8 Simple *STYLE TWEAKS* That Will Improve Your Everyday Style | Over 40

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  • @pulgus2000
    @pulgus2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The contrast tip at the end was gold. Thank you!

  • @sansei56
    @sansei56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The most important statement in this video is:
    “You’ll look better than 99% of all the other guys no matter where you go…”
    Honestly, that’s what I want the most. I want to be the one that people say, “He’s always put together well!”
    My motto: “It’s not always about dressing for success, it’s more about dressing successfully!”
    Cheers, John!

  • @joseluisavalos5160
    @joseluisavalos5160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Jhon...Great advices I am 41 years, your tips help me a lot to improve my style😀Greetings from Mexico!

  • @ariefabdulsamad1024
    @ariefabdulsamad1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1. start incorporating monochromatic outfits.
    2. cuffing your sleeve.
    3. wear socks that stay up (sponsor comes in).
    4. alter/tailor your shirt.
    5. try non-blue jeans (eg grey/tan for summer).
    6. incorporate dress trouser/slack.
    7. tuck in your shirt/polo.
    8. dress your contrast (opposite of point.1)

    • @TheAnimeKers
      @TheAnimeKers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks noble gentleman!

  • @piave874
    @piave874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're a style legend, John

  • @guyh.4553
    @guyh.4553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legend.
    John, there's a 3rd cuff, it's the military cuff. Depending on the branch, it's all pretty much the same. Take the sleeve all the way up to the armpit. Then do executive cuff. You can either finish with folding the arm/wrist cuff down or you can roll it over the cuff. Essentially, you're making a longer short sleeve shirt. Just thought you might like it.

  • @Harley-ir4er
    @Harley-ir4er 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TV in UK is full programs for women fashion and nothing for Men - Thanks for your videos and all your help so far.

    • @40OverFashion
      @40OverFashion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome! Thank you for watching!

  • @andrew1212w
    @andrew1212w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like solid colour socks in black, grey, navy blue and stone. That’s all I need for regular dressing. I wear thick sports socks for racketball and running.

  • @TesoroDelSol
    @TesoroDelSol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really love the light grey pants with black button down shirt! Great tips. xo

  • @eddielopez3702
    @eddielopez3702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend!
    Yes! Wear nice, clean and polished shoes!

  • @touchtonsclc
    @touchtonsclc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a real struggle with loafers but dude you are killin it at @6:18 in those horse buckles with that outfit. I wish I could pull that off.

  • @keithosorio6301
    @keithosorio6301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big yes on tucking most shirts! I never liked the untucked look. Obviously, some shirts look better untucked like tees and some patterned short sleeve shirts.

  • @justinmc722
    @justinmc722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Afternoon John, I love blue on blue and it's my go to outfit for most of the time. Different tops with a jumper over the top. Chelsea boots finish off the look.

  • @rogercaughell4282
    @rogercaughell4282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the 'dark colours for top' suggestion & rationale !!!

  • @Jager11
    @Jager11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Legend
    Keep these videos coming, John, they're great! Love the full length shots with the close-up on the pants.

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you John. 👍🏻

  • @ardentdfender4116
    @ardentdfender4116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pondering the reason why I believe some men kindly wear monochromatic black when they do vs other colors and of similar tone I think is due to them not really having a variety of other color dress trousers in their arsenal. And also not having a wide variety of dress color shirt to fit that monochromatic look with trouser. If your not used to dressing up, you just not going to have a wide variety of options in your wardrobe. In my wardrobe I have all the standard color trousers Navy, Blue, Black, Charcoal, Tan, Gray, Olive, Burgundy. I have various shades of all those Trouser colors/Fabric style as more than one pair collecting over time. What having a wide variety of trousers have done is allow me to make a seemingly endless amount of color matching options with shirts and shirts of different style. I can do contrast color style or monochromatic style look with all the trousers. Yes, I do have a particular favorite in wearing some trouser colors normally. But you have a lot of options in your style wearing in having pants of different colors and can wear them in style confidence. I don’t need to buy trousers much. But I keep adding shirts as no matter what shirt I buy, I have a trouser that can fit it in coordinated color.

  • @mohammadangginugrohomcjogja
    @mohammadangginugrohomcjogja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Monochrome speaks class!

  • @bertram46
    @bertram46 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always! I am one of those people I like to wear bright colors and I'm a bigger guy and probably shouldn't I'm a fan of Madras plaid on my shirts or my shorts or just a lot of pastel colors

  • @arabionjames9290
    @arabionjames9290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I usually do the executive cut.
    I do monochromatic with my grays.
    I did cream and white once similar to Robert Redford in the great Gatsby.
    Thanks for the advice bro.

  • @priteshugrankar6815
    @priteshugrankar6815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi John, fantastic video as usual. Can you make a video about how to take care of leather dress shoes/sneakers/boots if they get wet to soaking wet? That'd be something I'd really would want to know.

  • @juanarce6900
    @juanarce6900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cool hacks John, the action of tucking in the shirt is simple, yet takes you to another level. Thanks for the advice my friend, and have a productive week ahead.

  • @thomaspitale2370
    @thomaspitale2370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend, thanks for the tips

  • @juliussmith4001
    @juliussmith4001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because of this channel i have changed my entire wardrobe great information. Thanks 😃

  • @TheGreggmelvin04
    @TheGreggmelvin04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always learning something. I appreciate you.
    Thanks as always
    #Legend

  • @maceyandella4
    @maceyandella4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tips as always! Thanks!

  • @christopherbarker976
    @christopherbarker976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi John some good points thanks.😊🥂
    Regards. Christopher Barker

  • @raykleiner3151
    @raykleiner3151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i always enjoy your content. No one else even comes close. Ottime informazioni!

  • @ecurb10
    @ecurb10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do the executive cuff with the gauntlet button done up - it's tricky, but gives a neater cuff, and looks really nice when there's a different colour under so you get a thin line showing👍.

  • @trevorhall1982
    @trevorhall1982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for what you do and talk about! I hope I can get to look as good as you do and as confident! God bless!

  • @ajsarabia
    @ajsarabia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work as a Nurse and I prefer compression socks. They stay up all day.

  • @georgelush1998
    @georgelush1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dark color shirt with lighter color pants for a slimming effect. Brilliant! Being rather short at 5’6”, I tend toward the monochromatic look. I’m not overweight but I’m not exactly slim either. I’ll give this lighter on bottom, darker on top a try. Thanks for the tip.

  • @davedavis612
    @davedavis612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your style tips. Could you do a video on what colors work well together. I have been changing my appearance the last couple years, I wear chinos and v neck tees, bottom ups and jeans. I would like to work with more color options now. Thx

    • @40OverFashion
      @40OverFashion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Dave! Check my channel. I made an entire video all about color theory.

  • @teistebrito9994
    @teistebrito9994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another superb video , John !

  • @1k1ngst0n
    @1k1ngst0n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great tips!

  • @darryl1139
    @darryl1139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend. Great tips as always John. Hope you have a great week and had a great catch up? Thanks for the great video mate ,😀🇦🇺

  • @willlevine9692
    @willlevine9692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tips, John.

  • @Roberto-tu5re
    @Roberto-tu5re 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great look book as always. I too live in a warm climate and from now till September no show socks are a must. Where I am is very relaxed even if you go out high end so I go for a French tuck just to dress it up, sort of best of both worlds.

  • @Al_Prazolam
    @Al_Prazolam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi John, this is a little off topic here, and I know you've said you're not a big "watch guy," but I bet I'm not your only subscriber who'd enjoy seeing a updated vid focusing on the watches in your rotation. Cheers!

    • @40OverFashion
      @40OverFashion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the works! Coming soon!

  • @martytate
    @martytate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video John!

  • @whatwouldezrado
    @whatwouldezrado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of your best 🎥 yet. Loved all the tips. Extremely helpful. Could you do a video on summer outfits but ones with shorts?

  • @leonardcroft1467
    @leonardcroft1467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Morning John
    Alway Enjoy Your Style Videos
    Thanks for your Tips !!

  • @georgereyes4566
    @georgereyes4566 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos. I have never seen a headwear video. When can one wear a ball cap, a fiadora and in between. Thanks for the stylings😊

  • @georgesteckert6334
    @georgesteckert6334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to buy some jeans. I have two pair of blue jeans. So I think I’m going to take your advice and buy a different color. I really like that idea.

  • @brunoakabigb7599
    @brunoakabigb7599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent advice. I don’t wear shirts anymore, too casual for my taste, but I roll up my sleeves. Much more elegant for me.
    The color combinations on the outfits are as always at the top.
    What shoes do you wear with the black and white outfit?
    Cheers from France.

  • @rzurzolo
    @rzurzolo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! I roll up my sleeves every day, but I never thought to keep the gauntlet button buttoned. I'll try that tomorrow. Thanks for the great content!

  • @fr4444nk
    @fr4444nk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome. Thanks so much for the tips!

  • @Lassehansen3
    @Lassehansen3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some good advice as usually 👍 Always found it interesting that socks sliding down seems to be such an issue. I personally have never had any problems with my socks, and I honestly just wear regular "dress" socks from the mall.

  • @leonardcasiano
    @leonardcasiano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love catching up with your videos and honestly it's always refreshing to hear and get ideas about fashion, I can't speak for everyone else but wearing a new outfit makes me feel like a million bucks. Thank again.

  • @garylaney1333
    @garylaney1333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like those looks, thank you for the lessons.

  • @blazefirewood
    @blazefirewood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks John. I do follow most of the tips. I also mostly wear monochromic colors. But I will push my boundaries and try contrasting. I like your rust colored jeans I should give that a try.

  • @donnie2533
    @donnie2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video glad you posted keep them coming thanks. Can I use the same concept for 65 year olds.

  • @christophervan6966
    @christophervan6966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic. Thanks.

  • @TechShizzleRacing
    @TechShizzleRacing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tips for sure! Interestingly, the dress slacks/dress shoes with no-show socks was the coolest look of all. What a perfect way to cover you for either casual or more formal occasions, and looks great in both!

  • @gregshanahan6766
    @gregshanahan6766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey John looking forward to stepping up my cuff game. Thanks for the video.

  • @nottsforest69
    @nottsforest69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Legend. Great video, packed with the basics that will transform your look if you are not doing these things already. The monochromatic segment was my fave. Rocking it out as always John and timely with the socks promo. 👍👍

  • @marianogio9401
    @marianogio9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gracias. Tus outfits me han sido de mucha ayuda.

  • @ejm6122
    @ejm6122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoa!!! I seriously have never heard of the executive cuff... I like that option. Hey John, I must say, your brand of videos are quite amazing! Love the topic of your videos. Keep up your remarkable content!

  • @kinolockhart4228
    @kinolockhart4228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salute brother for the great tips

  • @SarcoidosisWarrior
    @SarcoidosisWarrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video
    Legend as always John

  • @tommorris7179
    @tommorris7179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info John. I am a tucker for sure. What brand of no show socks do you recommend? I have tried several and have been disappointed because they never stay on my foot.

    • @40OverFashion
      @40OverFashion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These.. amzn.to/3FbT7oH Get the size a little smaller so they’re tight.

  • @ttop64
    @ttop64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi John . I have a couple of pairs patterned pants that I wear from time to time and I will get compliments on them. Also if one is bold and daring ( and I realize they are not for everyone and they get a negative rep but will get you noticed) try a pair of leather jeans. I have a black and brown pair that I've had for years . Peace. 🙂

  • @Christopher-today
    @Christopher-today 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great tips, as a short buy I especially agree with the monochromatic look. It helps by taking away harsh breaks that segment your body which can make you even look shorter than you are. The monochromatic look is also great for those with a few more pounds for many of he same reasons. It’s almost (but not really) an optical illusion. I also so glad you said tuck in your shirt! Outside of purpose made no tuck shirts it just looks messy at best and lazy like you just don’t care about yourself at worst. Oh and as far as no tuck shirts I only think they’re good for casual settings and are a better fit in the summer rather than the other seasons. That’s my 2 cents anyway. I also like buttoning up my polo shirts all the way. The look isn’t for everyone but I think if you like it and can pull it off it’s a tiny tweak that’ll make you stand out a bit. Finally great illustration of a bad vs great fitting dress shirt.
    In my opinion the number 1 tweak is not really a tweak and it’s something you almost always mention which is great. That tweak is to wear clothes that fit! It can be tough to find perfect fitting clothes unless you fit a very specific body size and shape but if your short like me or really tall or a bit overweight it’s nearly impossible to find the perfect fit (or often even a good fit) off the rack so find a good tailor. It doesn’t actually cost that much unless you need to totally reconstruct a garment and I’ve found if you use the same tailor regularly you often get deals or preferred (speedier) service. It’s well worth an extra 10 - 15 percent imo anyway. Simple but great stuff as always. Cheers, Christopher

  • @chrisb3902
    @chrisb3902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tips John!

  • @jeffrygallagher7563
    @jeffrygallagher7563 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done a spot on wearing 3 button,long sleeve Henley’s? I am fit senior. Thank you.

  • @quericopapa
    @quericopapa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello John. Thank you for the "hacks" today. All of them are really helpful! I always looking forward for your videos. You are a great advisor. Wishing you a wonderful week. Stay safe and have fun! Cheers

  • @stevemccrory9130
    @stevemccrory9130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    True Legend.

  • @davidperkins605
    @davidperkins605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend, thanks John, always great advice

  • @moneyfornothing3264
    @moneyfornothing3264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend!!

  • @markperkins5626
    @markperkins5626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven’t done monochromatic in years; excellent tip! What’s the belt brand you’ve endorsed?? Thanks, you’re the only fashion site I view.

  • @rosesanchez7757
    @rosesanchez7757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tips! Those all-important visual tricks can make such a difference in presenting a polished appearance. I'm a great fan of color, may have to explore the monochromatic look. My coloring is very similar to yours, so you've given me some solid ideas. The only color I really struggle with is mustard, and I'm unusually drawn to it. lol Have a GREAT week! Legend!

  • @BobsCreativeDays
    @BobsCreativeDays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tips as always. Have a great week John!

  • @drsamscott
    @drsamscott 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are very helpful and I always look forward to new ones. Keep up the great work, and, thank you! Greetings from Clearwater Beach, Florida!

  • @Broadmaynewood
    @Broadmaynewood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video ..l

  • @BrianLannoye
    @BrianLannoye ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, what about sweaters for shirt cuffing? You wouldn't cuff the sleeves, but is there a better way to pull them up? From the cuff? From the sleeve at the elbow? And how much do you pull them up?

  • @raf155
    @raf155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again for the practical advice.

  • @evanrandolph5928
    @evanrandolph5928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great helpful video. I love your content, it's so much more down to earth and relatable to real guys. I love that you included tons of examples of outfits in this video. Your videos are some of the best on TH-cam. So much of what is advertised as "style" these days is just ridiculous and completely out of touch with what any of us could actually wear to the office or out on the town (I'm looking at you, GQ...with your $1K ugly sweaters and $600 chinos...).

  • @omarcortes5754
    @omarcortes5754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm that person who wears monochromatic outfits, black and dark blue most of the time, but I'm already taking notes of those brown and green examples.

  • @0956y
    @0956y 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tucking vs not tucking remains an issue. Non tucked makes me feel more free, casual and relaxed

  • @davehenderson6125
    @davehenderson6125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks John. This is all excellent advice. I’m so glad for the ideas that I can start using right away as well.
    My 20 year old son tells me I can/should try cuffing my pant legs as well. He has his own sense of style and confidence, and I love that he does, but is this a look that a 50-something can really pull off?

  • @DJRON614
    @DJRON614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend.

  • @mumbolee
    @mumbolee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Lots of very useful tips. 🙏

  • @raymondmatias4441
    @raymondmatias4441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend

  • @dennisreidy1032
    @dennisreidy1032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi John, big fan. How do I find the discount code?

    • @40OverFashion
      @40OverFashion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s in the description. FASHION.

  • @jefff2223
    @jefff2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think about something called the French tuck especially for polos or T’s where you only do a loose tuck in the front? And what do you think about wearing patterned socks with different colors?

    • @40OverFashion
      @40OverFashion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m OK with the French tuck, I just don’t do it personally. I’m also OK with pattern socks, provided it’s not to wacky.

  • @Coffeedav
    @Coffeedav 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Algo bump 👍🏽

  • @stephendecubellis7149
    @stephendecubellis7149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video on shirt brands?

  • @randyinvancouver
    @randyinvancouver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any thoughts about guys with big necks and the conundrum of either having a wide “V” if a couple of buttons are undone, or look strangled with only one button undone? This is mostly an issue for me because I wear undershirts. I sometimes feel like it’s sloppy to expose all of that undershirt under a nice shirt, but one more button makes me look like my head it busting out around the collar.

  • @MichaelJohnson-vi6eh
    @MichaelJohnson-vi6eh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its funny. I'm a pretty tall guy so I feel like I stand out ALL THE TIME no matter what and if I wear a bright color or a interesting pattern or texture I feel like I'm wearing a spinning blue light on top on my head. Did you do a video on dressing for the tall guy over 40?

  • @williambarabanitz3858
    @williambarabanitz3858 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IMHO, jeans are for the under 21 set. Chinos/khakis in dark/light tan with herringbone black/white wool trousers can carry one through a decade. Shirts untucked are for slovenly pre-pubescents, devoid of parental guidance. Only black shoes are needed - one pulls-them-in with a grey cardigan or classic navy blazer, regardless of pant.
    p.s. CORGI SOCKS in argyle win.

  • @nabunjewinnie3204
    @nabunjewinnie3204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    U are the best 👍

  • @philpeterson7182
    @philpeterson7182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great plaid pants at 6:20 Where did you get them?

  • @seanlarson860
    @seanlarson860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When tailoring your shirts, they should also raise the arm hole. This will remove extra fabric around the arm but also elongate the body and make you appear slimmer.

  • @paulhoffman8329
    @paulhoffman8329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these easy tips. One question, though. You say tuck your shirts, but I have a large belly, nothing else is oversized. If I get shirts meant to be untucked, should I still tuck, thus wrapping my belly like a precious Xmas present, or go untucked until I lose about 7 more pounds and it looks less noticeable?

    • @40OverFashion
      @40OverFashion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      7 lbs? That’s all? You’re off to a pretty good start. Those pounds should be gone in the next two weeks or so.

  • @lathropedition
    @lathropedition 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I get that gorgeous zip up plaid jacket??

  • @ecurb10
    @ecurb10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might have spoken about this before John, but what's the tip for making short legs look longer?

    • @karlr750
      @karlr750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bruce Smith, I would consider the following details:
      1. Avoid low-rise pants. Choose mid-rise or high-rise instead.
      2. Ensure the pants are hemmed at the correct length.
      3. Wear pants with a sharp crease down the front (for an additional vertical line). Pinstripes create the same illusion, but they work in fewer situations.
      4. Wear shorter tops and jackets. For example, choose a bomber jacket over a 3/4 length jacket.
      5. Wear a belt that matches the color of your pants, and avoid wearing one that's the color of your shirt (unless your shirt is the same color as your pants).

    • @ecurb10
      @ecurb10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karlr750 Thanks Karl, these makes sense👍

  • @robertofont6069
    @robertofont6069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The men’s fashion therapist strikes again and as always is a winner. Are there any colors that don’t work for you?

  • @rangiar
    @rangiar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video John, as usual. But, if I may, no Italian gentleman would wear short socks.

  • @BrianLannoye
    @BrianLannoye ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if I wear a brown belt and shoes with the rest shades of blue? Is that still considered monochromatic? I ask for obvious reasons. How many blue belts and shoes does one man own?

  • @successivedestinies7215
    @successivedestinies7215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm confused. I've heard-from other professional stylists-that a light pants coupled with a darker shirt makes short people look shorter as it kind of cuts the person in half visually (if you get my meaning).

    • @40OverFashion
      @40OverFashion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suppose that could be true, and monochromatic outfits might be more beneficial. I guess I was only referring to weight proportions.

    • @successivedestinies7215
      @successivedestinies7215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@40OverFashion Thank you for your response. Yes, I agree; monochromatic is beneficial for those of short stature. When it gets a bit boring, I sometimes use patterns. As much as I dislike stripes, vertical lines create height and I also don't want to look like a lumberjack lol.