(Cascade, Deconstruct) Izanagi's Burden + Edge Transit + Rain of Fire
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- LightFall | Destiny 2 Season of the Wish | Grasp of Avarice DPS Test
Izanagi's Burden + Edge Transit(Cascade Point, Deconstruct)
00:00 Sticky Grenades test | Moving boss, Stationary boss(slight movement at the end)
00:24 Sticky Grenades | Surge(void x3), Radiant, Super
01:08 Augmented Drum | Surge(void x3), Radiant, Super
01:51 Loadout
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Lesson learned. Cascade+Deconstruct works best on stationary boss and on either warlock/hunter (no manual reload needed) for highest DPS and total damage.
Any class on Strand with Thread of Ascent, though objectively a bit slower than dodge/air dodge.
Izzy cascade swap only works on something that auto reload ALL your weapons (RoF does, hunter dodge doesn’t). I can only think of two exotics that do this: RoF, and Dragon’s Shadow.
@@Minth_aaayou can simply use a second sniper if it really bothers you to not have the consec shots from izi. Yes is much slower since you have to aim izi, rehone, swap, aim sniper, instead of just aiming izi, shoot 2x, rehone, but doable on all classes. Also the stasis fragment technically reloads all weapons as well for all classes but obviously only hunter is going to have a good time with that.
@@soraneptune4178 I’m not counting double special since it only works for ability-spam builds (Sunbracers, Hammer Titans, Arc hunters). And like you said, stasis is balls for everyone except hunters (Even then you’re missing out on a SES Blade barrage or Nighthawk Goldie if playing on stasis).
@@Minth_aaa Double special is easily viable if you're using an adclear special . you just need to be more mindful of ammo. I use indebted or forbearance with izi all the time. Is a more "sweaty" loadout for sure but definitely don't count it out. Stasis hunter definitely out paces even goldie in certain rotas. Stasis hunter enables certain rotas that solar hunter doesn't. but yes under normal circumstance you would definitely use solar over stasis even on hunter. Definitely not agreeing with counting out double special though. It is very viable even when not on the "op" ability spamming builds. And even solar hunter has a couple of those, namely caliban's and that one double knife charge exotic are both actually pretty decent now. Also titans have never been good at gun dps so not much point talking about them since you're sorta expecting to be doodoogarbage at gun rotations on titans.
Supremacy>Izzy. Kind of wild the best rotation doesn't even involve an exotic, supremacy, wilderfright, edge transit. In pantheon I've been running felwinters helm Wavesplitter mountaintop edge transit (with the same roll). Wavesplitter feels insane for addclear and since it's focused on orbs it allows me to do the same and thus always have special finisher when I go for the debuffs and invis. It procs cascade very quickly, quicker than if I miss a single shot with a rapid fire sniper, faster that the draw time of trinity ghoul. so while I have to reload between plates it's not a huge DMG loss. Plus with surge mods, the weapons buff, my debuffs and a well, it does 61k DPS which is respectable considering I don't need any loadout swaps and with mountain top hitting like 130k instantaneous with recomb, the loadoat is just as high DPS as supremacy+wilder for 2 mag DPS and while it does dropoff, it will still consistently beat out Izzy since hitting those 2 shots with a 90rpm is a big timeloss.
just use izi sniper if you are going to be using a sniper anyways. Supremacy actually has lower swap dps than izi even with rehone. While shooting an extra shots on what is effectively a no perk adaptive sniper is a bit of a timeloss, you're not using bait here so you don't even need to shoot a third weapon.
@@soraneptune4178 while izi rehone has a higher swap time than supremacy, edge transit has a higher swap time than izi rehone does. Just because the special weapon has a higher swap dps doesn't mean that it is best in the rotation. If you can proc cascade faster and get back to the edge transit with its higher swap time, that can be better. Using izi also forces you to run rain of fire for cascade point which you might not want in a team setting. You have so much reserves on this weapon that being slower on izi might not let you get out full reserves in a day 1 scenario as an example, so you might rather run father's sin for surge match or supremacy in that setting as well.
@@soraneptune4178 L take, Chicken tested my setup and it did 400k more dmg
It’s finger cluckling good :D
I was pretty confident this was going to be the end result. Thanks for making a video that reaffirms my maths of cascade bait > cascade decon, there were alot of people who believed that decon was better in a 28/30s dmg phase lol.
It's because he's wasting time. Izzy is too lazy and too slow. Stop nerfing yourself just empty the entire GL. Or run hunter lucky pants rotation. Izanagi is the most trash shit you can use, bro is wasting 2 whole seconds for a trash shot when he doesn't even have to switch just spam decon
And sorry I just recognised your name. You would think using Decon like it's bait and switch is how you're supposed to use decon💀💀💀💀
@@user-ko3sd9qj2hah yes shooting 2 izi shots back to back is definitely how you would use bait. Stop being goofy man jesus. I do agree rain of fire is not better than stasis hunter or solar hunter with goldie but like jesus why do you like being objectively wrong so much.
@@user-ko3sd9qj2h Also I want to just mention that he did in fact empty full reserves with augmented (yes i know augmented is pretty mid compared to spike) , and used all but 3 shots with sticky nade. As previously established cascade decon is only better when you run out of heavy compared to cascade bait. In the cascade bait video , chicken used stasis hunter (no dmg super but better swaps and buffs lucky dmg) and only had time to shoot off like 1-2 slug shots after running out. Therefore in a 28 second dmg phase with that exact rotation cascade bait > cascade decon. You can make an argument about ammo economy in multi phase situations and your team somehow doesn't pop out bricks with all the current ammo generation stuff but you can't make an argument for it in a single phase dps situation. And just "spamming decon" without proccing cascade is absolutely god awful dps. Literally way lower than just using envious bait.
Just a FYI,
decon + super -> 3 Mill. With 6-8 shots left depending on decon
Env. + BnS + super 3.2 Mill with 0 or 2 shots left.
Now you gotta add on cascade to the decon + super one which should give it a ~ 1.3 multiplier so roughly 3.9 million. Those numbers are only theoretical tho. I'd assume 3.4
How did you stop Persys from moving?
Persys has an AI that stops moving when it reaches a certain distance from the Guardians
@@Chicken_SI-2 ok ty for the answer :) i don't know why but he always just walks into my face.
Yippeeeee
Chicken supremacy with kinetic tremors is far better for this from my testing.
Also wen u try out the cascade bns one do kinetic tremors, wilderfligjt n edge transit. Good dps for well like 3mil something
Would like to see a dmg test like that too, but without wilderflight. Only
Supremacy + edging (cascade decon)
And
Supremacy + edging (cascade decon )+ star eater
I know it makes little difference but I’d love to see this without throwing the nade. Solar nades with touch of flame can introduce some randomness
They weaken bosses this season, so it would definitely be weaker. What kind of randomness do you mean with touch of flame?
@@eyeONE_Official the orbs or blobs on the touch of flame solar nade are random. So if you throw a nade a boss the number of hits from the grenade could increase or decrease based on that rng
@@treymanz9387 the nade itself would not be significant lol. Like the other guy said though it would be considerably lower since they debuff right now.
@@treymanz9387 ah yea well. you shouldn't be too concerned about that, as they're not your main dmg source. Just treat them like a tool to apply the debuff. Solar Grenade has the highest lingering duration = longer debuff time.
Maybe I’m missing something but why sticky nades?
it makes deconstruct work better, one shot counts as 3 or something
Do you purposely shoot extra shots after the boss is immune or is that the macro?
Yes he is purposefully shooting 2 to proc cascade point
@@SlongestKongest he meant after the boss gets immune (end of damage phase). I think he does it to fill the 28 seconds maybe idk
@@eyeONE_Official o yeah oops
Idk prob for fun/ to finish the dmg rotation
test with warden law + stasis hunter please
Wait that izzy 2 shots then charge 😅
Proc cascade point
He charged it before he makes the 2 shots. Due to Rain of Fire you can have 4 bullets in the mag but still have 1 charged shot. Should work the same way with Hunter dodge.
@eyeONE_Official wow that's so clever thanks
hmm I expected better, honestly. thanks!
Can someone explain this Izi tech?
Two shots to proc cascade
Rain of fire reloads all weapons, not just equipped weapons, so it looks like load your x4 honed edge, air dodge reloads it back to 4 shots but you keep the honed edge, so you shoot the x4, then a x1 for cascade, load x4, dump edge transit, air dodge, rinse repeat
@@blueknightcraze6766 ahhhhh neat that it works like that
Wait until he uses Witherhoard Sniper and then swaps to Lucky Pants Malfeasance to 1 phase
Oh I so wanna see the hunter rotation again but with witherhoard buffed malphy and debuff to see just how high we can get the numbers for one phase.
All of it combined though may actually necessitate a raid boss
Pretty creative use of rain of fire reloads but yeah not sure about deconstruct here tbh.
People really tripping over 2.75m with no damage super? Also you can get similar results with a kinetic tremors supremacy and that lets you run sunshot.
And its nerfed...
too much time on izzi
he used all his heavy though
2.7 million is still good dps.
@@kassaken6521 can still do better
@@daveadams8712 kinetic loaders
@@kassaken6521 he needs kinetic loaders for izzi
Bless the lords above i was finally granted a godroll wilderflight i no longer need this dumbass dungeon
Bwaak
Stop reloading iza. Rof reloads all of your guns. Just shoot twice, empty edge, dodge, swap repeat. No reload needed
he’s reloading easy for the honed x4 shot