652
    @nicolairomanoff4652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am buying all his books about viruses 👍

  • @benheisenberg2633
    @benheisenberg2633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this for extra credit for college BIO during lockdown lol

  • @ramseso.cuellardelucio2503
    @ramseso.cuellardelucio2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This aged well

  • @xyzsame4081
    @xyzsame4081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Juni 2021: How does this have only 103,000 views ? - So we were shopping for trouble in the last 20 - 30 years, with international travel and logging trees, and ruining natural forests and habitats. And leaving developing countries alone. One reason why they log and eat bushmeat ? They would need some help to manage and set up forms of regenerative agriculture, and raise animals under hygienic conditions.Then humans could keep to their habitat and have fewer interactions with wildlife. Humans that feel economically and otherwise secure also do not have as many children (seems to be a survival of the species thing), and if regions develop it also becomes easier and affordable ! for women to get and use birth control.
    Speaking of which - he forgot to mention big ag and factory farming of animals, that is the next breeding ground of a virus causing a pandemic.

  • @cydrickclark9133
    @cydrickclark9133 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching here from philippines

  • @angelamaria2239
    @angelamaria2239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    February 2021: still having the pandemic covid 19. This talk was 7 years ago! 😓

  • @beautyofnature4280
    @beautyofnature4280 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb... 👍

  • @Innocenti_Jasmine
    @Innocenti_Jasmine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why are we not listening?

    • @nathalie1156
      @nathalie1156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We only take actions when it is already too late!

    • @chrisparkes
      @chrisparkes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Capitalism. Because unless it’s profitable it won’t stop until it’s affecting the economy.

    • @TheLegenDacster
      @TheLegenDacster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisparkes Excellent comment. Bravo.

    • @Tony-uq8tn
      @Tony-uq8tn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Becsuse Humans are the biggest virus.

  • @Mayrita77
    @Mayrita77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they take his phrase "we are all in this together" to make that song that would play over and over in commercials during COVID?

  • @icnohelp
    @icnohelp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Louisiana, USA

  • @MahekMehta91
    @MahekMehta91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How it comes and how it will go.. it will always be mystery. Pandemics are like that only. Hopes and prayers for everyones good health and joyful existence. 🙏

  • @kardoyle
    @kardoyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🌟⚡️And here we are .....2020 ⚠️

  • @anthonyghantous3052
    @anthonyghantous3052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Who's watching this when Corona is about to hit 2 million infections 😳
    *Coronavirus Cases*:
    1,934,557
    10:18 AM - GMT

  • @TopBackdoor48
    @TopBackdoor48 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Spanish Flu: I’m the greatest pandemic since The bubonic plague.
    Corona Virus: Hold my beer.

    • @13thmistral
      @13thmistral 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spanish flu was still worse....let's first see how this goes...since heh...we are not near the end of this.

    • @donwayne2433
      @donwayne2433 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spanish flu was cause by radiation.

    • @stuffnuns
      @stuffnuns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, Don, it was caused by my mom.

    • @stuffnuns
      @stuffnuns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What the “Spanish” Flu had, was a world at war, with Governments purposely ignoring the news about it. that allowed it to spread. They also didn’t have the types of PPE we have now, nor the communication network we have. Tho some nations are acting without intelligence(which nation would that be?), the proper protocols are out there, and the lockdowns are slowing the spread. So, we MIGHT not see the 30-50 million dead the SFlu gave us, if we’re lucky.

  • @mm-ie3uu
    @mm-ie3uu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All these diseases were never there in humanity.but now they errupt we as human have destroyed forests made air water polluted destroyed many species of birds and animals this earth is for all living beings and not only for humans we have to learn to coexist and respect right of animals to survive to avoid future pandemic

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of these diseases would transfer regardless of respecting animals or not

  • @WG-tt6hk
    @WG-tt6hk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many came here today 04/15/2020 ?

  • @cubananitabell8141
    @cubananitabell8141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi from Italy ....

  • @mybarcelona95
    @mybarcelona95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Read his book Spillover. So good.

  • @NondescriptMammal
    @NondescriptMammal 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fascinating subject, so I was disappointed at how thin his talk was on information.

    • @carlwessels2671
      @carlwessels2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Read Spillover it's 520 pages. It gives a lot more info

    • @TonyShyaka
      @TonyShyaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man. If we had watched this like 5 years ago

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TonyShyaka if you had watched , what would be different today?

    • @TonyShyaka
      @TonyShyaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobjorgenson9285 Not really sure to be honest. Maybe be better prepared as a planet?

  • @MahekMehta91
    @MahekMehta91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't it enough for humans to stop eating animals and birds ??

  • @sdachannel7331
    @sdachannel7331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ascolta anche… LECTURES 2020-INCIPIT: "Spillover" di David Quammen (Adelphi 2014)

  • @andrewhyogo
    @andrewhyogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skip to 0:42 for the presentation.

  • @ivanaristizabal1
    @ivanaristizabal1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is alive, He knows about the COVID-19

  • @sukieBoo66
    @sukieBoo66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Covid-19: 2,9991,071 cases as of today Sunday April 26, 2020.

  • @Sharma-xw6ml
    @Sharma-xw6ml 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn this was when the 2013 outbreak was happening

    • @xyzsame4081
      @xyzsame4081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And he had started his quest in the late 1990s. Humans (and the rich nationsleading the way) had been shopping for trouble the last 20 - 30 years. it was just a question of time - and all the wrning shots were ignored.

  • @kimjongduex7431
    @kimjongduex7431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope this never happens

    • @photodoc100
      @photodoc100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kim Jong Un
      How is nk going ?

  • @cazador1022
    @cazador1022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    no borders...

  • @trabiccolo879
    @trabiccolo879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big critters that you can see...how well he tells stories. There's a storytelling Virus...I tell you a story tonight, and you tell someone else tomorrow.
    This man is a literate storyteller, nothing else.

  • @coinkritik
    @coinkritik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ted knew the pandemic...

    • @aaronshah5697
      @aaronshah5697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the virus born in the lab

    • @0davydebrycke328
      @0davydebrycke328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaronshah5697 born aka mutated

  • @joesansone3867
    @joesansone3867 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let nature take its course😷

  • @tomlaureys1734
    @tomlaureys1734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In his speech he never offers a solution to the problem of disruption of animal habitat. He never gets to the root cause of logging and building. As long as human population continues to increase their will continue to be an increased demand for building new housing. He doesn't make one single proposal for how to decrease human population or at least to stop the increase in human population. He doesn't make one proposal as to how to convince people to have less children.
    So the way I see it is that if we won't voluntarily limit our population growth than the viruses will do it.

    • @babytho.4006
      @babytho.4006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Viruses and PlanDemic are one way of reducing populations of human.
      Let all creatures including viruses to leave.
      Humans need to stop distraction of the nature.

  • @FlaviusMaximus1967
    @FlaviusMaximus1967 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    David Quammen states that the darkest of Darwinian truths is that "humans are animals. We humans are animals. We are part of nature." How is that the darkest of Darwinian truths? How can that be thought of as "dark"? That makes no sense...

    • @blackphilip8369
      @blackphilip8369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because humans tend to think that they are not subjected to the negative side of nature's rules and regulations. Such as a virus that would kill the majority of us with nothing we can actually do.

  • @fa1576
    @fa1576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    who did that...?

  • @TheMabes69
    @TheMabes69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's like Gabon is the colon of the world, lol

  • @Meatball613
    @Meatball613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cant believe were in a pandemic!

    • @peytonquinn3095
      @peytonquinn3095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      DENIAL,it's not just a river in Africa :)

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? He is telling you how it works

  • @888mf4
    @888mf4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ahead of your time

  • @xovux
    @xovux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Song name?

  • @cherylm2C6671
    @cherylm2C6671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get a shot! Dammit, how did he know???

    • @braedenmahar597
      @braedenmahar597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because epidemics/ pandemics have existed for a very long time in human history. It was only sooner or later that a big one would hit us eventually

  • @joshbando9611
    @joshbando9611 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are David guammen

  • @harinam6257
    @harinam6257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When are you going to learn and stop eating anything that moves? What is the WHO doing to curb peoples tongues? We have foxes and other wild life living in our cities but you don't see them being slaughtered for the plate. Gauranga, Gauranga, Gaurrrranga

  • @litestuf
    @litestuf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Judas... this man is a prophet.

    • @blackphilip8369
      @blackphilip8369 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. He is a man who studied the subject all his life.

  • @darleneglenn3857
    @darleneglenn3857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And people still eating bats and any other creature they can kill and put on their plates.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    alguem em 2021

  • @Kannot2023
    @Kannot2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why? :) 2020

  • @stevebano5874
    @stevebano5874 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *....Really, it didn't come from the Plum Island Government Research Center which they wanted to move to Kansas...?*

  • @blackphilip8369
    @blackphilip8369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can please anybody stop with the word PROPHECY, please? is triggering me big time. Words are important. There is nothing prophetic about this speech. Science and studies are the words you may use instead.

    • @stuffnuns
      @stuffnuns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get you, but like the Oracle of Delphi, scientists were telling us what was, and is, happening. They told to be prepared, warned us, but as the Delphic seer was ignored, sadly, so were the scientists.
      Why? ‘Twas inconvenient for their profits...

  • @thesumeriangod5421
    @thesumeriangod5421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine when Ebola breaks out again! It will make this Covid-19 seem almost fake. Haha

  • @195t0343
    @195t0343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏👏👏🙏💓✝️

  • @cazador1022
    @cazador1022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    also globalism

  • @ArtMaknev
    @ArtMaknev 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No animals no diseases? Hmmm

    • @carlwessels2671
      @carlwessels2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When we destroy the animals and their habitat, we give their diseases a choice, adapt or die. Those diseases are much more adaptable than we are. We are destroying more so those diseases are jumping more frequently

    • @carlwessels2671
      @carlwessels2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If we destroy the whole natural world,we will get a flood of diseases jumping to us. Which will probably make us go extinct

    • @vonalysongreg2780
      @vonalysongreg2780 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlwessels2671 i couldn't agree more 😢😢😢

    • @nikkieshankar5641
      @nikkieshankar5641 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are we not animals!?🙃

  • @fa1576
    @fa1576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it is not from animal, it is man mad as covid19....now the world know...

    • @carlwessels2671
      @carlwessels2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ad far as I know humans have never created any virus from scratch. We may be able to modify them or put them in conditions conducive to mutation, but not create a new one

    • @Polosak
      @Polosak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlwessels2671 bro, virus patents decribes them as inventions. I think they invent them for vaccine research?

    • @carlwessels2671
      @carlwessels2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Polosak Thanks

  • @selgmz9850
    @selgmz9850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    time traveler

  • @0davydebrycke328
    @0davydebrycke328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    On planet earth we are the virus Wu-Han Hu-man

  • @debbiesdbest
    @debbiesdbest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see your studies, this is the most speculative arm chair science

  • @sdachannel7331
    @sdachannel7331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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