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For those offended by me saying that you can only win a fence if you’re a professional trim carpenter, please understand this - I’m not insulting homeowners and DIY, of course you could still use this fence and find great value in it. But the inventor of the fence wanted to make sure it got to somebody who would use it everyday. A production trim carpenter will be super blessed by this! Hope that clears up any misunderstanding 😃
Makes sense. As a DIYer, weekends and the occasional day off during the week are my times to "shine." Definitely not running tools every day!
I’m all three. And also upholstery. In DTLA artist district. We specialize in restaurants, bars , cabinets and Formica all around trim for crown. Amazing work to show Richard.
@@Ih8googlefuyvggfvgg look at my face and love it! Lol
I wasn’t offended. Giving to a person that will get the most out of it makes sense to me. Do I want to win it? Heck yes! But knowing it will go to someone that needs it is more important. It’s not the wants that matter, it’s the needs.
Will be good to see it go to someone that will use it daily to improve their business!!
"and if you don't buy this I still get nothing"... you are a comedian for sure.
Followed you for years now. I've been eyeing that fence since you got it. I do quite a bit of trim carpentry in the remodel world. Trying to get into more new construction/high end remodel work like you have with hull millworks. Great group of guys you have out there in Texas, very inspiring. Thank you
Gotta say-very interested in this and it's cool to see all the features. Just a DIYer though and it absolutely makes sense to go to a pro. Help them be more productive, take their jobs to the next level, enjoy their job more... I think it's a great thing. Glad to see you guys partnering up in this way. Thanks for the great content, as always.
Thanks for this video. I've been doing this for a long and always appreciate learning ways to improve the quality of my product and make the job more efficient and easier on me. Nice fence.
Awesome to see more detail on this fence. I’m a cabinet guy so do a good bit of crown and the fence looks like it would work great for that.
That fence is awesome, sucks I’m just a peasant home owner 😞
There is a bunch of homeowners who buy Tesla for a toy, so why feel guilty for buying this instead?
Just ordered one. I almost ordered V2 a while back but something stopped me from pulling the trigger. Glad I waited! I’m excited to use this when it comes in.
Question, moving the fence out by adding a layer changes the pivot point to be behind the fence. Which would make the zero clearance slot wider when turning angles, no?
My thoughts exactly 😂
If you are a fixed fence miter saw owner I understand your concern. That is why we added the t-slot across the back so it can be positioned and you’re not cutting into it all the time.
@@KizenEnterprise i didn’t notice that. That is super smart. Good engineering and thank you for the answer
Man as soon as you said “zero clearance fence insert” I knew I needed it. Can’t believe no one has thought of that before!
Because its a xtra cost for the user to be buying those inserts..peice of plywood works just fine.
Looks great, besides adding more weight. Fastcap crown fence has been a great upgrade, especially since it swaps out with the original fence
The zero clearance insert is what I was looking for. Very nice. I was thinking, if the fence system didn't have it at that price, well, fail. Again, glad to see it. As a woodworking hobbyist, I wouldn't want to take the opportunity to own a Kizen fence via this giveaway from a professional trim carpenter who would probably use it daily. Good idea to have some qualifications.
Sweet design. We cut massive crown regularly, and the sliding fence stop would be a game changer. We've always used a more traditional handmade plywood stop, but sometimes the crown is so big that the stop gets slid out over the miter button on our D780, making it next to impossible to access. This looks like the ticket.
love how the fence works and all the addons work with it and the amazing angle jig works in with the fence and xero cut how out standing is it
As a DIYer, I only plan on trimming one whole house. And yet I still see value in this fence system. Time is money and I can see this thing saving me a lot of time. That being said, I think it is cool that you are giving this too a true carpenter and not a hack like me!
Thanks for the great videos, I always learn something new and appreciate how down to earth and practical you are while maintaining high levels of craftsmanship!
Great video! I’m a carpenter and home improvement contractor and have learned a lot from watching your videos. You have gotten me out of a few binds. Would love to try the fence on my Bosch miter saw. The extreme angle fixture is especially helpful.
Just installed this fence on my Kapex this afternoon. Looks like you had the same issue as I did, I could only get one cam clamp on the left side of the saw due to the cut of the factory fence.
Thanks for introducing me to the Titan fence system its awesome. Like you chanel and you style more about the work then the hype,
Kizen
This Festool is the best finish saw I've ever used and I've used them all.
that is so cool . i have made many but this is a an excellent design . another new item i did not know of .thankyou
Looks like a great system!
Finally got out on my own and started my business.
Always looking for what will make the job easier and have less hand made jigs laying around.
Northtree Woodcraft out of London, Ontario, Canada!
I remember the exact video of you talking about the things you didn't like about festool, many years ago. After using the domino, I was hooked!!
I'm a DIY'er, and I would definitely buy this Kizen fence set up.
Bro, love that fence. Im tired of making my own wood jig!!!
Superb system! Thanks for making this video. I’m going to head right over and follow him
Okay, by far the best setup out there hands down! I have a home made system now, but I could put this use for my small business. Only thing is I'll have to wait till the end of the contest Lol. Keep up the great content man
Let's all bow our head in a moment of silence for festool
Excellent piece! I’m a cabinet maker and I followed you since day 1! Of course I want one of those!
We get offended by jerks; you sir, are not a jerk - love your passion
I always enjoy your videos and the style of work you do. That fireplace mantel build is clean man! Keep up the good work!
I’ve been trimming houses for 4 years and would love to try one of these fences!!
Great video! The fence looks awesome. The added height, crown stops and stop block features would be so great to have. I see this being an addition to my Dewalt DWS779 in the future for sure.
My name is Taylor Garrison I am a restoration finish carpenter! I have been following your Dewaukita franchise for years as well! The first video I saw you were building out stool and apron windows in your home, talking about protecting your floors ;) I would use that fence like no other My DWS780 is yearning for it
Nice advertisement. What’s “marine grade” plastic? Waterproof?
Love the review of the Kizen fence. Man can’t call myself a finish carpenter yet but it’s what I love to do most. Thanks for all your great videos. Helping me get better. And giving me ideas.
is a nice fence upgrade. seen your reviews and use of your other versions. keep it up my man.
Festool definitely won't hate you, and hopefully will appreciate you for raising the Kapex up to a gold standard! As for me, I keep using my Incra miter sled and box joint jigs on my Bosch table saw. So far, Bosch has never harassed me about it.
That setup seems to be pretty clever and will be a time saver and make for more accurate work.
I respect his reasoning. Nothing wrong with what he decided to do. It’s like a guild, he is just helping a fellow worker
That fence system would be sweet!! Love your content man keep it up, I definitely have become a better trim carpenter from watching your videos.
This looks awesome. Any thoughts on Fastcaps crown stop fence?
It’s a bit different but I think I prefer that (not that you asked me). One important thing you don’t lose with FastCap is the pivot point because for DeWalt at least it goes on top of the short factory fences vs sitting in front. The saws are designed with that pivot point as the reference when you turn them, so you lose that by putting this fence on the front of the factory fence. This definitely has more functionality though.
Would love to give this fence a try, seems like it has everything you would need.
Would love to give that bad boy a try at work. Already trying to improve my game.
I already follow Tom as well 😁
That looks like a sweet set up!
That's micro stop is super awesome!!
I have been loving your videos for years. Ca glue miters ever since I seen you do it. That fence system would look excellent on my new Milwaukee miter saw.
There are times that being a retired trim carpenter sucks. This is one of them because now I have to buy my own Kizen fence instead of winning one. Great product and would have been on my saw for sure.
Or when you are still plugging away at it but don't have an Instagram account with a bunch of pictures on it. I would love to have one.
Would be a great addition to an efficient setup. I like the ability to easily have a stop block for short pieces of material. Would love a chance to win it and enjoy your content!
That saw is insane. Definitely will have one in the future
Save your money, get another saw..its not worth the price
@@freddyramirez1820 really? Why’s that. I’ve used dewalts,hercules, and Milwaukee not so much festool.
@@CanisCarpentry ive been using a dewalt for yrs, figures i see whats the hype and i got the kapex..the 1st thing is the cut depth, being used to 12" blade, going down to a 10" just doesnt cut it..if anything that one of the main flaws until they make a 12" festool.. nxt the laser wasnt even accurate out of the box, you can adjust it, but time and $ adjusting everytime you switch the blade id its diffrent kerf is not ideal, the shadow line the dewalt light makes is more practical, kinda suprised Festool doesnt have a light and laser for the $..nxt the dust skirt gets in the way, i like to score the top before a cut all the way thru, the skirt will be in the way if you want to do this, you have to do a chopping motion instead of sliding motion..lastly the motor didnt run smoothly on mine and i didnt like it, sounds like it bogs up, i was cutting 8/4 walnut and it couldnt even get thru that, i could only imagine Oak..just didnt seem powerful enough, sure you can adjust the rpms but the power feels weak..i returnd mine, wasnt worth the price tag for me, couldnt even beat out the dewalt for me..i orderd the 12" makita, we will see how that works..but for damn near half the price i can deal with it no being perfect, but the price tag on the festool just didnt make justice with all the BUTs i had..
Man, I’m going to need to get one now. I’ve known about them for a while but version 3 is where it’s at
This 3.0 version looks freaking awesome!!!!
Well shit. I’m just a homeowner. But this trim carpentry life looks appealing
#1) I'm not commenting to win the fence. #2) I love your channel and have followed you for a long while (since way before you were famous, lol). I am old enough to be your mom and you remind me greatly of my youngest son (Colin) who went to heaven in 2022. He was really funny (like you); really talented (like you) in a different field. (Actually, you look alike. We used to tell him about the TH-camr who resembled him.) He was a restoration specialist out of Boston for historical finishes. Brent would have loved him (they may have known each other? Not sure).
#3) Anyway, I also do restoration, but of furniture and architectural components (such as doors). I love wood craft, but I'm limited. What I WANTED to tell you is, when you're explaining a process I begin to hear all the words and then it turns into "Sapitae owper uewao a ealg;ag".... LOL. But, I am totally fascinated with your knowledge, skill and basic talent. Thank you SO much for always making me laugh. So tonight or sometime soon, have one on Colin and toast him in heaven. 🥰
Awesome piece of kit. Would save sooooo many jigs being made and altered for 100’s of jobs. Definitely interested in getting one. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
I'd love to have one of these. Starting out on my own as a trim carpenter and this would help a lot.
'Not for the DIY' maybe that's why you did not give me that speed square. You want proof. Although I did get over 50 thumbs for an injury as a teen.
Pretty awesome. Hopefully one doesn’t ever cut the fence by mistake
I am a hobbyist because I don't do it by trade but I do trim work weekly because i love it.
FLEX 12 inch Sliding miter saw
We prefer the Fastcap fence mod over the Kizen on our saws. You don't loose cut depth.
That’s all good but you are still setup to do one thing. The table problem is now the fence problem. Setup time again if you needed to cut something else
@@KizenEnterprise Which hasn't been an issue for us whatsoever. Solution for a problem that doesn't exist for us.
Drool! 🤤 Form and Function, the Kizen fence has both. Id love to try it out
Looks like a great setup. I just can’t bite the. bullet on the kapex. I just don’t like the feel of it. But that new fence is awesome!
A great addition for the excellent Festool saw!
Done. Hoping my trim saw gets some new bling!
Add a clamp attachment to the extreme angle
There is nothing better and more comfort to use than Dewalt mitter saw. I bought that Makita 40V 12 inch and I hate it!! This saw looks almost the same
I'm truly impressed with this system not big fan if drilling into the factory fence but it is nice. I can see many benefits from using this system.
Hard choice between this and the fastcap fences. Think the zero clearance insert is great.
Kizen Mitre Fence is a system design for people using a mitre saw for more than just crown moulding. Great in shop and on the job and also also on not just one saw brand
Awesome video. Love the fence
Damn this wood step my game up. Looks really cool!!😮
Would love to see a breakdown video of all the features in use.
Love the videos. I watch them all. Was hoping for a new mantle video but this sufficed well lol. I’m a carpenter for a custom homes company out of Canton Ohio! Would love to win this. Again, love your videos as they’re interesting and always learn something new. Thanks !
Okay guys, looks great for our cabinet crown moulding. Let me be the first in Australia to get one !!!
Nice, looks like a cool system. Going to give Tom a follow.
I just bought the Kapex with stand and wings ! I am a finish carpenter cabinet maker but I would hv to think on that system?
Pretty sure if a non contractor won it they be scratching their head how to use it
It's super easy to make an extreme angle jig with a couple boards, but that fence is nice, like it...
That fence is such a game changer!!
I'd love to add the kizen fence to my saw. The extreme angle jig is definitely a finger saver.
Not to hate but can we get this put to work and get the next video on the mantle!! I’m invested and fell like I am starting to have withdrawals!!!
Looking forward to seeing this in use on the job site.
if festool made a 12 inch saw I would buy it. and this fence.
A good fence makes a big difference and keeps the pucker factor low
you sure you're not sponsored by Festool, or Tom?
Now that’s a cool addition to a fantastic saw
Daddy Festool is going to hate you. 😂
When we getting bbq? 🐷
Another case of- I wish I waited for version 2. Damn it.
Love your videos brother, you're on the money, as usual
This setup is sweet
Hey Rich, I'm on the fence about getting this fence (heh) for my Makita miter saw(12" xgt), which version do you have on that saw and how is the installation on that saw different from other saws? I couldn't find any info, pics, or vids about that particular combo so any further info would be appreciated.
I could use one of these for sure. Thanks for the opportunity.
I’m a DIY homeowner! Would still be nice to be able to win one. Love trim work. And little by little doing many trim projects from, crown, base, casing, judges panels, coffered ceilings, etc…
FYI, Cole the Cornstar is renovating his family home that is over 100 years old.
He just tore out everything, the ceiling, 1 piece fireplace, flooring, and trim. It doesn't sound like he is going to use it again. Maybe Brent needs some salvage stuff?
👍 Dang, you just took a Porsche and turned it into a Ferrari !
So now that you have the Festool and the Makita 40V miter saw, which are you favoring and do you find the need/miss a 12" blade at all?
Man I have been wanting this! Now I see the whole process, I'm a buyer .
That looks like such a nice fence system. I wish i had a use for something like that😂.
awesome info admire ur work sir
What if you have a makita saw and the fence isnt 90° to the base?